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Wednesday, November 23, 2011

As distractions swirl, KU football prepares for MU

Kansas head coach Turner Gill pleads for an interference call against Baylor after a pass to KU receiver JaCorey Shepherd during KU's last drive of regulation Saturday, Nov. 12, 2011 at Kivisto Field.

Kansas head coach Turner Gill pleads for an interference call against Baylor after a pass to KU receiver JaCorey Shepherd during KU's last drive of regulation Saturday, Nov. 12, 2011 at Kivisto Field.

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Players ready for Border War

The Kansas football team is preparing to take on Missouri in what could be the last meeting between the rival schools, with the Tigers leaving the Big 12 Conference.

Turner Gill discusses Mizzou rivalry

Kansas head coach Turner Gill discussed the Border War in his opening statement at his weekly press conference Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2011.

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Turner Gill weekly press conference: Nov. 22, 2011

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Kansas head football coach Turner Gill addressed the media during his weekly press conference Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2011 at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

Coaches in all sports have emphasized for years the importance of staying in the moment and focusing only on the game in front of them.

For Kansas University’s football team, that could be a difficult task this week, as talk about several aspects of the Jayhawks’ future dominated Tuesday’s media session at the Anderson Family Football Complex.

For starters, there seems to be quite a bit of speculation that Saturday’s match-up with Missouri — 2:30 p.m. at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo. — could be head coach Turner Gill’s last game at Kansas.

Gill, who owns a 5-18 record in two years at KU, twice before stayed away from the topic this week, saying only that he was not worried about “all that other stuff” and that his focus was on preparing for the Tigers.

Asked Tuesday if it would surprise him if Saturday’s game proved to be his swan song at Kansas, Gill barely flinched.

“I expect to be here a long time,” he said.

Although Gill’s confidence in his ability to coach and develop the program never has wavered, a few of his players talked Tuesday about the unfortunate circumstances surrounding Gill’s first two years at Kansas. For some, just talking about what might become of Gill was too much.

“Any time someone wants to talk about that, you just have to stop it right there,” sophomore quarterback Jordan Webb said. “That’s something we can’t really be thinking about.”

For others, such as senior linebacker Steven Johnson, the fact that Gill may be on the hot seat creates confusion.

“It’s a little hard,” Johnson said. “Because you’ve got somebody who’s done nothing wrong. He believes in this whole program, and he’s a guy that wants to win and wants to succeed and is not getting results right away.”

Still, Johnson said all he could do was continue to work hard and fight for his head coach on the field.

“Society’s harsh, and life isn’t fair,” Johnson said. “If anybody wants to put themselves in the shoes of a coach, you can always go buy ‘NCAA 2012’ (the video game) and play dynasty mode. To try to recruit people and do that against all these other schools. It is difficult. That’s why I just try to lay it on the line for him every week.”

Most of the players made available to the media agreed: Gill has not let his future become a distraction.

“Definitely not,” Webb said. “He just wants to get us ready to play this game.”

Added senior A.J. Steward: “He’s doing the best he can. If he wasn’t coming in here every day and putting his heart into it, I would question it. I’ve never seen any person, let alone a coach, get up after taking punches the way he does. He takes a lot of heat in the media, and, just with the passion he brings to work every day, you can tell he’s never fazed by anything that happens.”

Zenger talks Border War future

With Saturday’s game potentially marking the end of what’s widely known as the oldest rivalry west of the Mississippi River, the future of the Border War series also has been a hot topic this week.

Although he’s currently in Hawaii with the men’s basketball team, KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger took time out Tuesday to re-emphasize his school’s stance on Missouri leaving the Big 12 Conference to join the SEC.

“They divorced our family, and we’re loyal to our family,” Zenger said.

Zenger, Gill and men’s basketball coach Bill Self have said in the past that the Jayhawks no longer would play the Tigers once they left the Big 12. Although the possibility exists that MU could be in a holding pattern for one more season and, therefore, would compete in the Big 12 next season to fulfill scheduling obligations, Zenger said MU’s desire to break away has soured thousands of KU supporters.

“The coaches and the administration at the University of Kansas and the major stakeholders, as well as large portion of the KU fan base, don’t have an appetite to continue this game or other competition in the wake of what’s transpired over the last couple of years,” Zenger said of Mizzou’s flirtation with other conferences. “It’s our perspective that the instability in the Big 12 Conference began in Columbia, Mo., and then was prolonged here in the last several months when they really had a chance to bring things together.”

Injury update

Like most teams this time of year, the Jayhawks enter their finale a little banged up. Gill said only one injury was serious enough to threaten playing time this weekend.

Tight end Tim Biere, who missed last week’s game because of a lower leg injury, is questionable for the final game of his KU career. Biere, a senior from Omaha, Neb., ranks third on this year’s team in both receptions (27) and receiving yards (322) and is tied for second on the team with two touchdown receptions.

Center Jeremiah Hatch, who missed the second half of last week’s loss at Texas A&M;, is probable for Saturday, and Webb, who was sacked six times last week and momentarily left the game after one particularly vicious hit, is also prepared to play.

“I’m perfectly fine,” Webb said. “We’ve got the best training staff in America, so I’ll be ready to go on Saturday.”

What to wear?

In years past, the Jayhawks have chosen the season finale against Missouri to break out a new uniform combination. But that won’t be the case Saturday. Gill said the Jayhawks — the designated home team — would wear their normal home uniforms.

Asked why, Gill pointed to the fact the team wore light blue throwback jerseys for this year’s homecoming game, a 45-34 loss to Texas Tech on Oct. 1.

In last year’s Border War game, KU donned all white uniforms, complete with white helmets, for the 35-7 loss to the Tigers, who also mixed up their look with throwback helmets.

This day in history...

On this day in 1991, former KU running back “Touchdown” Tony Sands, set two NCAA records and scored four touchdowns during KU’s 53-29 trouncing of Missouri at Memorial Stadium.

Sands’ 396 yards and 58 carries in his final game as a Jayhawk broke the NCAA single-game rushing record (386) set earlier that season by San Diego State’s Marshall Faulk. Although Sands’ NCAA yardage record since has been broken, both still stand as school records. Sands, who played at KU from 1988-91, ranks second on KU’s career rushing list with 3,788 yards.

‘Prince Hal’ passes

Harold “Prince Hal” Patterson, a three-sport letter-winner at KU in the early 1950s, passed away Monday at 79 in Kinsley.

Patterson, a member of the KU football (1952-53), basketball (1953-54) and baseball (1953) teams, was drafted by the NFL’s Philadelphia Eagles, but chose to head to Canada, where he had a 14-year career and was inducted into the CFL Hall of Fame in 1971. As a Jayhawk basketball player and starter on the 1952-53 team that advanced to the national championship game, Patterson participated in 46 games and averaged 10.3 points during his two seasons.

A native of Rozel, Patterson also is enshrined in the Kansas Sports Hall of Fame and the KU Athletic Hall of Fame.

Patterson’s funeral will take place at 2 p.m. Saturday at Morell Funeral Home in Larned. A visitation is scheduled from 9 a.m. until 8 p.m. Friday at the funeral home, and memorials may be sent to American Diabetes Foundation in care of Morell Funeral Home, P.O. Box 124, Larned, Kan., 67550-0124.

Comments

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Fun Jayhawk history - October 29, 2005. Kansas 13 – Missouri 3.
Source: Lawrence Journal-World – Oct. 30, 2005.
Page 1 headline: Goalposts Take a Swim.
See picture here - crazy students swimming with goal post in Potter Lake: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=H3xT48m3F74C&dat=20051030&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 6 months ago

That game was incredible!!! The week before, Brad Smith had just TORCHED the Huskers with his feet and his arm, and Kansas just threw a blanket over him. That game was the coming out party for Aqib Talib and was the scene of the loudest ROCK CHALK chant I have ever heard, including Allen Fieldhouse. Of all the KU games I have been to over the last 25 years, that one and the 2005 and 2007 Nebraska games are my three favorites!

Phoghorn 10 years, 6 months ago

That 76-39 game was the last one I have been able to attend as I live out of town now. Another favorite of mine was the 21-0 win against Mizzou in 1999. Watching MU come into Kansas Memorial Stadium and lay a goosegg was priceless!

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 6 months ago

You know, now that you say that, it jogged my memory for KU-MU games. I can't believe I omitted the Tony Sands game that I was lucky enough to attend. 396 yards, and Mason said he'd have ran him in from the 4 as time expired had he realized it would have gotten him 400!!!

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Fun Jayhawk history - October 29, 2005. Kansas 13 – Missouri 3.
Source: Lawrence Journal-World – Oct. 30, 2005.
Headline: Smith’s struggles put Pinkel in pickle Partial article copied: Mizzou was perched one victory away from its fourth bowl berth since 1983 and tied for first place in the Big 12 North and on the cusp of its first four-game conference winning streak since joining the Big 12 Conference in 1996. It had infinite incentive. The Tigers also seemed to have an enormous advantage over Kansas University- the loser of four in a row, outscored 105-36 in the process and featuring a starting quarterback whose best other scholarship option was to go to Michigan State … to play violin. Consider, too, that the loathed Jayhawks had embarrassed MU the last six of the last seven in Lawrence, and you might think the Tigers would come out frothing. Instead, there was this: a numbing 13-3 loss to the Jayhawks. “It just comes down to focus for us,” (quarterback Brad) Smith said, “and we didn’t have it.” Beyond the question of how that could be, perhaps more disturbing is the idea that an otherwise-sputtering Kansas team – 3-15 in Big 12 games not involving MU the last three years – smothered MU’s offense again.

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Headline: A horror show for Tigers Columbia Tribune, October 30, 2005 Lawrence, Kan. - In some ways, Mark Mangino falls short of Gary Pinkel. Pinkel looks like Marlon Brando from "On the Waterfront." Mangino looks like Marlon Brando from "Apocalypse Now." But the Kansas coach knows how to devise a game plan to stop Brad Smith and, consequently, whip Pinkel’s Missouri Tigers. The Jayhawks (4-4, 1-4 Big 12) aren’t particularly good at beating anyone else, which is one of the reasons yesterday’s 13-3 victory over the Tigers (5-3, 3-2) was so frustrating for Missouri. Mangino is still looking for his first winning season at Kansas, but he is 3-1 against Pinkel. As long as Mangino keeps his job, Pinkel should be on the Christmas card list. And it’s been three straight convincing victories against favored MU teams. Three straight times making Smith look less than ordinary. Afterward, the Tigers blamed their offensive woes on poor execution, but give the big man and the Jayhawks their due. Another MU team that coulda been a contender lost to an underdog Kansas squad. The horror. The horror.

Funhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Headline: Missouri hits brick wall. Jayhawks shut down Smith, hand MU frustrating defeat. Columbia Tribune, October 30, 2005 Lawrence, Kan. - After yesterday’s football game against Missouri, Kansas Coach Mark Mangino used terms like "flawless" and "perfection" to describe the way his defense played. On the other side of Memorial Stadium, MU Coach Gary Pinkel muttered the word "mistakes" several times. If the Kansas fans hauling both goal posts out of the stadium didn’t clearly indicate which team won, the comments from the coaches cleared it up. After playing his final game against the Jayhawks, senior guard Tony Palmer glumly summed up the feelings of his teammates as he walked out of the locker room. "I can’t stand this place," Palmer said. "I hate Kansas. My hat’s off to them, though. They came out and wanted it a little bit more than us."

NebraskaJayhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Winning is fun. Losing isn't. Let's win for crying out loud.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

"Patterson, a member of the KU football (1952-53), basketball (1953-54) and baseball (1953) teams, .... As a Jayhawk basketball player and starter on the 1952-53 team that advanced to the national championship game, ..."

Matt, looks like something's askew there. I'm guessing that it should say he was on the basketball team from 1952-54, not 1953-54.

Matt Tait 10 years, 6 months ago

That was from the official KU release on it and I'm guessing they say '53-'54 because they go by the year that the season ends...

Thanks for reading!!!

Robert Brock 10 years, 6 months ago

We got any tape of Don Fambrough foaming at the mouth and verbally pounding the creepy Tiggers? All of our young players need to see it. Fam lives!

Hail_To_Thee 10 years, 6 months ago

So the only mention of Pattersons passing is a little blurp at the very bottom of an article written about the uncertainty of the future for the head football coach?

Sad that this news was reported on SI.com lastnight, before KUSports even made mention of it.

I think its only fair that Mr. Patterson get his own article just like any other highly successful alum would receive.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 6 months ago

I agree...this was probably the most meaningful information in this entire article, and it was a blurp at the end.

Maybe they were announcing it today and tomorrow or over the weekend they are writing a nice story about it.

Hint..Hint...LJW!!

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 6 months ago

Will Mizzou be wearing new Nike pro combat unis that are prison jumpsuit orange to honor their coach?

FSUJHAWK 10 years, 6 months ago

Common boys, even the Gill haters are behind you. The entire Jayhawk Nation is behind you. This is the game where you become men and legends! Make it happen!

RCJHGKU !!!

MorganR 10 years, 6 months ago

As a graduate of KU, I agree with Mr. Zenger’s statement: “The coaches and the administration at the University of Kansas and the major stakeholders, as well as large portion of the KU fan base, don’t have an appetite to continue this game or other competition in the wake of what’s transpired over the last couple of years,” Zenger said of Mizzou’s flirtation with other conferences. “It’s our perspective that the instability in the Big 12 Conference began in Columbia, Mo..."

I hope coach Gill and the football team beat Missouri in the last "border war."

I also hope coach Gill will be with KU next year and that the improvements in the team's performance will put to rest the anxieties of some of my fellow Jayhawks. I would love to see KU be a football powerhouse but I want them to do so with concern for the kids and with integrity.

Reading about the events at Penn State and the unhealthy dominance of the Penn State football program over the school's administration, the events at Ohio State that resulted in the dismissal of their coach, the struggles Notre Dame has had in finding a coach, the abusive conduct of some coaches, and several other instances makes me very apprehensive about the “win now” and “win at any cost” mentality. It may be a reflection of our time that we are impatient with the economy or other aspects of our lives but most of us know from experience that patience is often rewarded.

Brak 10 years, 6 months ago

WINNER!!!! Thanks for saying exactly how I feel. I swear most of the these KU football fans would want Jerry Sandusky as their head coach as long as we went to a bowl game next year. The end doesn't always justify the means.

MorganR 10 years, 6 months ago

You're welcome and THANK YOU! I am relieved that others feel that patience and integrity are important. On the occassion of the Duke basketball coach's record setting win, someone remarked that the fans and alumni wanted him fired during his first two years or so because he wasn't winning.

A recent article said some Penn State grads are concerned that the scandal will devalue their degrees. Some prospective studends said they are reconsidering their decisions to attend Penn State. While I think their concerns are not well founded, I want to be proud of KU for its academic success and its integrity. Winning is important but it doesn't trump the core mission of the (OUR) university.

MorganR 10 years, 6 months ago

Sorry for the misspelling of "students." As a blonde, I should know better than to try to multi-task.

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 6 months ago

I REALLY hope you're right, but there's just been so little progress over the last two years that surely you can see why there is a movement to end the Gill era. While I would dearly love for him to stay and work out, I'm having an awful hard time seeing reasons to do so, other than the we're being too impatient argument. It is possible to win with integrity. Mark Richt has done it at Georgia to name one. But we're getting smoked on a weekly basis with integrity. It would be nice to at least be competitive.

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

If Gill stays then a major improvement is needed next year and it has to be in the win column. I can't handle another season of we are improving speeches from gill lol without wins. It's ok if you are a blonde since you're cute lol

MorganR 10 years, 6 months ago

Thanks - I haven't been called "cute" in years.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 6 months ago

Your comments are the ones that I fear the most. Thinking that because others are having problems, we should not care about winning or losing. You forget that you can win and have good human beings as well.

You lump the PSU, OSU, and ND problems together as if they are the same problem. You appear to think KU should settle for being at the bottom of the barrel every year, because of a scandal? Do you think we should have an athletics department, because we had a fraud there?

Are you saying that with KU having a nice caring and supportive coach one is less likely to have the events that occurred at PSU? The PSU problem began when administrators turned their eye on their responsibilities to act like human beings. A lot of top programs wouldn't have settled or covered up a scandal like that. The PSU problem was way bigger than their head coach (but did include their Head Coach).

The OSU problem was over selling memorabilia, that was equivalent to a five game suspension. I guess we shouldn't have recruited Josh Selby because he came with a 13 game suspension. Those were rules that were broken with specific responses. If we had played Josh knowing those issues, maybe we would have been in the same boat as OSU, but keep in mind, that is more than just the head coach with those types of decisions to be made. KU won and had similar issues.

ND has had coaching problems just like us, doesn't mean they settle for a mediocre coach, they keep looking for a good one, which is what KU should be doing. The coaches that they have had, to my knowledge, no one has said they were bad people. They have said they aren't getting the job done.

I guess I have a hard time understanding, that if you are NOT willing to change your coach because he is under performing that makes you have an Ethical Program?

Mentor Gill has not even been a mediocre coach (arguably the worst Big XII coach ever), and he doesn't belong on the sidelines.

MorganR 10 years, 6 months ago

Apparently, I wasn't clear. My point about Penn State and Ohio State is that having, what most would consider to be a great coach, does not necessarily translate into having a program that instills pride in the university despite the won/loss record.

With regard to Ohio State, my concern had less to do with tattoos and more to do with the lack of integrity of the football coach. With regard to Penn State, the allegations are that the football program allegedly allowed abusive conduct to continue because of the power of the football program over the administration of the university.

My point about Notre Dame is that, even renowned football schools, have difficulty in getting a football coach that meets the fans' expectations. The ND example is instructive in that the school hired coaches based on their prior success. Prior success in football coaching, just like investing and every other pursuit I can think of, does not ensure future success.

I agree we should not settle for mediocrity but neither should we be unduly impatient for success. Most importantly, based on the recent experiences of Penn State and Ohio State, we should never place winning above all else that is important to the reputation of the university.

*I apologize; I didn’t understand your comments about Mr. Selby.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 6 months ago

Help me understand a few coaches that after two years of horrible (or mediocre) records, they figured it out in 3 or 4?

bradynsdad 10 years, 6 months ago

I know be broke rules but I still say bring in tressel. Looks like he would be able to bring his whole staff from Ohio state. He broke rules but apparently having a nice, honorable curse free coach isn't working for us. Would still love to see turned stay on staff.

sheahoRn 10 years, 6 months ago

Ok, first let me say it is so early in the morning her and before some of you (eh-hem ahperse) jump to the conclusion that I'm just getting in, I'm not, that was last night. Today me and the boys from kusport are being driven miles into the jungle where we will be dropped off with a map, compass, machete, and we have to survive our way back.

Now in regards to Missouri State, oops, old habit from my previous job. Now in regards to Missouri. They are really in a lose lose situation. We really wished they would of stayed in conference and bowed down to the longhorns like the rest of us, but they chose not to. Instead they will be joining the sec and every week they will be experiencing something on the football field that their head coach recently experienced during his time in jail. So fair well old foes, we wish you the best!

And not that you need to be reminded...Don't drop the soap!

ccarp 10 years, 6 months ago

I know this first part will not be popular, but i hope Gill is allowed to find a defensive coordinator and have one more year.

As for the tigers, we need the Hawks to dig deep and play focused, intense, aggressive, and determined football for the final chapter in the border war. For Jayhawk nation, Coach Gill, Coach Fam, and Tommy Johnson!

Get this won! RCJH, Go KU!

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

If Gill does stay then a new dc is a must

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 6 months ago

Why do you want Coach Gill to stay for another year?

Help me understand a few coaches that have been dreadful after two years, all of sudden become good in year 3 or year 4?

troutsee 10 years, 6 months ago

When year two is worse than year one, acute indigestion sets in. A nice guy in the wrong job at the wrong time. Time to move on.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 6 months ago

Maybe. It seems that way, but one never knows what the future holds. We are at the place like the scene in the movie Hoosiers where they hold the town meeting to run the coach out of town. The similarities end there. But, picture the meeting, the nasty spirit of it. In my mind that is not the University of Kansas. To personify, KU is kind, patient, caring, noble, and class. That is why we cannot ever entertain hiring someone like Mike Leach. With that kind of image, even when we lose, we win. Is there losing with class? Of course there is. What real harm can be done by being patient? What real harm can be done by being supportive even in the face of poor performance? Now, weigh that against the harm of firing a very nice guy two years into a five-year contract. Which will make it harder to fill the position in the future if necessary?

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 6 months ago

He might have to, no one is committing. Last time I checked we had like 13 scholarships. 8 commits of which 2 are wavering, and only one defensive person.

John Mueller 10 years, 6 months ago

Beat Mizzou!

Then fire him.

As Chris Carter would say about Turner Gill, lose your opener, 6-3 to a Div II school, compile a 5-18 record in 2 years.........."C'mon Man!"

troutsee 10 years, 6 months ago

Heavens knows that Gill has worked his tail off for KU and has put in countless hours. It is kind of like studying for a test. Some put in a lot of time and accomplish nothing and others have the knack for doing it and produce positive results.

Unfortunately, Gill appears to be a good example of Peter's principle.

If he had had a dual threat QB, the losses would stlll have occurred but would not have be so embarrassing. So, he was operating (or coaching) with a stacked deck. Still, the scores and play on the field speak for themselves. Either way, to save recruiting, Zenger is going to have to make a rather quick decision after the MU game. On the other hand, to save the fans, he is going to have to bring in someone else. A victory or a nail biter against Mizzou might save him and preserve some fan support.

troutsee 10 years, 6 months ago

Heavens knows that Gill has worked his tail off for KU and has put in countless hours. It is kind of like studying for a test. Some put in a lot of time and accomplish nothing and others have the knack for doing it and produce positive results.

Unfortunately, Gill appears to be a good example of Peter's principle.

If he had had a dual threat QB, the losses would stlll have occurred but would not have be so embarrassing. So, he was operating (or coaching) with a stacked deck. Still, the scores and play on the field speak for themselves. Either way, to save recruiting, Zenger is going to have to make a rather quick decision after the MU game. On the other hand, to save the fans, he is going to have to bring in someone else. A victory or a nail biter against Mizzou might save him and preserve some fan support.

Mark Lindrud 10 years, 6 months ago

As much as I don't believe Gill is the answer I root for him to win each week, this week more than others. Nothing would make me happier than beating misery one last time in conference.

Theonlythingthatexceedsyourbad 10 years, 6 months ago

+1 - Easy to root for the Hawks, hard to root for the coach.

troutsee 10 years, 6 months ago

Heavens knows that Gill has worked his tail off for KU and has put in countless hours. It is kind of like studying for a test. Some put in a lot of time and accomplish nothing and others have the knack for doing it and produce positive results.

Unfortunately, Gill appears to be a good example of Peter's principle.

If he had had a dual threat QB, the losses would stlll have occurred but would not have be so embarrassing. So, he was operating (or coaching) with a stacked deck. Still, the scores and play on the field speak for themselves. Either way, to save recruiting, Zenger is going to have to make a rather quick decision after the MU game. On the other hand, to save the fans, he is going to have to bring in someone else. A victory or a nail biter against Mizzou might save him and preserve some fan support.

Jayhawk1116 10 years, 6 months ago

I totally like Steven Johnson, but did he really just compare the difficulties and struggles of life to a video game?!?

Andy Tweedy 10 years, 6 months ago

I thought what he was really saying was that the rest of us can only be coaches in a video game. Maybe I need to re-read, but that's what I got out of it (so I guess he did make the comparison). And I'm not picking on him, I'm about 100% sure he's right.

Pbbut 10 years, 6 months ago

Tony Sands record was a great performance. He never had any huge runs, the Hawks just lined up and kicked butt; "Toss sweep left, toss sweep right; here we come, stop us." One of the most miserable days for weather I've ever spent at Memorial Stadium, but I was warm all over, and it wasn't the alcohol.
Let me throw out one other thing...needless to say the incident (non-call) that is pictured at the top of this story is not the reason Turner Gill's job is in question, but officials seem to suffer very few consequences from their failures. Conference offices invariably support the ruling on the field with few exceptions. But realistically, they make a mistake they move on without consequence. That same "mistake" might cost another guy a $2M a year job.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

Agree with Zenger on the rivarly. I would prefer Texas to end its rivarly with A&M out of a sense of loyalty. We should do the same.

Jayhawkintexas1973 10 years, 6 months ago

There wouldn't be any distractions if:

  1. Gill coached
  2. If he had been fired an interim named
  3. If this team performed at the level they are capable of performing at, but Gill failed to coach
  4. If we weren't 2 and 9 instead of 5 and 6, which is what this team should be if the coaching staff had did their jobs, based on Texas Tech, Iowa State, Baylor(3 games we should have won), not to mention that we're better talent wise than Kansas State and, you got it, Missouri roster wide.
  5. If we had never had hired Gill to begin with.

Yosemite 10 years, 6 months ago

Better talent wise than Missouri. Really? Name one KU starter that would start for Mizzou.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 6 months ago

Only one? I don't think I can pick just one.

Geekinout 10 years, 6 months ago

NCAA Football 2012? In all seriousness, I think Gill could learn a lot about calling plays and game management if he played this on a daily basis.

Cmill1221 10 years, 6 months ago

I play it. And rebuilding isn't hard. All you need to do is go after JR COLLEGE TRANSFERS!! The bigger schools don't go after many of them and They are ready to play. So that being said do I now qualify for the Kansas Head Coach possition. I proved it on NCAA12

Cal Bender 10 years, 6 months ago

I'm sorry to hear about Harold Patterson dying. He was one of the best, and was a true gentleman. I had the privilege of being on the same KU team with him. I'm truly saddened by his passing.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 6 months ago

I just gained a ton of respect for Zenger, he really hit the nail on the head. As far as distractions with the Turner Gill satus, I'm not buyiing it. I don't think anyone's paying attention.

VaJay 10 years, 6 months ago

Hey everybody - pass this along - vote for Steven Johnson, he's a semifinalist (final 10 players) for The Burlsworth Trophy, given to the top player in college football that started as a walk-on. He's been amazing this year in spite of our team's troubles, leading the Big 12 in tackles.

You can only vote until Nov 28th. Get the word out!

http://BurlsworthTrophy.com/

Dirk Medema 10 years, 6 months ago

Glad I noticed yours before posting mine.

He's only got 3% of ATT vote at this point, and definitely deserves more.

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