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Sunday, February 28, 2010

Keegan

Loss could help KU down line

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KU-Oklahoma State basketball

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Which was more responsible for Oklahoma State's offensive performance against KU on Saturday?

  • Hot shooting 60% 1563 votes
  • Poor defense 36% 948 votes
  • Undecided 2% 62 votes

2573 total votes.

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Does it matter to you if Kansas beats North Carolina to 2,000 wins?

  • Yes 62% 180 votes
  • No 37% 107 votes

287 total votes.

— It wouldn’t be accurate to say the nation’s No. 1-ranked college basketball team went through the motions Saturday in a first-half debacle in Gallagher-Iba Arena. More like it went through the slow-motions.

Unranked Oklahoma State consistently beat Kansas University down-court in both directions, went harder after rebounds and showed more aggressiveness and confidence in pulling off an 85-77 upset that inspired the student body to spill onto the court in celebration.

In short, what a horrible Saturday to be a fan of Kansas basketball.

In failing to overcome a 16-point halftime deficit that grew to 19 points, KU failed to put a comfortable distance on Kentucky in the competition to secure St. Louis as a regional site. It also made Roy Williams’ North Carolina Tar Heels, who upset Wake Forest earlier in the day, the prohibitive favorites to reach 2,000 victories first.

The shot at what could have been the second undefeated Big 12 conference season died, and KU’s hold on a No. 1 national ranking loosened.

Plus, Oklahoma State’s James Anderson virtually clinched Big 12 Player of the Year honors with a 27-point effort in a game in which Sherron Collins didn’t score in the first 16 minutes and Cole Aldrich impressed his coach so little he played just eight second-half minutes.

All of which means?

Not much.

If the Kansas basketball players polish their mirrors in the wake of this loss that killed a 13-game winning streak, the loss will do more good than harm for their chances of winning a second national title in three seasons.

Until it was too late to matter, the Jayhawks defended like a complacent team, and they are nowhere near talented enough defensively to get away with that against even an NCAA Tournament bubble team. It’s one thing to be told that, a far louder message when shown it.

“I feel like any team has to be scrappy,” Marcus Morris said. “We can’t just go into the game thinking we’re going to win the game just because we’re No. 1. We have to play, or we’re going to get beat again.”

Oklahoma State was in can’t-miss shooting mode, but give at least a little bit of the blame for that to a Kansas defense that didn’t show up in the first half.

“We can’t do that,” Morris said of the team playing well only for a half. “If we come out in the tournament and another team shoots us out of the game like that, we’ll go home early.”

Specifically, Morris lamented the poor job KU did in getting back on defense.

“I feel like they killed us in transition,” Morris said. “They were running right to the three-point line, and that hurt us.”

Some of the open three-pointers were the result of the Cowboys having numbers advantages in transition. Others came as a result of KU defenders failing to fight through screens.

From the outside, it’s evident this Kansas team needs to play with great defensive intensity for foes to hate playing against it. But is that as obvious to players who have gotten away with playing great defense only in spurts, gotten away with it to the tune of a 27-2 record?

The answer to that question will determine whether this team has what it takes to go the distance.

Comments

Edward Daub 4 years, 9 months ago

Banning the Keegan Individual Ratings will also help KU down the line. Basketball is a Team Sport! Boycott the Keegan Ratings!

Edward Daub 4 years, 9 months ago

I knew KU was in trouble when a 5'9" guard resembling a grown Opie Taylor in basketball shorts went 4 for 4 from 3 point range! Guard him!

yates33333 4 years, 9 months ago

Dont blame Keegan. He didn't lose the game.

Steve Brown 4 years, 9 months ago

7th calvary at little big horn was helped down the line....

Robert Brock 4 years, 9 months ago

..."the loss will do more good than harm."

Wow! Perhaps the Jayhawks should have been losing more games in order to learn important lessons. Instead, we screwed up and won in Austin and Manhattan.

docileboy 4 years, 9 months ago

If getting beat helps there is a good chance the Hawks could be great after the KSU and Mizzouri games.

rwhawk 4 years, 9 months ago

I hope that this article does not become the typical Keegan bashing that his writing often generates. He's absolutely right. He didn't say its good we lost, his point is that if they learn the lessons they need to learn from this game then it will pay off in March and maybe even April. Self made the same point in '08 when that team had their struggles in the Big 12--they learned their lesson. I hope this team will, too.

RockCaCO3 4 years, 9 months ago

Brock, the quote was "lose" not "losses". One league loss at OSU this time of year isnt the end of the world as alot of posters seem to believe. I'd rather get that loss out their system now than in the tourney.

kellyrojo78 4 years, 9 months ago

Its basketball. The nature of the game is you are going to lose sooner or later. Dont freak out people. Better to geta win outa your system now than in 2 weeks

jayhawkinATL 4 years, 9 months ago

Great things happened after we last lost in Stillwater!!!!

Tony Bandle 4 years, 9 months ago

Let's see how helpful this loss was:

1] Showed a crumby effort by Kansas to a national audience [including members of the selection committeee] 2] Failed to clinch an outright title. 3] Added pressure to KU and hope to KSU for the game Wednesday. 4] Allowed us to blow an opportunity to take a lead on UK for the overall # One. 5] Highlighted a number of KU weaknsesses which could be useful to future opponents. 6] Always a confidence builder for future games...not!!

Yep...I'm pretty happy with it........Double Not!!!!!!

jayhawkinATL 4 years, 9 months ago

Rebound to close out with wins against KSU and MU and we'll be just fine.

Actually believe that KSU would have a better shot at beating us had we beaten OSU...now I think they are in for a beat-down, especially if they end up ranked higher than us this week.

jayhawkinATL 4 years, 9 months ago

Speaking of this week's rankings, I think it'll shape up like this:

1) Syracuse 2) Duke (which is a joke because the ACC is a joke this year) 3) KU 4) UK 5) KSU

Thoughts?

jayhawkinATL 4 years, 9 months ago

The above is based on the assumption that Duke will win today @ UVA and Purdue will lose at home versus Michigan State (due to the loss of Hummel).

bayareajhawk 4 years, 9 months ago

This was one of those games that you feel like you've lost after about 5 minutes. I've seen other good Jayhawk teams have these kind of games. Remember getting shellacked at Wake Forest in 2000-2001? Or by Texas in Austin a few years ago? This was a much better performance than those. Hopefully the guys will start feeling mortal and turn up the defensive intensity. I want them to take every point they give up as an insult.

As a basketball fan, I was really sorry to see Robbie Hummel get hurt again. I've enjoyed watching that Purdue team since Hummel and company were freshmen, and as somebody who grew up in Indiana hating Purdue, that's hard to say! As a Jayhawk fan, I'm not too upset about the injury because I was scared of them and felt they were a Final 4 team. Now they are probably a Sweet 16 team. It's just sad to see a great player have to watch his teammates play in streetclothes, and it's also sad for those teammates who probably won't achieve what they set out to at the beginning of the season.

MGJayhawk 4 years, 9 months ago

Jayhawkinatl - Duke has 4 losses so they won't be #2. I think we'll all slide down one and 'Cuse will move up to #1 which is fine because they'll lose again this season. Big East is tough.

Jack Wilson 4 years, 9 months ago

Wow, what a surprise. A column suggesting a loss will help us down the line. Original. Insightful. Perhaps had this already written just waiting .. and will use the same theme in the future. Just a waste of space. It only helps, in retrospect, if you win a national championship. Then everything had a purpose or a reason.

milehighhawk 4 years, 9 months ago

Excellent article, Keegan.

HighEliteMajor - take a deep breath. We're 27-2.

okiedave 4 years, 9 months ago

KU was outrebounded by 10 rebounds by a much shorter team. KU was run into the ground by a team with not nearly the depth of KU. KU was outcoached. Okie State wanted this game more. The result was a classic ass whoopin. Hawks need to focus for Wednesday game. If we can't beat KSU at home, we deserve to share the Big XII trophy with KSU.

jhawkroger 4 years, 9 months ago

Unfortunately KU has a history under Coach Self of winning ugly but now we lose ugly as well. Shades of TN. Losing in and of itself is not the end of the world or even the season, but yesterday was a real stinker. Where is our all-american point guard? I have heard Knight, Mushmouth, Phelps, and even Bilas extol the greatness of the point guard but in the last month none of that has shown thru. Maybe if he would stick his head in the game instead of his interest in fathering children he would be better off. KSU will provide all the game we need and I guess we will see what we are made of on Wednesday. Could be interesting.

gchawk 4 years, 9 months ago

anthonyzal, couldn't agree with you more. Back in the dark ages when I played there was such a tremendous separation between the elite teams and the average teams, not so in this day and age. The athlete's are so much better these days because of their training regimes and coaching that there is definitely a higher level of parity between teams and if someone has an off night, in the case of KU yesterday, there's a good chance of getting knocked off. I have to agree with Keegan's article in the fact that this loss could prove to be beneficial to us, and, as anthonyzal stated, I'd much rather lose to OSU on their floor than anyone on ours. We'll be fine, just an off day. RCJHGKU

flinch 4 years, 9 months ago

I'm just waiting for jabate to weigh in before i comment.

FELONY 4 years, 9 months ago

Duke isnt jumping over KU and UK.

That would be ridiculous and would mean KU or UK wouldnt move back ahead of them until they lost a 5th game.

Duke will be content to be at the 4 slot with 4 losses.

jayhawkinATL 4 years, 9 months ago

jmfitz and FELONY...after some more thought, I think you both are calling it more accurate.

Tony Bandle 4 years, 9 months ago

anthonyzal and gchawk....I see your points and I really can't argue your logic.{ I really thought we were going to take Okie State}

I just can't see any loss as a "good loss". The qualifier is that this provides the motivating point for HCBS to push this team [and Sherron Collins] back to full performance.

However, if Kansas loses either or both of these these next two, I will stand by my original email, but, please Hawks prove me wrong...I can almost walk to the Midwest regionals. Salt Lake City would be a hell of a jaunt!!

CaramelMacchMan 4 years, 9 months ago

KU still has #1 RPI.

There is no way KU is dropping to 4th.

Syracuse KU Duke (DUKE will be ranked 3rd because of rpi.) UK

Steve Corder 4 years, 9 months ago

What an schizophrenic piece of writing.... The K-State is the pivotal game of the season. Most likely the last two games will mean the difference between a #1 or #2 seed. KU must dominate the next two, period, if it wants to really be considered (outside the KU blogisphere) a tough national championship caliber team... OSU is a weak team with one star and we played like it was only going to require nominal effort.

As for Duke. Lose once more and Duke jumps ahead. Duke wins out in the weakened ACC...KU?

jayhawkinATL 4 years, 9 months ago

No. 3 Purdue is about to go down to the Spartans!

jayhawkinATL 4 years, 9 months ago

Just noticed that Wednesday's game is on the Big 12 Network. Wow!!! Surprised that ESPN didn't lock up this match-up of likely top 5 teams.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

drgnslayr,

For a minute there I thought I was caught in Ionesco's "Rhinoceros" with Gene Wilder and Zero Mostel and I was the only one seeing the rhinoceroes outside the cafe--the rhinos in this case being Sherron with dead legs.

Sherron's legs have been progressively dying for three games now.

The OSU game was just the first game that he started the game with them dead.

This has been the price of playing him so many minutes. in close games and asking him to do so much...again.

Sherron playing 37 minutes is like Tyshawn playing three games.

Sherron playing 37 minutes, is like X playing a game and a half.

Oh, I'll stop with this.

The point is everyone takes the phenomenal physical acts that he performs for granted, and as routine now. When we need a basket, and the offense isn't producing one, Sherron is Gunga Din. It is unbelievable how much physical energy he has to expend on these amazing drives that everyone has stopped being amazed at. And when he pulls up at 28-30 feet for one of those long bombs in order to ensure it is not blockable, it takes a ton of calories to get his squatty little body up in the air to launch those puppies.

Sherron is a high impact player who has to expend megawatts to make these impacts happen. Heck, yes, his legs are dead.

But so are Coles!

OMG! Don't you see the rhinos?! :-)

This is an unprecedented situation in my basketball memory. I have never seen two stars, two bonafide All Americans both go dead legged at the same time.

And Brady, who survived Matriciano and didn't even play the first semester games, and so should be invincible, looks like his legs are about to give too. Cole and Sherron I can kind of understand, but not Brady.

Its like all three have been kissing the same girl and she's named Mononucleosis Mary.

This is a huge problem, if it persists

Emotional burn out can be handled all sorts of ways.

But physical exhaustion this time of year is a serious constraint on a team. These guys usually just keep getting more and more fit, then plateau around now and then enjoy the heck out of playing unless the game goes to double overtime.

What gives here!?

KuSports4life 4 years, 9 months ago

Dude, Sherron has spaghetti legs cuz he plays way too much! We have ej, c.j., and reed and morningstar off the bench and he coach keeps playing this guy like he's superman.. he needed to rest during some of these sad games like home against nebraska and t. tech and iowa st but we couldn't really put any one away.. this will affect our team in the tourney.. trust me.. Sherron goes KU goes!

KuSports4life 4 years, 9 months ago

Dude, Sherron has spaghetti legs cuz he plays way too much! We have ej, c.j., and reed and morningstar off the bench and he coach keeps playing this guy like he's superman.. he needed to rest during some of these sad games like home against nebraska and t. tech and iowa st but we couldn't really put any one away.. this will affect our team in the tourney.. trust me.. Sherron goes KU goes!

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

"Regarding Transition Being a Problem in Stillwater"

Yup, but transition, unlike fecal matter, does not just happen.

  1. Transition occurs off missed baskets. Make more shots and there are fewer transition opps.

  2. Grab more offensive boards and cram the ball back down in the basket and there are fewer transition opps.

  3. Have a 6'11" mad stork with arms in the game playing at usual energy levels and waving his arms to limit where outlet passes can go and fewer transition opps occur.

  4. Have the 2 or 3 guards jumping into outlet passing lanes also reduces transition opps.

These four factors have a cascading effect on how frequently one is hurrying down the court behind in transition.

In cascading phenomena, it is always good to start remedying problems as early in the cascade as possible.

The way you make more baskets is to have your post man show up with a full battery, and your star PG show up with a full battery, work for better shots and have rested legs that can elevate your stars sufficiently to make the good shots. This requires less practice, more days off and perhaps less minutes played in games.

The way you grab more rebounds and get more stick backs is to have rested legs that can motor to carom. This requires less practice, more days off, and perhaps less minutes played in games.

To keep your mad stork in the games, so he can disrupt out let passing is to...well, you know the drill.

To get your 2 and 3 position players into the outlet passing lanes, well, I don't know why they weren't. I suppose it is simplest to say that Tyshawn has attention problems on things like that, and X is a freshman still learning the concept. But during the time that Brady and Tyrel were playing, guys who usually do this sort of thing in their sleep, they didn't do it much either. Hmmm. Search me on this phenomenon.

Anyway, the cascade seems fixable to me.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

Dear Duder and KuSports4life,

This be the Dudee!

Your concept is very strong.

But why didn't Sherron get more tired sooner last season playing more minutes and taking lots more shots?

Why didn't Cole get more tired sooner last season playing lots more minutes and doing more scoring?

Are Sherron and Cole aging prematurely, like guys on Star Trek that visit some weird planet with strange virus that accelerate the aging process?

What gives here?

Mike Bratisax 4 years, 9 months ago

Teams learn from winning not getting embarrassed on national TV

drtommy 4 years, 9 months ago

Jaybate. Sheron's problems started at the end of the K-State game when he had back spams. I'm not sure about Cole he has appeared to have stretches where he just wasn't up to par physically. every one chalked it up the emotional stress he was under. I dont know if he has a lowgrade nagging injury. It looks to me like Sherron's core is weak. That's why he is just a hair off on the 3 ;pointer's and doesnt have the body control to make those bank shots when he drives the lane. I just hope they have a good group of Chiro's.PT's and Trainer who know how to get him ready for the Tourneys.

Mike Kendall 4 years, 9 months ago

jmfitz--- I agree with your rankings and truly believe the basketball god and experts that vote for the Top 25 will make it happen:

1--Syracuse 2--Kansas 3--Kentucky 4--Duke 5--Kansas State

I also, agree with ralster that I'm not too worried about the Hawks getting better down the road. Coach Self knows what he is doing. Stay positive, Jayhawk Nation! Things will be alright. Rock Chalk!

Ryan Mullen 4 years, 9 months ago

The fact is both Sherron and Cole suck. They both need at least 4 more years of college if they are going to make it in the NBA or life for that matter.

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

"Some Things I Wonder About in the Throes of Post Traumatic Loss Syndrome"

Does Sherron Collins ever get tired of his brilliant plays being taken for granted by certain KU fans?

Does Tom Keegan ever compose stories in the nude in his office?

Did The Muppets model Bert off Frank Martin, or was Frank Martin spell bound by Bert in childhood and slowly evolved his appearance to look like Bert?

Will Kirstie Alley be granted three seats to attend the KU-KState game?

Does Bill Mayer ever compose stories in the nude in his office?

Could Max Falkenstein still do a better job of color commentary than Dick Vitale?

Does anyone know if K-State players will start the game wearing brass knuckles, or will they put them on only down the stretch?

How is the proper way to refer to Travis Ford: short, height challenged, or a little person?

Does JNewell ever compose stories in the nude in his office?

Since Henry Iba was not good enough to get his name placed first on OSU's Gallagher-Iba arena, what exactly would Henry Iba have had to have done to get his name first?

Since James Naismith invented the game of basketball and his statue is smaller than Forest Allen's statue, and his name is on the floor, but not on the field house, what would James Naismith have had to have done to get a bigger statue and a field house with his name on it?

In the grand scheme of things, is it nobler to tap a new head coach, or a new keg?

Does Dugan A. Man ever compose stories clothed in his office?

(Note: The above is all fiction and satire, no malice.)

philipolson 4 years, 9 months ago

does Jaybate have a life?

(Note: The above is all fiction and satire, no malice.)

skwahjayog 4 years, 9 months ago

I agree with you, Ralster. I would take Bill Self over any other coach in the country--we are so lucky to have him! And the same goes for Sherron. It never ceases to amaze me that, even when we are 27-2 and generally considered one of the best, if not THE best, teams in the country by virtually all the experts, our fan base isn't satisfied and wants more. I, for one, absolutely love this team and have enjoyed this season immensely. Yes, the OSU game was frustrating, but oh well... the sun still came up the next morning. I just hope we take care of business on Senior Night. RCJH!!!

Dyrk Dugan 4 years, 9 months ago

"Since Henry Iba was not good enough to get his name placed first on OSU's Gallagher-Iba arena, what exactly would Henry Iba have had to have done to get his name first?"

jayb. you wax on and on, but please refrain from commentary when ripping into institutions, on something you know nothing about.

Ed Gallagher won 11 NCAA titles as the OSU wrestling coach before 1950. He was a great athlete, football player, graduated with an engineering degree. He grew up in ...and coached for a few years ....in Kansas.

with all due respect to Mr. Iba...it probably should just be Gallagher arena, when you consider his overall impact to the school's athletics and tradition. Yes, Mr. Iba did win a couple of titles in the 40s....but Ed Gallagher established a dynasty...one that, in all fairness, has dwarfed Cowboy basketball.

what more does Mr. Iba have to do? win a bunch...win a bunch more...and then he MIGHT be in the ballpark of Ed Gallagher.

KANSTUCKY 4 years, 9 months ago

he said "dwarf cowboy basketball"

How is the proper way to refer to Travis Ford: short, height challenged, or a little person?

Dwarf. Follow the yellow brick road and see you in KC.

Vincent Patterson 4 years, 9 months ago

Some of my fellow hawks need to calm down. I mean dam, we lose a tough game on the road against a legitimate team and now everyone thinks our season is done. We are 27-2, 13-1 in conference play! That's pretty dam good. Beginning of the season, did you really think we would go undefeated in conference play? Yeah, it sounded good especially as the season progressed, but undefeated, really? OSU would have put it on anybody Saturday and we just happened to be the victim. Time to move on. We got bigger fish to fry now. This loss will serve as fresh reminder in their heads for the next couple of weeks of what can happen if you don't bring it every single game and how it feels to lose. We needed this and I personally am happy it happened. Flashback to 08 after we loss to OSU...

I do agree somewhat with the spaghetti legs theories posted on here. Sherron does need some rest. I bet they make him drop another 10-12 pounds at the next level, otherwise his body won't hold up a full NBA season.

Ryan Mullen 4 years, 9 months ago

mvjayhawk,

You are a tool man. Ripping on institutions is what all faithful Jayhawk fans should be doing. Please don't come onto a blog posing as a jayhawk fan. Go back to your OK State blogs and troll under someones elses bridge.

oldnongrad 4 years, 9 months ago

All this crap about Sherron's tired legs has tired me quite a bit. If his legs are so tired, how did he play like he did in the last 15 minutes of the game Saturday? I agree that he needs more rest in every game and think that we have plenty of people to give him the rest. I think that he and Tyshawn were trying to take the ball into a lane that often had five Cowboys in it and there just wasn't a lot of room.

Both Tyshawn and Sherron are very deadly when they pull up at 10 to 12 feet but they didn't get that done Saturday. The team could have benefited from X driving and pulling up short of the lane where he is also deadly. We need for him to take a bigger hand in the shooting and trying to score.

The team is ready for the end of season grind because there are enough quality guards on it to carry them through. That game was just one of those that you will lose, no matter what you do. Nobody can shoot like the Cowboys did and the defense of threes can pick up if they do.

I think that too many here are willing to see only the bad parts of losing a game and not looking at the fact that the same thing happened to so many other teams this weekend. The only problem is to stop anyone else from playing a buzz saw game again, against them. They are still being called the best team in the nation by the ESPN crowd and after that game any of them could be as down on them as so many here are.

I was sure that they would lose one of the last three games and even thought that it would be that one. Anderson is just not someone that can be stopped when the rest of the team is that far above their heads. He deserves to be the number one player of the conference because he has played like that every game all year just hasn't had the help he had Saturday.

samfrmsyracuse 4 years, 9 months ago

tom keegan are you for real? how in the world looking at how you voted you had KANSAS , KENTUCKY , THEN SYRACUSE. are you nuts or did you drink the moonshine this weekend and didnt pay attention to who kansas lost to . syracuse is peaking and you still think kansas is number 1 . i think that the newspaper yor writing for should turn their vote to the rights in to maybe some student at the elementary level. you are a joke and thts my opion from syracuse . but i'm also going to write to www.syracuse .com and direct people tp the vote site , because you are a joke

jaybate 4 years, 9 months ago

mvjayhawk,

Ed Gallagher mattering more than Henry Iba.

Wrestling mattering more basketball.

Classic.

How many seats do you think Iba Arena (I'm changing the name arbitrarily) would have had, had OSU had to depend on wrestling revenues to build it?

Wrestling is a great sport. One of the greatest that never became widely popular. But it is a minor sport in the scheme of NCAA athletitics and it always has been, except at a few schools. And even at those schools wrestling could not pay for arenas like Iba Arena. It is not regularly televised on a national package on a nation,or global network, and it does not pull big revenues as a result.

The persons that make the gold make the rules.

The goose that lays the golden egg, gets its name on the egg, Not some robin laying a dynasty of little blue ones.

OSU needs a bigger arena, anyway.

If they don't name the next one for Iba first, then they deserve to remain a lesser basketball school.

Henry Iba was, after Allen, the single greatest influence on college basketball, and frankly, though i don't want to open this can of worms with 100, when we have a ring to win, Iba may actually have exerted a greater influence on the philosophy of how today's game is played than Allen.

You toss off Iba winning a couple of rings as if it were just a minor accomplishment.

Phog Allen only won one ring in the post war era stretching to 1964. No other coach in that era won more than two rings, except for Rupp perhaps, and he was winning them hiring teams and playing with point shaving subsidies. Rupp doesn't count.

I read up on Ed Gallagher.

I am frankly incredulous at your take just as I have always been appalled at OSU putting Iba's name second on that building. It was Iba and his legacy that built the revenue stream for that building, not Ed Gallagher.

If OSU wants to honor Ed Gallagher, it should build a small gymnasium with the revenues wrestling generates and it should call it Gallagher Gym.

Or else OSU should park Gallagher's name second the way he deserves.

Honestly, it is a disgrace to a great Okie State basketball tradition and it is a disrespecting of the great game of basketball generally.

Rock Chalk!

Dyrk Dugan 4 years, 9 months ago

"You are a tool man. Ripping on institutions is what all faithful Jayhawk fans should be doing. Please don't come onto a blog posing as a jayhawk fan. Go back to your OK State blogs and troll under someones elses bridge."

jayhawkinmullen, that's funny stuff. i'm sure whereever Mullen is, you're the leading standup comic in town (township, county, plot of land in the woods).

The good news is, within the guidelines set forth by the LJW, anyone, jayhawk fan or not, can post on here..and say anything they want. Most of the opinions posted here are nonsense...but at least they are coming from the heart. silly things said, when factually wrong that i read, will be corrected.

i urge you to continue posting similar nonsense...so i can laugh heartily. (and please, upgrade the namecalling...you can do better.)

Ryan Mullen 4 years, 9 months ago

mbjayawk, Your right I can do better. You are a fart factory butthole with maggots on top. Love you man.

Dyrk Dugan 4 years, 9 months ago

Jaybate,

i knew you would defend the money and fame angle on your retort. your predictability is, well, predictable.

Mr. Iba's name IS on the arena...i mean, you're arguing a point about another school's legends....and clearly Mr. Gallagher has done more for the school, and it's place in college athletics than anyone else.

my post stands as is...your reply is noted, and you stand corrected. case closed.

JayhawkBigXII 4 years, 9 months ago

I'm not worried in the least. KU lost 3 games on '08...Turned out petty good. The Hawks need to finish out and put an ass whoopin on the Mild-can'ts. And I mean an ASS WHOOPIN!!! This is an emotional senior night... Self will have them guaranteed ready. The Phog will be LOUD, PROUD and ROCKIN!!!!!!!!

JayhawkBigXII 4 years, 9 months ago

mvjayhawk -

You are clearly....wrong. Boone Pickens name needs to be on the arena. He has, without a doubt, done more for the school, and it's place in college athletics than anyone else.

Ryan Mullen 4 years, 9 months ago

mvjayhawk,

I am so glad that when the Paige Lauri was caught cheating and the University of Missouri had to change the name of the arena you did not find this funny in any way. In fact you kept the high ground with your MU freinds and did not rip on the university in any way. Nor do you rip on any universities in any way, like KSU or MU you always take the high ground. Good for you sir.

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