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Sunday, February 28, 2010

Gary Bedore’s KU hoops notebook

Kansas forward Marcus Morris collides with Oklahoma State guard Obi Muonelo during the first half, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010 at Gallagher-Iba Arena in Stillwater.

Kansas forward Marcus Morris collides with Oklahoma State guard Obi Muonelo during the first half, Saturday, Feb. 27, 2010 at Gallagher-Iba Arena in Stillwater.

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KU-Oklahoma State basketball

Reader poll

Which was more responsible for Oklahoma State's offensive performance against KU on Saturday?

  • Hot shooting 60% 1563 votes
  • Poor defense 36% 948 votes
  • Undecided 2% 62 votes

2573 total votes.

Reader poll

Does it matter to you if Kansas beats North Carolina to 2,000 wins?

  • Yes 62% 180 votes
  • No 37% 107 votes

287 total votes.

No outright title yet

Kansas University’s basketball team failed to clinch the outright Big 12 title Saturday in Stillwater, Okla.

Kansas State’s victory over Missouri in Manhattan kept the Wildcats in contention for a possible tie.

KU is 13-1 in league play. KSU is 11-3 with two games remaining.

KSU will meet KU at 7 p.m. Wednesday in Allen Fieldhouse.

No. 1 in the house

Saturday’s game was Oklahoma State’s first against a No. 1-ranked opponent in Stillwater in more than 20 years. OSU beat top-ranked Oklahoma, 77-73, on Feb. 4, 1989.

The fans celebrated the ’Pokes’ eight-point victory over KU by storming the court. Several hundred orange-clad students hoisted sophomore guard Keiton Page on top of their shoulders, giving him a victory ride.

“It was a great feeling,” Page said after scoring 15 points off 5-of-6 shooting. He was 4-of-4 from three.

“I was feeling a little claustrophobic. When they picked me up, I caught my breath. I thought I was going to pass out,” Page said with a laugh.

Obviously, it’s been a long time between games versus No. 1 teams at historic Gallagher-Iba.

“I was born in 1989,” OSU standout James Anderson told the Daily Oklahoman before the game.

Anderson, a 6-foot-6 junior from Junction City, Ark., chose the Cowboys over the Jayhawks in recruiting.

He told the Tulsa World that both OSU and KU seemed “like a big family.”

“Not besides the time I was getting recruited,” he said, asked if ever envisioned himself a Jayhawk.

Anderson, by the way, played despite suffering back spasms at practice on Friday.

“Coach (Bill Self) told us at halftime about it. He just said he’s killing us, and he wasn’t even supposed to play,” sophomore Marcus Morris said.

Tourney-bound

Oklahoma State surely clinched an NCAA Tournament bid by beating top-ranked KU. OSU is 20-8 overall, 8-6 in conference play.

“No question. We’re a tournament team now,” senior Obi Muonelo said after scoring 17 points off 6-of-13 shooting.

“It’s not a relief at all,” junior Anderson said after exploding for 27 points off 9-of-19 shooting, 4-for-6 from three. “With talent like this, we can play with anybody.”

Just like Paul

Self was asked if Anderson reminded him of any other player. Ex-Jayhawk Paul Pierce of the Boston Celtics was the one who came to mind.

Henry’s draft stock appears solid

The Daily Oklahoman surveyed many NBA Draft sites regarding the possible draft status of KU freshman Xavier Henry.

NBA-draft.com has Henry headed to Philadelphia with the No. 9 overall pick in the 2010 June draft. Others: nbadraft.net: No, 11, Minnesota; insidehoops.com, No. 12, Chicago; mynbadraft.com, No. 15, Minnesota; draftexpress.com, No. 15, Houston; nbadraftguru, No. 16, Chicago.

Henry entered KU as a probable one-and-done college player. He has said he’s only thinking about helping KU win a national championship right now.

Donation

Oklahoma State mega booster T. Boone Pickens presented a $100 million check to the university at halftime after the university president announced that the school has started a campaign designed to raise $1 billion.

Don’t give up

KU sliced a game-high deficit of 19 with 13 minutes left to six points with over a minute to play. KU trailed by 17 with just over seven minutes left.

“There’s always enough time,” Henry said. “We never panic. We keep playing. You never know what might happen.”

Stats, facts

Self is now 6-7 all-time against Oklahoma State, 5-4 as coach of the Jayhawks. He’s 1-3 as KU coach in Gallagher-Iba Arena. ... The loss halted KU’s 13-game win streak. ... KU leads the all-time series, 102-53. The teams have played to a 31-31 deadlock at Gallagher-Iba. ... KU is 13-6 versus OSU since the Big 12 began in 1996-97. ... Self is 196-42 at KU, just four wins from 200. ... Sherron Collins moved into seventh place on the all-time KU scoring list. His 22 points against OSU gave him 1,774 career points and moved him past Kirk Hinrich (1,753 from 2000-03), Dave Robisch (1,754 from 1969-71) and Pierce (1,768 from 1996-98). ... Collins tied a season-high with six turnovers. ... Cole Aldrich (11) scored in double figures for the third time in the last four games and 20th time this season. ... Henry (406 points) moved into fourth place on KU's all-time freshman scoring list. He moved past Darnell Valentine (392 in 1978) and Pierce (404 in 1996). The record is 496 by Danny Manning in 1985. ... Henry’s three free throws gave him 76 for the season. He moved into a tie for sixth place with Tyshawn Taylor (76 in 2009). ... Henry (17) scored in double figures for the sixth straight game. He’s averaging 17.8 ppg in that span. ... Brady Morningstar (two assists, no turnovers) has six games this season without a bobble. He has an impressive 64/19 assist/turnover ratio. ... Tyrel Reed tied a season-high three steals ... The Jayhawks trailed by as many as 19 points, largest deficit of the season. Previous high was 11 at Nebraska.

Comments

samfrmsyracuse 4 years, 1 month ago

that wasn't even a game !that was boring . that was like watching st marys of the blind vs the short bus express

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Michael Leiker 4 years, 1 month ago

I really liked what I saw out of this team on Saturday. Up here in Omaha we were only able to watch the 2nd half, had to endure Creighton v Bradley during the 1st half, so I obviously only saw the good things. But if you can get killed in a half, lose a game and still get things turned around in the same game I think it's a big plus. This team was playing like they expected to win with 45 seconds left in the game. Showed some great resilience.

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Ralster Jayhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

goldenhawk, Multiple attempts by KU to feed the High/Low--some were just bad passes, but other passes were pretty good hi-low lobs, but credit OSU defense for jumping and deflecting them up or off the backboard, etc. This was the FIRST time I saw a team with a dedicated plan to not even care if they knocked it out of bounds and it still be KU's ball--they were just that focused in breaking up the high-low play. And they succeeded.


Bill Self's gotta find the solution to this new chess move...since the whole country just saw how to knock KU out of its high-low offense...

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Ralster Jayhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

People may also forget (oh, but I remember the comments...) that Russell Robinson his last 2yrs (and Chalmers) still got "burned" for a 3pt shot with some regularity. It wasnt that they were slow getting thru screens as much as '10, but usually were sagging-in to help try to strip/steal from opposing guards driving the lane. I remember many, many made3s over the outstretched hands of RussRob and Chalmers (they had simply cheated-off too far...). Their greatness was in closing speed, often making a perimeter guy look open, then closing the passing lane with great speed, & going the other way with a steal and transition highlight. This is how almost all of 2010 KUs major-minute guards are missing: closing speed. TT has speed, but maybe not this knack of "setting up" the steal that RR and Chalmers had. Maybe he will figure it out, along with EJ.

Of course what I miss greatly about RussRob is the ability to make players disappear, like Lawson of UNC, and Derrick Rose the whole 1st half in the Champ game. I am waiting to see who can fill his shoes in this respect (lock-down D).

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Ralster Jayhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

Oddly enough, Brady looked OK at the wing last year, because most wings maybe arent as quick as most 1 and 2guards, so Brady got up under them so they couldnt shoot, and they werent really fast enough to get around Brady. My postulate is that Brady isnt a different player this year than last year, but he is now facing quicker 2guards rather then 3 guards. If anything we could count on, it would be Brady's consistent performances--so maybe he hasnt deteriorated (on ball defensive ability rarely is inconsistent). The only variable is the opponent, and my point is the "type" of opponent Brady is seeing this year: smaller, quicker guards.

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Ralster Jayhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

kubirdfan75, Do you really see Reed penetrating to the rim like Sherron, Tyshawn, and Xavier (and EJ, CJ, Releford, Little)? Have you seen evidence of that ability? Other than the odd times Brady and Reed have penetrated on a busted D, I havent seen that. Yes they feed the post, and supposedly can hit 3s, but that is just a 2dimensional player. Are we forgetting that Self wants his combo guards to do 'everything' well. There is no comparison between Sherron-types and Reed/Brady types. Reed and Brady can occasionally score double figs in a spot-up shooting guard role, while Sherron can pull double figures out of his a$$ almost every game (he can c-r-e-a-t-e). I am talking about Sherron's KU career, not the last few subpar outings, although he pulled 22pts out of a disastrous OSU outing (if he was "on", he could have gone for 30+)--get my point? While I like the energy of Reed, I am not disillusioned to think he could start at the Univ. of Kansas. That would be Ryan Robertson in the Roy era (slow). This is SelfBall--night-and-day difference between the skillsets of Sherron vs. Reed. Hate to sound starkly ugly about it, but if Reed or Brady starts, we are instantly outclassed by alot of teams.

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newyorkjayhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

After looking at the stats, I really like what ralster has to say about OSU's 60% FG percentage. Listen, if it takes a team nailing over 50% from 3, and over 60% overall to beat Kansas by a mere 8 points, I say "OSU, you deserved the win, congrats on possibly clinching an at large bid to the tourney, and have a nice day". OSU had way too much to play for and, as Coach Ford said about his team, 7 of his players had the game of their lives. This doesn't happen often, this isn't a likely scenario. Did Kansas play well? absolutely not... their free throw shooting was bad, they had more TO's than assists, they had AWFUL rotation on defense, and they flat out failed to come out ready to play. But the way they fought back with 13 minutes to play was unbelievable. I'm very proud of those final 13 minutes, I think Tyshawn got fouled on his drive to the basket with 41 seconds left that could've cut the lead to 4 had he made it and hit the free throw, that Page kid must be on steroids to hit 3 pointers from the hash mark, being as short as he is, and remember this...

in late February, 2008, Kansas visited Okla St as a top 5 team and lost 61-60 (playing a TERRIBLE game... 20 TO's to 7 assists, 2/11 on 3's, Chalmers/Kaun/Arther each had at least 4 fouls, and they allowed Byron Eaton to get to the line 18 times)... it was the last game they lost that season... they won out the last 13 games of the year, including the conference and ncaa tournaments... Thank you, Cowboys for knocking some sense and urgency into our players... we'll take your lesson to heart and bring the Big 12 its 2nd championship in 3 years. RCJHGKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Goldenhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

What happened to the high low game? The power game disappeared.

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BrockIII 4 years, 1 month ago

I root for Henry, but he is going to have to get used to sitting on the bench for years when he leaves after this year. He has a lot to learn.

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Ralster Jayhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

Hey, Tyshawn really tried, and so did Sherron and X--clearly they were told to penetrate. At least recognize the effort late. We lost the game for many reasons. No opponent of KU has shot over 60% since 1990! What an aberration. I watched this game again today to analyze, and the number of empty KU possessions turning into transition 2s or 3s for OSU was mindboggling, since several times that was a 4 or 5pt swing.


Regarding Brady starting next year...I dont think so, nice kid, gotta root for Reed and Morn'Star, but they arent starters. Nice point about Brady getting beat defensively over and over...and now he cant shoot...They cant do anything against our current opponents--conversely, they would have shined at WSU or another midmajor. It is EJ + TT time next season.

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yates33333 4 years, 1 month ago

Any professional BB team that drafts Henry at this point in his career will be making a big mistake. He is great against mediocre competition which doesn't exist in the NBA. He seems to disappear against top flight players.

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Jeffery Barrett 4 years, 1 month ago

kubirdfan75 et al, first off, Brady & Tyrel won't start most games next year. Don't get me wrong, I like Brady & Tyrel. Obviously they are very good players or they would not be on the court with the Jayhawk on it. That being said, to win a national championship, this team needs Tyshawn to step up his all around game. I mean 3 points out of the Kansas Kids v. OSU? Come on, they at least need SOME offensive output from those positions and the OSU game partly proved it. Sherron can't win games by himself and, I agree with most everyone else that X's game is not nearly where it needs to be.......sooooo, they have to have clutch shots by someone else. To me, that is not Brady & Tyrel. Again, to win a national championship, I envision a repeat of the 2008 tournament only with Tyshawn playing the part of Mario this time.

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Turk 4 years, 1 month ago

X Henry is not ready for the NBA. Talk about inconsistent. His defense is horrible. Not aggressive enough. Very streaky shooter. What is up with Aldrich? Only played 8 minutes in the 2nd half. I have been a Jayhawk fan for 65 years. I expect more out of these talented players.

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Paul Meyer 4 years, 1 month ago

Isn't the NBA going on strike next year?

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kubirdfan75 4 years, 1 month ago

ops forgot one Reed would start

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kubirdfan75 4 years, 1 month ago

He's not ready and i wouldn't be surprised if Cole stays for his last year just to see what if. Next years starting Five Cole Marcus Xfactor Mornigstar. Then you got Bill feeding in off the bench Whitley Reed MK Morris Henrys bro who knows what can happen

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milehighhawk 4 years, 1 month ago

He's not NBA-ready, but the NBA doesn't care about that in the draft - It's all about POTENTIAL.

I don't think it makes much sense, and I completely agree with everyone else that another year would do him well (see Julian Wright as an example) - BUT I still expect him to declare after this year because chances are he'll be a lottery pick.

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jbrownjib 4 years, 1 month ago

Henry will eventually be a great pro, however his outside shot would have helped open up the middle vs. OSU. Henry looked lost yesterday. I would like to see Henry consistantly pick up his game vs. B12 talent. Anderson is a great player for OSU and he totally schooled Henry. Henry's time will come with experience but he is not NBA ready.

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KU08 4 years, 1 month ago

Self needs to play Tyrel Reed more in games like this. He always seems fired up and provides a spark on both ends of the court. That shot over Page fouling him was awesome! Besides a couple threes when the game was all-but-over, that is the only KU highlight I remember.

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WilburNether 4 years, 1 month ago

Only the sheer stupidity of NBA general managers could put Henry in the NBA next year.

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Reality_Check 4 years, 1 month ago

T. Boone Pickens presented a $100 million check to the university at halftime

"You BETTER win, boys, or this check is going back in my pocket," Pickens told OSU players at halftime in the locker room.

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Steve Brown 4 years, 1 month ago

just what we needed the purple cats to have hope...we should have burst it in stillwater.

Frank has them more afraid of him than the AFH crowd - they will bring his intensity and we will counter with.......spirit of Phog.

Just like old times, KState game for the outright conf. title- love the challenge and the opportunity. Rise up.

RCJHKU

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doolindalton 4 years, 1 month ago

If Henry is a potential first round pick, I am going to declare myself eligible at age 59. I am quite certain I can take as many bad shots as he can, play better defense, shoot a higher percentage of free throws and block out the player I was guarding.

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Edward Daub 4 years, 1 month ago

If Henry is predicted mid first round, James Anderson is probably a potential first rounder too! Keiton Page , a second rounder?

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