Kansas defeats Missouri, 77-56

  • 1 p.m., March 6, 2010
  • Mizzou Arena, Columbia, MO

Originally published March 7, 2010 at 12:00a.m., updated March 7, 2010 at 09:29a.m.

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Kansas center Cole Aldrich hangs from the rim over Missouri forward Keith Ramsey after a dunk in the second half, Saturday, March 6, 2010 at Mizzou Arena.

Kansas center Cole Aldrich hangs from the rim over Missouri forward Keith Ramsey after a dunk in the second half, Saturday, March 6, 2010 at Mizzou Arena.


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— Kansas University combo guard Tyrel Reed pumped his chest twice with his right fist, then stared in the direction of Missouri’s Antlers after cashing his third lethal three-pointer against the rival Tigers on Saturday afternoon in Mizzou Arena.

Reed was all fired up after nailing back-to-back second-half treys that sparked the Jayhawks to a resounding 77-56 victory — KU’s most lopsided victory in Columbia in 44 years.

“When he does that, he’s letting us know he’s real confident,” KU senior guard Sherron Collins said of the 6-foot-3, 185-pound Burlington bomber, who barked in the direction of MU’s J.T. Tiller after icing a three from the right corner with 9:22 left, KU up, 51-42.

He hit the three from the left wing — silencing the fans in MU’s raucous student section — on the ensuing possession, boosting KU’s lead to 15 points with 8:51 to play.

“He (Reed) can really play when he’s on his game,” Collins said.

That’s usually the case when No. 2 KU (29-2 overall, 15-1 Big 12) meets rival Mizzou (22-9, 10-6).

Reed, who finished Saturday’s game with 11 points off 3-of-5 three-point shooting with three rebounds and an assist in 19 minutes, scored 14 points off 5-of-6 shooting (4-for-4 from three) in KU’s 84-65 win over the Tigers on Jan. 25 in Allen Fieldhouse.

“I don’t personally feel like a Missouri-killer at all,” said Reed, a soft-spoken guy (off the court), who replied, “that’s all right” when informed he’d hit seven of nine from beyond the arc against MU this season.

He hit three of four threes in a home victory over MU his sophomore year, cooling to 3-of-8 from three in a loss in Columbia.

“I grew up watching the KU-Missouri games,” he said. “Fortunately, I seem to play well against Missouri.”

Same goes for his teammates.

The Jayhawks are 12-3 versus Mizzou in the seven-year Bill Self era. MU’s Mike Anderson is 1-8 against KU overall, 1-7 in his four years in Columbia. The one KU loss versus the former UAB coach was a tough one.

The Jayhawks blew a 14-point halftime lead in last year’s 62-60 setback at Mizzou Arena.

On Saturday, KU saw a 16-point halftime lead (40-24) and 18-point second-half advantage (42-24 at 19:51) dip to four points (44-40) with 12:50 remaining.

“For a second, I was like, ‘C’mon guys.’ When I say ‘guys,’ I include myself,” said Reed, disgusted with the developments.

“I said, ‘We’ve got to start playing again.’ Coach called timeout and got us refocused. We did a great job battling back and keeping our composure. We did a better job after that,” added Reed, who insists he has no ulterior motives when he celebrates his big shots.

“I might look into the crowd or at our bench, but not at one particular person,” Reed said.

Collins hit two free throws, Xavier Henry a layup and foul shot and Collins a layup to open a 22-4 surge that put it away, 66-44, with just over six minutes left. Remember, Reed’s two threes came in the middle of that run.

“They were probably the two biggest shots of the game. They gave us some breathing room,” Collins said.

Leading big at the half, Self reminded his troops of last year’s loss at MU.

“He said, ‘We’ve been in this position before and come out sad,’’’ Reed said.

“That talk was so good we came out and almost gave it all away in the first eight minutes,” Self cracked.

Yet KU was able to withstand a 16-2 MU run that sliced the deficit to four.

“I’d like to say we have a little more maturity. We’re an older team. We were in this position before,” Reed said, asked why KU didn’t squander the lead in its entirety this time.

KU received big contributions from his bench on a day starting guard Tyshawn Taylor led all KU scorers with 13 points off 5-of-13 shooting (he opened 0-for-8). Reed had 11 points, while Markieff Morris (five boards) scored six points at the start of a 30-7 run that obliterated an early 17-10 deficit.

“ Our bench kept our starters fresh. I thought they all contributed in a positive way,” Self said. “We did fight hard. I thought when you watched us play, you really couldn’t tell who our best five players were.”

Marcus Morris, Collins and Cole Aldrich scored 12, 12 and 10 respectively.

“The thing that’s good from a coach’s standpoint is we’re up, 32-24, and you look out there, and Henry (Xavier, seven points), Taylor and Collins hadn’t scored yet, and Cole hadn’t been a factor,” Self said.

KU’s runaway victory — biggest in Columbia since a 77-54 decision on Feb. 5, 1966 — completed a 15-1 league season. KU finished four games ahead of Kansas State, Baylor and Texas A&M; (11-5).

“We thought it would be the hardest year for us to win league. Our guys have not celebrated league at all. That’s the thing that’s been kind of cool to me. I think they feel there are bigger things out there, and if they stay focused they can get them,” Self said.

Now one victory from 2,000, KU will play either Colorado or Texas Tech at 11:30 a.m. Thursday in a second-round Big 12 Tournament game in Sprint Center. CU and Tech meet at 11:30 a.m. Wednesday.

• A previous version of this story was updated.


kellyrojo78 11 years ago

Its funny...Everyone posted on this board that Cuse would lose and KU would win when those Cuse fans came a trollin and look what happened. Saturday was an amazing college hoops day no matter who you root for. Plenty of great games and great play.

Also, the KU fans must have really rocked it out last night. I am never the first person on one of these boards. Go hawks!

KUsports...please post the big 12 tourny sched as soon as it pops

KUPROUD 11 years ago

"He hit three of four threes in a home victory over MU his junior year, cooling to 3-of-8 from three in a loss in Columbia."

I'm pretty sure Reed did that as a sophomore, not a junior. He's a junior this year, or we sure missed celebrating his senior night.

dynamitehawk 11 years ago

Here's how I know I love my wife. I was getting something in the kitchen when the play in the picture above happened. My wife yelled, "You just missed Cole tea-bagging someone". Perfect.

okjhok 11 years ago

the Big XII website has the tourney schedule posted. We're on ESPN2 on Thursday. Bad thing is only two of the tourney games are national. ESPN would rather show ACC quarterfinal games than Big XII semis. Good thing I've got Full Court.

okjhok 11 years ago

can't get enough of dynamite's posts...

docileboy 11 years ago

dynamitehawk; your wife should be on TV, that is pretty funny.

Steve Gantz 11 years ago

Look at the student (and I use that word lightly) section in the picture. Nice to shut them up like that.
This was probably the most satisfying victory of the year for me. I was a little nervous about it. About the article, great game for Reed. The article however says his junior year he did such and such against misery. I thought Sherron was our only senior, or was this just another oversite. okjhok. If true, that's crazy. Why would they want to show quarterfinals when semis are being played somewhere else? Someone said it yesterday, the Big IX execs needs to start flexing some muscle and getting this nonsense corrected.

Steve Brown 11 years ago

I said get out of my basement and stay out of my lane.

notice how many golden gal wantabees and three MU loafer guys are starting the national anthem....which is normally done at the start not the middle of the game.

Steve Brown 11 years ago

dynomite: call the monopoly cable company and ask them how much more a month to get the upgrade box with the 'pause live action' button on the remote.

KU 11 years ago

Here's the Big 12 Championship bracket:

aTm is really the only team on our side of the bracket I would worry about. Colorado is a pretty salty 8 seed. Remember the year they made it all the way to the championship game?

KU 11 years ago

Wow.....looking at the bottom half of the bracket: KSU, Baylor, OSU, and Texas. That's a tough bracket! Whoever comes out of that side of the bracket might be bloodied and bruised for the championship game.

SDSurferFan 11 years ago

LOL dynamitehawk! This may be the greatest KU/Mizzou photo of all time. They need to make this into a tshirt or a billboard or have it fly behind planes on the 4th of July. Besides the teabaggin' by Cole, the different looks and expressions on the mizzery fans is priceless!!!!!

dynamitehawk 11 years ago

Yes. A picture speaks a thousand words. But, perhaps the best is the cheerleader in the lower right corner. Any taker on the thoughts in her mind at that moment?

bbeckum 11 years ago

You wanna talk about t-bagging? This Rick Griggs kid posterizes people every game. I saw him dunk in a game with the ball between his elbows. The kid can flat out play. Please, Coach Self, recruit this kid. He's from Grand Junction, CO and he's a great student too.

SDSurferFan 11 years ago

Her thoughts: Jealously?

Thoughts on the b12 tourney. The tv guys on CBS were claiming KU would not lose sleep over losing in the b12 tourney. Do you think it takes a lot out of them if they play three games in a row? Does it hurt the much more important games next weekend?

For me, I guess not. They should hammer the first round opponent by 30, therefore resting players for the weekend game. Number one seed is firmly in hand regardless.

KU 11 years ago

SD........About the B12 tournament: I think the timing of the OSU loss was perfect. It refocused KU and took the pressure of a very long winning streak out of the way. I think this time of year, you want to be hitting on all cylinders. You want to win 3 games next weekend to give yourself momentum and confidence heading into the NCAA tournament.

Bill Self ain't Roy Williams, in this regard. Williams hated the Big 12 tournament and his attitude about it infected his players. Often, they didn't play like it meant anything. Self wants to win it, period.

wrwlumpy 11 years ago

“When he does that, he’s letting us know he’s real confident,” KU senior guard Sherron Collins said." .... - So when he does that - GET HIM THE BALL!


Spread this photo to all of your Jayhawk friends around the country. Get some photo-shops This could be the Quinn Snyder/Walmart 2010 edition

First, the alum pornstar, and now this.

JHFrenzy 11 years ago

Did anyone catch that guy dressed in that black kkk looking getup in the student section? I was ROFL, stupid methU fans.

Jack Wilson 11 years ago

dynamitehawk: Man, I don't think my wife has ever even said "tea-bagging." But the cheerleader in the corner, at least she's posed and ready (I'm sure this is a violation of the usage agreement .. I'm reporting myself).

Tim Orel 11 years ago

I love the fact that HCBS wants his team to always win - it doesn't matter if it's in pre-conference, during the conference after the team has sewn up the title, during the Big XII tourney or during the NCAA - he never lets the team know it doesn't matter if they don't win.

He also behaves the same way with recruits - he wants to win every recruiting battle and he'll go wherever he needs to in order to get the victory.


Chris1955 11 years ago

Continuing on a theme....

I think the guy dressed in the all black attire was the designated T (insert vowel of your choice) RD, maybe of the polished variety. Three of the coeds in the picture looked on with open mouths in what might have been envy.

My nomination for name the picture "I'm not finished yet!" I am not responsible for coffee spit up on to your keyboard.

aerohawk 11 years ago

If you click on the photo you can see some of it that has been cropped off. There are two cheerleaders with the same look on their faces.

docileboy 11 years ago

Cole Train a comin, get the women and kids back.

KU1992 11 years ago

look at the cheerleader's face in the bottom right corner. Priceless.

okiedave 11 years ago

Anybody wake up this morning feeling bad that we ruined Mizzery's senior day and killed their home winning streak?

okiedave 11 years ago

Anybody wake up this morning feeling bad that we ruined Mizzery's senior day and killed their home winning streak?

Helen Gross 11 years ago

I'll bet the back of that guys head is sore!!!

bad_dog 11 years ago

Is that guy in the stands Darth Vader or a KSU fan wearing some of the trash bags left by the "vandals"?

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 12 months ago

I hate to be assuming, but no doubt KU moves back to the # 1 spot in the top 25. And if today were selection Sunday should/would be the # 1 over all seed.

My question, do these conference tournaments influence the "committee" in terms of the over all # 1 in the NCAA?

Mike Kendall 10 years, 12 months ago

Ralster---- On a more positive note------

I thought looked really good. I think the momentum from the Kansas State and Missouri games will propel them into the Big 12 Tourney with lots of confidence.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks for the bracket, KU!

Rock Chalk!

Kye Clark 10 years, 12 months ago

BCRaven - hard to say what the committee uses for a criteria. There is no set formula. There was a thing on a while back where some staff member was participating in a mock committee. He said there are guys in the room who are slaves to the RPI, those who focus hard on how teams are performing late, those who look at strength of schedule more than others, etc. I know the conference tournaments are a factor. In '08 the last #1 seed was basically determined by who won between KU & Texas in the Big 12 Championship game. I say we just take care of business and win the thing and take any guess work out of the equation. Also, I don't know if the OSU loss put it out of reach or not, but I know there was talk when Sherron became the all-time winningest player at KU that he had a chance of catching Tyler Hansboro for winningest player in NCAA Division 1 history, so that'd be cool to rip honor from a Tar Heel and for Sherron to have earned it.

Speaking of UNC, yesterday was about as good as it gets in college basketball. We trounce Misery, Syracuse loses, K-State loses, and North Carolina gets embarrassed on national TV. Good day

Mike Kendall 10 years, 12 months ago

316---I agree yesterday was a good day, like you said. Today (Sunday) wasn't as good. Kentucky won and Wichita State lost---I am holding out hope that the Shockers will still have a chance to make the Big Dance.

In regard to North Carolina's loss at Duke, what comes around, goes around. Duke has been plastered by Carolina lately----tables have been turned.

stan777 10 years, 12 months ago

Nice finish to a great regular season. Keep working hard. It will pay off.

And as for sympathy for Mizzou, that classless bunch of fans didnt deserve a W.

Glad to see Marcus M. come back in the game strong. Rock Chalk Jayhawk

stan777 10 years, 12 months ago

Nice finish to a great regular season. Keep working hard. It will pay off.

And as for sympathy for Mizzou, that classless bunch of fans didnt deserve a W.

Glad to see Marcus M. come back in the game strong. Rock Chalk Jayhawk

BillConnelly1 10 years, 12 months ago

So ... one commenter at Rock M makes a stupid comment and gets shamed and shouted down by everyone else ... and you're still going to use that as your example that Mizzou has a "classless bunch of fans"? You're really going to play that silly little game?

And by the way, last I checked, "KKK hoods" aren't black. He was dressed up as damn wizard, not a klansman. Geeky and silly? Yes. Racist? Um, not so much.

Anyway, as you were ...

-- Bill C.

stan777 10 years, 12 months ago

Kitties claws out over one little "classless bunch of fans" comment, which I stand by. Do you dare ask why Bill C. Well first its all in good fun and second, the pic of M.Morris layed out was the subject of that particular message board and described as a phenomenal photo.

Also your "Ear Muffs" could hardly be described as "shaming and shouting down that one commentor" (it was several commentor btw) Anyhow I upset a Mizzou fan so my day is complete. Rock Chalk Jayhawk

BillConnelly1 10 years, 12 months ago

Methinks you need to take a reading comprehension course if a) you think the only way the picture could have been called phenomenal is because a KU player is hurt in it (and not because, you know, it was a phenomenal photo), and b) you think the "ear muffs" comment was addressed at the idiotic comment. But hey...rivalries are about thinking your rivals are all complete a-hole idiots, so enjoy.

dynamitehawk 10 years, 12 months ago

I'm sorry I was looking at the girl under Cole's elbow with her head tilted back. What were we supposed to enjoy?

jhokfan 10 years, 12 months ago

Not a big fan of the conference tourney. 3 games in 3 days can only wear us out while the mid-majors will have this week to rest. I'd rather see CS use this as a practice to prepare for the big dance than to try and win it.

Dan Harris 10 years, 12 months ago

Sooballs- your the type of person who would bitch about having to pay taxes after winning the lottery, stop trying to find the negative in everything the Hawks do for crying out loud!

dynamitehawk 10 years, 12 months ago

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hammerhawk 10 years, 12 months ago

All right! Great game, fellows! Great comments everyone. All in all, what a successful weekend. Hawks win, u.n., S, kstate all lose. Will my happiness ever end.

stan777 10 years, 12 months ago

A reading comprehension course to understand such insightful posts such as "huh" and "methinks"? Hilarious. If you lack the grey matter to understand the posting of that pic was to give mizzou fans a sense of exhilaration, (Purchase a print framed from The Columbia Tribune), perhaps a course in Art or Science of Photography would be useless. I personally see nothing wrong with it, photos are used that way all the time. I will be purchasing this one as i found it exhilarating: RCJKU

brooksmd 10 years, 12 months ago

Personally I think it would make for a great t-shirt for when Mizzoo comes calling next year and possibly for some brave souls to wear to Mizzoo. lol

stan777...that photo you found notice the young lady with the yellow ribbon in her hair? Can't see her that well in the above photo as she is behind Tiller's head. In the one you found she appears to have a look of jealousy. I may get a t-shirt from columbiatribune with that photo as well as an 8x10 for my nephew. Poor kid bleeds crimson and blue when KU loses. He's majoring in sports media at Washburn and last time he helped when Washburn played in Lawrence he had a hard time controlling himself and not rooting for KU.

Dirk Medema 10 years, 12 months ago

icthawkfan316 - "Also, I don't know if the OSU loss put it out of reach or not, but I know there was talk when Sherron became the all-time winningest player at KU that he had a chance of catching Tyler Hansboro for winningest player in NCAA Division 1 history, so that'd be cool to rip honor from a Tar Heel and for Sherron to have earned it."

The all-time win total is held by Shane Battier and his dookie class.

jaybate 10 years, 12 months ago

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From: jaybate

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Re: Recent Whereabouts

I stole into Lawrence under cover of darkness the night of the KU-KSU game. I stayed with a friend who must remain nameless, so there will be no threats made on his life. He gave me a ticket to the game.

I came. I saw. I cheered.

KU beat KSU as it should have, despite the fact that Frank Martin has the Wildcats playing exceedingly well.

The old field house is still sacred, as so many have told me. The ghosts of greatness still haunt the place. The dirt track is gone, but the white speckled tile floor is clean and good to look at. The old green paint on the underside of the metal seating structure is long gone. The old, crappy paint-overs of red and blue are long gone. The old girl aka Allen Field House is properly made-up. She is not matronly. She is a grand dame. Each end of the building no longer looks like the dreary windows enclosing a round house full of steam locomotives in for repair. High up, the ends of the field house look like clean, well-lighted spaces with numbered jersey rectangles on one end and banners on the other--dignified, and rather rational, considering the living myth they document. The court is right. The Jayhawk at center court is right. The lettering of Naismith on the court is right. The scoreboard, which all too often ruins other venues, is right--not too big, not too small. The camera carriage with the blue trim and white lettering tracking unobtrusively on the wire is right. The Hall of Fame in front of the old building diminishes its monumental aspect, but still it is at least all right. The parking structure to one side is the best one could hope for in a linked parking structure, but again diminishes the site lines and reduces the monumental quality of old Allen Field House--a structure that used to seem as if it had just landed from another planet and people about twice the size of earth and earthlings. It was a building that mere mortals trembled in approaching even as it bid them enter.

I sat in a season ticket seat in a corner just a few rows up in the fixed seating--the part with the metal flooring. I had sat in this seating, at about this level, at least a dozen times before the age of eight. I had thrilled at the view it offered as a child and now in late middle age I found it just as thrilling.

jaybate 10 years, 12 months ago

Those first few rows in the fixed, metal-floor seating are still the greatest seats in any arena I have ever sat in. The players are close enough to see their expressions, but not so close that they hold your eye so close you miss the entirety of the gaping venue also.

I have also sat at mid court two rows up as a student back in the days when students were bestowed such gifts.

Sitting mid-court was wonderful, because of the magnificience of the athletes one found one's self staring in amazed wonder, but up close you didn't actually see the game framed by your own eyes to include the massive crowd. You had to edit with your eyes when you were down close. You had to look up, look to an end, look back over your shoulder and so on, to see the vastness of those you participated with.

Alas, the students are at each end of the arena now and they are not nearly so loud and raucaus as I recall us all being in the 1970s. There is amplified noise. There is still the brass band. But today's students are not so drunk as we were. They are not so rude. They are not so dreadfully dressed. They are not so dreadfully unkempt. They are not so rowdy.

But they are also not so exhuberantly joyful. We were in comparison to them like aborigines not yet contaminated with television. Our behaviors and mannerisms and extremes of dress were primitive in comparison. We were blissfully unaware of ourselves and our appearances in our exhuberance in those days.

The most extreme among students today are more extreme than we ever were in dress once upon a time. The few yell and mug and dress for the camera. The extreme few sport costumes calculated to attract a camera lens and get them 15 seconds of fame on the scoreboard.

But there are no cups of ice being thrown on each other and at players and coaches. There are no longer hails of hotdogs and oranges, and geysers of pop court, no endlessly bouncing beachballs or balloons, or sailing frisbees, or footballs, or what have you. There seemed to be almost no flasks and no joints being passed among the students.

It felt, how shall I say this, it felt pasteurized.

jaybate 10 years, 12 months ago

The students were fantastically well behaved, in fact, almost alarmingly well behaved to this time traveller from a primitive and long forgotten past.

I regret that the students are ghettoized into the ends of the field house. My four years of sitting behind team benches and where ever else I wound up along the side line fully educated me as a basketball fan. I defy anyone to watch four years of KU basketball from the sideline seats and not learn the game.

But I regret even more that there was no section of KSU students. Half the fun of games when I was young was having the opponent's fans in the stands to chant at and hoot at and deride for all one was worth. Without the opponents fans in the arena, there is no joy, no thrill, no chance of injury, or attack, in wearing t-shirts with outrageous slogans, because there are not opposing fans to be angered and antagonized by them.

The loss of the robust, earthy and down right foul-mouthed give-and-take of opposing student sections is something that should be restored to college basketball ASAP.

Until it is restored, college basketball arenas will have too much of the character of the Roman Coliseum, when the Christians were marched in to face the lions. In the Coliseum, there was no one to root for the Christians, because everyone in attendance was a pagan. A decadence inevitably overcame the Roman Coliseum crowds. Without competition among equals, without opposing fans, inexorably, the audience came more and more to value spectacle rather than skill in battles. I fear the same might befall basketball and its fans over time if opposing fans are not restored. Forcing Number Five ranked KSU to play in an arena full of frothing KU fans is not that much different than feeding Christians to lions in a coliseum full of pagan Romans. It is too one-sided.

The arena was full to the brim with almost uniformly blue figures fine looking Kansas fans. They wore blue t-shirts, blue sweat shirts, blue jackets, blue hats, blue caps and, I suspect, not a few blue panties, thongs, briefs and boxers.

The concession stands offered much variety, but they still looked more like concession stands than food court facades in an NBA arena. Good, I say.

jaybate 10 years, 12 months ago

The cheerleaders were not nearly so buxom as in the old days, which struck me as rather ironic in a present day when everyone from Hollywood actresses, to socialites, to strippers, to women CEOs are competing to see which one can keep the biggest implants from drifting hopelessly outward toward each shoulder. Maybe these young women and the persons that pick them constitute the beginning of the age of enlightenment about the unsurpassed appeal of any natural woman regardless of what size and shape she may be.

And then there was the game.

Despite the roughness, KU basketball is better in every way than it was in the 70s,

It is not just that KU wins more.

It is that KU does more things with more sophistication on both ends of the floor in any given game than KU teams did back in the 70s.

Bill Self truly is amazingly gifted at what he does and what he expects out of these young men is truly demanding and impressive.

The outside shooting is nothing short of brilliant both in numbers of trinitizers he can bring to bear on any particular situation, but also in terms of just how far out many of these treys are taken.

At one point in the second half, Self played Aldrich on the blocks, Xavier at the high post against a zone, with Brady, Tyrel, and Sherron on the perimeter. Think of that. Self put 4 essentially 40% trifectates on the floor at once!

Too much has been written about the game itself to go on about it further. Suffice it to say that until one has seen for real Sherron make his moves in the paint and Cole turn into block-a-matic on defense, one just cannot help underestimating how truly difficult this team is to beat.

And to ice the cake of my return after many years, there was the incomparable Sherron Collins getting the kind of beloved recognition that means more than any votes of pixel-stained wretches with green visors and thin lap tops can ever mean.

jaybate 10 years, 12 months ago

Let me reiterate here and now: Sherron is the best point guard ever to play at KU. He is the winningest player. He is the greatest impact player at point guard at KU ever. Certain of his numbers may be exceeded by some former KU great point guard, like Darnell Valentine, etc., but Sherron really is in a class all of his own, when it comes to altering games in big ways at big moments. He is a great, great player, who ironically, may be past his physical prime as a great athlete. I cannot help but notice that the knee injuries and years of play seem to have robbed him of some of his explosiveness that he came to KU with. But whatever the loss of explosiveness, it is still minor enough to make watching him as constantly amazing in basketball, as was watching Gale Sayers once upon a time in Memorial Stadium. Sayers was never the greatest running back of all time, though he certainly was and remains the best that KU ever had. No one could take the title of greatest running back from Jim Brown, or O.J. Simpson, or some of the great and durable and powerful runners that have followed over the years. But Sayers was the greatest impact back that ever carried a football and I argue and will continue to that while there are many greater point guards in college basketball history than Sherron Collins, he is now IMHO the greatest impact player ever to play PG. Even when I think of the truly greatest point guards like Magic Johnson and Jerry West, and perhaps Allen Iverson (though he has squandered so much of his gift), change games quite the way Sherron can and does frequently. Magic, Jerry and AI could dominate games like Sherron could never dream of doing. But Sherron simply does have an unsurpassed flare for the big play at decisive moments.

Fans forget that in the '08 NCAA Final vs. Memphis it was Sherron that shot the incredible trey right before "The Shot" by Chalmers and it was Sherron that made the incredible drive and pass that set up "The Shot."

Sherron Collins has made these incredible plays so many times since then that there just is no one left to compare him to at point guard in KU history.

I do not know if Sherron has enough explosiveness left in him to be a great professional basketball player in the NBA, but I suspect he has.

jaybate 10 years, 12 months ago

People did not think Sayers could do in the NFL what Sayers did at KU, because he was too light and too delicate, but he proved them all wrong.

I suspect Sherron will prove the doubters wrong about his ability to be a star in the NBA, also.

Like Sayers, Sherron will not have the durability and overwhelming physical size required to be the definitive all-time great as a pro. But just like Sayers, the pros are about to discover an impact player the likes of which they have never seen before, just as college basketball had never seen a guy like this before.

I hope Gale Sayers and Sherron Collins talk. They both have the uncanny ability to to fake very good opposing players out of their jock straps and to make impact plays frequently and at the biggest moments imaginable. I hope they talk to each other, because I think each would recognize this remarkable gift in the other and perhaps Gale could shed light on how to live gracefully and with dignity with this great gift.

Rock Chalk, Mr. Collins!

Kye Clark 10 years, 12 months ago

dagger - oops! thanks for the correction. at any rate, it'd still be nice for Sherron to have that, no matter who he surpasses in the process.

UofLfan 10 years, 12 months ago

Hey Jayhawks fans, want to put a bug up UK fans butts? Go to this website:

Look on the left side of the screen and vote for your guy for NCAA freshman of the year. The choices are John Wall from University of Kensucky, DeMarcus “I’ll pop a cap in yo azz” Cousins from University of Kensucky, Derrick Favors from Georgia and Xavier Henry of Kansas.

Right now it is 227 for Wall 121 for Cousins 28 Derrick Favors 71 Xavier Henry.

It would surely be a BI&*$ SLAP of an insult if a Kansas player beat Wall and Cousins in a survey by a Kentucky T.V. station notorious for its bias for the University of Kensucky.

okiedave 10 years, 12 months ago

UofLfan: As a matter of fact you can actually vote multiple times without even leaving the website.

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