Wednesday, November 9, 2011


Naadir Tharpe gives KU yet another jet

Kansas guard Naadir Tharpe raises up the Fieldhouse during a run by the Jayhawks against Fort Hays State during the second half on Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas guard Naadir Tharpe raises up the Fieldhouse during a run by the Jayhawks against Fort Hays State during the second half on Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.



KU vs. Fort Hays State

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Kansas defeated Fort Hays State, 101-52 on Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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KU coach Bill Self

Kansas coach Bill Self talks to reporters following the Jayhawks' 101-52 exhibition victory over Fort Hays State.

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Thomas Robinson’s contagious smile starts at Washington, D.C., and travels along I-70 all the way to Lawrence. It’s that wide, and it consumed the room during Tuesday night’s postgame interview session when he was asked about the chemistry he had with high school and current teammate Naadir Tharpe.

“YouTube us,” he advised.

Tharpe chimed in: “We got a lot of highlights, a lot of highlights, a lot of highlights.”

Tharpe, a 5-foot-11 freshman point guard from Worcester, Mass. who played three years at Brewster Academy in Wolfeboro, N.H., where Robinson played one season, knows how to supply those.

He’s a jet who can stop suddenly, create space and drain long jumpers. He also knows how to get to the hoop. With talent like he has, it’s only natural to want to create highlights, enjoy watching them and revel in others doing the same. As much as Tharpe enjoys memorable plays, he likes playing time even better.

Early in Kansas University’s 101-52 slaughter of Fort Hays State, Tharpe, in wild-colt mode, dribbled his way into the lane on a possession that didn’t end well.

“Hey,” ninth-year KU coach Bill Self lashed, “run the stuff.”

So for much of the rest of the night, Tharpe “ran the stuff,” mixed in highlights and showcased a sweet shooting touch on his way to 19 points, seven assists and five steals with just two turnovers. He made two of three three-pointers and all three free throws. Afterward, he drew compliments from a coach who doesn’t engage in a great deal of that sort of talk this time of year.

“The thing about it is with young kids, when they figure out that they don’t know, then they’ll get better faster,” Self said. “A guy like Naadir (Tharpe) and Kevin (Young) and guys who don’t get a chance to play as much or that really need to see some positive things happen, need to make an abundance of really easy plays, rather than try to hit a home run.”

Young, the slender forward who transferred from Loyola Marymount, doesn’t look ready to fit in yet. Tharpe is shaping up as a guy who’s ready to play a lot right away in relief of, and sometimes in a three-guard look with, Elijah Johnson and Tyshawn Taylor.

“I thought Naadir did a much better job tonight of just making a simple play,” Self said. “A bunch of simple plays added up turned out to be great. Maybe we’re starting to realize that a little bit.”

Tharpe has a fearless quality to his game.

“He’s a cocky guy, and if you are 5-foot-whatever at his level, you better be pretty cocky and tough,” Self said. “He has to improve on guarding his man and not looking where the screen is coming from, but the little guy can shoot the basketball, and he has been doing that since he’s been here.”

Tharpe had nine turnovers in the first exhibition game, against Pittsburg State, and faced considerably tougher competition all week.

“Playing against Tyshawn and Elijah in practice, they really went after me, and we were going at it,” Tharpe said.

Kansas, quite thin in the front-court, will always play at a fast pace because among Taylor, Johnson and Tharpe, it will have at least two, sometimes three jets on the floor at all times.


Steve Brown 10 years, 6 months ago

will he stop anybody, not likely at this developmnt. stage.

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

Thank you so much for the assist.

My apologies to Naadir. It got stuck in my brain with two ii's since last summer. Eek!

Feed me aricept, Seymour. Feed me now!

kufaninmo 10 years, 6 months ago

In your defense bro, phonetically speaking yours might sound more correct if that helps!

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

“The thing about it is with young kids, when they figure out that they don’t know, then they’ll get better faster,” Self said.

As with many brilliant people, Self says profound things with deceptive simplicity.

This statement alone, if it were widely embraced by teachers, could change the world for the better in a single generation.

Anyone who has thought about thinking knows this is the lighthouse in the darkness.

Making us not know what we don't know what you don't is is the goal of all propaganda and mind control education.

Helping each of us discover what we do not know is the the goal of all enlightened, humane action.

Discover of the not known frees a mind to get better.

All truly great leaders help people discover what they do not they do not know.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." --Franklin Roosevelt

Our country and our world can and will be great again, once we as a people discover what we do not know and set minds and hands to get better.

And what we do not know we do not know is almost always right in front of us...ready and waiting to be gotten better at.

Robert Murphy 10 years, 6 months ago

The vote in Ohio will go a long way to help us get better. The forces of evil got a good kick in the pants last night.

Jayhawkintexas1973 10 years, 6 months ago

No it didn't. The forces of evil won. The public employee unions, now just think about that for a minute. When is the last time you walked into a government office in Kansas and was satisfied with the service you received? That's right, it wasn't a service. It was a requirement for you to be there, wasn't it? To pay what?

Jayhawkintexas1973 10 years, 6 months ago

However, the people of Ohio said no to mandated health care insurance, and that was a kick in the pants of the evil forces.

southwindjay 10 years, 6 months ago

Go troll another site if you want to talk polotics. This here son is KU BASKETBALL TALK!!!

nuleafjhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

"As with many brilliant people, Self says profound things with deceptive simplicity."

Jaybate KNOWS irony ! LOL

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

The only thing to fear is fear of Nadiir's D.

Once he knows what he does not know about defense, he will get better faster, right Coach?

Rock Chalk!

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

The Private begs the pardon of the website alias. The Private has already gotten down and given 20 on the fingers for Biek. Now 20 more, sir yes, sir.

fansincewilt 10 years, 6 months ago

I'm pretty impressed both with Nadir's play and with the previous commentary.

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

Not known.


Get better.

--Chant from "The Tao of Getting Better"

jchief40 10 years, 6 months ago

I don't know about you all but even after last game I feel that Naadir, Taylor, EJ, TRob, & Withey should be our starting 5 with Teahen first guy off the bench & Releford also subbing at guard.

lee3022 10 years, 6 months ago

Our short bench at bigs will necessitate a bigger wing than those three, I suspect we will see a three guard rotation (Taylor, Johnson and Tharpe) with a couple rotating at the '3' (Releford and Teahan) and a three big rotation (Robinson, Withey and Wesley).

Alohahawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Our short bench seems to be getting longer. Love these youngsters getting the chance to prove themselves early, and build up some confidence. It's going to be a big benefit down the road when we start playing more frequently and need to give some of the starters some rest. ( ie. Three games in three days in Maui, and three (or four) days in a row in the Big 12 tourney.)


fansincewilt 10 years, 6 months ago

I think these guys can play with the best. We will find out here pretty quickly.

Brad Avery 10 years, 6 months ago

It's way too early to say this, but I will say it anyway. Tharpe is the best freshman point guard at KU since Captain Kirk strapped them up for the first time. He is a consumate leader because of his intelligence on the floor and superior basketball skills. HCBS will have to start him at pg eventually because he is simply better at running the team than anyone KU has had in a long time.

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

I agree, it may not be right away, but eventually it very well could happen.

HawkKlaw 10 years, 6 months ago

I feel the same way. He is a true PG who makes all of his teammates better. Next year he will be running the team.

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

"Pain. Pain. Death. End of a species." --The Horta, Star Trek, under Vulcan Mind Meld with Spock

How quickly we forget.

Love his O.

Fear his D.

Naadir is a conventional and already good distributive offensive point guard that cannot yet guard his own shadow.

If Tyrel and Conner can learn to move their feet and guard, then Naadir can to.

But as we have seen with Tyrel and Conner, it can take anywhere from a year, to four years of work with Magister Hudy in the lead weight game.

Even Sherron could at least guard his own shadow his freshman season and everyone who is loving on Naadir hated on Sherron's D. And recall how Sherron could light the candle on his exceptional freshman and sophomore teams, whenever he stepped on the floor.

Self likes backup PG's that "run the stuff", only about a quarter faster.

That Naadir can do it against DII is good.

But Sherron could do it against the best.

We must wait and see if is Automatic for the People when the blue bloods are dogging him.

Naadir's got a ways to go.

And unless Pitt State and Ft. Hays State had D1 PGs on a D2 team, his PT will have to be kept very, very slim until he can reduce his blow by to stay with his man ratio to less than 1:1.

Division II guards doing blow-by's consistently is sign that he now can know what he has to get better at.

How he can even stay in the same gym trying to guard Tyshawn I do no know? Maybe Liquid Lightening, er, Tyshawn, is taking it easy on the kid.

Whatever, Self speaking in Self-ese let on that Self recognizes the problem.

Self subtlety bundled Naadir with Kevin Young as two guys that weren't going to get a lot of minutes once the guns are firing live rounds. They need to get used to doing a lot of little things right; that is Self-ese for you have to be a second jock strap for the guy you're guarding before the PT god is going to bless you with serious PT.

Having said the above, it is unmistakeable that Naadir, if he can learn to guard D1 speed, could become one of the special guards that orchestrates a team like a conductor does a symphony.

Ben Simonett 10 years, 6 months ago

Its been 2 games, against vastly inferior opponents,

lets wait until he plays some actualy competition first, jeez!

Timmay97 10 years, 6 months ago

Tharpe is our Sherron Collins off the bench. He will not start over Releford, Taylor and Johnson. And quite frankly, this is the way it SHOULD be. Starting is overrated and Tharpe is a HUGE sparkplug off the bench. KU will need that throughout the season.

To me, the guard position is the least of KU's concerns. I'm way more concerned about our front line AFTER Robinson and Withey. Hopefully, these guys mature fast. If anything, Kentucky at MSG will get them to mature fast. I'm going to that game and am hoping to see a great outcome.

Kevin Huffman 10 years, 6 months ago

Agreed. His career will go much like Sherron's although without the weight concerns. Supersub for his first year, but I think he'll be starting by next year.

Next year's starting five?:

Tharpe E.Johnson McLemore Ellis (maybe Wesley even...seems less likely though) Withey???????????????

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

Ellis will start from Day 1 in the crimson and blue. Why for all the question marks with Withey? He played very well last night in only his second true game with meaningful minutes.

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

+1 Withey is coming into his own and finding his game really well. I love his activity in the paint. He's active and has a nose for the ball. Withey and TRob will make a nice tandem inside. If you add Wesley and Young learns his role, our inside game will be much better as the season rolls.

I loved the charge Withey took on the hulky fella from FHays St. I like his intelligence. He also made a pass that KU recovered and he immediately slapped his chest after scoring by taking responsiblity for the poor pass.

This team may not be too deep but if they play smart, they will make up for the depth. I don't like the term "play hard" but at this point it must be "play smart."

Vernon Riggs 10 years, 6 months ago

Traylor with a year of playing against TRob and listening to Danny will be strong in the high/low game.

Shabazz will be a starter if he comes.

Chris Washburn Jr., if he comes will push Withey in the 5 spot too.

Maybe TRob will stay one more year of the NBA doesn't play in 2011-2012. (Longshot).

Here is my five for 2012-2013:

  1. Tharpe
  2. EJ
  3. Big Ben
  4. Perry Ellis
  5. Traylor

That team could play half court with anyone in the nation and play the full court with anyone that could keep up with them. SPEED!

John Hunt 10 years, 6 months ago

I agree that Traylor's athleticism and raw ability point to him eventually being a force to be reckoned with down low, but remember that he will neither be able to practice with the team (and, by extension, against T-Rob) or learn from Manning's tutelage, since the NCAA has declared him a partial qualifier and therefore unable to join in team practices.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 6 months ago

Don't forget about Zach Peters, do not let his rating fool you. He committed early and dropped in the rankings because of it.

Alohahawk 10 years, 6 months ago

+1 IMHO, Peters is going surprise a LOT of people. He was ranked much higher, until he chose KU and left the AAU circuit to concentrate on other elements of his game, in the process, losing national recruiting attention. That, and playing football during his senior year in high school dropped him off the BBall radar.

Michael Pannacciulli 10 years, 6 months ago

So bummed that Ben is not playing this year...awful. imagine how much better he would be next year if he was battle tested this year. I think this squad will be slightly better than. 500 this year. They are one injury away from sub. 500. And you thought it was hard to recruit now...

I am so spoiled as a hawk fan...we all are...been enjoying nothing but success from these guys since my frosh year in 93. Cant imagine a down cycle...never really felt that pain with my hawks...i have the my jets for that pain.

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

Disagree. You are right about one thing, starting doesn't mean jack squat. What matters is "Flow" and precision within the offense. If Taylor and EJ don't possess these qualities early in the season.........and we'll find out pretty quickly considering the schedule, look for Self to make adjustments accordingly with Tharpe at the top of his list.

kufaninmo 10 years, 6 months ago

I agree with Shaw here...also would like to add that Sherron chose not to start over Russell Robinson because he didn't want to interfere with the upperclassmen's chemistry from seasons of play together. I don't see Tharpe turning down a starting spot (if he maintains this level of play and is offered one) over a starting lineup that is still more or less speculation as of now.

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

He'll be starting if TT doesn't get his crap together, keep it together and play with consistency. The way it SHOULD be too. There are no more excuses for TT. He's played and started enough to know how to run the point with few, very few mistakes. The mistakes will come but they need to be so small, you don't notice them and he should still complete plays even when he makes those mistakes.

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

I know this is only two preseason games, but I could definitely see Self throwing a wrench into everybody's plan down the road depending on how Taylor and EJ playing. Taylor and EJ are not true pointguards IMO.

With that said, Tharpe is a floor general and you're never going to steal the ball away from him. Time will tell as the competition quickly increases, but I could definitely see Tharpe sometime this season taking over the starting point guard duties and having Taylor/EJ/Teahan coming off the bench as the 2 guard.

It's amazing how nice things flow with a true point guard. Not saying Taylor or EJ won't or can't do that, but I wouldn't be surprised if Self mixed it up down the road with Tharpe starting. Would't surprise me at all.

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago I have said with every Tharpe comment thus far this season.................Tarc, you're going to miss playing with your buddy.

Tony Parker, are you listening?

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

LOL- I couldn't agree more. No disrespect to Tarc but it really was a dumb dumb decision on his part. I respect his decision because it was his to make, but he was quoted saying, "I want to continue playing with Naadir" and "I would love to play with Ellis in college."

Hmm...I guess we change our minds too easily. Or, Miller did a great job to discourage him against his own words. Oh well, I really don't think Tarc will reach his potential as a big in college. He will bank in the NBA but not be the star that KU produces under DMan.

Moving right along....

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

Tharpe has one of the best minds too. He's got a mind for the game and knows his position better than most ponts in the game. He's a freakin' pg scholar. I like that about him because by his fourth yr, he will be fully seasoned. His body is strong too for a small pg. He can't make contact and finish plays.

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

Huge correction- He can make contact and finish plays. Huge typo.

HawkKlaw 10 years, 6 months ago

Yeah, being short doesn't really matter when you're a bad@$$.

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

Tharpe can play as much point as he can defend.

If he learns to guard by next game, he's going to see quite a bit of minutes, because when TRob and Withey are in, you've got to drive the ball into the paint, dish, and let them throw down.

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Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

One other thought, out of everyone on the team, I am most concerned with EJ. You know, it's amazing what two meaningless preseason games can do, but EJ has missed a tremendous opportunity to get out the kinks in these two games.

His first two years, he has always been looking over his shoulder to another player and he's been looking at Coach Self whether or not he was going to play or get yanked from the game.

I thought this would be a "Carefree" season for EJ and it very well may be, but missing these two games has been huge for EJ. I was hoping there wouldn't have been any pressure on this kid and he could just come out and play, but hopefully the excitement of Tharpe doesn't creep into EJ"s head.

EJ is the most interesting, intriguing, and most concerned player I am worried about on the Jayhawk roster. No pressure, huh? :)

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

You know, I wasn't going to compare this team to the 1991 squad, but I think I am going to after watching the first two exhibition games.

Mark Randall-T. Robinson

Terry Brown-T. Taylor (different kind of players, but both were seniors)

Adonis Jordan-This is a hard one because Taylor probably fits this mold better, but Tharpe is a better filler here even though he is Freshman and Jordan was sophomore at that time.

Steve Woodberry-Travis Releford

Mike Maddox-Jeff Withey

Richard Scott-Justin Wesley

Sean Tunstall-EJ

Alonzo Jamison-Kevin Young

Connor Teahan-???????? I am having trouble comparing him to anybody on the 1991 squad. Maybe Downtown Terry Brown as Connor is now Downtown Triple Treyhan which definitely could be the case. Or, you could compare him to Steve Woodberry because Woodberry did all the little things that makes up a great team and Connor could definitely fill that void as well.

I think what it boils down to in this little experiment is that Taylor is kind of rarity and to some degree EJ is as well. I really have no problem comparing him to Sean Tunstall. I think he's a far better player, but you also have to prove it on the court when it matters.

With that said, I think what I have found with this little experiment is that KU may very well be deeper than we all originally thought. I guess we'll know soon enough.

kufaninmo 10 years, 6 months ago

If u wanna take it far enough down the road, I think Teahan might be the next Boschee! Boschee seemed to have a bit better handles though...

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

Yeah, I can kind of see that, but Boschee was a point guard that was moved strictly over to the shooting guard as a 6'0. Boschee didn't help much with anything on the rebounding, but was there for his decision making and assists.

I don't know, Treyhan can definitely shoot, but I think he'll be able to contribute in a "Garbage" mode mentality as well that maybe Boschee was unable to do.

I don't know, it's a tough one.

Vernon Riggs 10 years, 6 months ago

go back a few more years and go with Dave Magley. Late 70's, 6'6"-6'7" with a 3-point touch, hard working blue-collar work ethic from South Bend, IN

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

Zo was a freaking stud. You know, I went back and read Zo's bio.....I had forgotten that he had taken a year completely off to go work for his Dad at a Chevy Dealership. He then went on to Junior College, had to sit out a year at KU and then played 3 more years. No wonder he was so freaking solid. You're exactly right.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 6 months ago

Tharpe was impressive. He is being compared to Sherron Collins, and, I can see some similarities for sure. Both Bob Davis and Chris Piper were raving about Tharpe. He gives us that added dimension. It will be interesting how this pans out when the Hawks play tougher competition. Rock Chalk!

Steve Brown 10 years, 6 months ago

Releford seems like has the soph jynx should be well past that by now in his KU career, maybe I'm expecting too much. No doubt different starting than coming off bench.

HawkKlaw 10 years, 6 months ago

I've been concerned about Releford too. I thought he would roast Pitt St and Ft Hays St, but he was kinda mediocore. Withey was the only starter last night that scored less than Travis, and even Wesley contributed more than Travis did. Maybe, like you said, he's having trouble adjusting now that he's expected to start and play well. I hope he gets it going soon though, we're going to need him to play well this season.

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

Sherron? I didn't see a thing wrong with it. If he didn't thump, we'd be questioning his tenacity. This team needs some chest bumping and some attitude at this point. They have something to prove. He's a freakin' point guard, they do that from time to time.

If he can back the chest bumping with some plays, let him do it.

KuKain 10 years, 6 months ago

Reading Comprehension. Reading Comprehension. Reading Comprehension.

Timmay97 10 years, 6 months ago

kushaw -

Great points, as always. I do enjoy your posts. However, the one disagreement I have here is Tharpe for Taylor. Though he has gotten himself into trouble numerous times, he's still the veteran on the team. There is NO WAY as a four year starter he will be coming off the bench. As I said before, starting IS overrated, but with Taylor.....that's too much mind games for Coach Self to throw at him.

As for EJ.....i think he's going to stun and surprise everyone. He's going to explode this year and I even think his shot will improve tremendously. As I said above.....I'm totally pumped about the aspect of Tharpe, but I do think he's best served coming off the bench to add life to a team that's going to play tired as their bench is already thin.

Agree or thing we can ALL agree on is that Tharpe is going to be far better than any of us realized. KU is about to play their toughest schedule under Bill Self with their weakest team. If they make it through this year and into the tourney this year, it will be WELL EARNED!!

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

I agree with you about Taylor. I also don't believe he would come off the bench as Taylor would move over to the 2 spot and play his more natural combo spot. With that said, I think what we are all concluding here is that EJ may very well be the sacrificial lamb in this equation if he's not careful.

I think if you had a totem pole, Taylor would most certainly get the nod over EJ in the equation.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 6 months ago

I do think it is early. I think Tharpe has an inch or two on Collins, but Collins played the game and stepped up in Big Games. Let's not go too overboard yet, especially against a mediocre first half of the first exhibition game and a solid second game.

i'd also say that TRob makes a lot of people look a lot better. As the competition increases dramatically, and teams can hit from the outside (FHSU was 0-9 in the first half) we might see how good some of our defense is.

I would say that I wouldn't be surprised if you have the starting 5 as TT, Tharpe, EJ, Trob, JWithey. First off the bench is Releford for the guards and Wesley on the tall people.

In one moment during the game, they had TRob, JWithey, and JWesley on the floor at the same time, that is some height. If JWesley really is athletic enough to cover a 3, don't be surprised if we see this line-up if there is not a lot of foul trouble.

Young was alright. Merv needs about 50 lbs and knowledge of when to shoot the ball. Which means we could be very vulnerable to foul trouble. Although TRob and JWithey against short line-ups have done pretty good so far in the foul department.

It is going to be a good season, and I think we are going to surprise some teams early, I think we are ahead of schedule, but if we don't keep improving it could be rough come Big XII play.

kufaninmo 10 years, 6 months ago

Tharpe and Collins are both listed as 5'11", but you're right Tharpe looks taller. Probably because he's thin, and not a heavier "Fire hydrant with a bulldog mentality" as Collins was!

REHawk 10 years, 6 months ago

The Tharpe Factor definitely will generate concern for opposing coaches. I look to see Calipari make a major attack at our bigs, hoping to get both in early foul trouble; then relying on his deeper bench to foul those two at the other end, gambling that they will miss freethrows. Within such an opposing gameplan, our other 3 starters just might go off for some major stats. Treyhan, Tharpe and Wesley are in position to become real gamechangers in that Garden contest. Their minutes in the two exhibition contests will benefit the 2011-12 squad immeasurably. Towson and Kentucky must be highly concerned at not yet seeing but a glimpse of Bill Self's lineup. TT and EJ will be pumped to the gills for these early contests. When adrenalin wanes, Tharpe and Treyhan should be ready and rarin' to relieve.

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

I love the Tharpe Factor, perfect nickname. "The Factor" has a ring to it.

Yeah- Cal has a few hacks in his line up, Eloy Vargas. He's a big Dominican that can hack with the best of them. He's much like Harrelson without Kanter.
TT/Lamb EJ/Teague Rel/Jones or Miller TRob/Jones or Wiltjer Withey/Davis or Vargas

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

Agreed Truehawk! I like "The Factor" So, how do we officially recognize these nicknames? Do we have a board or counsel where we can have a vote? Suggestions definitely wanted.

Thomas Robinson-T-Rob

Connor Teahan-Downtown Triple Treyhan or simply Treyhan

Naadir Tharpe-The Tharpe Factor-"The Factor"

Jeff Withey- J-Wit-I got nothing clever for the Zona Footer.

Elijah Johnson-EJ-crickets-I got nothing

Travis Releford-Relly

Kevin Young-I am a big fan of "KY" because of his slipperiness on the court.

Tyshawn Taylor-TT or T-Train

Justin Wesley-I saw somebody say "J-Freeze" and I thought that was funny.

Vulgarity24 10 years, 6 months ago

I remember the first game Teahan went off (think his freshman yr). Bob Davis called him Cool Hand Teahan. think it was the way he said it made it funny but it's always stuck for me. I like Chinthey for Withey cause he reminds me of Chenowith. Just hope he stays away from the DMB shows. Hear people call Releford T.I. cause he looks like him (I don't see it). Eli is probably the hardest, can't think of nothing. My fav had to be "funny" for morningstar cuz he looks like Doug Funny the cartoon character.

Chris Shaw 10 years, 6 months ago

I don't like Chinthey! I never want to be reminded of Chenowith.

KGphoto 10 years, 6 months ago

I'm tired of "T-Rob". He's "Mr. Zero" to me. You know what you don't do with Mr. Zero, right?

I think you gotta earn a nickname or have it land in your lap.

Elijah is "The Prophet"

Teahan, thanks to jaybate I believe is "007" because of his Connery/Conner similarity and his marksmanship.

Not sure about the rest yet. TT needs something better though. Something to do with his length and speed. How about nicknaming him after one of those European or Asian speed trains, instead of just T-Train?

KGphoto 10 years, 6 months ago

For Tyshawn, I like the idea of an international touch to his nickname since he was selected as an All-Star on the 2009 FIBA U19 World Championship team that brought home the gold, and ended an 18 year drought for the USA

How about ETR? Elettro Treno Rapido! A 190 mph Italian supertrain that was built right after the US won it's last FIBA World Championship.

How about something to do with his domination at that event being in New Zealand in 2009. The Earl of Auckland. The Auckland Assassin.

Maybe something that encompasses his speed and senior leadership. "GoDaddy". I like it, but considering his bleacher escapades, it could be too close for comfort ;-P

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

Shaw- Jaybate gave EJ "The Prophet" if I remember right. He will prophesy to our opponents and help lead us to the Promise Land. Woe to our opponents.

Joe Baker 10 years, 6 months ago

I want him to succed and hope you're right. I'm tired of talking about TT and reading negative criticisms. He needs to play, act and live like a senior player.

Prove me wrong Tyshawn and lead us to the Big Dance.

I hear The Factor loves to dance. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope they all dance and dance well.

master16 10 years, 6 months ago

i hope Tharpe is a scoring version of Aaron Miles.

Vulgarity24 10 years, 6 months ago

-The Brewster Boys will have it rollin this season. Just to bad we couldn't grab a 3rd wit McGary tho. Oh well, i've got trust in the staff to grab players that fit well in the system and can be coached. Tharpe will only get better. Seems to have a high b-ball IQ and his head on straight. Love the ferocious D too. - Young just doesn't look comfortable underneath. He needs to play stronger. - Passing is probably my main concern, especially into the post. Going to be missing Brady for that. We make the half ass passes we made last night against Kentucky they will have fast breaks on us all night.

Vulgarity24 10 years, 6 months ago

His defense was good last night and that'll be a great contribution. Having someone his size coming of the bench holding down the bigger perimeter players will be nice. Hope he can keep it up against better players. Didn't realize he cleaned up the glass that well. That's the one thing about the Phog is it's hard to keep up on any stat other than pts and fouls

KuKain 10 years, 6 months ago

Tharpe is too much fun to watch. I cannot wait to watch him develop over the years. With the poise he is already showing, I think he will eventually have that ice cold factor that Chalmers has. I think Self scored HUGE with this kid.

HawkKlaw 10 years, 6 months ago


I've said it before, but Naadir is proof that you don't have to be a top 50 or top 100 recruit to contribute at a major program like Kansas. He's far better than what his ranking on some web site would imply. That's why I don't get too high or too low when KU signs/misses a highly rated recruit - with Bill Self, you know he's getting someone that will fit his system.

KGphoto 10 years, 6 months ago

I'm surprised nobody has compared him to Jacque Vaughn.

Vaughn was a quick, creative passer with leadership, court vision and a flare for greatness. Vaughn was a smart guy, and got a quick start by beating out the starting point guard, Calvin Rayford, early in the season and stamping his imprint on the program during a big pre-season NIT in Madison Square Garden.

Well, here comes The Garden.

KGphoto 10 years, 6 months ago

Can we call Naadir and Conner, our 1 2 punch?

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