Monday, March 23, 2009

Kansas basketball notebook

Kansas guard Sherron Collins floats a shot over the Dayton defense during the first half Sunday March 22, 2009 at the Metrodome in Minneapolis.

Kansas guard Sherron Collins floats a shot over the Dayton defense during the first half Sunday March 22, 2009 at the Metrodome in Minneapolis.


Aldrich shines against Dayton; KU advances to Sweet 16

Cole Aldrich had 13 points, 20 rebounds and 10 blocked shots during today's game against Dayton. It's the first triple-double in Kansas history.


2009 Bracket Challenge

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2009 KU-UD

Appleton perseveres

Kansas University’s 60-43 victory over Dayton put a smile on the face of junior guard Tyrone Appleton, who has been mourning the loss of his buddy Dennis Williams, who was murdered late last week in Gary, Ind.

“It’s been tough, real tough,” Appleton said after scoring one point versus the Flyers.

“He’s one of my closest friends. I talked to him an hour before he died. He always told me to give my best no matter how much time I get, whether it’s 30 minutes or 30 seconds. I’ll never forget the things he told me. I’ll keep him in my head as long as I live. He’ll always be in my mind.”

Appleton, who played six minutes in Friday’s victory over North Dakota State, flew back to Indiana following the game.

He attended his buddy’s funeral Saturday afternoon and was back in Minnesota by 8:30 Saturday night.

“It was tough going back home, flying back, waking up today to play the game,” Appleton said. “I’m just so happy we won. Sherron (Collins) and Cole (Aldrich) were great, and now we move to the Sweet 16. I’m looking forward to going to Indianapolis.”

On to Indy

KU advances to the Sweet 16 in Indianapolis, where the Jayhawks will take on Michigan State at 8:45 p.m. Friday.

The Spartans beat KU, 75-62, on Jan. 10 in East Lansing, Mich., in KU’s final game of an 11-4 nonconference season.

“I think everybody in the locker room wants to play Michigan State because we feel like we have something to prove,” KU freshman guard Tyshawn Taylor said. “They beat us pretty bad the first time, and we are a totally different team. We will be hungrier this time around.”

“We are definitely looking for a little redemption,” freshman forward Markieff Morris said. “They are a team like Dayton, but they shoot the ball better.”

Noted Mario Little: “The last time we played them we came out OK in the first couple possessions, then let it slip away. We need to make sure we stay focused on the defensive end and execute.”

Michigan State senior Travis Walton said the first matchup has nothing to do with this one.

“We are different now. They are, too,” he said. “They are playing great basketball. They always find a way to get things done and to get a win. Both teams will play hard just like the first game. It should be a great game.”

Tough D

KU’s Brady Morningstar took his turn guarding Dayton’s Chris Wright, who missed 12 of 16 shots and scored 10 points with nine boards in 28 minutes.

“You can close out on shooters long, and you feel like if they drive, Cole will block the ball or contest the shot. He helps a lot. He’s so dominant in the paint,” Morningstar said.

Dayton hit just 16 of 72 shots for miserable 22.2 percent. The Flyers made four of 19 threes.

“I guess their flight team, or whatever they call it, wasn’t flying,” KU’s Collins quipped, referring to the athletic Flyers faring so poorly offensively.

Flyers’ guard Mickey Perry shook his head when asked about the offensive woes.

“It was their defense to a certain extent,” Perry said. “They did defend well, and I thought we defended them well, too. Our shot selection was so poor that it enabled us to not be in proper defensive position to get back and stop easy breaks.”

KU coach Bill Self’s take? “Our defense was pretty good but we also were fortunate because they missed some shots,” Self said.

In good shape

Aldrich was asked in the interview room about his physical conditioning now compared to high school.

“Junior year of high school, the most I weighed was 263,” Aldrich said. “I came in as a freshman in the beginning of the summer at 254, 255ish and had a 14.9 percent body fat, and now I am 235, 240 with a 6.5 percent body fat.”

“Anything else you want to tell them?” KU coach Self said, drawing laughter from all involved.

Poor charity work

KU won going away despite hitting just 11 of 22 free throws.

“It could have opened up the game more,” Morningstar said of KU hitting freebies. “That’s how it goes sometimes.”

Little effective

Little scored five straight points in the first half. He hit a deep two and a three that gave the Jayhawks a 19-11 advantage at 9:11.

“Coach said to be aggressive and just play. I think I did that today,” said Little, who scored seven points and had six boards in 16 minutes.

“This team ... our level of confidence has grown each game,” Little added. “For us, the first one (Friday against North Dakota State) was the tough one. We were more confident after that against an athletic team like Dayton.”

How sweet it is

The Jayhawks were giddy after reaching the Sweet 16 despite losing five starters from last year’s national-championship team.

“Coach was basically celebrating, said he was proud,” Little said. “He also is making sure we stay focused.”

“It feels great knowing nobody expected us to get this far,” Marcus Morris said. “It’s a great accomplishment for us.”

Stats, facts

KU advanced to the Sweet 16 for the third straight year and the seventh time in the last nine seasons. ... KU has won eight straight NCAA Tournament games and 11 of its last 12 in the last three years. ... KU is 8-3 all-time as a No. 3 seed. ... Collins (25) and Aldrich (13) combined for 38 of KU’s 60 points. The two have scored 93 of KU’s 144 points in the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament. ... Aldrich scored KU’s first six points before Collins scored the Jayhawks' next eight and Little scored the following five. Collins then scored the next six points for KU. The three combined for 28 of KU's 29 first half points as Taylor made a free throw.


Lance Hobson 11 years, 10 months ago

It's a great time to be a KU basketball fan. Self has our program on a roll. Let's hope the rest of the team steps up against Michigan State and we keep this going! Rock Chalk!

Lin Rahardja 11 years, 10 months ago

Hope the rest of the team will do better than 6 of 22 against MSU. Go Hawks!

Eurekahwk 11 years, 10 months ago

“Anything else you want to tell them?” is not what drew the laughter. The funny of the press conference was Bill Self asking Cole if he wanted to tell the size of his biceps. That is too good not to be quoted in this article.

rockemchalkemrobots 11 years, 10 months ago

drgnslayr- your expectations are not reflected in your bracket predictions.

jayhawkinATL 11 years, 10 months ago

Yes, the Sweet 16 during a year in which we were supposed to be rebuilding. Awesome!!!

Joshua Hann 11 years, 10 months ago

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InfiniteJ 11 years, 10 months ago

"Kansas would need both Sherron Collins and Cole Aldrich to go pro, or somebody to give up their scholarship, to enable Lance to have one."

I'd rather have Collins and/or Aldrich another year than have Stephenson for one year, but I guess it's nice to know that if one or both of KU's stars bolts early for the NBA, that a talent of Stephenson's caliber might be there to replace some of thier production.

John Hayden 11 years, 10 months ago

Has anyone notice or is it just me that the Big 12 teams are getting no respect. Its been from the beginning of the season, and now in the tourney that the Big East gets all the attention. OSU had Pitt where they wanted them and did any fouls get called on Pitt, I don't think so. Please pull for Arizona, Xavier, OU, Purdue and Duke this week. Kansas looks great and ready for a run to the championship. Take out the Spartans.

John Mueller 11 years, 10 months ago

“It feels great knowing nobody expected us to get this far,” Marcus Morris said. “It’s a great accomplishment for us.”

somebody please explain the seeding process to Mr. Morris. you are exactly where they thought you'd be dude. If you do something this weekend, you're officially exceeding expectations.

Having said that, there were times earlier this year that I have to admit..... I wasn't sure if we'd make the tourney. Unbelievable job by the whole team, coaching staff, etc.

don't know where the free throw stats ended up, but you don't win many games shooting 34% from the free throw line. That will require significant improvement on Friday night.

Go Hawks!

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

Stephenson has a terrific body and his records in high school prove he can play and sustain. He looks like the guard equivalent of Lebron in terms of court presence and maturity for age.

But can he be coached without a player of Sherron's stature to reign him into the team should Sherron leave?

Many persons still do not understand that it is Sherron, not just Bill Self, who has gotten all these newcomers this year to listen to Self and his staff and accept their roles. Yes, Self has won a ring. Yes, Manning was a great one with a ring, a numero uno draft pick, and a long professional career. Yes, Dooley and Townsend know more basketball in one small neural net than a lot of guys know in their whole brain cases. But young men from hard places far from home need a player with a forceful personality who has been there to really convince them that trying to master the roles the coaches create for them is the path to success personal and team.

Sherron has a ring. Sherron is a stud. Sherron is good. Sherron has been where they have been. Sherron will piss off his territory and walk the talk.

Tyshawn Taylor, as talented as he is, would not have been able to handle the job this year without Sherron telling him he could do it and making sure that he did it, and covering up his mistakes when he couldn't get it done.

Same with Mario Little. Mario Little is an enormously dominant personality in his own right. Without meaning to, he tips the court when he walks on. Players gravitate to him. He is a stud. It has taken someone with the huge personality Sherron has to subordinate that in Little. Little is obviously a great team player. He is obviously willing to do whatever he can for the team to win and what he has done this year, in the background, has been instrumental in making this team as good as it has become.

Little could have turned into a cry baby and a sulker. But by not doing so, he is proving to all these young guys who are drawn to the massiveness of his personality, to say if Mario, who is so freaking good, can channel himself to the team, despite raw breaks he has been dealt, then so can I, no matter where I stand in the pecking order. All the guys on this team know Mario Little is a heck of a basketball player and a lion. But now they know that he is a team player, too.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

The key to building great teams is getting the players with the dominant personalities to become great team players. If a coach achieves that, all the players with the less dominant personalities fall in with these alpha males and the team soon becomes greater than the sum of its parts.

Around mid season, I wrote that there was conflict in the pecking order that emerged as Mario Little was starting to play. It was already forming before Little started playing, when Cole was emerging as a major talent. Sherron was struggling a little. Cole was smoking. But the team was young and looking for a silver bullet to get it to the next level. Enter Mario. He seemed the silver bullet (though we all should have known that there are no silver bullets, just hard work, just improvement by inches, not by yards, as Danny says).

All three of these guys were/are big personalities. But this team had to have one leader. And it had to be Sherron, because he had arrived, had the seasoning, and played the quarterback position of basketball--PG.

Great post men are always dominants on a team, because they just are big persons who do big things. Even the bigs with small personalities greatly influence a team, whether they mean to or not. So Cole was coming on strong without really intending to challenge Sherron.

Into this potential division in leadership, came Little.

Little had the respect of the Morris twins because he was new, but mature, and not under Sherron's wing, as Tyshawn was, and the respect of the guys on the bench, because his injury had made him one of them for awhile. (Note: the Morris twins have big personalities, too, and this will emerge in coming seasons, but there were just too many big personalities ahead of them this year with more experience).

Little's arrival had the curious effect of bringing the delicate imbalance that was emerging between Sherron and Cole, to the surface. For a few games there, the team that needed three scorers, had three heads instead. Little was trying to be an impact player at Self's insistence--to give the team a badly needed dose of experience and muscle and athleticism. But Self force Little to do this while playing out of position at the four and after a quick start his flaws in his game began to surface in other teams' scouting reports and he experienced significant difficulty with fouling and learning the offense from two positions.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

It was at this moment that Little could have blown this team apart. He gave up a year of eligibility for the good of the team--a huge sacrifice at this stage of a players career. He went out and did exactly what the coach asked and the coach had misjudged what he could and could not do and so he was making mistakes. The team chemistry, which he had and his coaches had meant to help by injecting some toughness and maturity into, got disrupted, because it altered the emerging delicate balance between Sherron and Cole.

Instead, Little stayed a team man.

And near the same time, Cole got his nose broken and had several sub-par games because of a mask that limited his vision, and because the experience of physical violence left him with some fear to overcome.

During this vacuum, Sherron came fully to the for and carried the team on his back even more than early in the season in many ways. Brady also began to score more and be asked to do more things. Tyrel finally found the spacing he needed to maintain to be a credible defender and allow his three gun into the game for 20 justifiable minutes a game.

And during this time the inches of learning Marcus Morris had been doing for Danny Manning at practice, plus the experience of recurring humiliations by seasoned opponents, finally began to accrue into something resembling a Divison One garbage man--a guy who could help a post man like Cole be better--a guy who did not just hurt you all the time with mistakes, even when he did not exactly show up evenly all the time.

And then Mario Little began to experience about the greatest insult of all: after making tremendous personal sacrifices and doing everything the coaches asked of him, he began to see his minutes dwindle, despite the fact that he is an enormously talented player in his own right. This moment was the second time Little could have blown the team apart, by turning into a cry baby. But he didn't. He seemed to become even more of a team player, even more of an inspiration on some level. He became the man with all the breaks going against him still doing his duty and so setting an example that all the rest of the team, from the walk-ons, to the starters, had to respect and live up to.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

Doing one's duty is so much harder than doing what one is good at. Ask Sherron how much easier last year was than this. Sherron is not just being asked to be an offensive fire plug, he is being asked to do his duty even when he is off. Last year when he was off, the load shifted to someone else. This year, when Sherron is off, Self looks at him with those steely slits he calls eyes and says, "find a way, Sherron, its on you. Don't talk to me about your arm hurting, or your charley horse, or you just not having it mentally tonight. Its your duty to bring it every night even when you can't bring it. This is what being a man is." Duty is an enormous burden. Great teams have many players, who can do their duties no matter what. Lesser teams have talent.

Mario Little is a stud in my book--the biggest kind of a stud there truly is. He's the guy who when everything seems to be going against him, no matter how well intended the choices are that he makes, and no matter how hard he tries, things don't go right, yet he keeps bringing it every day and saying, someday, sooner or later, my luck has got to change. He does his duty to the team. This is so compelling to persons around him it is hard to put into words. This is a guy who could kick the asses of most of the players on this team in a game of one on one and he is gutting it out like Jonah swallowed by some impossibly unfair whale and he is pushing on saying sooner or later I'm going to beat this thing and I'm going to beat this thing the right way, the team way, not the wrong way. It is a tremendous amount of courage to show in such difficult circumstances. He has shown it and it has made all the difference in the world for this team. Self has to know this.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

Those sitting around waiting to blame the next loss on Sherron's shortcomings, like Theutus, or handwringing about Cole's foot, as I have, or extolling Sherron's greatness, or Cole's emergent fierceness, or marveling at Brady's defense and shooting, or Marcus and Tyrel's progress, or Tyshawn's heavy freshman burden, have been overlooking the paramount factor in this team's success. A bunch of players came together, players without a lot of experience, and they said this team matters. This is our team, not last year's team. It can be way better than anyone understands. It perhaps can even be better than we understand. We believe even when no one else does. We believe when everyone else doubts. And they took some terrible beatings that would have made lesser players quit. And they kept doing there duties no matter what. Up and down the bench there just is enormous character apparent on this team. Kleinmann, the walk on, is clearly held in enormous respect by his coach and his teammates for playing for free, and working all night at architecture, just so he can help these talented bigs of ours get better by having to shoot over a 6'11" big who will never get to play real minutes. Most of them have this sense of duty, and they seem to have infected those that did not have it.

And one cannot say that this sense of duty only exists because they are winning, because they have taken enormous losses and held steadfast.

The question about Lance Stephenson is: does he have this kind of character? Can he do his duty no matter what?

If he can, KU maybe be unbeatable next year.

If he cannot, kindly pass us by, Lance.

As General George Patton might have said, "I don't want any damn cowards afraid to do their duties stinking up this locker room full of brave men."

I will bank all of next season on Mario Little right now. Or Sherron. Or Cole. Or any of the guys on this team that come back.

I don't care if they lose the next game, or go all the way.

They've got the right stuff.

They do their duties to this team.

Even the coaches have to be inspired right now.

Even the coaches have to be saying among themselves, "We've got to find a way for these guys to win another game. We'll be letting them down if we don't."

This is basketball at its best.

Seth Peattie 11 years, 10 months ago

From ESPN: "Who's not? Brady Morningstar didn't give KU much alongside Sherron Collins' 25 points on Sunday. Morningstar whiffed on all four 3s, didn't score and had three turnovers in 32 minutes against the Flyers."

We absolutely have to get some offense from the rest of the starters to beat MSU. Ouitside of Cole/Collins our starters combined for 3 points yesterday??? STEP-UP, HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

kranny 11 years, 10 months ago

Jaybate, I understand your concerns but I feel that if Coach Self thinks this young man can come to Kansas to play ball then I trust in coach to know what he's doing. I don't think you necessarily need an experienced floor leader to get a team or a player to buy in. If Lance doesn't like what he sees then he can go to Gonzaga (see Micah Downs). But I think Self will make him a better player. There is going to be a lot of talent on the KU team next year. If Sherron and Cole come back, it will be difficult not to make the final 4.

kupark 11 years, 10 months ago

The lull before the storm has ended and the storm is here. Jaybate is back at it with his long posts. I stopped reading after the first one.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago


Memo to ESPN:

If you have an ounce of brains, which you likely have not, remove Brady Morningstar from your list of who is not hot.

Even the best three point shooters miss 55% of their attempts.

Most three point shooters blow hot and cold.

Most three point shooters have games where they miss most, or all the treys they take, and then have games where they make all, or most of the treys they take.

Brady Morningstar has averaged between 43% and 45% all season long.

If his percentage falls below 40%, even then don't put him on your list of who is not hot.

Presently, Sherron, Tyshawn and Tyrel are all hanging at 37-40%.

Get some right brain function, will ya, ESPN?

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

kupark is posting again.

Ah, the norm before the dull is over. He's back with those tedious, three-sentence posts so awkwardly phrased again. I could not stop reading his post for the same reason persons cannot help but look at train wrecks. Morbid curiosity compels one to see how he will butcher the language next. ;-)

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago


You're absolutely right about Self having to go after the guy, if he might come.

He's a huge talent and as Self has said of Sherron, he seems to have the kind of stubborness that Self likes in his impact players.

I was just pointing out he would be very fortunate to be come to a team with this much character.

goshenjhawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Jaybate, I personally enjoyed that post as much as any you have written for quite some time. I never can understand why kupark and his like can't simply skip your posts and be quiet about it. Keep up the good work!

kranny, I don't think the point of jaybate's comments was so much to doubt Lance's character as to state the simple fact that he must comply with the team mentality to fit in with a Bill Self team...

jayhwkr77 11 years, 10 months ago

It'd be great to get a win Friday night but I just don't think it's going to happen unless Morningstar starts knocking down open threes. I don't want to be hard on him, because he has definitely exceeded my expectations this year, but we need his outide shooting bad to open up the middle of the floor. Also I would like to see Marcus getting more minutes, he is really playing well lately.

Jaybate- I'm new commenting on here. It seems every column I ever read, you write a novel. Do you do anything but comment on kusports all day long?

soapboxstew 11 years, 10 months ago

You guys have to get over this scholarship thing. That guy says at the end of his article "these things have a way of working themselves out". We will have guys go to the NBA, or we will have transfers, or red-shirts (if that counts), or guys will pay their own way (see Morningstar).
I know that Brady (or Reed or whoever) should not have to give up their scholarship given their importance to the team. But I'll bet they are willing to become the greatest "walk-ons" at a University that already has claim to having the greatest "walk-on" of all time (Moody). That speaks volumes to character at Kansas, when starters are willing to give up their scholly and their starting spot for the greater good of the team.

Let me make this perfectly clear: WE WANT COLE AND SHERRON AND LANCE on our team next year. That would give us arguably the best PG, C, and Wing in the country. I mean, look at this line-up: PG- Sherron Collins SG- TT SF- Lance Stevenson PF- Mc Morris C- Cole Bench (Guards): EJ, Reed, Morningstar, Releford, Little, Appleton (Bigs): Mk Morris, Robinson, Whity, Little, QT

That might be one of the best ever, and certainly THE best next year.

InfiniteJ 11 years, 10 months ago

jaybate, you're very knowledgeable and for the most part I dig your opinions, but you're longwinded like a mofo.

InfiniteJ 11 years, 10 months ago


On paper that starting line-up and roster looks pretty loaded, but that doesn't always translate onto the court, let's hope that next year's newcomers mesh with the rest of the team just as much as this year's newcomers did.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 10 months ago


Nice line up HOWEVER, poster 100 and myself respectfully disagree. Provided Cole comes back, I think you will see the twin towers on the court. Another seven footer like Withey with moves, an array of shots and can run like crazy will provide match-up problems for virtually every team in Div 1 going against KU!!

Also, take away the double teams on Condor and, LOOK OUT, you think he looks good now!!!?? Wait till they all have to play him straight up because of Jeff W.

100...I believe..I BELIEVE!!!!!!!

Lance Hobson 11 years, 10 months ago

What did the zagsblog story say? I can't open it.

Blake Brown 11 years, 10 months ago

Hey everyone, think back to the beginning of the season and what your expectations were for this team and how far or short they would go. In all fairness, I did not give them a chance of winning the conference and hoped they would at least qualify for the tournament. We have seen some stinkers like the losses to UMass, Arizona, Syracuse, Michigan State, Texas Tech, Baylor and even the win over Dayton. We saw a couple of these late last year from a team most never expected to play that lousy at that time. And now, we see a team that can go even deeper in the tournament. Who would have thunk it?

At this point, I do not know how we will play against Michigan State, but I do know, we have the potential to win it and on the other hand to bomb out. I choose the win route. At the same time, I am always ecstatic to be a Hawk fan and know year in and year out, we will put a highly competitive team on the floor and do well. I am more than satisfied and still want more. It`s great to be a Jayhawk.

Rock Chalk!!

soapboxstew 11 years, 10 months ago

Jaybate- You are right, 100%, that if we get Lance, we need Sherron to stay.
With Sherron as the leader, Lance as the Talent, and Cole as the 250lb side of beef, we will be- dare I say- Unbeatable.

Without Sherron, I think that the team chemistry is all out of whack.

MY TAKE ON: -Sherron on the NBA: A second rounder at best this year (which shows the ineptness of NBA GM's). I think that he will throw his hat into the ring, check his stock, find out the aforementioned, and be told to work on his control and turnovers.
Which is perfect, because IF we land Stevenson, Sherron doesn't have to worry about single handedly carrying the scoring load, and can concentrate on control and distribution. He proved that he can score with the best of them this year, and he will prove that he can lead and control and distribute with the best of them next season. His draft position will be higher next year IMO. He will also have- god willing- two rings when he leaves. If he graduates and plays 4 years, he will have a "Scholarship for Life" in L-town. He'll never buy a drink again, and he'll never have a hard time finding a job if basketball doesn't work out in the long run. It would behoove him to stay...

Cole on the NBA: Likely a lotto pick this year. But while he would get on a team, he is not NBA ready as a big. He would get eaten up by NBA bigs right now (see his performance against Arizona's Hill this season). He needs one more year to fine tune his skills and strength. He could work his way up to a top 5 pick with a year of improvement and publicity as the "best big in the country". For Cole, it is not so much that he will greatly improve his draft stock by staying another year, rather that he will improve his longevity in the NBA. It's like Jay Bilas says, "In the NBA, it's not about your 1st contract, it's about you 3rd."

BTW- If Lance comes to KU, we continue our "New York" tradition that was started with Robinson. We do that for every kid from New York that comes to KU from here on out. "#1, Lance Stevenson from New York" "NEW YORK"

Lance Hobson 11 years, 10 months ago

What's up with so many of our players having friends or relatives gunned down lately? If this keeps up there will be word of a "Kansas curse."

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago


Ain't it the truth! :-)

But I do write some short ones, too.

Like this one!

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago


If weren't busy all day long, I would be writing novels on here! :-)

As I repeatedly tell folks.

I just write fast.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago


You are absolutely right. Maybe their page down keys don't work.

Rick Arnoldy 11 years, 10 months ago

“Anything else you want to tell them?” KU coach Self said, drawing laughter from all involved.

I swear I saw this quote in response to Collins talking about his body fat rather than Aldrich.

David Black 11 years, 10 months ago

I am sure the question has been asked, but Jaybate, do you have a career? I love reading the post,but my word,they are long. My picks, Kansas,Memphis,Pitt and Oklahoma I think.

Jfanallways 11 years, 10 months ago

salivating over next years line up but instead of morris at the 4 i like withey collins/stephenson/taylor/withey/aldrich and a whole other starting 5 on the bench little the morris twins reed morningstar and then who knows about jhonson and robinson who self said are better athletes than anyone currently on the team and behind them appleton and quintrell talk about depth wow!

Joseph Kuebel 11 years, 10 months ago

I cannot wait to watch Cole and Withey go to town next year. Oakville- I see your take on the matchup difficulties has changed! And I will be there at the wheel for beers if we get Wall...And if we do get Wall then Chalk up another!

Joseph Kuebel 11 years, 10 months ago

Can't wait til KU gets in that MSUck ARSE! They are gonna tear up and destroy the booty of the Michigan State's Lucas...It's PAYBACK time, and unlike our loss in Spartaland, our Hawks are not Baby's anymore. They're all grown up, and that growing is going to tear open the Spartan.

goodriddanceroyboy 11 years, 10 months ago

I like the starting line-up of aldrich, withey, stephenson, collins and ej. i dont know about ej defensively, so if tt is better defensively you could get a good lead and then play tt more. if we get stephenson, wall is definitly out of the question. i think morningstar gives up his scholly and thomas transfers. im almost positive that collins and aldrich will stay. with stephenson to go along with withey, johnson and robinson we must have one of the top 3 classes next year, with memphis with the number 1 class if they get wall. i think wall goes to ncstate if evans stays at memphis, but im sure evans is leaving.

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