Saturday, September 16, 2017

Road woes continue: Jayhawks fall at Ohio, 42-30

Kansas defensive tackle Daniel Wise (96) is stopped at the line as Ohio quarterback Nathan Rourke (12) throws to a receiver during the first quarter on Saturday, Sept. 16, 2017 at Peden Stadium in Athens, Ohio.

Kansas defensive tackle Daniel Wise (96) is stopped at the line as Ohio quarterback Nathan Rourke (12) throws to a receiver during the first quarter on Saturday, Sept. 16, 2017 at Peden Stadium in Athens, Ohio.


Like so many road games in the past several seasons, the Kansas football team fell into an early deficit and couldn’t climb back.

Ohio took a three-score lead early in the second quarter and the Jayhawks weren’t consistent on either side of the ball in a 42-30 loss at Peden Stadium. KU finished the non-conference portion of its schedule with a 1-2 record.

Kansas scored touchdowns on back-to-back drives in the second quarter via a 56-yard run by running back Khalil Herbert and a 9-yard touchdown catch by receiver Chase Harrell. Herbert, who had another touchdown as time expired in the fourth quarter, finished with a game-high 137 rushing yards on 19 carries.

But the Bobcats (2-1) scored on two straight possessions in the third quarter to squash any comeback bid. Ohio produced 450 yards of total offense, including 196 yards on the ground. Running back A.J. Ouellette had 102 rushing yards and a score on 10 attempts, while quarterback Nathan Rourke was 11-of-16 passing for 152 yards and two touchdowns.

KU quarterback Peyton Bender was 30-of-47 passing for 343 yards, two touchdowns and one interception. Junior receiver Steven Sims, who returned from an ankle injury, had six catches for 60 yards. Evan Fairs added three catches for 77 yards, while senior Jeremiah Booker had four receptions for 59 yards, including a touchdown in the fourth quarter.

The Jayhawks have lost 42 consecutive road games, dating back to 2009.

Here’s a quick look back at some of the action:

The game turned when: Ohio cornerback Jalen Fox picked off a pass from KU quarterback Bender. Down 11 points at the beginning of the third quarter, the Jayhawks hoped to turn an interception by sophomore safety Mike Lee into some big momentum.

Instead, on the first play following Lee’s interception in Ohio’s end zone, Bender threw behind his intended receiver Sims, who reached back to try to put a hand on the ball. Sims tipped the ball in the air and Fox took advantage with the interception, which he returned to the end zone.

A holding penalty negated the pick-six score, but the Bobcats scored four rushing plays later — all from Ouellette — for a 32-14 lead. The Jayhawks never threatened again.

Offensive highlight: After going scoreless for the first four offensive possessions Saturday, sophomore running back Herbert sprinted up the middle and went virtually untouched on his way for a 56-yard touchdown run.

The middle of the offensive line, including center Mesa Ribordy, created a gaping hole for Herbert, who scored his first touchdown of the season.

Defensive highlight: The Jayhawks went through the first two games of the season without an interception. That streak ended on the first drive of the second half when Lee jumped in front of a pass in the end zone and wrestled the ball away from Ohio’s receiver.

It was the second career interception for Lee, a free safety from New Orleans.

Key stat: Third down conversions. The Bobcats went 5-for-9 on third down and only punted twice. Ohio ended up with points on six of its first eight drives.

Up next: After three non-conference games, the Jayhawks will welcome West Virginia to open Big 12 play at 11 a.m. Saturday at Memorial Stadium. It’s the last game for the Jayhawks before their bye week.



10:49 — Louie Zervos 41 field goal. Five-play drive for 69 yards, in 2:05. (OU 3, KU 0.)

4:15 — Nathan Rourke 3 run. Jake Hale pass from Michael Farkas. Eleven-play drive for 64 yards, in 5:23. (OU 11, KU 0.)


14:53 — Troy Mangen 10 pass from Rourke. Zervos kick. Six-play drive for 58 yards in 1:51. (OU 18, KU 0.)

9:11 — Khalil Herbert 56 run. Gabriel Rui kick. Six-play drive for 84 yards, in 2:31. (OU 18, KU 7.)

6:20 — Mangen 9 pass from Quinto Maxwell. Zervos kick. Six-play drive for 91 yards, in 2:43. (OU 25, KU 7.)

0:08 — Chase Harrell 9 pass from Peyton Bender. Rui kick. Eighteen-play drive for 80 yards, in 6:06. (OU 25, KU 14.)


9:53 — A.J. Ouellette 8 run. Zervos kick. Four-play drive for 32 yards, in 1:13. (OU 32, KU 14.)

0:19 — Andrew Meyer 9 pass from Rourke. Zervos kick. Twelve-play drive for 84 yards, in 6:45. (OU 39, KU 14.)


11:47 — Jeremiah Booker 1 pass from Bender. Rui kick. Twelve-play drive for 77 yards, in 3:26. (OU 39, KU 21.)

5:35 — Rui 34 field goal. Eleven-play drive for 75 yards, in 2:34. (OU 39, KU 24.)

2:13 — Zervos 46 field goal. Seven-play drive for 18 yards, in 3:21. (OU 42, KU 24.)

0:00 — Herbert 2 run. Eleven-play drive for 75 yards, in 2:13. (OU 42, KU 30.)

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More news and notes from Kansas vs. Ohio


Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 9 months ago

Orange Bowl 2008........Kansas wins........Coach Mark Mangino was former offensive coordinator at Oklahoma.........Coach Mangino was fired by Kansas University........

You do the math.

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

Today's score doesn't begin to tell the story about how bad this game was. We r a team with no identity. Trying to run an offense we don't have the personnel to run, a defense that must be so poorly coached that good players look really bad. I don't know how you fix this but I guarantee you Beatty is incapable of the task.

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

Clint Bowen is holding the team back from success with terrible coaching on D. When was the last time any of his defensive units were worth anything? When he worked for Mangino in 2008 and 2009, his defenses were terrible then, too.

Brian Wilson 4 years, 9 months ago

IMO Everyone here is so off based. KU is still 10-15 scholarships behind an established program. We still don't have any Seniors that even grew up in the system Beaty is teaching while a third of our Juniors are transfers. We didn't even have a full recruiting class until last year. Before that we had to beg for walk-ons. Everyone here should ST*U about firing Bowen or Beaty. When last year's recruiting class, our current sophomores become Seniors, then you can expect something. At that time you will have a full class of Seniors that should know the system in their sleep with Juniors and underclassmen for depth. Right now we have some talent with little knowledge and experience in the system and no depth. What in the world gave any of you the idea this was going to be a good year is beyond me unless you drank the Koolaid and now want to blame it on the media for all the hype and fake news. KU's football team situation is not hard to figure out and if you fire Beaty or Bowen at this point more players will leave taking with them the scholarship spots given to them and it will gut the KU program again and we will never recover until we leave the coaches alone for at least a six year stretch. IMO, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. FIRINGS WILL MAKE THIS SITUATION MUCH WORSE.

Cora Smith 4 years, 9 months ago

It was a disorganized mess. We missed five tackles on one play and the defense could not keep up. How can we get better recruits when 44 consecutive road losses are around the bend?

Mike Barnhart 4 years, 9 months ago

Just sooo poorly coached in every phase of the game. As always, Bowen's guys lack any kind of fundamental skills.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 9 months ago

Throw the whole Kansas defense in the trash can!!! Along with Clint Bowen!

Chris DeWeese 4 years, 9 months ago

It's time to say goodbye to Clint Bowen.

Joe Ross 4 years, 9 months ago

Just for the sake of being thorough, have you considered Bowen's environment? I mean look at Doug Meacham. Look at Zach Yenser. Hell, David Beaty himself. Everywhere they went they were successful. They come to Kansas and the program make them look bad. Is Meacham not the same guy who helped TCUs offense make waves nationally? Should we fire him based on the performance of the offense? The players have A LOT to do with it.

Larry Jackson 4 years, 9 months ago

There is a reason TCU let Doug Meacham go. He did NOT come to KU on his own accord. It's the same situation with the hapless Bender.

Barry Weiss 4 years, 9 months ago

There is no pretty way to paint this picture. Two straight losses (not even close games) to MAC schools. Even the announcers had the courage to say that indeed, Kansas is a bad football team at this point. So at what point are our coaches held accountable? Its hard to see ANY progress on this team in the Beatty era. And stop blaming this on the fans. Good grief.

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

Beatty says we r a good football team, espn says we r a bad fb team? Who would u believe?

Larry Jackson 4 years, 9 months ago

The theme song for this football team is Michael Jackson's "I'm Bad".

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

Of all players sims is the only player out there who is as good as last year. Other players are not getting better with experience but are in fact regressing. This is coaching.

Barry Weiss 4 years, 9 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. I think our coaching is just not cutting it.

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

We need to scrap the air raid and figure out how to run the ball and work the clock. Hard to know what to do since the online is so bad. Outside of the 53 yd run we only avg 1.7 ypc

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

And meanwhile, Iowa State paid a visit to Akron (also a MAC school) and beat the crap out of them. Matt Campbell is making more progress with the woebegone Cyclones football team he inherited from Paul Rhoads than David Beaty is with the Jayhawks. The moniker given to Kansas State by Sports Illustrated in 1988, "Futility U." applies to us now.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 9 months ago

Any suggestions for who should take over at defensive coordinator?? And who should replace Head Coach David Beaty next season??

Chris DeWeese 4 years, 9 months ago

Well, we could try Todd Bradford as the interim DC, or maybe Perry. Another option is to keep Bowen around until the end of the season and hope that preserves some form of consistency (hopefully not consistently losing). Beyond that, I don't know who would ever want the job.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 9 months ago

Maybe a good coach from the high school ranks??

Barry Weiss 4 years, 9 months ago

I will freely admit I came into this season thinking we would go 3-0 in the non-conference games and pick up 2 wins in conference or a 5 win season. I did not get on the bowl bus. But damn....we are staring down another two win season at this pace. Beatty should have shown some improvement by now. It does not take this many years to show SOME improvement. What improvement have we gotten in the Beatty era? Crap, I'm going to go out and work in the yard. I'm done venting.

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

You're right but the pontificator want to give him 2 more years. If this experiment doesn't work the program is dead.

Larry Jackson 4 years, 9 months ago

DIGRESS is the word for the f-ball season.

Kevin Long 4 years, 9 months ago

Bowen needs to be gone by the end of the weekend.

Lucas Town 4 years, 9 months ago

Watching the local 1 hour post game show and I'm thinking what a waste! Interviewing our players after the game like they have done something. Breaking down the game and showing highlights like we are a formidable football team. The score was so much closer than the game was. This is bad!

Ed Noyes 4 years, 9 months ago

I am too depressed to even comment about my alma mater's football "program". I believe I will not renew my Williams Fund participation because of everything that has happened since Coach Mangino was sent "to the shed". There, now I'm even more depressed.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 9 months ago

In 2009, KU hired a MAC coach who had just gone 5-7. That year, there was a MAC coach who finished the year 9-5. That coach also had extensive, successful head coaching experience in the Big 12 before being fired by a program after he went 9-3. That coach was available and would have taken the job. Who did KU pick?

First, congratulations to Benton on a pretty good final score prediction. I felt the game would be more methodical and slow-paced but Ohio ran us over from the get go and our offense continued to sputter until it was too late.

If Beaty fires his D.C., that will be his third coordinator firing in three years. What about the patience everyone espouses on this page? What message does it send when the head coach can't hire and stand behind a coordinator? It says that he is panicking and trying to save his job, which he can't.

Keegan often states that Beaty can't be fired because a new coach can't be hired by Zenger. So here is where your new Chancellor steps in. Fire Zenger now and get your AD search in process. This can be completed within 6 to 8 weeks. Use that search to leverage your coaching search. For instance, does the Wyoming A.D. have a great relationship with Craig Bohl? Is there an Associate A.D. at a P5 program that also has a hot coordinator?

Don't worry about Zenger's extension. He's making A.D. money, not coaching money, so the KUAD will simply need to eat it. Save the stadium announcement for next year, let your new A.D. take it over. Get this all done during the season so you can have your new coach announced immediately at the end of the season, prior to the Dec. signing period. Get the right coach, and you shouldn't take a step back. In fact, you should take a step forward.

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

Why do you want Craig Bohl here? Have you forgotten the way he denigrated the KU fans as "docile" after his North Dakota State team came into Memorial Stadium and beat us in the 2010 opener?

Michael Maris 4 years, 9 months ago

Brett McCabe,

So, you have all of the answers. Why are you NOT running the KU Football show?

If you pony up the $$$$$$$$ to Dr. Sheahon Zenger, and I'm sure that he will satisfy your desires.

That being said, Coach Bowen, you've had 5 plus years (since 2012 to get your DB's situation fixed. As long as you've been in Lawrence and a part of the program, you shouldn't be breaking in new DB's every season. Your DB pipeline system should be well stocked with 5th year Seniors (with some Mike Lee's sprinkled in here and there) by now.

I believe that you bleed Crimson & Blue. But, take that Jayhawk passion into an Administrative role. Because, your defensive schemes are not working.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 9 months ago

So, because I post opinions, just like you do, that means that I know it all but you don't? A**hat.

Michael Maris 4 years, 9 months ago

Earlier, you posted the following statement.

''What about the patience everyone espouses on this page? What message does it send when the head coach can't hire and stand behind a coordinator? It says that he is panicking and trying to save his job, which he can't.''

So, that's why I responded to you as I did. You love to dictate and control this board (as if you're the only one on this board who has the ONLY correct statements).

Plus, I didn't call you any derogatory name (either). This is typical of a Left-wing follower (as your self). Always have to attack with a derogatory name calling, when someone's opinions or view are different than your own.

It's no wonder that this nation is in the shape it is in (when you have to resort to some derogatory name calling to supposedly prove your point). Great Compassion you Leftist display.

Pius Waldman 4 years, 9 months ago

Well seems like everyone wants to fire people. It appears what is needed is better players. Getting new coaches won't make that easier. Patience is a virtue so lets see what happens.

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

With as bad as this team is you are not going to get better players. You have to have better coaching to get more out of the players you have

Brett McCabe 4 years, 9 months ago

It's year three. There should be visible progress. Patience isn't a virtue when your house is on fire.

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

The house burned to the ground a long time ago. Lew Perkins set the house on fire.

Austin Lopez 4 years, 9 months ago

I don't want to hear no excuses about Bowen not having the players! He has been with Kansas for how many years on defense? He has had plenty of time to get the defensive players he needs to be successful on defense! Like I said throw him and the Kansas defense in the trash can and take em to the nearest landfill!!!

Andy Godwin 4 years, 9 months ago

Simply "woes continue" for KU football, whether at home or on the road. So many missed tackles, with players just reaching instead of hitting and wrapping up. The defensive backs just can't cover well enough. No way to spin this game into many positives. KU does at least have few receivers who can go up and make a catch over a defender, but ...

Michael Maris 4 years, 9 months ago

Before this season started, I actually thought about traveling to today's game. And, I think that I will cancel my plans to attend the K-State game (as well) with my best friend (who's a K-State fan, and nephew walked on at K-State a few years ago).

Coach Beatty and staff are going to have a lot of explaining to do in their next "Kansas Blast" tour.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 9 months ago

So, if you know so much, why aren't you running KU football? A**hat.

Michael Maris 4 years, 9 months ago

I'm sorry, did I touch a nerve or two? LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL................

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

Going forward, the only winnable game I see on the schedule is the Baylor game; the once-mighty Bears have fallen on hard times nowadays.

This year's team should not be staring down the barrel of another season with 10+ losses in year three of the rebuild. KU football should be no worse than 4-8 this year. Clearly that's not happening.

David Beaty's rebuilding project is woefully behind schedule. I'm not going to advocate for his firing during or after this season, because a coach who inherited the mess he got from Gill and Weis needs more time than usual to turn the program around. But if 2018 doesn't yield better results than this year, it's time for him to go.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 9 months ago

We return 40 or so of the two deep next year, so there is some merit to the argument of keeping Beaty, even though there isn't a single shred of evidence that the program has improved.

The same argument can be made that, with 40 or so returning players in the two-deep, if you bring in an experienced, smart staff, you might be able to capitalize better. To me, waiting to see if we plummet even further next year is not worth the risk if you can find a willing replacement right now.

Give Beaty credit for taking the bullet, dealing with the scholarship issues, and getting some of the fundamentals in place. He's been well-paid and will be well-paid for the remainder of his contract. Remember too, that it wasn't us who were running around the state talking about bowl games.

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

You are right, Brett, I wasn't thinking bowl game. I was thinking that we'd be 4-8 this year, and I thought we wouldn't sniff a bowl until 2020. But nothing has changed or gotten better since last year or the year before, which means we might have to wait till 2030 for our next bowl appearance.

Bill McGovern 4 years, 9 months ago

I want to give Beaty a few more years but at this rate you have to ask yourself if the program will go anywhere. If not we need to make major changes, as in firing Zenger and getting an AD who makes smart hires. We are getting trounced by MAC schools... come conference games we are going to look like a complete joke, even more of a joke than right now. People thinking we stand a chance against Baylor just because they are having an off year is laughable, though Texas had an off year last season so who knows? I think we win no more games this year and go 1-11 or 2-10 next year. This is pathetic! It's depressing to look back at the 07-08 team and see how far the program has fallen since their success. Lew Perkins was a little dirty but he made smart hires, Gill is the exception. The new chancellor needs to take a good hard look at the football program and make some big changes or we will continue to be a big joke.

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

If we don't get turned around, CMU and Ohio will be our conference opponents, because we'll be stuck in the MAC.

Randy Bombardier 4 years, 9 months ago

I was so optimistic about this season. After thinking through what could possibly be wrong with this program and how can it be fixed i know only one thing, it cannot be fixed with our current AD. I still think Beaty needs more time, if for no other reason than to make the next hire easier but Zenger has shown he has no talent for hiring football coaches. I disagree with a number of things with Brett but not this one. Get a new AD and let him observe for a few years and start making his observations.

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

We don't have a few years. With every game the decommits are growing like wildfire. 3 stars will be a thing of the past in no time as well as players leaving the program which will get us into the scholarship bind yet again. Beatty is clueless. He calls this group a good fb team. Is there anybody out there who agrees? Mcfly? hello? Nice guy but can't coach.

Kay Jensen 4 years, 9 months ago

Yikes. WVU next week is going to be uuuuuugly. I just can't anymore. I. Just. Cannot. Sigh...

Barry Weiss 4 years, 9 months ago

Part of what has me worried is the state of the Big Twelve as a conference going forward. The next wave of conference realignments may not be too far off, depending on TV contracts. "IF" the conference does implode in the next 5 years, the state of our football program is critical. Our stellar basketball program may or may not be enough to get us into a power conference if the b-12 is raided. And our basketball program needs Kansas to be in a power football conference. So the stakes are actually quite high to get this thing fixed. I am starting to think an AD switch may be necessary. We can't keep giving this problem...well or HC needs more time.....more time. Damn, the time is now. This was the season to right the ship. It is looking like yet another 2 win season and Kansas being the butt of the jokes about college football programs.

Bryan Mohr 4 years, 9 months ago

Some people got excited when KU beat Texas last year. I wasn't one of them. It wasn't really KU beating Texas as much as it was Texas beating itself. UT had 6 turnovers in that game. Otherwise, UT had better stats than KU. KU had a lucky day against an unraveling team. A fair number of teams went easy on Beaty by pulling the starters after halftime last year. This season's start shouldn't be surprising. Beaty seems like a nice guy, but the risky hire has proven to be another bad decision. He doesn't know what to do, and it's not really his fault. He's a WR coach thrown into a position that is too big for him. Zenger is more to blame than Beaty. KU needs to swallow its pride, open up the wallet, and offer Mangino enough money to bring him back. Instead of raising money for a nicer stadium that will be empty, raise money to bring back Mangino. Leach got a second chance at Washington State after the TT fiasco. He's winning games. Give Mangino another chance. Make an offer he can't refuse.

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

I liked your comment based on your thoughts on last year's win over Texas. But I don't see how bringing back Mark Mangino would fix anything. He's retired from college coaching. You also have to remember that Mangino's success came during the twelve team, division-playing era of the Big 12, when we could avoid certain opponents on the conference slate. How successful would Mangino be in the ten team era of the Big 12, when there is no avoiding anyone?

Bryce Landon 4 years, 9 months ago

But he did lose to Bowling Green in 2002, Toledo in 2006 and to South Florida in 2008.

David Kemp 4 years, 9 months ago

Still won 2 games 02, 6 games 06, 8 games and bowl 08. Would take that in a heartbeat

Bill McGovern 4 years, 9 months ago

Make him an offer he can't refuse? As in a giant buffet along with a big fat paycheck?

Matt Kopp 4 years, 9 months ago

If Bowen does get cut, think about throwing Kevin Kane in the mix for DC, among others

Bob Forer 4 years, 9 months ago

Dont understand why everyone is so worked up. The solution is simple. Get better players.

Bob Bailey 4 years, 9 months ago

Wrong. How could ANYONE watch one play and assume we have a DX?

Bob Bailey 4 years, 9 months ago

It is bad enough we are loaded with fans who do not know the difference between good and bad coaching! It is even worse when they can't know the difference between good and bad players. Look at the individual records. We have a bunch of good players! The problem is that the coaches don't Know How to Use Them! Bowen has been a good recruiter, but he can't coach. His team mate, who played on the field with Bowen, says he was taught by one of the worst DC's. And he hasn't learned anything since. Give Bowen credit for being a good Jayhawk, but he should have NO influence at all in coaching. Reduce him to recruiting at once. About ANY position coach would be better than Bowen as a DC. Make him a temporary DC, and wait for the smoke to clear at the end of the season. Zenger, too, should go at once!

Freddie Garza 4 years, 9 months ago

To think that Mangino got the hook just because a couple of ninny boys cried publicly about getting blisters on their hands from doing army crawls.

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