Originally published January 20, 2010 at 06:54p.m., updated January 21, 2010 at 01:18a.m.

FINAL: KU survives hot-shooting Baylor, 81-75

Kansas guard Sherron Collins flashes his tongue after hitting a three pointer to boost the Jayhawks late in the second half, Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Sherron Collins flashes his tongue after hitting a three pointer to boost the Jayhawks late in the second half, Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.


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2010 KU-Baylor

Reader poll

How would you grade KU's performance against Baylor's zone defense in the Jayhawks' victory Wednesday?

  • A 11% 376 votes
  • B 53% 1766 votes
  • C 27% 900 votes
  • D 5% 180 votes
  • F 1% 46 votes
  • Undecided 0% 20 votes

3288 total votes.

KU survives Baylor, 81-75

Baylor gave the Jayhawks a run for their money Wednesday night at Allen Fieldhouse.

KU vs. Baylor

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Who was KU's first-half MVP against Baylor?

  • Sherron Collins 38% 39 votes
  • Xavier Henry 4% 5 votes
  • Marcus Morris 54% 55 votes
  • Other 1% 2 votes

101 total votes.

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Will Baylor's LaceDarius Dunn score 20 points or more tonight against Kansas?

  • Yes 44% 21 votes
  • No 51% 24 votes
  • Undecided 4% 2 votes

47 total votes.


Preview: KU vs. Baylor

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Kansas takes on Baylor Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

I don't remember seeing this at the Fieldhouse: KU fans stood and applauded the Baylor players as they made their way to the locker room.

KU scoring — Collins 28 (9-for-16 shooting), Marcus Morris 22, X. Henry 12, Aldrich 10, Morningstar 5, Markieff Morris 4.

KU was 27-for-62 from the floor (43.5 percent), 8-for-21 from three (38.1 percent) and 19-for-25 from the free-throw line (76 percent).

BU was 25-for-48 from the floor (52.1 percent), 10-for-21 from three (47.6 percent) and 15-for-19 from the free-throw line (78.9 percent).

BU had 20 turnovers to KU's seven. Baylor out-rebounded KU, 34-29.

FINAL: KU defeats Baylor, 81-75

Three misses in a row for Baylor. I don’t think that happened the rest of the game for the Bears.

Collins throws the ball up toward the scoreboard in celebration at the buzzer, and KU finishes off an 81-75 victory.

KU 81/BU 74 — 17.7 seconds left in 2nd half

Five words: Sherron Collins at his best.

With time getting short on the shot clock, Collins didn’t hesitate in hoisting up a deep three-pointer from the left side that swished through. He stuck his tongue out to the crowd.

Dunn missed a three on the other end, and after a scramble, Collins came up with the rebound. After getting fouled, he waved his arms to the crowd repeatedly, motioning for the fans to get loud and rise to their feet. Collins made one of his two free throws.

A.J. Walton misses a three from the corner, and though it looks like Baylor will come away with the offensive rebound, Morningstar makes a great play, batting it away at the last second. Marcus Morris finally corrals the carom, and he gets fouled before hitting two free throws.

Carter makes two free throws with 30 seconds left, but KU breaks the press, and Xavier Henry answers with two freebies of his own.

Another three for Carter (why not?), but there isn’t enough time for another BU comeback. Collins hits two more free throws, and Self takes timeout with 17.7 seconds left and KU up seven.

KU 71/BU 69 — 1:34 left in 2nd half

After getting fouled, Morningstar hits both ends of his one-and-one.

But Carter answers, getting into the lane before dishing off to Acy for a slam.

Collins puts KU back in front, driving under the basket before putting in a layup.

Finally Baylor misses, as Carter’s three bounces off the back iron. Aldrich with the all-important rebound.

Morningstar misses a floater in the lane, but once again, Marcus is there, grabbing the board before getting hacked. The whistle also is Jones’ fifth foul. Marcus makes both free throws to put KU up four.

Dunn won’t let Baylor die, though, hitting a near-impossible 15-foot shot with three Jayhawks guarding him. I think Morningstar might have fouled him from the back, too, but no whistle was blown. BU takes its final timeout.

KU 65/BU 65 — 3:13 left in 2nd half

Aldrich gets the ball on a snap pass from Taylor, and he reverses to his back shoulder to put in a baseline jumper.

Dunn answers with a three, and he’s now 5-for-6 from deep. Honestly, I don’t remember when he missed his three.

Marcus Morris misses the front end of a one-and-one, but Aldrich skies to grab the offensive board. He throws out to Collins, who knocks down the open three. Collins pounds his chest, and Self pumps his fist and Drew calls timeout following the huge momentum swing.

Baylor just does not miss, though. A shot by Acy bounces high off the rim before falling in, and Carter follows with a runner in the lane to cut KU’s lead to six. Self calls timeout, and Collins, in frustration, pounds the ball into the ground, sending it about 30 feet into the air. He’s lucky to avoid a technical foul, and Drew screams to an official to ask why Collins wasn’t penalized for his spike.

Dunn puts in a fast-break layup, then gets fouled in the lane, putting in his two free throws. He grabbed his hand after getting fouled, though, and he comes out of the game after his free throws.

Jones follows with a dunk over Aldrich, and with a 10-0 run, Baylor has tied the score at 65.

KU 58/BU 50 — 7:27 left in 2nd half

Collins runs flush into a Baylor screen, and Carter takes advantage, draining his second three.

Markieff Morris steps in front of Udoh, picking up the third charge for KU today. That’s huge, as it’s also Udoh’s fourth whistle.

Xavier Henry rolls in a 10-foot jumper. KU takes its largest lead at 56-49.

Markieff gets a clean block right in front of me, but he’s whistled for the foul by Scott Thornley. The KU fans don’t like the call, and they shouldn’t.

Collins follows with a tough, one-handed runner off the glass from 12 feet. KU has methodically extended its advantage to eight points.

KU 50/BU 46 — 11:04 left in 2nd half

Baylor isn’t cooling down. Dunn hits a layup, and Tweety Carter follows with a three.

KU has an answer both times, though. Aldrich drops in a shot in the lane, and Xavier Henry gives an up-fake before tossing in a deep three.

Collins with another deep three. Though KU is only in the mid-40s, it is playing nearly flawless offensively lately to keep a small lead.

The Morris twins are holding their own inside. Marcus puts in a running floater, and on the next possession, Markieff pins an offensive rebound against his shoulder before putting it back up with his left hand for two.

Baylor is still shooting over 50 percent from the floor, but KU leads by four.

KU 37/BU 37 — 15:37 left in 2nd half

After working the ball inside, KU moves it back out, but Morningstar misses an open three. KU can’t afford to keep missing open outside shots.

Xavier Henry gets his sixth steal, but he misses a layup in traffic. BU’s Anthony Jones follows with an 18-footer that swishes through.

Dunn takes it to the rim, and Morningstar is forced to foul him from the backside. Dunn’s free throws extend BU’s lead to four.

KU answers, though. Marcus Morris grabs an offensive rebound before having his shot goal-tended inside. Aldrich goes over Josh Lomers for a defensive rebound, and Morningstar dishes to Collins for a three. Morningstar was so sure the shot was going in that he ran back to play defense before Collins even released the ball.

Xavier Henry gets all the way to the rim, but misses the easy finger-roll. He slaps his hands together in frustration.

KU scoring — Marcus Morris 8, Collins 7, Aldrich 5, X. Henry 5, Morningstar 3, Markieff Morris 2.

KU was 12-for-30 from the floor (40 percent), 3-for-9 from three (33.3 percent) and 3-for-6 from the free-throw line (50 percent).

BU was 10-for-19 from the floor (52.6 percent), 5-for-8 from three (62.5 percent) and 5-for-6 from the free-throw line (83.3 percent).

BU had 14 first-half turnovers, while KU had six. The Bears out-rebounded the Jayhawks, 17-12, in the first half.

Some thoughts

This game has played out interestingly so far. It seems like KU is playing pretty well, but the score is still tied. Part of the reason for that has been Baylor’s deliberate play on offense. The extremely low number of possessions thus far obviously favors Baylor.

Nice half for Xavier Henry, who had five points, five steals, two assists and one turnover in 14 minutes.

Can Baylor keep up its shooting? Fifty-three percent from the floor and 63 percent from three seems unsustainable, but the Bears did come in as a good shooting team.

When was the last time KU only had 12 rebounds in a half? It has to have been a while.

KU 30/BU 30 — Halftime

C.J. Henry loses Dunn — how does that happen? — and Dunn cans his fourth three of the game. The BU guard comes up hobbling, though, and he might have a minor ankle injury. Play is stopped to get Dunn out of the game.

Tyshawn Taylor finally checks in with three minutes left in the half.

Aldrich has to check out of the game with two fouls, and his replacement — Robinson — makes another horrible decision inside, trying to go up over two defenders before getting his shot blocked.

Collins with a smart play in the lane, pulling up for a shot to get it over Baylor’s bigs inside. If he’d have gone all the way to the rim, he would have been rejected. Instead, his four-footer gets a friendly bounce and rolls in.

In the final seconds, Collins misses a layup on a drive, but Markieff Morris cleans up with a stickback jam.

The dunk ties the halftime score at 30.

KU 24/BU 24 — 3:43 left in 1st half

Quincy Acy knocks down two free throws to put Baylor up one, but right on cue, Collins answers with a three from the right wing.

After a defensive rebound, KU runs the break, and Xavier Henry makes a nice decision to pitch out to Collins on the perimeter. The execution isn’t great, though, and the poor pass forces KU to reset.

Following an offensive rebound by Aldrich, Collins splits two defenders in the lane with a dribble before putting in a soft shot off the glass for two. Drew again calls timeout after a mini KU run. He doesn’t want this one to get out of control early.

The stoppage seems to work for the Bears. Acy hits a shot, and an awful pass by Robinson is stolen away. Udoh follows with a layup, and with the game tied again, it’s now Self that dials up a timeout.

KU 19/BU 18 — 7:25 left in 1st half

Dunn puts in a three, avoiding the defense of Morningstar. Dunn has to have one of the quickest releases in college basketball. Before you even think he’s going up, the shot is already off.

Elijah Johnson checks in before Tyshawn Taylor. I don't think Taylor is hurt. He’s in his warmups on the bench right by the coaches, and if he were injured, I’d assume he’d be farther down the bench.

Aldrich draws two consecutive fouls after getting the ball inside. That’s seven team fouls already on Baylor.

Another three for Dunn. He’s a perfect three-for-three from three-point range for nine points. Something about playing against KU seems to bring out the best in him.

Morningstar dishes to Xavier Henry, who knocks in his first three. Marcus Morris follows with a steal, and he takes it all the way to the other end, avoiding a defender underneath the rim to put in a layup. BU coach Scott Drew calls timeout to settle his team.

KU 13/BU 10 — 11:34 left in 1st half

Morningstar hits a three, but LaceDarius Dunn answers with a three on the other end.

Morningstar misses his next attempt, but Xavier Henry skies for the board and is fouled on the way back up. KU coach Bill Self talked about Xavier’s offensive rebounding earlier this week, commenting that the small forward wasn’t as active on the glass as he should be with the physical tools he has. Xavier might have been listening.

Udoh buries a three, and he does a little of everything for Baylor. He’s now 5-for-13 (38.5 percent) from beyond the arc this year.

A few seconds later, Udoh commits a costly foul, going over Thomas Robinson’s back on an offensive rebound attempt. That’s two fouls on Udoh, and he’ll have to go to the bench.

KU with four steals so far, and three of them have come from Xavier Henry. Honestly, it seems like KU should be up by more than three points.

KU 6/BU 4 — 15:59 left in 1st half

Brady Morningstar gets his first start of the year, replacing Tyshawn Taylor.

Well any questions about what Cole Aldrich we’d see tonight were answered quickly. After getting a feed from Collins, the KU big man threw home a ferocious one-handed slam, yelling toward the camera in satisfaction afterwards.

KU has done a great job of attacking the inside of Baylor’s zone so far. Afte some fancy dribbling up top, Collins delivered a nice no-look pass across the lane to Marcus Morris for a slam. KU’s first six points have all come in the lane.

Baylor has seemed content to slow it down offensively, and that’s not a surprise. The Bears, according to KenPom, play with the 226th-fastest tempo in the NCAA, which puts them at a slightly slower pace than the average NCAA team.

7:05 p.m.

Like I said earlier, I wanted to try something a little different for tonight's game.

On the left side, you'll notice there's a link to a chat with yours truly. For pre-game, I'll be hanging out there to talk about all sorts of topics.

Though it says to "Submit a question," really you can use that form to simply post a comment as well.

For one, I'll use it as a place for predictions on the game. The closest person to the correct score will receive a Kream Keegan T-shirt. Entries must be received inside the chat before 8:05 p.m. Tiebreaker will be the person who is closest to KU's final score.

Also, feel free to ask me a question, or comment about what song is currently stuck in your head at the moment.

Hopefully, this will have more of a conversation feel, rather than a "Jesse is talking but not listening to me" feel.

So, if you have some time, head on over to the chat. And be sure to post your score prediction there as well.

6:55 p.m.

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from Allen Fieldhouse where the No. 3 Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the No. 25 Baylor Bears.

We're going to try something a little different as we get closer to gametime, but for now, here are some notes about Baylor, which enters with a 14-2 record.

Baylor, which plays primarily a 2-3 zone, holds its opponents to 38.5 percent shooting from inside the three-point line. That's the fourth-best mark in the country. The Bears also block 19.5 percent of their opponents' two-point attempts — the third-best percentage nationally.

Baylor's defense doesn't force many turnovers, as opponents average just 12.3 turnovers per game.

Baylor's opponents score 34.9 percent of their points from three-pointers.

Six-foot-10 forward Ekpe Udoh (Epp-Ay You-Doe) is one of only three Big 12 players (along with Kansas' Cole Aldrich and Texas' Damion James) to average a double-double, posting 14.1 points and 11.4 rebounds per game. He also is averaging 4.4 blocks and 4.4 offensive rebounds per contest.

Baylor is a great shooting team, making 40.1 percent of its three-pointers (22nd nationally) and 53.3 percent of its twos (21st nationally). Additionally, both LaceDarius Dunn (41.2 percent) and Tweety Carter (42.2 percent) have made more than 40 percent of their three-pointers this year.

• The Bears are strong on the offensive boards, picking up the rebound on 41.6 percent of their misses (sixth nationally).

Be sure to vote in our poll on the left and also use #kubball to have your tweets appear on the left side of this page.

Also, no guarantees, but most of the time,, password: phog is a link that is useful on gamedays.


Steve Gantz 10 years ago

I've got enough T-shirts so I'll just guess here. Collins goes off for 30 and KU wins 85-76.

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years ago

I'm not sure I'd wear a t-shirt with Keegan's name on it.

KU 82 BU 65

kansasbasketball 10 years ago

wissoxfan i hope collins don't go for 30

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years ago

Okay, what gives? The last three times I have tried to stream the radio feed on KLZR ( it indicates the station programming is blacked out until guess when. You got it 11:30 pm, or basically just after the game.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

My guess--KU- 88 Baylor- 73. However, it might be closer than that score I gave, especially, if the Hawks have a poor shooting night against the zone.

Good luck, Jayhawks!! Bring us home a win!!

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years ago

Looks like we might actually start on time.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Professor_Fate: That's a good thing, because I got to get my beauty sleep!

What a bummer! North Carolina losing at home tonight, against Wake Forest, 77-60, with two minutes to go. Maybe they're still be ranked next week--NOT!!!!!!!!!!

milwaukeeJAYHAWK 10 years ago

is this game going to be on any other streams besides srem? also, my stupid time-warner internet won't allow access to espn360. ugh, i need to switch 'net providers

Mike Kendall 10 years ago


Since you live in Lexington, you are probably sick of hearing about Kentucky being the only undefeated team in the Land! Kind of sucks, doesn't it?

dukehester 10 years ago

guess keeg's has done his bandwagon thing and now feels kentuck is REAL no 1!!

okiedave 10 years ago

North Carolina is dropping another game to Wake Forest and in 2 minutes will be 12-7. They will most likely move from No. 24 to No. 25. Baylor is No. 25 at 14-2. Go figure.

Kent Wells 10 years ago


Jesse posted on the chat that "I believe that KU Athletics has the exclusive rights to the game, so it prevents the live streaming of local radio stations so that it can charge on its Web site for the game. If KUAD is looking to make money, blocking KLWN and other stations is the only way to go."

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years ago

Wizards 75 Mavericks 74 Early 4th Drew Gooden with 12 for the Mavs.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

It's gone final: Wake--82 NC--69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

melrank 10 years ago

Hubert did the last game we lost? He's not welcome back.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Ron Franklin and Hubert Davis, doing the TV broadcast. I guess that is okay!

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years ago


Much, much thanks. I guess I need to consider the mothership web site then, even at a price. I kind of like listening when not available on TV where I live. I grew up in North East Kansas and listening to radio feeds reminds me of listening with my grandpa when I was a kid. Big 8 play on WIBW out of Topeka.

Theutus 10 years ago

Aldrich with authority.... Exactly what we need.

kusayzone 10 years ago

This is the SC we like to see!!!

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years ago

Our passing is much crisper tonight. Good sign.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Collins is jawing with a Baylor player--don't need any T's!!!!!!

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

So nice to see Cole DUNK!!!! I almost spilled my drink!!!

Kent Wells 10 years ago

No problem BC.

My grandpa was a MU guy (we all make mistakes), so I listened to games with my dad when I was little, but I know what you are saying.

melrank 10 years ago

Great patience. Smart ball.

Their zone isn't overly active.

Theutus 10 years ago

Lots of feeds to the post tonight... This is what i like to see.... We are looking good.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

And the greedy mothership can KMA.

Ben Kane 10 years ago

so far i'd say X's best game. He's attacking both with his shot and the boards.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

That NBA shot by Dunn--Good grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years ago

X active inside, damn, he's stepping up.

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Stupid call on Morningstar!!!!!!!!!!

Theutus 10 years ago

Wow. That's as clean of a pick as you can get by Morningstar... That official just blew that call hard.

melrank 10 years ago

Ty must really be in the doghouse.

Ben Kane 10 years ago

i don't think taylor is going to play tonight. he still had his warmups on in an earlier shot. wonder what the story is there

Ben Kane 10 years ago

mel that's twice you've posted just a sec before me saying the same thing.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Oh, Jesse... Whats up with Taylor????

melrank 10 years ago

Robinson's first step is amazing - especially when he travels, I guess.

Steve Gantz 10 years ago

Kids have comandeered the TV. I'll have to start watching at 9. Oh how I wish they were sports fans!

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Yeah, Robinson has to remember to put the ball on the floor. He is so damn quick though!

Lots of fouls...

melrank 10 years ago

Chuck - great minds think alike - other than that full court press thing :)

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Wissoxfan83--What the heck--go to the sports bar next door!

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years ago

T-Rob is a freaking machine. It will be fun watching him get better.

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

I'm lovin' our energy tonight so far! Now if we can just stay under control! T-Rob has a TON of fight in him!!!

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Chuck will never live the full-court press thing down!!!!!!!!!!

Jesse Newell 10 years ago

I think Tyshawn just hasn't gotten in. If he was hurt, he'd be on the end of the bench, but he's pretty close to the coaches right now.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years ago

The team looked good with this starting line up. Cole is looking better today.

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

EJ is in before TT?!?! Jesse, do you know what's going on with TT?

Theutus 10 years ago

EJ IS IN!!!! Yes, finally... I hope to god he blows up tonight.....

Ben Kane 10 years ago

well, i stand by it, specially with our personnel. obvious coach agrees with me a little tiny bit.

melrank 10 years ago

Hubert - "X is an outstanding defensive player".

Is that outstanding by North Carolina standards?

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Something is up. EJ in before Taylor...

Ben Kane 10 years ago

Cole...c'mon man, go up strong with that!

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

I'm surprised too. EJ before TT?

Kent Wells 10 years ago

The middle for Baylor is soft now. Take over and contain their 3's. But, Cole is pressing... Grrrr.

Brian Powell 10 years ago

key might be staying aggressive and taking it to the rack... -> more foul trouble for them. don't start settling for jumpers just yet!

good D times 3 so far by 'Star

I like seeing Robinson and EJ getting some action

melrank 10 years ago

Cole's shot is flatter than my girlfriend in the 2nd grade.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Second time I've seen Morningstar do that to 24!

DENDK24 10 years ago

Does anyone else like Brady's flesh colored beard???

Mike Kendall 10 years ago


How flat are we talkin' about?

Brian Powell 10 years ago

ok, so we're both hitting outside. but this game will stay close if we keep this up!

take it inside, get them in even more foul trouble!! pays off big in the long run

melrank 10 years ago

I hate the perimter switching - hedge and fight thru. I'm tired of seeing the confusion on switching. Let's get tough.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years ago

Marcus is becoming a scoring machine.

Moringstar has his hands full but is doing well.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

melrank: Thanks for the visual.

mikendal: Lets not encourage the behavior.

melrank 10 years ago

Cole 7' hook shot flat :) Really disappointing!

melrank 10 years ago

Sorry - a couple of beers into it already.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years ago

Jabar's hook shot was close to flat. It was on the way down from the time it left his hand.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Thank goodness you haven't had enough beer to say that your 2nd grade girlfriend was a hooker.

Theutus 10 years ago

These officials are really calling a lot of knick-knack stuff... I wish they would let the players play.

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

welcome to the party, melrank. Cheers!

melrank 10 years ago

Let's not get carried away - no one is mistaking Cole for Kareem on the offensive end.

Don Everett 10 years ago

melrank - wait until after halftime to start drinking next game!!!!

melrank 10 years ago

Eastern time zone - it's late.

Ben Kane 10 years ago

wait until halftime?!!! I'm with you mel, I'm done by halftime. usually start around 7:30-8:00 for these 9:00 games.

sherron4life 10 years ago

Any one know what tyshawn did to be benched?

melrank 10 years ago

I had lots of homework already with the kids, I need to start drinking at the beginning of the game.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years ago

Any one check to see if Baylor has the gal from the women's team on the bench just in case they need an extra player to dunk.

Ben Kane 10 years ago

obviously, no one will know what's up with TT till Self tells us.

kusayzone 10 years ago

what fg percentage is Baylor shooting??

kansasbasketball 10 years ago

the t.v. guys haven't even said anything about tyshawn?? hmmmmm

melrank 10 years ago

Just over 50 almost 62 from 3.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Getting your drunk on before the game is beneficial the way they have been playing.

rockchalkxii 10 years ago

I believe Tyshawn found his new role, which is riding the pine next to hcbs. Has he even played yet? I missed like the first 2 minutes.

Aaron Carpenter 10 years ago

I really feel like they are way behind their #3 ranking right now. Certainlly don't look real good on offense and is somewhat worrysome.

melrank 10 years ago

We can complain about our play, but this is a good Baylor team, folks.

Brian Powell 10 years ago

when i said take it inside, i didn't mean get our a-- blocked every time down...


You too, Reed. Take it strong!

melrank 10 years ago

Credit that bucket to Sherron.

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

Nice play by Mk to end the half.

Our depth should overcome them 2nd half due to their foul trouble.

Brian Powell 10 years ago

I agree Bears are playing well on both ends, but we are not taking it strong inside. Not even jumping. Worried about contact.

Oh Taylor's in :P I can tell by the score rimshot

Hey, tie score - let's

Brian Powell 10 years ago

as long as Baylor doesn't get guys off the bench that keep draining 3s, our depth* and FT opps should win out.

*still debatable?

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

We're in for a bear fight (no pun intended) tonight! Could be a barn-burner!

melrank 10 years ago

Let's see, we're tied and they outshot us 52%-40%, 62%-33% from 3 and outrebounded us really bad 17-11. Plus we shot 3-6 from the line. It can't get much worse for us. No way that's continuing.

I'll take my chances.

Ed Fox 10 years ago

KU isn't playing great, but Baylor is playing really well. It's actually a pretty entertaining game thus far and it's good to see our guys tested by a good team when both are playing reasonably well. Don't expect Baylor to go away though, after last year they believe they can win this game and have some tough kids who will fight to the end.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years ago

Dunn will cool off in the second half.

KU has to shoot better. For the most part the defense looks decent; many steals so far. KU will pull away with 10 minutes left.

lovemyhawks 10 years ago

anyone know why tyshawn did not start and hardly played??

melrank 10 years ago

With Old Roy getting crunched again, I was wondering, how many wins are we behind NC?

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years ago

lovemyhawks - no ideas have been given yet. Self will say it has to do with practice performance.

Tony Bandle 10 years ago

Based on the other teams I have seen this week, I will eat my authentic Jayhawk Beak Hat if we are truly the # 2 team in America. Despite our record, I'm not sure we are even the #2 team in our league.

Can they play any better and we play any worse...sure!!!!

Some suggestions for HCBS: 1] Someone teach Cole how to take and fake a charge. 2] Find some refs that can actually see. 3]Forget the double team off the screen at the head of the key..the twins just don't get it. 4]Tell Xavier he has to drive to the bucket a minimum of four times a game...or Conner will take his place. 5]Defend the three as if your soul depended on it.

lovemyhawks 10 years ago

thanks fairgrove. i see other posts now that i am reading. guess we are all wondering. think you are probably right.

hope we are ready for a big 2nd half. so far too many fouls and too many missed shots. let's PLAY BALL!!! RCJH!!

melrank 10 years ago

Oakville - On #3, I don't think the double team is the intent, I think they are trying to switch alot of the ball screens and that's what nobody on the team seems to be executing smoothly.

That BS has to stop.

kansasbasketball 10 years ago

i agree with everyone of your posts oakvillejhawk except the refs one! It is never the refs fault why anyone loses or wins!

KU 10 years ago

Where's the effort? I dont' see any intensity or desire to bury somebody. Very disappointing. If we get outshot 50% to 42% and outrebounded 17-11 and we are playing as hard as we possibly can, I can take that. But this is just another phone-it-in effort by KU. One of the reason's we've been outshot is we've given up 5 blocks already, to zero for KU. That's just being lazy in the post. Go up strong!! Rarely do I see more than 1 or 2 KU players going strong to the offensive boards.

Baylor has turned the ball over (mostly due to their inept ball-handling) 14 times and we've outshot them 30-19. They can't continue to shoot this well from 3, but we are doing NOTHING to get them out of their comfort zone.

We need to pressure defense (and stop letting their bigs slip the ball screen 3 times in a row) in the half court and get some turnovers out top and get the possessions up. We've got to crank it up. If we let them hang around, it's gonna be a toss up.

Joe Joseph 10 years ago

This team would get lit up by the '08 squad. Way more athleticism on that team.

And not as dumb.

Brian Powell 10 years ago

oh they're in a zone, we're screwed. clueless and screwed.

can we attack a zone, ever?

superdave 10 years ago

This looks familiar - too many lost possessions and no intensity on defense. Way too much standing around on offense.

melrank 10 years ago

Marcus sure does look good at times.

Brian Powell 10 years ago

i like how Brady dished it off to Collins and then kept running the opposite direction.. cause he knew Sherron would sink the 3.


Joe Joseph 10 years ago

Has KU ever forced a turnover by double-teaming?

superdave 10 years ago

Can someone find a more comfortable mouthpiece for Aldrich? He pulls it out at EVERY stoppage of play.

melrank 10 years ago

I'm not sure I agree with the criticism. Baylor is a good team and shooting out of their mind.

We aren't playing as well as we could, but the expectation of 20 point blowouts against good teams in conference play is somewhat outlandish.

We should be happy with a win no matter what the box score says.

And before the comments rush in . . . it doesn't matter in March if we only win this game by a couple because we need to learn to fight thru adversity and find ways to win.

Theutus 10 years ago

We need to start playing with some emotion NOW, and not when there are 2 minutes left in the game like we have been.....

Don Everett 10 years ago

stupidmichael - can you be any more negative??????

bradynsdad 10 years ago

is it just me or are we playing really slow? note to all other teams we play we will kill your starters but we cant compete with your second string.

melrank 10 years ago

The Morris boys are carrying us inside.

DENDK24 10 years ago

This is fun to watch. Baylor should definately be a top 25 team...

Brian Powell 10 years ago

melrank, I don't think most people think we'll blow Baylor out -- and it's not about the score, really. It's about how we played. In the first half, soft and slow.

this half, looks like we woke up a bit. Gotta finish though!

melrank 10 years ago

jayhawkdon - michaels schtick is negativity. It's kind of funny, actually. The spanish thing today was really a nice touch.

Not soobawls funny, of course.

Ben Kane 10 years ago

mel i'm with you again. thoguh i think we need to step up the rebounding... and we have over the last few minutes.

melrank 10 years ago

BP2U - check out the predictions and get back to me on "most people don't expect a blowout".

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

Did they just say Marcus scored at one end, then Markeiff scored at the other end?! I've had some JH players do that a time or two, but they always give the pts to the other team when we score in their basket!

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years ago

Pound it down low!

And hit your free throws.

Don Everett 10 years ago

melrank - i hear ya, but it just gets old - i can remember back to some of the Ted Owens days - some of these clowns are so spoiled

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Glad this game isn't in Waco. Gotta protect that home winning streak!!!!

DENDK24 10 years ago

Every game Sherron raises the bar more and more for why he has become my favorite jayhawk of all time!!

melrank 10 years ago

Chuck - since we are bonding tonight :), it does seem like we are hitting the boards a little harder but the stats don't seem to bare it out. I wouldn't have guessed we were getting killed as bad as we are.

Cole is MIA and the twins have half our rebounds so maybe that accounts for the lack of recognition on the discrepancy.

Don Everett 10 years ago

Love how we take so many charges!!!!!!!!!

melrank 10 years ago

Wow - that block on Taylor was impressive. I wish we had dunn that to Dunn.

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

DENDK24 - I couldn't agree more! Sherron brings it every game and I am always waiting to see what he does next. He is so fun to watch! I met him at his first Late Night and didn't even know who he was, but he BLEW me away that night and has gotten better and better ever since!!!

Just as I'm typing this he drives in for another amazing score!! Rock Chalk!

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

They were saying that last charge, Morris was moving. I thought Morris had good position all the way. Tough call for Baylor.

DENDK24 10 years ago

I'm in Denver too, where are you at???

melrank 10 years ago

Assuming we win, this has been a great night:

  • NC loses
  • Duke loses

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Say, any golf fans out there? Did ya see Tiger might be in a sex addict clinic? Is it just me, or is that a clever ploy to meet easy chicks?

Anything to not talk about this game.

Currently, BU +9 on rebounds. KU +10 on points though! Check that. +7

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

Henderson. You? Are you going to the game at Boulder in a couple weeks? I usually go to Choppers and watch, but not tonight.

Joe Joseph 10 years ago

Baylor is doing an incredible job of staying in this game. Freaking miss a shot.

DENDK24 10 years ago

Mel - Too Bad Kentucky isn't playing

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

guess I'll trade a free throw for a 3

melrank 10 years ago

KU - do you have to be a golf fan to be interested in a headline involving a Sex Addiction Clinic?

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

I never want to take Sherron for granted ever. He's having another great game! Keep it up, Sherron!

Joe Joseph 10 years ago

The shots that are going in for Baylor...

DENDK24 10 years ago

No I didn't get tickets, I love how CU makes all those stipulations for the KU game, shows you how important we are to them. I go to Choppers a bunch too...

Brian Powell 10 years ago

Bright spots!

Sherron. again. Our lack of TOs Both Morris's Finishing more on O

Still looking for: more intensity on D - both ball defense and rebounding.

What is Baylor's trey % this game?? insane!

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Nice one melrank. Keep drinking. It makes the game better and your posts most clever! 3 vodka tonics makes this game tolerable.

DENDK24 10 years ago

I'm in Denver, Not far from Belmar

melrank 10 years ago

There's some crazy stat about us holding opponents under 50% forever and that's in serious jeopardy right now.

Joe Joseph 10 years ago

Baylor basketball players haven't shot this well since............................................

Brian Powell 10 years ago

Mel, I revise it to 'most people nationwide many of whom don't post their guesses on this blog' don't see this as a blowout opportunity :P

biggest home win streak? team that beat us last year?

I smelled trouble a mile away

Theutus 10 years ago

Here we go again, settling for a 3 shot attempt on every possession... When are we gonna learn that we have to pound it in and work from the inside out.....

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Nice one stupidM!

Baylor not shooting blanks tonight. 51.2% from the field.

Joe Joseph 10 years ago

seriously wtf? 10 points? That fast? Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Brian Powell 10 years ago

___ games in a row that Cole's been dunked on?

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

Yeah it's crap they make you buy two other games. Who wants to go watch CU play Misery or Nebreska? I have a friend who has family with KU season tix and I guess they can buy them for just the one game, so that is how I'm getting mine this year.

RockChalk1225 10 years ago

Anyone else notice that this group has yet to develop that killer insticnt to put teams away. Up 10, then settle for jumpers and let them get right back into it. FINISH TEAMS

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Can we hold our breath for 3 minutes? Man, I can't sit still. Hope it doesn't come down to a last second shot!

Don Everett 10 years ago

They also have 11 more TO's than KU and KU has taken 17 more shots so far......................

fansincewilt 10 years ago

Since we can't guard them man to man maybe we should should consider a zone.

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

Nice play. Tweedy bird just dribbles in circles until we're dizzy, then dishes off for a dunk!

DENDK24 10 years ago

RockChalk I reiterate your statement

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Top 5 list, things overheard at the Sex Addict Clinic tonight:

  1. Hey baby, when it comes to this, I don't have a short game.

  2. This not havin sex is rough, wanna blow off some steam hot stuff?

  3. What time is happy hour around here?

  4. Hi, my name is Elridge, but you can call me El Tigre.


  1. Roll over and let me play the back nine.

Brian Powell 10 years ago

so if they're shooting the lights out, and we're missing a bunch of normal makes.. and they're outrebounding us..

the diff. is turnovers? the only way we're still tied is turnovers

Don Everett 10 years ago

Marcus is having a great game!!!!!!!

melrank 10 years ago

BP2U - very funny.

Actually, most of the official lines had this game at 13-15 points - maybe not a blowout but certainly a very large win in conference play. So, I understand.

But, you smelled the trouble and that's my point. Any win against a 14-2 team in conference play is a great win.

DENDK24 10 years ago

Have we ever had a player more cluth than Sherron??? Danny???...maybe

waywardJay 10 years ago

wow ... Lacedarius is amazing.....

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Collins calls for it and SWISH! And the rebound!

Dan Harris 10 years ago

Well holding opp fg% under 50% is going down lets hope home court winning streak doesn't, I need a scotch!

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

Man I love Sherron!!! I'll take him ANY day over Lacedarius!!!!

Brian Powell 10 years ago

"Anyone else notice that this group has yet to develop that killer insticnt to put teams away. Up 10, then settle for jumpers and let them get right back into it. finish teams"

I agree. Main factor in the close games..

Exception: SHERRON Mr.T, foo! COLLINS

melrank 10 years ago

Did Coach Self go "Oh @#$%^" when Sherron shot that?

Darrel Stice 10 years ago

This Baylor team with 2 losses isn't in the top 25 but UNC with 6 (now 7) is?!?! WTF???? They are legit!

Kent Wells 10 years ago

I don't know about Coach Self, but I did... Baylor needs a miss to be below 50%

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

Pretty simple why we won tonight. Collins is freakin' awesome.

Don Everett 10 years ago

Baylor needs to miss 6 shots to go below 50%

melrank 10 years ago

Great night. Good win. We're really good everyone.

Always my favorite night of the week, hanging with the Jayhawk brethren in Cyber-Lawrence enjoying a Rock Chalk Win - good night all.

Don Everett 10 years ago

BU is 25-48

What stats are you looking at?

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years ago

Thanks Jesse. Nice chat guys - see ya Saturday.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

I think those two misses (thinking that the 3rd will be called a tip try) drop them to 49%. Franklin was wrong...

waywardJay 10 years ago

g'd damn Lacedarius is dunn is awesome.... excellent gutty win by Kansas

Don Everett 10 years ago

Good game, good win, should help later in the year. Sherron was awesome as was Marcus. X may be hitting a wall. Tyshawn needs to get his head right. Cole will get better after he settles things with his GM. God Bless you and your family Cole. Brady is rock solid on D. The rest of the guys are coming along. Baylor has a good team.

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

kuwells -

stat tracker on says Baylor was 25-49 for 51%. not saying sportsline is 100% accurate but....

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

Wow! A collective sigh of relief! This was like the Davidson game in '08. Glad to get it over with. Hope we don't have to play these suckers in the League Tourney. Dunn was unconscious tonight!

fansincewilt 10 years ago

That 3 by Collins was the shot of the game.

Don Everett 10 years ago

kuwells - you are wrong - I was following the gamecast.

waywardJay 10 years ago

what a great game for Marcus, and Sherron.... it's clear we are starting to see this team develop a half court game... with or without Cole.....

got to see a bit more Xavier getting into traffic and making plays.... great news.... his steals and hustle plays were big tonight....

Kent Wells 10 years ago

NH - this could get interesting. Yahoo sports shows 49%... 25-51 Maybe they didn't post those last two misses yet...

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Oh well, stat over. Time to start a new run then. At least it is a win.

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

kuwells - hmm, we have a dilemma for sure - with a lot riding on it, obviously.

Anyone know an "official" stat tracker? brother just texted me saying tix on the 30th in Manhattan are minimum $200 and all the way up to $1k. WOW!

Mike Kendall 10 years ago

It was fun talking Jayhawk Nation again, tonight! The Streak stays alive!!!!!

Talk to you all on Saturday!

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Yahoo just changed to 25-48, 52.1%

Its a win.

And that is a hell of a lot for a ticket in Manhattan. I have mine for Austin. Hoping that is 1 vs. 2...

waywardJay 10 years ago

this just in from Bristol.... with a win on saturday North Carolina will barely maintain te 25th rank...and possibly 24t....

KGphoto 10 years ago

A quick glance at the box score would indicate Baylor won by 10-15.

FG% Baylor 52% / KU 43% FT% Baylor 79% / KU 76% 3PT Baylor 48% / KU 38% REB Baylor 34 / KU 26 BLK Baylor 7 / KU 0 (zero? really?)

But then...

Steals KU 15 / Baylor 5 TOs KU 7 / Baylor 20

Sherron Collins... Not a stat. Just a man. KU by 6.

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Nice Wayward. Hell, Roy will probably cry tonight and they will be back in the Top 10.

NH_JHawk 10 years ago

yes, agree. It's a win. Thank you, Sherron and McM!

Have a good night everyone ...

honk_for_hawks 10 years ago

seriously? if uconn and UNC are not proof that names matter, nothing can prove it. wichita state for instance is 16-2 with their only two losses @Ilinois state and against pitt in KC. they don't even get freaking votes for the top 25 but UNC gets to be ranked with SEVEN losses! wtf

honk_for_hawks 10 years ago

and lacedarius dunn is amazing. everytime I watch him play he makes shots that make me go WOW

lovemyhawks 10 years ago

that was exhausting but a great win. thank goodness for sherron and the twins!!! i liked it better when cole was ON THE BENCH!!! sure hope his life will settle down and he will play like a man soon!! saw some good stuff tonite but baylor is FOR REAL!!! wow. they can shoot and rebound!!!!! anyway...... a W and 53 at home!! RCJH!!

Kent Wells 10 years ago

Jesse: I have only seen that once before (KU vs. Memphis State in 1984 or so). They (Baylor) sure earned it. Always proud of our classy fans.

KGphoto 10 years ago

Just a man. And, oh yeah, the best point guard in the history of this storied program. This year Sherron isn't taking "No" for an answer, and that's gonna shine come tourney time.

As good as Lace was, Sherron was better.

As good as Vaughn was, Sherron is better.

Hinrich, Jordan, Pritchard, Jo Jo,

Sherron is the best.

JB I'm looking forward to a full report on Sherronatron. Don't keep me waiting.

honk_for_hawks 10 years ago

agreed. they definitely deserved it. its amazing how far they have come since the homicide ordeal. bravo to their coaching staff.

lovemyhawks 10 years ago

unc needs to drop out and NOT return to the top 25. many others deserve their spot for sure!

Ian Brown 10 years ago

Um... Great win Jayhawks. Honestly, we pulled out the W. However, I am extremely disappointed in X's shooting. He's horrific. I'd much rather see Morningstar, Reed, or even (dare I say it) Taylor, throwing up those abominable 30 footers than the "X man". Is he shooting with his right hand? Hell, let's get his brother in there. I'm sure he could shoot better than 10%.

odc213 10 years ago

Can X just sit down? Please. I don't trust him right now. No aggressive moves to the basket. Long missed shots. Stagnant.

rockchalkjayhawk4ku11 10 years ago

Collins is getting a lot of credit right now, which he definitely deserves, but don't forget about Marcus...Marcus has really been changing the tempo of this team, it's great to see him play so big. Also, seeing that many steals (mostly Xavier) makes the game so much more fun to watch! Great win, over a great team hawks!

Benjamin Piehler 10 years ago

gotta work on gettin the offense to gel, gotta get tyshawn and xavier scoring again, gotta learn how to attack a zone comfortably, but really, it was a good game, fun to be there, and the team is makin progress

Ryan Mullen 10 years ago

Here is a stat you don't see very often for KU teams in regular season play. Our bench only scored 4 points. All of them coming from Markief I cannot believe that our bench only scored 4 points that is like a tournament stat.

Jeff Hargate 10 years ago

Did anyone see, or hear Scott Drew yelling to his players during our free throws? I just want to make sure I am not crazy.

tstanlick1909 10 years ago

This team is worrisome. It is virtually the same team as last year with the addition of Xavier, which was a very big impact towards the beginning of the year. But now that he is missing threes along with his layups, we just are not the standout team. If we play like we have been at Kstate and at Texas, we will get stomped. I love the Jayhawks, but I will always be realistic.

Things I noticed:

Sherron will be the name of my first born son. Marcus is playing like he really wants to be a leader, he is playing incredibly well, his stats lately show for it. Tyshawn plays better off the bench, he came in for only fifteen minutes but dropped five meaningful dimes in the second half. Cole is playing horrible, he did not make an impact tonight whatsoever. 4 rebounds? He needs to play like the seven footer that he is, because lately he is soft!! Markieff is the worst player in the rotation, enough said. He plays bad defense, he misses layups and he misses free throws, and commits fouls. Brady is our version of Russell Robinson, it is just harder to tell because he is white.

Sherron Mario Stanlick. It will be difficult to find a nice woman to agree to that.

David Leathers 10 years ago

X needs to realize that he is our slasher. He just sits out beyond the arc and waits for the ball and oppurtunity to shoot the trey. He has size(6'6"), strength(225lbs.), and speed to drive the ball to the hoop anytime he wants. He needs to drive the ball and finish. At least get himself to the foul line.

It makes me wonder if HCBS has addressed this much in practices. If he has, then why is he still in there? He lately hasn't been shooting his insane FG percentage. He did tonight, however, play with a little bit of fire on the defensive end and crashed the boards with authority.

X, we love you man, but can you dunk on someone please?

kureader 10 years ago

Last week one of the LJW sportswriters called Sherron a Ball Hog ... so, what do you call him this week?

KGphoto 10 years ago

ralster: Wall is a f-r-e-s-h-m-a-n too.

X needs to apply himself. At this point, I see no NBA value. X is supposed to dominate. Thus far, against mediocre talent, he's disappeared.

Baylor lost at Colorado 78-71. Sherron is holding this team together again. Don't be fooled. Self is clinging to Sherron. X = zero in Big 12 play.

Aldrich will gain momentum. Marcus already has. (Does anybody else see a little Carmelo in him. If he continues to step out and hit 3's, then drive the lane for circus layup/runner/hook/finishes, he'll be a lottery).

Thomas? Ugh.

Where's Withey?

Oh Bill! Where would you be without Sherron?

Derek Conway 10 years ago

Good win and hopefully we keep improving but honestly, I think we are a lot more beatable right now than any of us or the team would like. If this exact game happened on the road at Baylor, I think that would have been just fine but at home? I understand we still won the game and they shot the ball very well, but we are the number 3 team in the nation right? I just don't see us playing at the level a championship team needs to be at.

-Maybe we will get there, we are just not there yet. -Maybe I am a spoiled Kansas fan who expects near perfection besides a loss here and there throughout the season.

PS-What in the world is wrong with Cole? I understand his personal family situation but honestly, during our last five games, I have watched the game with different friends and at some point in each game someone made a comment saying something like this..."Are you sure Aldrich is going to go pro after this year? I don't understand why people think he's so good."

Not saying i agree completely, but I also don't think that it's a coincidence that everyone is saying practically the same thing about him.

emjhawk04 10 years ago

Just because X hasn't shot the ball well recently doesn't mean he's not doing other things to help the team. He had 7 steals and a number of big rebounds. He's still learning and he'll be fine. He's in a little shooting slump, but hopefully he'll snap out of it soon. I really liked how he defended tonight...he's already improved a lot on the defensive end since the beginning of the season.

Bill Shaw 10 years ago

Is it just me or do the twins play better when Mama is in the house?

How about some wealthy alums setting up a Big Mama fund for the next month and a half?

Eric Schneider 10 years ago

X will be fine. A lot of freshman hit a wall about this time of year. There's nothing that can prepare them for conference play. Nothing in high school or AAU matches that intensity.

My bigger concern is hoping that Marcus wants to stay with his brother for one more year. Because his flying up a lot of NBA scouts lists.

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