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Sunday, February 14, 2010

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Kansas guard Sherron Collins pats his chest after a three-pointer against Iowa State during the second half, Saturday, Feb. 13, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Sherron Collins pats his chest after a three-pointer against Iowa State during the second half, Saturday, Feb. 13, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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Bill Self postgame press conference - Iowa State

Kansas basketball coach Bill Self addresses the media after the Jayhawks' 73-59 victory against Iowa State on Feb. 13.

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Which player were you most encouraged by in KU's 73-59 victory over Iowa State?

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KU-ISU basketball

Jackson in the ’house

Former Kansas University power forward Darnell Jackson decided to work up a sweat before Saturday’s KU-Iowa State game.

“I walked by the practice gym, and Darnell is in there working out. I told him, ‘When you were here, I never saw you do that once,’’’ KU basketball coach Bill Self said, joking with the second-year member of the Cleveland Cavaliers. “He looks great, so confident.”

Jackson, whose contract runs out after this season — “If they keep me I’ll be happy, if not I’ll go somewhere else,” he said simply — loves KU’s new practice digs.

“It made me upset because as soon as I left, they get this,” he said with a smile. “Nah ... they deserve it.”

Jackson thinks KU has what it takes to win the national title, just as his ’08 team did.

“I feel they can pull it off as long as they stay focused and keep their minds right,” Jackson said. “They’ll have their ups and downs, but have guys who have been through it — Cole (Aldrich), Sherron (Collins) and Brady (Morningstar).”

Jackson wore his national title ring to the game and flashed it to the fans when he was introduced on the videoboard.

“It was great to wear it here tonight. I never wear it during the (NBA) season,” said Jackson, who was guest on the halftime KU radio network broadcast of the game and also met the media afterward.

Injuries

Freshman Thomas Robinson took an elbow at practice Thursday and suffered a concussion. Self said Robinson still had some symptoms Saturday, so he wasn’t cleared to play. He’s listed as day-to-day. ... C.J. Henry is just 60 percent recovered from his severely bruised tailbone that has kept him out of several games, Self said.

Selby in the house

Josh Selby, a 6-foot-2 senior point guard from Baltimore’s Lake Clifton High, attended with his mom, Maeshon, on his recruiting visit. Selby, who is rated No. 4 nationally by Rivals.com, made an unofficial visit to KU for Late Night in the Phog. He has a final list of KU, Kentucky, Arizona, UConn, Indiana and Syracuse. He is slated to visit Kentucky the weekend of March 7. His mom said no decision was on the immediate horizon with other visits to make.

Running on

Marcus Morris, on KU’s 14-0 run against Iowa State and similar run that busted open the Nebraska game: “It might just be something that coach is saying because every time there's a timeout, and then we're coming out with a different spark. I'm not saying coach is sparking us out in the huddle, but the words are not good. He actually referred back to the Nebraska game about how they went up four. I guess we just came out of that timeout and started playing."

Stats, facts

Former KU players Calvin Thompson, Jeff Carey and Jeff Hawkins attended. ... Aldrich blocked three shots. He has 93, good for third on KU’s all-time single season block list. Greg Ostertag had 97 (1994) and Aldrich 94 last season. ... KU, which won its 56th straight game in Allen, has won 10 in a row versus ISU.

Comments

bpjhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

Nice to see DBlock and hear Pony in the house. Two class acts and stellar representatives of the University.

David Leathers 9 years, 11 months ago

Not only did the Mavs get Gooden... they got the would-have-been Jayhawk DeShawn Stevenson. He decided to go pro after he signed his letter of intent to go to KU. This was before the one season rule.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 11 months ago

Nice to see NBA players loving/sweating on the court they built, then flashing their hardware.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Dick Vitale said last night during the Tenn/Kentucky game broadcast that he hates the one season rule for High School prospects. He said the NCAA needs to get rid of it!!!! He was very adamant about it. Any thoughts?

Dyrk Dugan 9 years, 11 months ago

"Any thoughts?"

sure. i agree. make it just like football...if you're enrolled at a four year college, you have to maintain grades toward a degree for six semesters...before you are eligible for the NBA draft.

when you declare for the NBA draft, and the NBA has your application papers...you're done....no turning back. You're in the draft. same as the 18 year old coming out of high school....once you're in the draft, you're there...and your college eligibility is gone.

and move up the deadline....make it May 1 each year. that way, a college coach doesn't have to wonder.

all of these things would help big time college programs, and "the league."

AverageCitizen 9 years, 11 months ago

Ha,Ha, Mikendal. I see what you did!

Did Dickie REALLY say the NCAA? Time for him to hang up the sneakers.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 11 months ago

I think there ought to be a league specificaly for those who choose to forgo college. It would be a primer for the "real" NBA. That would seperate the true talent that would "graduate" from that league after proving themselves worthy. The ones who can't "graduate" could then go into the D league or see that they don't have what it takes in the NBA and either go abroad or elsewhere. It would also not tempt players from going to college just to get to the NBA with no intentions of getting an education.

That league would also be used to condition players for the social aspects of the NBA and could avoid any orientation embarassments that could happen and have happened from these young players.

The concept would eliminate OAD players from college thus creating a more long term commitment and consistency with team development. If a player developed during his college playing time, as many do, then their stock should be even better for that development and they should be just as valuable an asset to NBA teams. After all, the NBA can't rely on only great talent coming directly from high school.

ParisHawk 9 years, 11 months ago

Compared to the NBA, the NFL has about four times as many roster spots and many more rounds in the draft. That is probably one reason why they let basketball players "test the waters" one time, so they can better guess whether they'll even be drafted.

The May deadline is for backing out of the draft after declaring. If you couldn't back out anymore, that deadline would go away.

I like Coach Self's idea : once you're enrolled, you're ineligible for two years.

mikehawk 9 years, 11 months ago

I completely disagree. Anyone can enter the draft out high school or college, and as long at they don't sign or receive money from an agent or other sources, they can retain their eligibility. If you don't get drafted, or aren't drafted at a place you can greatly benefit, you can still play in college. Baseball has done it years this way. This makes it where no one has a right to say you can't make a living from your talents if you are good enough. That is the way it is for everyone else in the work world. Granted, the money/agent thing would be hard to police, but money is finding its way to players and families in big time programs, anyway.

Dan Harris 9 years, 11 months ago

Cali- Gooden was with the Mavs now he's a Wizard unfortunately. I live in the Metroplex and have enjoyed having him as a Mav this year oh well.

86finalfour 9 years, 11 months ago

mvjayhawk,

If you couldn't retract your draft status, then Rush wouldn't have played in 08 and your jayhawks wouldn't have been champions.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

Lots of views here, and I appreciate honest opinions!!!!

AverageCitizen-----I thought Dickie said the NCAA but not 100% sure. I wish I had DVRed it so I could check to see what he said "exactly."

I guess I disagree with Dick Vitale. On one side, one is not going to play basketball all your life---it would be nice to fall back on a degree of study. On the flip side, if your talented enough, like a Kobe Bryant, to go straight to the NBA and collect the money, I guess, go for it. Lots to consider, I suppose.

cearle23 9 years, 11 months ago

Dickey V would be mistaken as it is not the NCAA's rule it is the NBA's... he should take up his beef with Mr. Stern BABY...

Dyrk Dugan 9 years, 11 months ago

"I completely disagree. Anyone can enter the draft out high school or college, and as long at they don't sign or receive money from an agent or other sources, they can retain their eligibility. If you don't get drafted, or aren't drafted at a place you can greatly benefit, you can still play in college. Baseball has done it years this way."

Mikehawk, of course, baseball does it this way....nobody cares about the MLB draft. You have 20 plus rounds! in the NBA, the draft is EVERYTHING.....the money is slotted for your pick place. also, no one cares, including colleges...about whether a kid gets drafted or not...because it's right after the season. the NBA draft is in late June....three and a half months after the college season ends.

86finalfour, You're right. but you're looking at it after the fact. the rules now ARE the rules...the "it is what it is" holds here.

if he doesn't have that loose rule, does he even apply in the 1st place? that's precisely the whole point....do you wanna be a pro? or do you wanna have some fun and be a kid? with all this money, comes great responsibility...and these kids have to face some hard, cold realities. you just can't take back every decision you ever make...and get a do over.

Mike Kendall 9 years, 11 months ago

mvjayhawk--- That last paragraph puts this in perspective. I kind of became educated by some of the posts above. Thanks for sharing your point of view and to others who shared, as well.

On a basketball note today----Syracuse lost to Louisville today, in Syracuse, 66-60. Does this put a little damper in Syracuse's momentum? Any thoughts?

Woody Cragg 9 years, 11 months ago

Darnell is a tremendous examplle of what the college experience can do for a young person. At one point when he was way down and about to quit, coach made a trip to OK City to spend some time with him to weigh the options. I think DJ realized then that he was much more than a peice of meat to his basketball family. Huge turnaround for Darnell, and the next year, they got their rings. There was major maturity for that young man at that point. Plus a follow through that some kids, even many adults could never accomplish. Not all of these kids are cut out to be students, and many don't even want to try. It's a stupid rule, I believe solely for the purpose of enhancing the college game for the $, and to allow the NBA to see the talent in competition for free. Then again, maybe The NCAA and the NBA are in cahoots on this deal. It sure walks and quacks like a duck.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 11 months ago

mikehawk says, "That is the way it is for everyone else in the work world."

Get a clue Mike. That is soooo amazingly wrong, especially when you are talking about professionals.

Most professionals have many years of college required to even get a sniff, and then you might have to work as an apprentice, intern, assistant, ... before you can even consider taking a test to be a professional. And most of those professions have groups of leaders that sit around and decide how much college, experience, or whatever you need. It's about ensuring the quality of the product being delivered and thereby the quality of the profession as a whole.

Anybody can go be Joe Burgerboy if they want to, but not a professional.

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