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Former KU coach Mark Mangino on Colorado's radar

Colorado athletic director Mike Bohn swung and missed on his first two coaching hires, Dan Hawkins and Jon Embree. So it’s no surprise that the first name to surface as a candidate to become Colorado’s next coach is a proven winner hungry to get back into coaching: Mark Mangino.

Bohn, a 1983 graduate of Kansas University, where he played football and baseball, knows how tough it is to build a winning football program at KU. Bohn knows his KU history well enough to know that Mangino was the first football coach to leave Kansas with a winning record since Jack Mitchell.

Colorado is in the midst of seven consecutive losing seasons. Mangino inherited a Kansas program coming off six consecutive losing seasons.

If Bohn is allowed to make the hire, nobody should be surprised if he picks Mangino.

Living in Naples, Fla., Mangino’s interest in returning to the sidelines was put on hold last season while wife Mary Jane battled breast cancer. Friends are happy to report Mary Jane is doing well and has completed treatment.

“She’s given me a directive: Go find a coaching job,” Mangino told the Oklahoman in an October interview. “So we’ll see what happens. I don’t know where it will be. Could be anywhere.”

Could be Colorado.

If Mangino lands the job, he could become quarterback Jordan Webb’s first and fourth coach. Webb redshirted one season under Mangino at Kansas, played two for Turner Gill at KU and one for Embree at CU.

Mangino’s former assistants thriving

Dave Doeren left Mangino’s staff for Wisconsin, where he worked his way up to defensive coordinator. Doeren’s in his second season as head coach at Northern Illinois, where his team is 11-1 and ranked 19th in the nation. He has a two-year record of 22-4 (1-1 vs. KU) and is in line for a BCS conference job. His name has been mentioned in speculation for the Purdue job.

Doeren’s recruiting coups at Kansas included James Holt, Kevin Kane, James McClinton, Joe Mortensen, Mike Rivera, Darrell Stuckey and Aqib Talib.

Former KU defensive coordinator Bill Young left Mangino’s staff for Miami, where he spent one year and has been at Oklahoma State since then.

Ed Warinner, offensive coordinator for Mangino, left his job as Notre Dame’s offensive line coach to join Urban Meyer’s Ohio State staff as co-offensive coordinator/O-line coach.

Ineligible for the postseason, the Buckeyes went 12-0. He’s ready for a big head-coaching job.

John Reagan is offensive coordinator for the Rice squad that upset Kansas in Memorial Stadium in September.

David Beaty knows better than just about anybody the value of Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel’s Heisman Trophy worthiness. Beaty is the Aggies’ wide receivers coach. Brandon Blaney is a defensive assistant coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Bill Miller is assistant head coach/linebackers coach at Minnesota. Je’Ney Jackson is strength and conditioning coach for Tom Crean’s top-ranked Indiana basketball team.

Louie Matsakis handles special teams and running backs and is recruiting coordinator at Youngstown State, where Tom Sims is assistant head coach/defensive line.

Chris Dawson has been Kansas State’s strength and conditioning coach since getting fired with Mangino. Dawson reportedly accepted an offer from Washington State’s Mike Leach shortly after his hiring, but quickly changed his mind and decided to stay with Bill Snyder.

Tommy Mangino is Hutchinson Community College’s offensive coordinator. He apparently inherited his father’s fiery personality and was ejected late in an early season game Hutch won, 49-12.

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Comments

Scott Smetana 1 year, 8 months ago

The CU AD should ask Jordan Webb what he thought of Mangino.

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Rivethead 1 year, 8 months ago

I'm curious as to how. I thought Webb used the same rule that allowed Crist to come and play immediately. That rule saying that if you graduate you can transfer to another school (that has the grad program you want) and play one more year. I thought it was specific....one more year.

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Jonathan Allison 1 year, 8 months ago

It does seem odd that Webb was immediately eligible to play as a transfer to CU as a junior. Did he graduate in 3 years? Did he receive a hardship waiver from the NCAA? I don't remember hearing any of that.

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Saguaro_Jayhawk 1 year, 8 months ago

Webb did graduate by May 2012, but had TWO years eligibility left, not one. He started grad school at CU Fall 2012 semester. Different situation from Crist.

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John Randall 1 year, 8 months ago

Depends how much he learned about bullies eventually finding out there's always someone bigger . . .

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Brennan Keller 1 year, 8 months ago

I really wished Zenger would have hired Doeren as our head coach.... Don't get me wrong, Weis has a great coaching staff and he has improved the state of this program, but I just do not feel that he is committed to Kansas for the long run. Having the opportunity to coach at Kansas would have been Doeren's dream job! I do believe the Weis will get this thing turned around though!

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Matt Tait 1 year, 8 months ago

Check out this quote from Weis' press conference today:

“I love when people say, ‘Why did you take this job,’” Weis said. “I didn’t take the job to go 1-10. I took it because I felt that this would be a challenge, taking this team and turning it from a program at the bottom to back to not only respectability but being a perennial winning football team. And that’s what I intend to do before I leave here. I might be here a long time, but that’s just the way it’s gonna have to be.”

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Keith Hummel 1 year, 8 months ago

Love that quote!!! Maybe I'm imagining things but it seems like Coach Weis has become more attached to KU as time has gone on. Initially I don't recall him saying things like that, but increasingly he seems more interested in putting roots in Lawrence. His stated commitment to the long-term task of rebuilding this program is the best news I've heard in a while. As frustrated as I am with this year's record I do think we made huge progress, and I believe Weis will indeed eventually turn KU Football into a perennial winner. Thanks for sharing that quote Matt.

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Rivethead 1 year, 8 months ago

Charlie Weis has always been good at saying what people want to hear. Pretty sure he said something very similar about a week into the Florida job. Something about buying a horse farm and planning to live there the rest of his life.

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Eric TheCapn 1 year, 8 months ago

Also, this just in: Roy Williams doesn't give a sh*t about North Carolina.

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danmoore 1 year, 8 months ago

Doeren was high on my list too. Hope he doesn't end up in Manhattan.

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Kyle Sybesma 1 year, 8 months ago

I live in Colorado and listened to sports radio today and you would think most of the conversation would be about a new coach but they want Bohn out. They don't beleive he has earned the right to hire a 3rd coach. Most beleive that CU is missing the boat on the new landscape of college football. One major obsticle Colorado schools face is that they can't sign coordinators to more than a one year contract.

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KEITHMILES05 1 year, 8 months ago

Mangio won't be able to tolerate the high altitude.

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MoralVictory 1 year, 8 months ago

If CU was still in our league, I'd beg them to hire Mangino. As it is, who cares? If the CU A.D. hires the donut-eater, then the A.D. might as well polish up his resume.

Mangino will resurface as a coordinator somewhere. Nothing more. Ever.

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mikehawk 1 year, 8 months ago

The program, despite the record, seems headed in the right direction. We need players, and we need to stick with a coach and allow him a chance to build a program. I like his talk about KU. This football program building stuff takes time. We really have no choice but to stay the course and learn to be KU football fans with tradition.

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milehighhawk 1 year, 8 months ago

"The first name to surface..." From who? Where?

Couldn't blame CU for giving Mangino a call, but absent an actual, you know, source -- seems like a little spitballing.

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Eric TheCapn 1 year, 8 months ago

It's the first name to surface from a blog called "Double-chin Music" and a writer who looks like he's smoking a blunt in his profile pic.

You might want to find a new name for the blog, Tom, because I didn't realize "Double-chin Music" was your blog name at first on the KUSports home page. Out of the context of the blog as a whole, it just looked like an insulting headline: "Double-chin Music Former KU coach Mark Mangino on Colorado’s radar."

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Joe Joseph 1 year, 8 months ago

"Former KU coach Mark Mangino on Colorado's radar"

ZING! Another Mangino-is-fat joke!

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Chris Bruning 1 year, 8 months ago

don't forget "hungry to get back into coaching".......

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Eric Dawson 1 year, 8 months ago

Coming from Keegan, no less. Riiiight...

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doolindalton 1 year, 8 months ago

Amen! Weis will be very fortunate to duplicate what Mangino did at KU.

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johninkc1 1 year, 8 months ago

So far Mangino has been the best KU coach in my lifetime. Orange Bowl win and then an Insight Bowl win. We should have stood by Mangino and gotten rid of Perkins. Perkins left you may remember after the ticket scandel that he supposedly didn't know about but should have. I wish Mangino nothing but the best. He gave us a BCS Orange Bowl victory which I attended. I won't hold my breath for the next KU BCS or whatever the heck it will be called soon. I hope Weiss succeeds by the way.

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stm62 1 year, 8 months ago

Mangino was a good coach who hired good assistants, but it also helps when a certain unsolicited quarterback comes walking in to your office.

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MartyrMangino 1 year, 8 months ago

Todd Reesing and Coach Mangino helped each other out (that is what teams are supposed to do). However, Coach Mangino went to bowl games with Whittemore, Swanson, and Reesing. He also won a national championship at Oklahoma. In addition, when KU won the Orange Bowl, we did it with a good defense. Todd hasn't done anything since leaving KU, but Coach Mangino has had national success during the Kansas State run in the 90s, with Oklahoma, and at KU (where he never had the opportunity to compete with the strength and conditioning facilities and momentum he created from the Orange Bowl season).

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danmoore 1 year, 8 months ago

Mangino recruited Reesing and chose him as the starter over Meier. It's not like he walked into Mangino's office and said here I am. I think he deserves some credit.

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Eric Dawson 1 year, 8 months ago

While it is true Reesing did not "walk into Mangino's office", he was not high on Mangino's recruiting radar, or anyone else's (Scout 2, Rivals 3). Mangino and Tim Beck came across him in their Texas travels, had a scholly to offer and offered it. Todd felt it was the best offer he had (the only two others he had were KState with Snyder retired and Duke), which is why he came to KU. Recall that Mangino ran with Meier as far as he could in 2006 (IIRC it was an injury to Meier that got Reesing into the CU game that year). Recall that even though KU won it's last 3 games of 2006 with true freshman Reesing behind center, the starting job was still up for grabs between Reesing and Meier going into the 2007 season. So yeah, Mangino does deserves some credit for eventually recognizing what he had in Reesing, but the truth is Reesing was a "take a chance" recruit because of his size, and Mangino and Kansas got lucky with the lad decding to come to Lawrence.

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milwaukeeJAYHAWK 1 year, 8 months ago

Mangino would be a great hire. He took KU from a doormat to a respectable team.

Even if 2007 was a fluke, he still had really good years in 03, 05, 06 and 08. Let's not pretend like Mangino was just a lucky guy one 11-1 season. He had our program well-disciplined, something that fell apart under Gill and is now just getting repaired......

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jhox 1 year, 8 months ago

All true, but let's also not forget that he quit recruiting and the wheels fell off his last year at KU. He would still have a job if not for that fact. He definitely left the cupboard bare.

I appreciate Mark Mangino and what he gave KU, but people want to remember him like he was flawless, and that's simply not the case.

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Rivethead 1 year, 8 months ago

Of course the wheels fell of his last year. His boss was holding secret meetings with his team behind his back. Truth be told, it was Perkins coaching the team during the second half of that season, not Mangino.

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milwaukeeJAYHAWK 1 year, 8 months ago

Yeah, but he still won 5 games. I'll take a one down year vs. 2-10 or 1-11. We don't really know that KU was in an inescapable dive because he didn't have more seasons after that.

Maybe his next year would have been 6-6 or something? Who knows? I think Gill just had low discipline with his players and the same guys could not perform as well for him as for Mangino.

I don't think he was flawless at all.....but I'd say he was respectable and could at least keep KU at .500 and maybe dip above it occasionally. Hell....i'd love a bowl game about now, any bowl!

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MartyrMangino 1 year, 8 months ago

Coach Mangino's last recruiting class was ranked 4th in the Big 12 by Rivals. That was his best rated class in his whole career at KU. I just wanted to make sure you knew the opposite of what you said is true.

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Noweigh 1 year, 8 months ago

mangino would be a great hire for them, just like he was for KU. Great lineage, no BS, knows what it takes to build a sustainable program. Did he make mistakes, yes. Was he the best pure football coaching mind in KU history? You can easily make the case that he was.

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Jonathan Allison 1 year, 8 months ago

I highly doubt that CU (or any other major football program) will hire Mangino as Head Coach. It is a huge gamble to hire a coach who was fired under allegations of player abuse/mistreatment. Look at the Mike Leach fiasco at WSU. Granted the end is not yet written for Leach, but whether true or fictional, it is not easy for a head coach to shake a bad reputation. Recruits will take notice. Will they want to play for a coach who has a reputation for having bad relationships with his staff and players? Can the administration trust a coach that was fired amidst allegations of abuse?

It's an enormous risk, and big business prefers low to moderate risk moves.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 8 months ago

Not sure it's as big a problem as you think. First of all, Lew Perkins' little scandal overshadowed, if not negated, the Mangino accusations. It was clear Perkins decided to conduct a little witch hunt to draw attention elsewhere.

And as for the so-called physical abuse...someone explain to me how Mark Mangino could physically strangle a college football player of that size. Doubtful...and truth embelished. As for his demeanor and the things he said...necessary with some of the spoiled stupid players we had on the roster. He was about discipline, and he made sure discipline was enforced. Ask players like Todd Reesing, Kerry Meier, and Brandon McAnderson how they feel about Mangino. They were willing to work and do what's right.

My point is Leach's reputation as a bully is much more publicized and previlant. Mangino will be a good hire for any college program that needs major reconstruction. He "lost the team" his last year because of Perkins' little players-only meeting. He turned them on their coach.

I just wish it was

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Dyrk Dugan 1 year, 8 months ago

i've said all along that Dave Doeren should be our next head coach. whether or not he was ready last year, i don't know....but obviously our AD didn't...and we have to trust him.

that being said, we'll be taking a chance if he goes more than one or two years, and isn't hired on as a head coach. HCCW has said in the past, that he doesn't intend to be at KU more than five years.....so, we need to have our next coach in mind. now, if that's changed, then that's a bit of news.

if Doeren isn't hired this year by a Big 10 school or somewhere else, then we probably should hire him next year as the coach designate. make him associate head coach...since we don't have an o-coordinator there is a spot for him...and when Weis says enough is enough, he takes over.

it would help in our recruiting andthe future would be secured. Doeren will only turn 41 in a few days...he grew up in Kansas City, has already recruited very good football players to Kansas....so he knows how to do it. and then working with Coach Weis, would only help his overall knowledge of the game and his career. it's a win-win for sure.

Mangino to CU? that would be fun....i don't think they could go wrong with that. I think Mark is a born coach....he's old school...but i think he' s probably itching to get back in.

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danmoore 1 year, 8 months ago

I'd love to have him as our coach in waiting but there are already 5 coaching vacancies and more to come. If K-State beats Texas and goes to a BCS bowl I think there is a good chance this is Snyder's last year.

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Reuben_J_Cogburn 1 year, 8 months ago

I like it.

I'd like it even more if he had never left KU.

But CU should explore that option.

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notjustbread 1 year, 8 months ago

I know the AD at CU is a Jayhawk, but why does their football program accept taking our leftovers?

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1 year, 8 months ago

Mangino's former Assistant Strength Coach and former player, Joe Vaughn, is a Strength Training Coach for the Tampa Bay Buchaneers.

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Steve Williams 1 year, 8 months ago

A. Nice blog name,, double chin music,, i get it, he is fat.. lols,,, stay classy keegs..(psst look at your profile pic, you are not exactly wasting away)

B. Are you really citing Rantsports.com? the same page who had Kevin Sumlin going to Arkansas.

Man i wish i had your job, got a press pass to all sorts of events to just vomit garbage all over the best Ku page, you make Jason Whitlock look like howard Cosell

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David Meredith 1 year, 8 months ago

In some ways Mangino will be remembered more fondly here because he was fired after 2009. He did a good job at KU, with the benefit of some good assistants, but I think the last 3 years would have been rough with him at he helm... the talent was bare when he left, and no Reesing, Briscoe, or Meier on offense.

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thekansasboy19871967 1 year, 8 months ago

I blame the last three years on big daddy lew he did not like Mangino

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thekansasboy19871967 1 year, 8 months ago

after they let Mangino go,look what happen to big daddy lew.he did not last long.Name one football coach for ku that had a record like Mangino did?Name ONE?

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