Thursday, February 4, 2010

Gary Bedore’s Kansas basketball notebook

Kansas guard Sherron Collins defends Colorado guard Dwight Thorne II during the first half Wednesday, Feb. 3, 2010 at the Coors Event Center in Boulder.

Kansas guard Sherron Collins defends Colorado guard Dwight Thorne II during the first half Wednesday, Feb. 3, 2010 at the Coors Event Center in Boulder.


Reader poll

Who was KU's best player against Colorado?

  • Cole Aldrich 65% 1499 votes
  • Brady Morningstar 9% 230 votes
  • Marcus Morris 23% 543 votes
  • Other 1% 31 votes

2303 total votes.

Audio clips

2010 Kansas at Colorado

GameDay Cram Session: Colorado online editor Jesse Newell and Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan take a look at what to expect from the Kansas basketball team's matchup against Colorado.

Reader poll

Which ESPN color announcer do you like better?

  • Bob Knight 66% 114 votes
  • Bill Raftery 25% 43 votes
  • Undecided 8% 14 votes

171 total votes.

Altitude matters

Cole Aldrich huffed and puffed his way to 16 points and 14 rebounds in 35 minutes Wednesday night.

The 6-foot-11 junior admits he was one tired Jayhawk competing in the high altitude of Boulder.

“It’s tough,” Aldrich said. “You come up here. Coach (Bill Self) always jokes, ‘Once you guys are indoors, the altitude doesn’t matter.’ It’s his little joke. The freshmen believed it. All the veterans just laugh at him. It’s a little different up here. It’s always a tough place to play, but a fun place to win.”

KU appeared to have about 2,000 fans of the announced crowd of 11,027.

“We had our fans, but they had theirs, too. They were loud. The fans were great,” Aldrich said.

He said that no matter how much the Jayhawks practice against the Princeton-style offense of Colorado, it remains tough to guard.

“They have five guys that can shoot,” Aldrich said. “They bring our bigs away from the hoop, and then they can drive. It also creates lanes. It was tough to guard them again. It’s always tough here for some reason.”

Self impressed

Self applauded the play of the Buffs.

“As I told the players, ‘When you talk to the team, when you talk to the media or whoever, you have to respect their effort,’’’ Self said. “They do respect Colorado’s effort.”

Self thought it was neat the Buffs stayed around after a disappointing loss to thank the CU students for their support.

“After the game, the players went over and thanked the fans. We have never had it like this here before,” he added of a hostile environment in which Buffs fans actually were a major factor. “It’s good for our league for all of our teams to get better. I am not going to say we played poorly because it doesn’t give them the credit they deserve.”


Self was asked if he was more excited or relieved.

“Probably more relieved,” he said. “We didn’t play our best by any stretch. Not that Colorado didn’t play great. I thought they were the better team. We were the best team by far the first 10 minutes. I thought without question they (were) the next 30. Then we were pretty good in overtime.

“Relphorde had a terrific game,” he added of Marcus Relphorde, who had 18 points and 11 boards. “He was probably the hardest for us to guard tonight.”

Stats, facts

KU is 21-1, the same record it had during the 2007-08 NCAA title season. ... KU is 7-0 in the league for the second straight year. ... KU has won 14 straight games versus CU. ... KU leads the all-time series, 118-39, including a 38-26 KU advantage in Boulder and 23-7 in Coors Events Center. KU is 27-1 versus CU since the start of the Big 12 in 1996-97. ... KU is 8-1 away from Allen this season. ... KU played its first overtime game against the Buffaloes since March 2, 1964, a KU 73-71 victory. It was also KU’s first overtime game in Boulder since losing 50-48 on Feb. 6, 1950. ... The Jayhawks played their first back-to-back overtime games since the 2004-05 season. ... KU held Colorado to 37.5 percent shooting and has held 17 of 22 opponents to under 40 percent shooting this season. ... KU shot a season-low 47.4 percent from the free-throw line. ... Aldrich pulled down 14 rebounds to pass Mark Randall (1987, 89-91) for the 13th-most career rebounds in KU history with 734. He has nine or more rebounds in 11 of his last 13 games. Aldrich also moved up to the No. 6 spot for single-season blocked shots, recording five blocks to give him 80. He passed Eric Chenowith (1999). He has three-plus blocks in 20 games in 2009-10. ... Sherron Collins scored in double figures for the eighth time in the last 11 games with 16 points. Fourteen of his points came after halftime. He also had four assists and has three-plus assists 18 times this season. ... Xavier Henry had one steal and moved up one spot on the KU freshmen steals list. He is tied for the No. 6 spot with Jeff Boschee (1999) with 40 steals. ... Tyrel Reed tied a season high with three rebounds.

Mad AD

Colorado AD Mike Bohn spoke to Big 12 officials observer Tom Robinson angrily during a timeout in the first half near the press section. Bohn apparently was upset at the officiating. He returned at halftime and spoke to Robinson in a much calmer tone.


kerbyd 10 years, 11 months ago

From what I saw Bohn didn't have anything to be angry about.

Karen Mansfield-Stewart 10 years, 11 months ago

Anyone else keep expecting to see Jeff Withey check into the game?

jayhawkintexas 10 years, 11 months ago

Even thoguh Colorado played a great game, we should have put them away at the free throw line. These tough games will help in the tourney but it sure makes me nervous.

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 11 months ago

Did anyone else think the arena seemed unusually dark? Was the lighting that bad or was it an illusion caused by those ugly CU uniforms?

Chris Shaw 10 years, 11 months ago

ohioburg: You didn't see the "Phog" in the air tonight?

rggeiger 10 years, 11 months ago

I would personally like to see Withey get a little more time. Remember in the championship run when a tall skinny freshman named Aldrich manhandled Tyler Hansborough of UNC in a game where Sasha Kahn got in foul trouble early? We might need another "kid" to do a man's job in the near future. Oh course if we keep squeaking wins in a very tough BIG 12 conference I don't see a lot of play time coming for him.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 11 months ago

If Withey was going to play any role whatsoever, he would have been in by now. T-Rob gets the call if Cole or the twins get in trouble...Jeff doesn't even get a look from HCBS.

Next year it will be different. Jeff will have a season of practice experience, he'll put on another 15-20 pounds of muscle and Cole will be gone.

I predict he'll be one tough 7'-0" hombre in 2010-2011!!

I thought the officiating was very fair last night...totally and equally terrible for both teams, although if you check out the fouls called, it did favor Kansas.

Ann Oneill 10 years, 11 months ago

2000 KU fans???? Really???? What game were you at? CU students filled one end of the court (I had never seen that before) , and there were Buffs fans in the lower level behind the teams, otherwise it was all crimson and blue - at least half the crowd was rooting for the Hawks.

Tuskin 10 years, 11 months ago

Dnvr - If half the crowd was in favor of the Jayhawks, they did a pretty poor job of cheering. On TV, I could barely make out any noise in favor of KU. The CU fans, however, made a lot of noise.

Karen Mansfield-Stewart 10 years, 11 months ago

It just seems odd to me that Jeff Withey doesn't get any PT. He was great in the one game he got significant minutes and we are struggling to find that's 5th guy.

Xavier, Reed, Markieff, TRob, and TT aren't stepping up to be that guy to compliment Collins, Aldrich, Marcus and Morningstar.

A 7 foot guy that's not playing great is still better than a 6-5-ish guy not playing great and would take pressure off and possbily the double team off Aldrich.

Daniel Cummings 10 years, 11 months ago

Mad AD

Colorado AD Mike Bohn spoke to Big 12 officials observer Tom Robinson angrily during a timeout in the first half near the press section. Bohn apparently was upset at the officiating. He returned at halftime and spoke to Robinson in a much calmer tone.

Bohn, actually, was probably complaining that due to lack of financial resources, he's saddled with Dan Hawkins as his coach and yet another lackluster recruiting class!

Daniel Cummings 10 years, 11 months ago


"KU appeared to have about 2,000 fans of the announced crowd of 11,027."

Not sure, if the thin air also affected Gary's ability to count, but I'd wager the KU faithful numbered more like 4-5 thousand out of the 11,000+ in attendance.

jayhawker_97 10 years, 11 months ago

typical coach Self of being Self-respect. he always talks good thing about other teams and gives credits appropriately. win or lose, he'll stay classy. proud to be a Jayhawk fan!

Ann Oneill 10 years, 11 months ago

Tuskin - This was the first time EVER that CU students filled one section of their arena and they WERE LOUD. It's good to see them finally supporting their program. ESPN must have had their mikes at that end of the court, because there were lots of Jayhawk fans.

ebort 10 years, 11 months ago

There were 4,000-5,000 KU alums/ fans in attendance. Unfortunately, we didn't have much to cheer about the 2nd half, while the CU fans were delirious with disbelief they were that close to us. However, we definitely made some noise in OT.

bretfulton 10 years, 11 months ago

From my perspective on the west side of the arena, I'd say there were definitely more CU than KU fans this year. Coors Events holds about 11,000 and I'd say KU had about 35-40% of the crowd. CU fans were quite a bit louder than KU fans. It was clearly a more pro-CU crowd than in recent years

86finalfour 10 years, 11 months ago

86finalfour (anonymous) says... Jay Bilas, ESPN:

" " A great college basketball team." You may have heard me say it and say it many times. And you may think it sounds unkind and trivializing. But it is not. And it happens to be true.

There are no "great" teams in college basketball this season. And there is only one team that has a chance to reach "great team" status before the end of the season, and that team is Kansas. "

Calling Xavier Henry....Xavier Henry!!!!

kschoenhofer 10 years, 11 months ago

Xavier is not getting better, seems like he does not know his role on the team now, Somebody needs fo find the stroke from the outside

Phoggin_Loud 10 years, 11 months ago

How many teams in the country can miss 20 free-throws and still win?

This should have been a loss, but everyone stepped up in O.T. & got the win.


Martini_Boy 10 years, 11 months ago

I see the CU AD pulled a Bohn'r and made a fool of himself. That was as typical of a Big XII officiated BBall game as I have ever seen. And BTW, He has obviously forgotten the GIFT offensive pass interference call in our football game that kept KU from kicking their Buffalo Chips in FTBall this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phoggin_Loud 10 years, 11 months ago

Wed. night in Boulder after MU & KSU rivalry games with UT less than a week away.

This was not too unexpected.

MaMa said there'd be days like this.

David Robinett 10 years, 11 months ago

Maybe Tyshawn should tell Xavier "what his role is"...

slowplay 10 years, 11 months ago

FWIW - I was told, by someone who was told, etc. etc. that Withey's knee is still bothering him. Although the stress fracture has healed, it could be limiting his mobility. It also makes you wonder if the knee injury set him back from a conditioning standpoint. In any event, going up against Cole everyday in practice can do nothing but help his improvement. That said, I too am hopeful he will see some additional PT.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 11 months ago

The officiating was far better and more consistent in this game than against KSU.

We can't put blame for much of anything toward factors other than poor shooting at the stripe and a couple of bad judgement calls on passes, etc. Otherwise, the thin air may have contributed more negatively than most other factors.

I still think the ball had inflation issues the way it bouced on and off the rim.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 11 months ago

There were some infamous charging/blocking calls that could have gone either way, but it was the Jayhawks inability to put the Buffs away and not hitting FT's that kept the game close. You can't blame the refs.

superdave 10 years, 11 months ago

I wouldn't give up on X yet. I think the pace of Big XII games isn't something he's used to yet - not many freshman adjust to the intensity and pace. (Same problem with TRob and Withey). He's getting the minutes he does now because of his tremendous potential and because that potential can still be realized this year. He won't gain comfort by sitting on the bench and needs to play. I think coach has it about right, splitting the time with Morningstar and X. When X starts playing to his ability, Morningstar will see fewer minutes. Either way, we're a tough team to beat. There's still a lot of basketball to be played this year and our team could look a lot different in March if X regains his confidence and starts making shots again. He's been our 5th best player in league ball and that ain't bad.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 11 months ago

Interesting question:

If the extreme altitude is/was a factor in sporting events of a negative nature, what about a game played in an opposite setting. Let's say the same game was played in New Orleans where the city is actually below sea level. Would the result be conversely different? Is there an advantage then, for Colorado when they play at any of the other Big 12 venues which are virtually in the flatlands? If that were true, they should have had a better road win tally over the years. Or, can they only play their best at high altitudes?

Makes you think, huh?

murph 10 years, 11 months ago

The altitude definitely IS a factor in Boulder. In college, I was in marching band. We went out there to perform at a game, and when we started practice the day before I felt like there was no air to be found anywhere around me. None. It was a daunting experience. How our guys had the fortitude to turn it up a notch in overtime the way they did, I can't imagine. We should all be impressed.

TxJyHwk 10 years, 11 months ago

Oakville - While we shot a lot more free throws, the number of fouls was actually only 6 dffferent (27 against Colorado, 21 against Kansas).

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