Originally published January 2, 2010 at 03:08p.m., updated January 2, 2010 at 07:32p.m.

FINAL: KU overwhelms Temple, 84-52

Kansas center Cole Aldrich pulls back for a two-handed jam before the Temple defense during the second half, Saturday, Jan. 2, 2010 at the Liacouras Center in Philadelphia, Pa.

Kansas center Cole Aldrich pulls back for a two-handed jam before the Temple defense during the second half, Saturday, Jan. 2, 2010 at the Liacouras Center in Philadelphia, Pa.


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2010 KU-Temple

KU routs Temple on the road

The Jayhawks faced their first real road test Saturday taking on the nationally ranked Temple Owls. Kansas cruised to an 84-52 victory.

Reader poll

In which phase of the game was KU better against Temple?

  • Offense 19% 368 votes
  • Defense 73% 1374 votes
  • Undecided 6% 116 votes

1858 total votes.

Reader poll

Who was KU's first-half MVP against Temple?

  • Sherron Collins 71% 23 votes
  • Xavier Henry 9% 3 votes
  • Marcus Morris 12% 4 votes
  • Cole Aldrich 6% 2 votes
  • Other 0% 0 votes

32 total votes.

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Reader poll

How do you feel heading into today's game against Temple?

  • Extremely scared 9% 15 votes
  • Somewhat scared 22% 36 votes
  • Neither scared nor confident 16% 27 votes
  • Somewhat confident 41% 68 votes
  • Extremely confident 10% 17 votes

163 total votes.

GameDay Cram Session: Temple online editor Jesse Newell and Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan take a look at what to expect from the Kansas basketball team's matchup against Temple.

FINAL: KU defeats Temple, 84-52

C.J. Henry takes an ill-advised shot, pulling up for a 24-foot fadeaway that clanks away. Thomas Robinson gets the rebound, though, but he bricks the one-handed follow try. At a break, Self yells to him: “Thomas, two hands! Two hands!”

The Rock Chalk Chant starts with 2 1/2 minutes left, always an interesting sound on someone else’s home court.

Elijah Johnson puts in two free throws to put KU up 31, and Self empties his bench. Jeff Withey and Chase Buford check in.

Withey elevates for a block in the lane, and Chase Buford rips down a defensive rebound before getting fouled. He makes one of two free throws.

The Jayhawks run out the clock on a dominating 84-52 victory.

KU 74/Temple 48 — 3:39 left in game

Xavier Henry puts in a short shot with a whistle. After Xavier’s free throw, KU extends its lead to 28.

C.J. Henry gets free at the top of the lane, and he swishes the straight-on three. C.J. is now 10-for-17 (58.8 percent) from the three-point line this year.

Marcus Morris misses a baseline fadeaway, but Aldrich is there on the weak side for the offensive board and one-handed slam.

The Jayhawks are coming at the Owls from everywhere right now on the offensive glass. Xavier Henry misses, but Markieff Morris is there with sticky hands for the tough catch and stickback.

Self yells, “Take him! Take him!” to Collins from the sideline, and Collins does just that to his defender, using a pair of ankle-breaking crossovers to clear space before putting in a one-handed floater.

The most an opponent had scored on Temple all year was 70. At the last media timeout, KU has 74 already.

KU 60/Temple 35 — 7:51 left in game

Marcus Morris takes his man one-on-one, backing to his left shoulder before putting in a 5-footer.

Another miss by Temple, and the Owls haven’t scored in over five minutes. Brooks’ three over Collins was their last basket.

C.J. Henry checks into the game, and he gets in before Elijah Johnson's first action.

KU 58/Temple 35 — 10:22 left in game

Ryan Brooks hits a tough three right over the top of Collins, but Taylor answers with a drive and short shot off the glass.

Reed follows with a long three that swishes through, and Taylor extends the run with an 18-footer that falls in. Temple calls timeout, and it only has one left with KU extending its lead to 23.

Robinson manages a defensive possession without a foul, and after Reed misses a three, Robinson corrals the offensive rebound before trying to put up a shot. The big man travels, but Self — breaking out a big smile — taps Robinson on the backside and seems especially pleased with the effort.

KU 51/Temple 31 — 14:31 left in game

Morningstar draws some attention, then fires a nice pass over a defender to a cutting Xavier Henry for a layup.

Robinson puts his hand straight up defensively, but he picks up his third foul. He can’t breathe without getting a whistle right now. Self looks upset with the call as well.

KU 49/Temple 27 — 15:47 left in game

KU doesn’t start with the best second half offensively. Aldrich bangs a shot off the side of the backboard, and though Taylor is wide open crosscourt, Xavier Henry doesn’t even look at him before jacking up a guarded three that falls off.

Collins breaks the drought with a deep three, holding his follow-through up a few extra seconds.

Aldrich with a ferocious block, pinning a shot by Craig Williams against the glass before coming down with the rebound as well. The big man fires ahead to Taylor, who is fouled before making two free throws.

Collins draws two defenders before dumping on the baseline to Aldrich, who swings to the basket before throwing in a hard slam. Collins is playing his best offensive basketball of the year, not only scoring but making his teammates better.

Williams has a pass bounce off his head, and he decides not to hustle after the ball. Marcus Morris does, though, and he throws down an uncontested, one-handed slam. Timeout Temple, and Morris leaps up to back-bump Collins on the court.

KU scoring — Sherron Collins 9, Marcus Morris 9, Xavier Henry 8, Cole Aldrich 4, Brady Morningstar 3, Markieff Morris 3, Thomas Robinson 2, Tyshawn Taylor 2.

KU was 16-for-26 from the floor (61.5 percent), 3-for-4 from three (75 percent) and 5-for-6 from the free-throw line (83.3 percent).

Temple was 7-for-31 from the floor (22.6 percent), 4-for-16 from three (25 percent) and 5-for-6 from the free-throw line (83.3 percent).

KU had 19 rebounds to Temple’s 15. Both teams had three turnovers at half.

Some thoughts

• Wow, looking at those shooting percentages (KU at 62 percent, Temple at 23 percent), the Owls might be lucky to just be down 17 at half. By the way, Temple’s opponents had shot 33.3 percent from the floor against the Owls coming into this game.

• Only three first-half turnovers from KU. As I said before the game, that’s a huge stat, and credit to the Jayhawks for not having that many unforced turnovers in the opening 20 minutes.

• Didn’t it look like Marcus Morris settled down a bit after his three-point play? Following his two missed layups early, he responded with a good scoring line (9 points) in just 14 minutes.

• Juan Fernandez was just 1-for-9 from the floor in the first half and 1-for-5 from three-point range. Again, credit goes to Taylor, Reed and Morningstar for making it tough on him to get his shot up without interference.

KU 40/Temple 23 — Halftime

Tyrel Reed, not always known for his defense, fights hard through a screen to disrupt a Fernandez three. The shot falls off the rim, and KU comes down with the rebound.

Marcus Morris bursts for a quick move through the lane, putting in a layup under the goal.

Temple’s shot selection hasn’t been the best so far, as the Owls seem to be jacking up lots of bad threes. After two offensive rebounds, though, Lavoy Allen finally gets a baby hook to fall in the lane.

Aldrich has the ball knocked away inside, but he and Marcus Morris retrieve it under the basket. Aldrich follows with a tough fallaway that drops through, and KU has scored nearly at will against Temple’s tough D in the first half.

Marcus Morris executes well on Temple’s last offensive possession, staying with a Temple guard after a screen. The Owls follow with a lazy pass that is stolen away, and KU goes into the break with an impressive 17-point lead.

KU 36/Temple 21 — 2:39 left in 1st half

Luis Guzman drives to the basket, and he picks up a foul. He shoots Temple’s fifth and sixth free throws of the game already. Remember from our pregame notes, Temple only average 14.8 freebies per game, so the Owls might be on their way to more today.

Xavier Henry doesn’t have a defender follow him around a screen, so he calmly steps up to the line to swish a three-pointer.

Collins has an ugly pass go off the scoreboard, but Marcus grabs the carom and puts it off the rim for two.

Markieff Morris rips down a defensive rebound, and on the other end, Marcus Morris shows some toughness in throwing down a short shot for two.

Temple’s defense doesn’t follow Taylor, and he drives all the way to the rim for two. Temple coach Fran Dunphy calls his second timeout in the last two minutes, and KU has opened up a 36-21 lead with this 17-4 run.

KU 26/Temple 17 — 6:24 left in 1st half

Nice defense by Taylor on sharpshooter Rudy Fernandez, as the tight D forces an airball from the Temple guard.

Aldrich is allowing himself to get pushed around inside by Temple on the offensive end. Though the big man started with good position, he was shoved further to the baseline, and his ensuing shot was off.

The next possession, Taylor can’t stay with Fernandez, and the sophomore rings one up for three.

Marcus Morris sure looks nervous. He blows his second wide-open layup of the game.

Collins comes through with another short jumper, then steps in for his second steal of the game. It leads to transition for KU, and Morningstar cans an open three.

KU scrambles on the floor for a loose ball, and Marcus Morris finally comes up with it. He takes it straight to the rim for two, and he also draws a blocking call on the defender. From my vantagepoint, that looked like an easy charge call, and the Temple fans are going nuts at the call.

KU 19/Temple 14 — 10:23 left in 1st half

Aldrich rips down another defensive rebound, and it leads to a 2-on-1 break for KU. A bounce pass from Collins goes to Xavier Henry, and the freshman puts home a two-handed slam to the delight of the KU fans behind that basket.

Markieff Morris misses a free throw, and even down 9-3, the Temple fans won’t give up on the “Overrated” chant. Markieff makes the second free throw.

Temple’s offensive struggles have shown through early, as the Owls start just 1 of 10 from the floor.

Thomas Robinson checks in, and he puts in a short shot immediately after receiving a nice bounce pass inside from Brady Morningstar.

Xavier is hit on his way up for a three, and he hits all three of his ensuing free throws.

Robinson picks up two quick fouls, and Aldrich will check back in.

KU could be up more if it wasn’t missing easy shots. Taylor, Marcus Morris and Aldrich all have missed shots with four feet.

The Jayhawks nearly force a shot clock violation, but with one on the clock, forward Craig Williams threw in a three from about 26 feet. KU answers immediately, though, and Aldrich gets his baseline shot to roll in.

KU 7/Temple 3 — 15:59 left in 1st half

Sherron Collins anticipates a pass and picks off a steal on Temple’s first possession. The KU guard takes it all the way to the other end for an uncontested three.

Ryan Brooks answers with a three to give Temple its first lead.

KU has slowed its pace offensively so far, matching the deliberate play that the Owls want to have. Collins somehow keeps his dribble in the lane, and he puts up a high-arching shot off the glass for two.

Collins follows with a deep three from the left wing, and he screams out toward the Kansas bench. He has KU’s first seven points, and he’s fired up to boot.

KU has dominated the boards so far, as Temple is only getting one shot per possession because of the Jayhawks’ rebounding. KU leads the battle on the boards, 5-3, so far.

4:34 p.m. CST

Temple's fans turned their backs and chanted "Overrated" while KU's starting lineup was announced. Isn't it a little early for that?

4:27 p.m.

OK, I underestimated the KU following. It's at least 20 percent KU fans here, and possibly more. A loud "Let's Go Jayhawks" chant just rang across the floor. Maybe even this won't be a true road environment.

4:18 p.m. CST

Here are some additional notes about Temple, which comes into the game with an 11-2 record.

The Owls are used to slowing the pace down. They average 63 possessions per game, while the national average is 69 possessions per game. KU has not played a game with fewer than 65 possessions this season.

Temple is second in the nation in three-point defense, as opponents have made just 24 percent of their three-point tries against the Owls.

In Temple's 13 games, it has held the opponent to 50 points or less six times.

Temple averages only 10.5 turnovers per game.

• Senior guard Ryan Brooks leads Temple with a 15.8-point-per-game scoring average. He's scored at least 19 points in each of his last four games.

• Sophomore guard Ryan Fernandez is second on the team, averaging 14.3 points per game. He has made 32 of his 69 three-point attempts this year (46.4 percent). He also was at his best in Temple's upset of No. 3 Villanova on Dec. 13, scoring a career-high 33 points on 11-of-15 shooting (and 7-of-9 shooting from three-point range). I'd assume we'll see lots of Brady Morningstar on him.

3:58 p.m. CST

Let's get into some description of the Liacouras Center here on the Temple University campus.

The first thing that you notice walking in is the building isn't that old (despite what Marcus Morris might say).

The building has a fresh feel, with each of the 10,224 seats surrounding the court wearing Temple's maroon color.

Behind one basket, where the student section is located, there is no upper deck. In fact, there are only about 15 rows of seats behind that basket.

The ceiling isn't that high, because the arena isn't large or as "airy" as, for example, UCLA's Pauley Pavilion. That means, if Temple were to make a run, I would think the noise should reverberate easily, which would make this an extremely loud atmosphere.

There is good news for KU, and that is that there are quite a few KU fans in the arena. Blue shirts are splotched in seats around the building, and though there aren't as many Jayhawk fans here as there were in L.A., I'd still say that the KU contingent, at this point, makes up at least 10 percent of the fans here.

3:08 p.m. CST

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from the Liacouras Center in Philadelphia where the top-ranked Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the 18th-ranked Temple Owls.

This game will feature a battle of two of the best defenses in the nation. According to, KU is second in the nation in adjusted defensive efficiency, while Temple is seventh. Temple also is second in the nation in scoring defense, as teams have scored just 54.2 points per game against the Owls.

To me, this game will come down to the Jayhawks taking advantage of a pair of weaknesses that Temple has displayed so far.

Though the Owls are about as sound as a team can be defensively, there is one area where they don't thrive: turnovers. Temple only forces 12.3 turnovers per game. Opponents turn the ball over 19.3 percent of possessions, which is 247th nationally (NCAA average is 21.0 percent).

So one of the biggest keys for KU will be to follow that trend and not turn the ball over. It's going to be tough enough for the Jayhawks to score against Temple's stingy defense, but if the Jayhawks turn it over 15 or more times against a team that doesn't force many turnovers, they're asking for their first loss of the season.

Temple also struggles in another area: getting to the free-throw line.

The Owls average 14.8 free throws per game, which isn't a large number. They also have made just 63.7 percent of their free throws this year.

Obviously, this will be an emotional game played in front of a super-charged crowd. In these types of games on the road, the officiating can sometimes be inconsistent.

Still, KU can't afford to give a team that struggles offensively (and that normally doesn't shoot many free throws) too many free opportunities for points on the free-throw line.

While Temple should be KU's toughest opponent of the year, the biggest two keys for KU might just be playing well in areas that it definitely has an edge. Be sure to keep an eye on KU's offensive turnovers and also Temple's free-throw attempts in today's game.

Be sure to vote in the poll on the left, and also use #kubball to have your tweets appear on the left side of the page.

And, though I'm convinced now that no one reads this far down into the blog, I still feel obligated to put, password: phog in this spot so that I feel like I at least tried to tell everyone where the game was online.


melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

I wanted to be the first one to ask where I can find the game on line.

Jesse, you have any Cheesesteak?

This is going to be fun.

Jesse Newell 10 years, 5 months ago

melrank — Had a cheesesteak for lunch. We actually went downtown to where Gino's and Pat's was, but because it was so bitterly cold, we decided to go to a Cafe for our cheesesteak instead of waiting outside in the cold to make our order. I didn't realize that at the famous cheesesteak places are all walk-up places and not actually sit-down restaurants. It's in the 20s here, but winds out of the north are gusting to 30 mph, so it feels just like home ...

RedRed 10 years, 5 months ago

Jesse - -

Don't complain that its cold as it is 10 degrees in in Overland Park ... with a low tonight of 8 !!

kusayzone 10 years, 5 months ago

This game is just that--one game. You play to win the game and if the Hawks are not ready then Temple will show them up! But honestly, I dont think this game will be close....what I think will happen is we will see a very focused KU team and a glimpse into the future! Realistically, there are games when you can not beat an inferior opponent. Hopefully the law of averages wont tilt heavily in one way!

K_Easthouse 10 years, 5 months ago

Should be a good game, and don't worry, Jesse, a cheesesteak in Philly is still a cheesesteak in Philly, even if it doesn't come from Gino's.

I'm fairly confident about this game. I like how our team responded when an Alcorn State assistant coach tried to talk trash, and this team has been reading the gift-wrapped board material for a couple weeks now. I'm waiting for an alley-oop to Cole to start the whole game off.

Jesse Newell 10 years, 5 months ago

RedRed — I know. I wasn't complaining. Single digits is single digits. Thirty-mile-an-hour north wind isn't fun either.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

speaking for myself jesse, I always read all of your blog until the game starts. I think after that point (for the most part) your blog would be better served interacting with the fan discussion rather than posting summaries that are way behind to anyone who is watching the game and providing insight into things not necessarily seen by viewing audience. Regardless, I enjoy the blog though.

RedRed 10 years, 5 months ago

Here is what to expect in the next few days of Kansas City weather. Looks like snow is coming and with the wind chill it will be quite cold here in K.C. and Lawrence. Hurry back and bring some of that 20 degree weather with you.

TONIGHT: Periods of snow. Low around 8. Wind chill values between -2 and 3. East northeast wind around 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

SUNDAY: A chance of snow. Cloudy and cold, with a high near 15. Wind chill values between -1 and 6. East northeast wind around 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

SUNDAY NIGHT: A slight chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 5. North northeast wind between 3 and 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

RedRed 10 years, 5 months ago

My 2 cents ... Jesse does a GREAT Job and adds substantially to the information we receive. Thanks, Jesse !!

Jesse Newell 10 years, 5 months ago

chuck — Thanks for the comments/suggestions. We've talked some about changing the format, but there are always pros and cons each way. Some fans are watching the game with the blog, while some can't see the game and are looking for more details than what they can find from an updating ESPN box score. Speaking for myself, I'd like to have the blog more chat-like once the game begins, but it's an innovation that might be a bit down the road.

JamesA 10 years, 5 months ago

Does anyone know who is calling the game for espn 2?

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

jesse, I think that the needs of anyone not able to see the game should definitely come first, but with the JTV games over and most of the rest on the espn family, 99% of fans should be able to watch.

laceyhall13 10 years, 5 months ago


Do you have any insight as to why Tyshawn Taylor switched from the number 15 from last year?

SoCalAlum 10 years, 5 months ago

Temple hasn't played a team that has both the defense and offense KU has shown to date. They're average at best offensively. I'm sure the coaching staff will put a blanket on Fernandez. They do defend the three-pt well, but play man-to-man...let's see how long that works out for them. It should be a great game of two teams with similar styles but KU should have too much for them to handle even in their own gym. They played us close last year so today's outcome may go down to the last eight minutes or so. RCJH!

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Jesse - thanks for the fan interaction before the game.

Although I usually watch the game and find it difficult to read the updates while posting and watching, I think that the updates are critical for the fans who can't watch the game.

Darrel Stice 10 years, 5 months ago

KU 73, Temple 68

kupark, seriously?! And what exactly makes you think we are gonna get throttled that bad? We haven't shown ourselves to be a team that just lays down in a tough game.

Here are my top reasons why we will prevail:

1.) The Morris twins will be pumped to be playing in their back yard. 2.) TT is playing close to home and has friends and family in attendance. 3.) Sherron is always up for a big game. 4.) Cole Aldrich - enough said 5.) X is due for a breakout game. 6.). All the rest of the 'hawks who are ready to show we they deserve the #1 ranking!

Is it game time yet, I'm ready!!! RCJHGKU!!!!!!

Jesse Newell 10 years, 5 months ago

chuck — True on the availability of those games, but part of the value of the blog is the immediacy. Though there aren't a ton of examples, I'm sure there are some people (maybe work?) that want to know what is going on right now but can't pull up a video on their computers. Again, not saying they are in the majority, but it's another group of people to think about.

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 5 months ago

kupark: I can't see that many total points being scored in this game, no matter who comes out on top. It's more likely to be a grinder.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

jesse, perhaps if the format changed so that your updates were on the left side and comments (most recent at the top) were on the right then you'd be able to both update game action and participate in conversation.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Wow, I wonder if I could get 15 from kupark. That's going out on a limb.

Denver - for several of the reasons you're suggesting we should do well, I'm a little worried for similar reasons. We might have not been focused in the last 24 hours with friends and family. Sherron might come out a little too jacked up and try to put everything on his shoulders (see Johnny Flynn). With something to prove, could we play out of character a little?

Maybe? Nah.

Hawks - 65 Temple - 58

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

to continue above point, this would make it easier for the readers/viewers to see everything you post. because comments are at the bottom (currently) and the page usually gets pretty long, it becomes inconvenient for us to keep scrolling up and down

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 5 months ago

I see that Marquette and Nova are playing a very close game. It's 61-62 at 6:40. Why does that always happen to our games. If they go into overtime we'll miss most of the first half on TV. Thank heaven for Bob and Chris.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Louisville - Kentucky tied at 41 with 10:19 remaining.

Go Cards!

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Chuck - on Justin TV they have a way of posting that is similar to instant messaging and it's almost instantaneous. It's nice since you don't have to keep refreshing all the time. I'm not sure what that technology is called, but it seems to be an improvement.

Rodney Stice 10 years, 5 months ago

I must be overly confident. I feel that KU will clamp down on defense against temple. KU 62 Temple 45

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

Mel, good point. but that would be a drastic coding change instead of a minor formatting change.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Coding change, smoding change!

What's a coding change?

Just joking (sorta).

Let's go Marquette - no overtime.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

love to see marquette win this but as long as it doesn't go OT who cares.

gchawk 10 years, 5 months ago

kupark. Any wagers on your prediction or are you just trying to stir up the "faithfuls"?

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

temple seems awfully full of themselves...

let's kick some butt!


melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Jesse - we are relying on you. Nova can't make FTs.

CrimsonPhoenix 10 years, 5 months ago

The "overrated" comments piss me off. I'd love to just blow Temple out.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


FYI, it's 70 degrees in Southern California. I was working in my yard in a T-Shirt this morning. And some kids are swimming in the pool down the street. :-)

Enjoy the game.

Rock Chalk.

Joe Joseph 10 years, 5 months ago

I'm hedging my bet and taking Temple to cover the spread. Hopefully KU wins... just not by more than 6 points.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaang it.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

big game, sherron taking control. I think that's a key for us. Cole is doing pretty good on the boards early on. time to start pounding it inside.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

The "soft" comment served it's purpose. We look focused so far.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

silly foul sherron. make these guys hit some shots before we foul a jump shooter.

chriz 10 years, 5 months ago

anyone know where i can watch this online?

Joe Joseph 10 years, 5 months ago

Can't give em second chances! Too many offensive rebounds for Temple the last couple times down the court.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

Already perhaps TRob's best game. Man he's going to be sooooo good.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

chriz, password phog

Theutus 10 years, 5 months ago

The offensive rebounds temple is getting are simply because of lucky bounces off the rim...

What is the deal with Robinson and officials though... They always call the most knick-knack fouls on him.... Really sucks.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

i think we're seeing the answer to the poll question of whose minutes will go up the most. answer, TRob.

chriz 10 years, 5 months ago

thanks chuck but there's nowhere to type the password

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Agree, chuck. However, TRob's gotta avoid the freshman mistakes -- i.e. ticky-tack reach in 30 feet from the hoop on a big man. If he avoids the fouls, he's gonna light up this game. They can't handle his strength + speed. He's a huge double threat against the Owls.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Robinson is getting better on the boards but he is getting picky fouls!

chriz 10 years, 5 months ago

found it... it says cinci vs rutgers but they're playing the ku game

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

marcus is going up week and missing. giving me deja vu from last year.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

that was a lucky bad play. should've been offensive foul.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

We got lucky on that series.

Maybe this will help the Twins settle down and get going.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

Anyone else feel like they put the camera in the back row of the upper deck?

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

also, i get the sense that this is going to be another game where X disappears. He has the talent and body to go NBA after one year, but he has to learn to make himself relevant first.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago


could have gone either way--Big 12 officiating crew--that helps! That was sure an ugly possession, but we'll take it!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


Kief has looked very good. Marcus is the one looking nervous/a bit off. Hope the and 1 (lucky though it was) settles him down a bit.

These guys are gonna keep coming at us. Need to avoid the stupid turnovers (as that outlet pass almost was) and can't let down. At any point.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

no doubt mike, will definitely take it. Scoreboard doesn't yet reflect that we are really beating their brains out. Two lucky threes for them and a bunch of missed bunnies for us.

johnsont1 10 years, 5 months ago

jesse-is this game on xm? I'm headed to chicago and can't find it!

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Got lucky again! Sometimes gotta have a little luck!

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

Wow, insightful, the Jayhawks are fun to be around.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

We are simply shredding this defense right now.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Deep bench is coming thru for us already in the 1st Half!!!

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

I think our depth is really taking it's toll right now.

Temple looks tired. We've played 9 guys, they just played 7 & 8 and they don't look very good.

Keep up the intensity and pressure, Hawks.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

Temple may be a figment of the east coast media's imagination.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

They're forcing a lot. We are pressuring well. I think our D may be a little better than we all give them credit for......

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Broadcast comments:

Yes, the camera position stinks.

These announcers aren't the greatest in the world, but they seem to be KU Homers so what's not to love?

Darrel Stice 10 years, 5 months ago

Temple: "Bring on Kansas!!"

Did we come at a bad time?! Keep on rockin' Jayhawks!!!!

Kent Wells 10 years, 5 months ago


As always, thank you for the blog.

Does Aldrich have 20 boards now? Dang!

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 5 months ago

Yep, looks like we could run out on every transition if we wanted.

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years, 5 months ago

I hope Lavoy Allen bought a permit - he's camping out in the lane.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Condor is certainly looking more active the last 2 games.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

Cole is a man among boys on those boards.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

good half. Don't let up on 'em in the second!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Just noticed for those looking to watch online that it is being broadcast on ESPN 360.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Temple doesn't even get a shot off to end the half!!!! SWEET!!!!!!!! Keep it up Hawks!! No letup!!!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


Cole has 2 blocks.

Going out on a limb, but I have a feeling we will be above Temple's 59 defensive scoring average....

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

What was great about that half is that they seemed all business. No crazy emotions, just get out there kick their a** and head home. This looks like the number 1 team in the country right now.

Now they need to keep the foot on the throat and play the 2nd half better than the first.

NH_JHawk 10 years, 5 months ago

We're scary good when we play well on both ends. WOW! Easily the best half of hoops by the Jayhawks this season! I hope we win big so we can silence all the "Texas deserves the #1 spot" critics. Are you reading this, Keegan?

Tony Bandle 10 years, 5 months ago

KU has it's heel on the Temple Owl's neck...don't let up and don't go into a shell. Continue the pressure at both ends and this game will be a 20+ blowout.

God, I hope we get to play street ball...will collapse under pressure of swarming "D"....Wall could be turned into a turnover machine against us!!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


Agree. When Tyshawn is your second leading rebounder, you've got some adjustments to make.....

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Those are some sick stats for us: 62% from field, 75% from 3, and 83% from the line.

22% from the field for Temple won't help their average much, either.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

soobawls - please excuse my involuntary reaction when I first saw your avatar. That was very complimentary. Thanks.

kusayzone 10 years, 5 months ago

ok- a great 1st half.. Now comes the Coach speak. Dont get full of yourselves, the three point basket is still a viable threat for Temple to get back in the game. Defense will still win this ballgame if there is help defense. Sherron is playing a solid game and everyone seems to be in a groove. If this is what Coach BS calls an NCAA tourney type game, then we will see the focus continue and unfortunately for Temple, they caught KU on a bad day.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


Is that really you? Or did someone hack your login info?? That's not the usual insanely negative, "Fire Bill Self," trolling posts that we've all come to laugh at from you. What's up, man? Is this your New Year's resolution?

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 5 months ago

For one of the first times this year I felt that any of the 5 on the floor could score if needed. And was impressed by each of the 5 on floor with the defense. Felt like each guy was trying to lock down their man.

Lonnie Ross Dillon 10 years, 5 months ago

Regarding the Morris layup that looked like a charge... remember the new rule change that doesn't allow charges under the basket.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 5 months ago

Collins' has great rotation on his shot today.

Kent Wells 10 years, 5 months ago

Is that a block and a rebound!?! Awesome!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Wow. Temple just quit. That's embarrassing....

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

The Morris's must lead the country in missed layups. I'm not sure how both are making 55-60% of their shots.

NH_JHawk 10 years, 5 months ago

If Marcus could just hit a few layups then we'd be blowing them out. Oh, wait a minute....

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

really looking like the number 1 team. have to check the books but this could be the hardest road game that any of the unbeatens have played so far.

too bad about Ten. as they will probably suspend a bunch of their players before our game.

Big12 looks disgustingly good so far and should be a tough challenge for us.

milwaukeeJAYHAWK 10 years, 5 months ago

hey, is there an online feed still? does anyone know the link?

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Is 62% shooting in the 1st Half good enough for those naysayers? For those who though Cole wasn't being aggressive yet in the season, you have your answer in this game!!!!

CaramelMacchMan 10 years, 5 months ago

If ya all know, Mr. Tom Keegan predicated 2 point win by Temple... Just saying! Getting out there.

Theutus 10 years, 5 months ago

Another bad foul called against TRob...

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

this is a very important time in the game. We can't get soft and let them start cutting into this lead. keep our foot on the accelerator and don't let up!

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

keegan is all about bringing us down this year. perhaps he thinks he is helping to motivate them?

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

"Can temple fight their way back into this game?" "It all depends on what happens on this end (the Jayhawks) of the floor" What brilliant analysis.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

5/8 vs 5/24 from the arc. lol

lesson of the day is don't anger this team before we even get to the gym.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

KU still shooting hot--61%!!! Keep it Hawks!!!!

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago


What are your feelings about Sherron Collins this year??

remember we fought about how good is last year?

Well...I for one ....think he is even better!!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Today, this is the best team in basketball.

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago


Careful what you wish for!

Ouch. Not even a game.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Collins is a leader--he is having a great game!

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

This is a clinic. Don't let up, KU. Beat them by 30!!!

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

feels liked we've missed a dozen layups.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 5 months ago

Taylor really seems to have that runner high off the glass perfected.

kusayzone 10 years, 5 months ago

Coach BS has taken the air out of the ball

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 5 months ago

We may not beat them by 30. Self is telling the guys we have the lead we need, now close out with D-E-F-E-N-S-E.

David Leathers 10 years, 5 months ago

Rock Chalk.... This is great. I can't wait to see WildCatsOne's comments, if he still has enough juevos to say we aren't number one.

But, if he is to come and say anything, I would like to give him a compliment:

John Wall is AMAZING... I must say. That kid can play some basketball. He is every bit of Derrick Rose and so much more.

BUT... They don't have 10 players on their team that can play at the level we do in a particular scheme.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Chuck --

We want to save some points for Tennessee--30 points is good!

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

Whoever said it....great point. I wonder the east coast sports media will spin this embarassment. They will come up with some excuse.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Stat oddity - only one of our 9 guys to have played is shooting less than 50%.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

CJ's three was one of the prettiest shots i've seen in awhile.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

another missed layup. makes me cringe

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years, 5 months ago

Tennessee's players will be in jail, rehab, or the morgue by the time we play 'em.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

yeah pure and super quick. has he jumped ahead of elijah?

Theutus 10 years, 5 months ago

Kennethst, i love Collins this year... He's always had the physical ability, but this year he is playing smart....

I have no complaints about him at all, nothing but praise. Especially considering he was so willing to become the unselfish assist leader that he is. I would have thought he'd have issues giving up the ball getting so many shots last season.

Anyway, nothing but praise here!

Kent Wells 10 years, 5 months ago


Refers to the 5 Philly schools. Temple, LaSalle, St. Joes, Pennsylvania and one that escapes me at the moment, but you get the idea.

RokChlk 10 years, 5 months ago


I believe a big 5 team is one of the 5 teams in the philladelphia area like villanova, la salle, temple, penn... I cant remember what the last one is

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago


Good to see you on here.....and we agree 100%!!

Great game, huh?

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

We could have started the Rock Chalk a half hour ago!!

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Let's see-- Kentucky struggles with Louisville. Texas barely survives against Texas A&M--CC. I wonder who is STILL #1. KEEGAN, IF YOU ARE READING THIS, NEWSFLASH--JAYHAWKS ARE #1. I dare you to vote Texas #1!!! I dare you!!!

bballdiehard 10 years, 5 months ago

Cole has his double double, we're up nearly 30 points, less than 4 minutes to go... time to give Withey another opportunity to become accustomed to playing with the team.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

I'll admit I didn't know a thing about CJ before seeing him play for the jayhawks but he has me really excited about our future.

Theutus 10 years, 5 months ago

Fantastic game... The best part is the defense though. We really hounded them on the defensive end....

A couple more games like this, and our guys get into a groove and find out that it truly is defense that wins games... The offense will follow.

Gotta love it.

Lonnie Ross Dillon 10 years, 5 months ago

Philly has 5 teams (St Josephs, Villanova, Temple, Penn, and...???) but that's who they are referring to

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

the texas game is surprising. don't be doubting that ky is really good. Wall can probably win them some games by himself. they are very young though.

Ben Kane 10 years, 5 months ago

he missed that one....but his shot looks sooooo good.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago


Rock Chant is very loud!!! Your homeboy, Pee Wee Herman, would be proud!

Great win, Jayhawks!!!!

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

Is Temple this bad or is Kansas this good????

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

I like watching EJ at the point and CJ at the 2 during mop up minutes. Explosive.

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

Temple......still calling for Kansas???

Don't think their fans will be storming the court!

Sorry Temple.....You're not playing Villanova....You're playing KANSAS!!!!!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


Right now, today, KU is the best team in basketball.

Certainly one can say that Temple did not shoot well (they absolutely did not), but when team after team has an "off" shooting night against us, one must start giving credit to the defense. We are a very good defensive team.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

KU won the boards big time today and plus, with their defense, they played fantastic!!!! KU WINS!!!!

NH_JHawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Mr. Keegan,

You still think Texas is #1? Hard to argue against a 32 pt. victory on the road vs. a ranked opponent.

waywardJay 10 years, 5 months ago

wow.... only words for that performance were.... Wow.

kusayzone 10 years, 5 months ago

Texas struggles.....who is the rightful #1 this week.....look for unanimous this week!!!!!

MrPilot 10 years, 5 months ago

THAT is what I like to see! Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

waywardJay 10 years, 5 months ago

kennetth we just made our first really good team ....look really really bad... hopefully alot more to come.

jaybate 10 years, 5 months ago

I'll just paste my pregame forecast from this morning...

Game Forecast:

Kansas 85 Temple 55

Raison d'être: Self, knowing he no longer has to rev KU up to peak for UTenn (4 starters suspended indefinitiely), will rev KU to redline for Temple instead and KU will smash them.

And having built Temple up as a great challenge, it will put some serious swagger in KU to blow them out.

Swagger has to be infused soon to be ready for the conference season, which will toughen KU plenty for the Madness.

Likely as not, Self will bring the revs down to half of redline for what remains of the University of Tennessee gun and drug club.

Self, the master of taking what is given, will capitalize on this turn of events in Knoxville. He will get KU up against Temple, play casual against UTenn, and be ready to enter the conference with a rev up.

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

Little Temple just found out what it's like playing the #1 team.


kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

Jaybate nailed this!

Well Done....jaybate!

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

Jaybate, well done. Reading your post this morning, I thought that it was a possibilty, but not likely. Good call.

MrPilot 10 years, 5 months ago

kupark (anonymous) says...

Temple 83, KU 60

kupark (anonymous) says...

...and that's not a typo

Is it too early to award the "Most Asinine Comment of the Year" medal?

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

KUPark....was that really your prediction???

What were you thinking?

jhokfan 10 years, 5 months ago

I think Temple fans were not referring to KU when they chanted "overrated". They were actually referring to the no. 18 Owls. I'm pretty sure they won't be rated 18 on the next poll hence the chant.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

MrPilot - if you read the board enough, you'll find stuff that will blow that away.

RedRed 10 years, 5 months ago

MrPilot - -

Give "kupark" the medal !! You got my Vote ... " Of The Year !! "

gchawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Jaybate. Great call. My question is, where is "kupark"?? He "just" missed by a mere 55 points. My guess is he is either fleeing the country or getting a bank loan to pay off his bets.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

I'll go out on a very fat sturdy limb and predict CJ will be back next year with something to prove with or without Xavier.

Hell of a game on both ends.

The owls got turned into plucked chickens.

Bring on the big 12!

kureader 10 years, 5 months ago

... waiting to see if Keegan, our local sportswriter and self-proclaimed basketball expert, still votes for Texas over Kansas next week.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 5 months ago

Jesus H. Christ, soobawls...I swear. You could find a cloud on a cloudless day!!!

East Coast hot air exposed today...down goes Temple, down goes Syracuse!!

What I loved best about the game [besides the score] was the almost business-like fashion in which the Hawks took Temple apart.

It was like watching a skilled was like watching a master assasin cooly and coldly track, set up and eliminate his target. I think a lot of teams on our schedule saw this game and left their screens with huge lumps in their throats!!!!!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


I do not say this often, but... hat's off to you, my friend. Nice prediction. And you did it in less than 3000 words to boot!! ;-)


Certainly a nominee. Soobawls still holds the trophy, however, for Most Asinine Comment in the History of Collegiate Athletics with this gem:

Yes, that's soobawls calling KU "highly overrated" and busts out the good ol' "Fire Self" nugget. And, yes, that was in the middle of our National Championship season.


Blake Brown 10 years, 5 months ago

Interesting to see CJ on the floor before Elijah. Speaking of Elija, what quick moves he has with the ball as well as on defense- great feet. Thomas is learning the hard way and will be a force with some finesse blended in to his incredible energy and talent. The twins are already a force on both ends. Great win. ROCK CHALK!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago


"What I loved best about the game [besides the score] was the almost business-like fashion in which the Hawks took Temple apart."

Couldn't agree more. See my post above. Said almost exactly the same thing at half time.

Great minds, and all that....

okiedave 10 years, 5 months ago

Heard that Tennessee has suspended four of their basketball players indefinitely for illegal possession of a firearm found in their car after being stopped and found to be driving a rental car paid rented by a booster.

melrank 10 years, 5 months ago

1bighawkfan - I'm not sure what to think of the Elijah situation other than he just doesn't bring it enough in practice to break into the rotation. He does seem to possess some unusual quickness. CJ certainly provides some instant offense, though.

IF TRob improves as much as Cole and the Twins did from their FR year to their SO year, he will be amazing next year. Maybe Collison, Simien, Gooden type of amazing if he gives us 3 years.

okiedave 10 years, 5 months ago

ooops -- paid and rented by a booster.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

Can we just get to the Texas game already?! Enough of these warmup games.
I think the 'problem' with this team this year is they've been bored with the competition. Understandably they got up for todays game and showed us what they can do against a team good enough to beat the #3 team in the country.

jaybate 10 years, 5 months ago

What we learned from this game:

--Self has been running the team in the equivalent of operating Windows in "safe mode" in all previous games of the season. In none of the previous games of the season has he amped the team, nor run it in run it in standard mode to see what it could really do. Today, running in standard mode, against a team with no answer for Cole, KU annihilated Temple without even resorting to playing any wreak havoc defense.

--There was one other driver than standard mode operation, Cole, and Temple's lack of a true center to contain Cole, that precipated this blow out. It was 50% trifectation. Most everyone was warm, but no one was blazing hot.

--C.J. Henry again stood out on the floor, but also revealed why he's having so much trouble cracking into a glue role among the first eight. His defense is not yet steady. He is a gambler by nature, and Self probably loves this about him, as Self likes to gamble himself. The difference between them is: Self likes to gamble from a baseline of zero mistakes. C.J. just swings between very good gambling defense to getting burned and back again. C.J. could really add something huge to the team. He has more swagger in his little finger than the rest of the team has combined. But he has to gamble a little less on defense, so that he can stop getting burned.

--If the game were only played on offense, The Prophet would be a starter already. He is just going to be a wonderful guard next year, and likely a great one in two. But his defense just isn't there. He hasn't figured his spacing and his angles out yet. He is much farther behind on defense that even I thought he was. But when he gets the hang of defense, he's just going to be a fabulous point guard. And here I had relegated him to the 2. Wrong!

--Tyrel rediscovered his game today, and lucky for him. Tyrel in the game? Steadiness and threes. The Prophet and the game? Speed, flash and mistakes.

--Brady? One of his clinics in floor game and defense, without scoring. Thank heavens he is back. Someone who can guard someone on the perimeter without making it look like defense is a necessary evil. He is positively graced with defensive ability.

--Sherron? Once again the spine of the team. Self has set his tachometer to about 3000 rpm right now. His redline is 6000 rpm.

jaybate 10 years, 5 months ago

--KU played good Self Defense, but a strip to TO ratio of 5:10 proves Self did not release the dogs today. The wreak havoc level of defensive intensity is probably being saved for the first big conference game, or UTenn, if Pearl should reinstate his Top 4 guns and druggers.

--Take Cole out of the game and KU could not control Temple at all. Inference: Withey is the only truly feasible answer down the stretch, or KU is going to get hurt badly on a night when Cole is fouled up.

--Withey, though held out to the very end, looked 100 percent more comfortable today than his first game. He didn't do much, but he got a board and a block, and ran the floor comfortbably. There are going to be enough blow outs along the way that he get his minutes and will give Cole's a crucial ten minute backup game sometime during the Madness.

--Thomas Robinson cannot control his own shadow center, but he is going to be a whale of a 4 next year.

--The Twins played with the bounce and energy and competitiveness that everyone has been waiting for them to show, since the addition of the couturier muscle mass from Haute Hudy. If they were to play this hard and well each game, KU would be almost unbeatable. Self gave each of them a well-deserved hand shake late and they seemed genuinely respectful and like two young players that just walked through the doorway to manhood. My hat is tipped to the Morrises for hanging tough until this day.

Great demonstration. Go Hawks!

Jayhawksrule2009 10 years, 5 months ago

stupidmichael (anonymous) says...I'm scared.

That just shows that your not a True Kansas Jayhawks fan

MrPilot 10 years, 5 months ago

Did anyone notice the little blurb they did during the game about some behind the scenes deal about the Jayhawks on the road? Is that online or will it be broadcast?

TRUEHEART 10 years, 5 months ago

Well, Temple. So much for chanting "bring on Kansas". How's that working out for ya?

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago


Be patient--Texas game is Feb. 8th. I say that the game in Manhattan, Jan. 30th, will be challenging. Not wanting to look ahead for any game, but the K-State game could be tough. On the other hand, K-State opens Big 12 play at Columbia, to play the Tiggers, on Jan. 9th. Mizzou is 9-0 at home, so far, this year. Let the Conference play begin!!!!!!

AsadZ 10 years, 5 months ago

I just got back from the game. Man - What an atomosphere. It seemed like the game was being played in Phog on the East Coast. Great suppport from East Coast Fans. Go Jayhawaks.

minnhawk84 10 years, 5 months ago

Let me quote my post from this morning (in advance of Jaybate's):

"Oh yea of little faith.....Kansas by 12 against a decent team, but in the end, Temple isn't as good as you have hyped them into being. Roll Hawks roll."

Sorry I missed calling the blowout, but KEEP THE FAITH Jayhawk Nation. These guys can play ball if given a reason.

didjabuti 10 years, 5 months ago

Has anyone looked at the shedule page? It's showing a loss for today's game. Didn't they follow jesse's blog? :)

TwistedFish31 10 years, 5 months ago

My guess is that, Keegan, will drop KU down to 3rd after this so-so performance.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago


You're more twisted than "Twisted Sister," that rock group I used to listen to!

4jhawks4ku 10 years, 5 months ago

Now Keegan has to eat Crow ( after he finishes his third philly cheesteak, that is). Keegan, admit you were terribly wrong in your next article or you become completely unbelievable.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago

Happy that Keegan isn't an odds maker in Vegas because people would be losing a lot of money, and, like you said 4jhawks4ku, he would become completely unbelievable. Jimmy Dykes, one of my favorite announcers on ESPN, has been with the Jayhawks since Day 1. I believe Jimmy Dykes--I doubt that I will ever take Keegan seriously---seriously!

kansasbasketball 10 years, 5 months ago

you guys are looking forward to this tenessee game next sunday and we have a really good cornell team coming up on wensday! my biggest concern is we will be looking forward to tenessee and not this good cornell team! but a nice win

rock chalk

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago


Man, I was thinking the same thing. I was going to say that Cornell is 12-2 and a possible letdown might be possible. You beat me to the punch. However, it won't happen because of the number "50." 50 in a row, going on 51 straight at home--cozy AFH. Go Hawks!

unelectable 10 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for including the opposing coach's press conference. It's nice to hear what the other side thought.

mwilliam 10 years, 5 months ago

Mr. Pilot, the "special" on KU travel exploits will be broadcast on ESPN on Tuesday, Jan 5.

Robert Lofthouse 10 years, 5 months ago

Just got home from the Temple. What a game! Saw about as much crimson and blue as that cranberry color. It was (sic) fun to see the Philly faithful begin to leave during the half time festivities. This Jayhawk team is a pure joy to watch, and Sherron [among others] was on his game - left his defender in the dust! Wish we could attend more of their clinics.

MrPilot 10 years, 5 months ago

Thank you, mwilliam.

And wow, soobawls, I'm sure Coach Self (389-145 (.728)) would be very relieved to know you think he's improved "in the area of X's and O's" enough that he can keep his job. What exactly was your Division I coaching record again? I didn't catch that...

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

Kansas is the winningest team this decade, albeit tied with many others!

chriz 10 years, 5 months ago

Soobawls, do you realize you're the only one in the country who believes that Self should be fired (except for MU fans...wait, are you an MU fan)? What's your deal? Were you bitter the year that KU lost to Bucknell and your former man-crush, Roy Williams, proceeded to win the title? And what's with the Davidson crap? What was so wrong with almost losing to Davidson? Did they not tear through some pretty impressive teams en route to ALMOST beating KU? Not beating, but ALMOST beating KU?

I'm no psychologist, but it sounds like you have a tendency to put too much into people's names and reputations and have no regard for circumstances.

Here's how you see it: Self's not Roy. KU lost to Bucknell. And Bradley. They almost lost to Davidson. Temple? They're nothing since John Chaney left. They haven't played any familiar teams yet. (Although that doesn't explain why you dismiss wins against UCLA, Cal, Michigan, and Memphis. Good thing I'm not a psychologist!)

trueblue9 10 years, 5 months ago

I like Soobawls, he breaks up the monotony of all of the overanxious popsicle lickers. Dang, probalby just branded myself "not a real ku fan".

jaybate 10 years, 5 months ago


Whenever you amp a team, even just to 3/4s as we saw today, the next game will see a fall off and a team like Cornell can be a problem.

But Self really could not wait any longer to take the team out for a live test.

He and the players had to see what the team could actually do at least once before the conference season started. The plan was clearly a small build starting with Temple, a plateau with Cornell, and then a peak performance against UTenn. But when UTenn turned into the Volunteer Drug and Gun Club the plan had to be junked. Self opted for a 3/4 amp to blow out Temple, so he could play a ton of players and keep the team rested for Cornell.

Cornell likely will not be a blow out, because Self will not amp the team, but again, quite a few guys will play to continue to get them better.

The Boolean Logic for UTenn is simple.

If Pearl sustains suspensions, then practice game, else amp to 4/4's and crush.

Because Pearl is in a suddenly desperate situation, there is an outside chance he will reinstate the 4 guns and druggers for the KU game.


Because the damage to UTenn for the arrests is already irreversible, and because he is now exposed to be running a slimy program, he is a cornered rat. He can't really win any more respect for sustaining the suspensions. But he might squeeze a huge win out of his jail bait foursome and buy himself some good will from the win at any cost Pearl supporters that have enabled him to create the gun and drug millieu at UTenn. Therefore, playing KU with armed junkies might make strategic and tactical sense to Pearl, despite the indignation it would trigger.

I believe Self was smart to only amp KU to 3/4s for Temple and hold the blowout to 30 points, simply because he might have to deal with a UTenn Vol armed junky team, instead of a team missing four of its starters.

Regardless, KU is in a very good position to move forward, however things unfold in Knoxville.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 5 months ago

The "Rock Chalk Jayhawk" chant sounded even better at Temple than it did at Pauley.

Now, what I want is to hear it from Austin!

If the chant is started in Knoxville, it could resemble that scene from "Inglorious Basterds" where everybody has pulled their guns in that tavern and a massacre insues. We'll just have to be low key there.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 5 months ago


It is surprising that KU doesn't get any (more) foreign players for their program. I don't know if your question was rhetorical or not, but Sasha Kahn played his HS ball in Florida after he and his Mom moved to the Sunshine State from Russia. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, though. Kahn was a great find and he was a big piece to winning the Championship in San Antonio!

KU 10 years, 5 months ago

jaybate.....Nice call on the score. Even Coach Self said in his post-game presser that he thought it would be 65-60.

I didn't appreciate the announcers doing KU a recruiting disservice while musing that a great athlete like EJ is relegated to mop-up minutes. Wow, that kid is going to be special at the point. I said a couple of weeks ago, he's really our only true (and best) point guard. Excellent court vision; can get in the lane and distribute or score; very unselfish; fantastic speed and a motor to run the break even if it doesn't appear to be there. I don't think his defense is that big of a liability but he certainly has room to improve it. I think the reason he doesn't play a ton of minutes yet is exemplified in the play where he threw a pass into the corner to nobody with no pressure on him. He still has momentary brain cramps that Self won't tolerate because he values every possession.

Are we still listing CJ at 6'4"? He's clearly 6'1". If he were 6'4" he would have a chance to be a great 2 guard next year. He's got a quick enough release on his jumper to overcome his height deficiency, but he won't be quite long enough to handle real physical 6'5 or 6'6 shooting guards on the defensive end.

Our defensive rebounding was just what the doctor ordered. We did give up 13 offensive boards, but it seemed that half of them came in bunches on about 2 or 3 possessions where Temple got 2-4 opportunities--mainly because they were shooting a lot of 3-pointers with long rebounds.

Kit Duncan 10 years, 5 months ago


To continue your line... Coach Self is 7th in active coaches' Tournament victories with a 24-10 record, .706 avg. If Soobawls thinks KU can find a better coach he is sadly mistaken as I suspect the other 6 are pretty well spoken for.


I think you misunderstood the announcers. I believe they were praising the depth of the team when a player of EJ's caliber is only allowed in when the game is no longer in doubt. That's not a slam at his ability, it's a prop to the other players ahead of him. I think they mentioned Self's difficulty in sharing minutes among all the talented players.

Paula Unseth 10 years, 5 months ago


As a former KU FEMALE letter winner and scholarship recipient who follows ALL Kansas sports avidly. You are such a disgrace to the KU nation! I hate to even bring mention to your stupidity! I'm 99% sure you've never been put in the competitive atmosphere that these athletes and COACHES deal with on a daily basis. If I wasn't entirely sure that you posted this for reaction only(which makes you even more stupid) I would come right through this computer and bit@h slap you!!

kennethst 10 years, 5 months ago

Oh awnry rascal! I don't think you're serious, though.

Anyway.....Just about to have my first Scotch of the evening.....why is that it tastes so much better after a great win like today!

Sure....Temple was obviously overrated.....but go on the road and win by 32 is really impressive to say the least.

Great win today!

Dan Harris 10 years, 5 months ago

Sooballs- It's quite apparent that your just a poor pathetic Mizzu fan

Scott Smetana 10 years, 5 months ago

Nah, he's not a Mizzery fan.. he's a ??? I'm not sure. I went to the computer tonight after the awesome game just to get a smile out of soobawls post. I was not disappointed. He's talking how Self is lucky to have a job... awesome!!!! Soobawls gets better by the game.

I can't wait until after we win it all, coming on here to read how soobawls think that we got lucky and didn't deserve it.... same as he did in '08.

Enjoy the roses along the way everyone.. .this one was a daisy.

bballdiehard 10 years, 5 months ago

"wissoxfan83 said... Kansas is the winningest team this decade, albeit tied with many others!"

wissoxfan83, as much as I wish this were true, I believe you're incorrect. During the Duke v. Penn game on New Year's Eve, ESPN reported Duke as being the winningest team of the decade, ahead of KU by, I believe, 8 victories.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 5 months ago

Remember bballdiehard, it's a new decade!

KU 10 years, 5 months ago

NavyHawk......I didn't misunderstand anything. If I were a recruit and I heard the announcers explaining that EJ is a great athlete and he can't even get on the floor this year, I would think twice about going to KU. If I were supremely confident in my abilities, it wouldn't stop me from going to KU, but it's not the best recruiting postcard for KU.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 5 months ago

annette just made my top ten posters along with Jaybate, KUshaw, 100, ralster, LAJayhawk, KU, Memhawk, drgnslayr..etc. Please post early and often!!!!!!

KUbsee69 10 years, 5 months ago

I'm a little late posting this, but my favorite sigh in the crowd at the game was one that said "Be careful of what you ask for".

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 5 months ago

Who wants a challenge?

Wouldn't it be interesting to compare D. Rose and John Wall, both Cal's golden boys and potentially, both OAD number one draft picks? Of course, Wall didn't start playing in the first game for Ky. But just their efficiency as freshmen could be compared. I'll bet that Wall is the odds on leader in all categories. Unfortunately, he and Cal seem to be "brothers from another mother" while Rose was not nearly as much of a "highlight" player He has proven to be a very good freshman NBA guard as I'm sure Wall will also be. My opinion still stands, however, about Cal's contribution to both of them regarding their development under him as their coach. If in some bizaro dimension I was substituted for Cal on the bench when Rose and Wall were freshmen, they would still be the same players and would still be drafted highly. Cal is riding the wave with these two and others. His wave never seems to drag him to the undertow however.

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