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Here's what KU's 2013 basketball recruiting class would have looked like in previous years

Kentuckysports.com recently put together a blog post about the Wildcats' recruiting class and how it might have looked like in earlier years.

Because Kansas coach Bill Self has compiled his best recruiting class (at least on paper) in his 10 years in Lawrence, I thought it would be interesting to do a similar exercise for the Jayhawks.

For this blog, we'll use the RSCI recruiting rankings, which compile many of the top recruiting rankings to come up with a single list.

Here's where the Jayhawks' class finished up in those rankings:

KU's recruiting class of 2013
1. Andrew Wiggins
13. Wayne Selden
16. Joel Embiid
36. Brannen Greene
40. Conner Frankamp
89. Frank Mason

Just for fun, I looked up what KU's recruiting class would have looked like if it had the first, 13th-, 16th, 36th-, 40th- and 89th-best players in previous years.

Here are the results (two/three players are listed under each other in case of a tie in the rankings):

2012
1. Shabazz Muhammad (UCLA)
13. Ricardo Ledo (Providence)
16. Gary Harris (Michigan State)
36. Katin Reinhardt (UNLV)
40. Brice Johnson (North Carolina)
89. Mike Gesell (Iowa)
Denzel Valentine (Michigan State)

Kentucky forward Anthony Davis bounces the ball off his fist during the Wildcats' practice at the Superdome on Friday, March 30, 2012.

Kentucky forward Anthony Davis bounces the ball off his fist during the Wildcats' practice at the Superdome on Friday, March 30, 2012. by Nick Krug

2011
1. Anthony Davis (Kentucky)
13. Myck Kabongo (Texas)
16. Jabari Brown (Oregon)
36. Trevor Lacey (Alabama)
40. Jakarr Sampson (St. John's)
89. Sidiki Johnson (Arizona)

2010
1. Harrison Barnes (North Carolina)
13. Cory Joseph (Texas)
16. Joe Jackson (Memphis)
36. Cameron Clark (Oklahoma)
40. Jordan McRae (Tennessee)
89. Jarell Eddie (Virginia Tech)

2009
1. Derrick Favors (Georgia Tech)
13. Dante Taylor (Pittsburgh)
16. Alex Oriakhi (UConn)
36. Aaric Murray (La Salle)
40. Jamil Wilson (Oregon)
89. Donnavan Kirk (Miami FL)
Keith Clanton (Central Florida)

Milwaukee Bucks' Brandon Jennings (3) drives against Miami Heat's Mario Chalmers (15) during the second half of an NBA basketball game on Wednesday, Feb. 1, 2012, in Milwaukee. The Bucks won 105-97.

Milwaukee Bucks' Brandon Jennings (3) drives against Miami Heat's Mario Chalmers (15) during the second half of an NBA basketball game on Wednesday, Feb. 1, 2012, in Milwaukee. The Bucks won 105-97. by Nick Gerik

2008
1. Brandon Jennings (Europe)
13. Willie Warren (Oklahoma)
16. Elliot Williams (Duke)
Kemba Walker (UConn)
36. Kenny Kadji (Florida)
Darius Miller (Kentucky)
40. Anthony Jones (Baylor)
89. Matt Gatens (Iowa)

2007
1. O.J. Mayo (USC)
13. DeAndre Jordan (Texas A&M)
16. Blake Griffin (Oklahoma)
36. DeJuan Blair (Pittsburgh)
40. Chris Allen (Michigan State)
89. Bradley Wanamaker (Pittsburgh)

Greg Oden, Ohio State

Greg Oden, Ohio State

2006
1. Greg Oden (Ohio State)
13. Daequan Cook (Ohio State)
16. Vernon Macklin (Georgetown)
36. Jerome Dyson (UConn)
40. Davon Jefferson (USC)
89. Taylor Harrison (California)

2005
1. Josh McRoberts (Duke)
13. Greg Paulus (Duke)
16. Gerald Green (NBA)
36. Theo Davis (Iowa State)
Dominic James (Marquette)
40. Eric Boateng (Duke)
Fendi Onobun (Arizona)
89. K.C. Rivers (Clemson)

2004
1. Dwight Howard (NBA)
13. D.J. White (Indiana)
16. Juan Diego Palacios (Louisville)
36. Josh Wright (Syracuse)
40. Dorell Wright (NBA)
Isaiah Swann (Florida State)
Brian Johnson (Louisville)
89. Nick Young (USC)
Lorenzo Wade (Louisville)

Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary's LeBron James goes up for a dunk in the
first half of the McDonald's All-American Game. James had 27 points
in the East's 122-107 victory Wednesday at Gund Arena in Cleveland.

Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary's LeBron James goes up for a dunk in the first half of the McDonald's All-American Game. James had 27 points in the East's 122-107 victory Wednesday at Gund Arena in Cleveland. by AP Photo

2003
1. LeBron James (NBA)
13. Olu Famutimi (Arkansas)
16. Travis Outlaw (NBA)
Linas Kleiza (Missouri)
J.R. Giddens (Kansas)
36. Rodrick Stewart (USC)
40. Gary Forbes (Virginia)
Ronnie Brewer (Arkansas)
89. Omari Israel (Notre Dame)

2002
1. Amare Stoudemire (NBA)
13. Evan Burns (UCLA)
16. Anthony Roberson (Florida)
36. Eric Williams (Wake Forest)
40. Matt Walsh (Florida)
89. Marquis Kately (California)

2001
1. Eddy Curry (NBA)
13. David Harrison (Colorado)
Jonathan Hargett (West Virginia)
16. Maurice Williams (Alabama)
36. Billy Edelin (Syracuse)
40. Travis Diener (Marquette)
89. Derek Stribling (Tennessee)

Indiana's Scot Pollard, left, defends Portland's Zach Randolph. Pollard had six points and 16 rebounds in the Pacers' 101-69 victory Wednesday night in Indianapolis.

Indiana's Scot Pollard, left, defends Portland's Zach Randolph. Pollard had six points and 16 rebounds in the Pacers' 101-69 victory Wednesday night in Indianapolis. by Darron Cummings/AP Photo

2000
1. Zach Randolph (Michigan State)
13. Jerome Harper (juco)
16. Darius Rice (Miami FL)
36. Cliff Hawkins (Kentucky)
40. Brian Boddicker (Texas)
89. Kim Bowers (Mississippi State)

1999
1. Donnell Harvey (Florida)
13. Kenny Satterfield (Cincinnati)
16. Casey Sanders (Duke)
36. Steve Hunter (DePaul)
40. Matt Carroll (Notre Dame)
89. Marque Perry (St. Louis)
Nathan Hair (USC)

1998
1. Al Harrington (NBA)
13. Michael Miller (Florida)
16. Ray Young (UCLA)
Corey Maggette (Duke)
36. Douglas Wrenn (prep school)
40. Jeff Boschee (Kansas)
89. Marqus Ledoux (LSU)
David Graves (Notre Dame)

A few interesting things:

If you're wanting to dream on KU's recruiting class, look no further than 2007. O.J. Mayo, DeAndre Jordan Blake Griffin and DeJuan Blair? Obviously, the numbers fell just right for these players to be in these spots, and I'd guess 2007 was one of the strongest recruiting classes of all time. Still, if KU had close to that kind of talent coming in ... look out.

Though 2007 is encouraging for KU fans, there are other years that show high recruiting rankings don't necessarily guarantee success. I'm thinking the 1999 grouping is the worst (Donnell Harvey, Kenny Satterfield, Casey Sanders, Steve Hunter, Matt Carroll, Marque Perry, Nathan Hair), though a few recent ones like 2010 (Harrison Barnes, Cory Joseph, Joe Jackson, Cameron Clark, Jordan McRae, Jarell Eddie) lacked some star power as well.

It's an interesting coincidence that Conner Frankamp shares the same RSCI ranking as former KU basketball player Jeff Boschee (No. 40).

KU's Jeff Boschee.

KU's Jeff Boschee.

When I talked to Rivals.com national recruiting analyst Eric Bossi a few months ago, he even made the remark about Frankamp that "it’s too easy to make a Jeff Boschee comparison."

I would guess KU fans would be thrilled if Frankamp went on to have a Boschee-like career for the Jayhawks.

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    Comments

    Popy Suthiwan 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Interesting and fun article! I wonder if it would be possible to see what the former classes would have been like if you looked at the position rankings instead. For instance, #1 small forwards, #1 centers, #8 shooting guards, so on and so forth. Might also be interesting to see the comparisons this way as well.

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    Ralster Jayhawk 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Lebron=Beast. Chalmers about to get ring #3 (1 ncaa, 2nd nba ring coming...).

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    Jack Jones 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Good piece, Jesse. I know these clips show them playing against other HS age players ~ BUT, DAMN ~ these guys are pretty good. :):)

    Conner's PPG look low ~ unless they are for his entire 4 year HS career. Certainly, his Junior and Senior year numbers were sensational.

    This will be a fun group ~ including our returnees ~ to watch, for sure.

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    Steven Mathew 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    That 2007 class is a beast, and Wanamaker is the sleeper in that class. I believe he went on to have a very productive career at Pittsburgh.

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    Dirk Medema 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    I thought one of the things about this class compared to others was that it was so much more talented. Was hoping that this was going to compare the current KU class with classes for other teams in the past. Ranking the classes vs the individual players.

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    oldalum 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Max Falkenstein and Chris Piper used to joke about that, saying Oden looked like Julian's dad.

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    JJHawq 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    That's the oldest looking 18/19 yr old i've ever seen (Oden)

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    msezdsit 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Just going through all the lists over the years I couldn't help to think how many of those names weren't made famous in the NBA. Compare that to the players that did make it in the NBA from each of those classes. Lot of people not on these lists made it in the NBA. That is the group that Self usually gets a lot of players from.

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    BCRavenJHawkfan 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Very nice Jesse. Now, for your extra credit assignment. Take the recruits KU actually got in those years and and place them at schools based on this year's placement. In other words, Chalmers, Rush & Co. would have went elsewhere, Morris twins, TRob as well. but where, and who would have been there with them? What made me think of the extra credit excercise was that out of all the recruits listed only Boschee and J.R. Giddens fell to Kansas both ways. Interesting, ehh?

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    hawk316 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Really good angle for a story, Jesse. Thanks for a fun read.

    I had three impressions from reading this: 1) ratings often don't mean that much (but we already knew that!), 2) Bill Self knows what he's doing in recruiting (but we already knew that!) and 3) Blake Griffin was only ranked #16??? (see point #1)

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    otaKU 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    On a side note, I posted this on another thread but has anybody wondered what our team would've been like had Lance Stephenson committed instead of Xavier Henry? I believe he was about to commit until Coach Cal left and then Xavier Henry wanted out of Memphis.

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    dstnku34 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    The 2007 class is amazing! Pretty hard to believe Self wouldn't have made a strong showing with Brandon Jennings, Willie Warren, and Kemba Walker in 2008, also. Personally, I like our class better than UK, because of the complimenting weapons each player brings to our game. It makes us a far stronger team when we have so many ways of attacking an opponent...deep threats (Frankamp, Greene, White), slashers who finish (Wiggins,), slashers who dish (Mason, Seldon), bangers (Black, Lucas), short jumper threats (Ellis, Embiid...soft shooters), guards who post (Greene, White), solid role players (Traylor), very capable leader (Tharpe)...it's going to be fun! Rock Chalk!

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    fearthephog512 10 months, 3 weeks ago

    Jerrance Howard from SMU to replace Joe Dooley? Jason King says so ... http://bit.ly/12iKYd7

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