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Tuesday, March 29, 2011

Marcus Morris tapped 2nd-team All-America

Kansas forward Marcus Morris pleads to Markieff Morris and Brady Morningstar to get it together against Virginia Commonwealth during the first half on Sunday, March 27, 2011 at the Alamodome in San Antonio.

Kansas forward Marcus Morris pleads to Markieff Morris and Brady Morningstar to get it together against Virginia Commonwealth during the first half on Sunday, March 27, 2011 at the Alamodome in San Antonio.

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Kansas University junior forward Marcus Morris was named second-team All-America by The Associated Press Monday.

Marcus’ brother, Markieff, earned honorable mention.

Marcus Morris led Kansas in scoring in 2010-11 with a 17.2 scoring average. The 6-9 Philadelphia native ranks among the national leaders in field goal percentage at 57.0 percent and his 7.6 rebounds per contest were second on the team. He had two of his nine double-doubles on the season in the NCAA Tournament and he was named to NCAA Southwest Regional All-Tournament team on Sunday.

As far as the first team, seniors dominated for the first time in five years.

Jimmer Fredette of BYU, Nolan Smith of Duke and JaJuan Johnson of Purdue, all seniors, were joined on the team by junior Kemba Walker of Connecticut and freshman Jared Sullinger of Ohio State.

It’s the most seniors since four made the 2006 team.

Fredette led the country in scoring at 28.5 points per game (40.4 percent from three).

He received all but one vote from the 65-member national media panel that selects the weekly Top 25.

He is BYU’s first All-America since Danny Ainge in 1981.

“If you go out and play your game and have confidence in yourself, you can accomplish great things,” Fredette said. “That’s what I’ve always said in my head, and it’s worked out.”

Smith, who received 61 votes, averaged 21.3 points, 4.6 rebounds and 5.2 assists. Smith is the fifth Duke player to be an All-America since 2000; two of them — Jason Williams and J.J. Redick — were selected twice.

Sullinger averaged 17.2 points and 10.1 rebounds while shooting 53.6 percent. The 6-foot-9 Sullinger, the seventh freshman All-America over the last five years, received 58 votes.

Walker averaged 23.5 points, 5.3 rebounds and 4.3 assists and was the leader of one of the youngest teams in the country.

The 6-10 Johnson was Purdue’s inside presence, averaging 20.5 points, 8.2 rebounds and 2.3 blocks. He was the first Boilermaker chosen to the first team since Glenn Robinson in 1994. Johnson returned to Purdue after considering leaving for the NBA.

Marcus Morris was joined on the second team by Derrick Williams of Arizona, Ben Hansbrough of Notre Dame, Jordan Taylor of Wisconsin and Kawhi Leonard of San Diego State.

Fredette and Johnson were both on the preseason All-America team, along with Kyle Singler of Duke, Jacob Pullen of Kansas State and Harrison Barnes of North Carolina.

Comments

RockCaCO3 3 years, 5 months ago

Well thats a bunch of bullsh!t. 2nd team?

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WilburNether 3 years, 5 months ago

Ummm...

Would anyone but an idiot fanboi think that Morris had a better year and was more deserving than any of the first team selections?

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Joe Joseph 3 years, 5 months ago

You could argue Morris is more deserving than Jajuan Johnson. Johnson averaged 7 more mpg than Marcus (35 v. 28). Had Marcus played that many mpg, he would have easily averaged 20 and 10 (Jajuan averages 20 & 8.5). Morris has the highest points-per-40-minutes of any of the 1st-team bigs.

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FSUJHAWK 3 years, 5 months ago

Don't you love the east coast media!?!?

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sabd 3 years, 5 months ago

agree. but derrick williams is the one that got hosed.

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kansas25 3 years, 5 months ago

Great season for Marcus, but the five that were named on the first team had better seasons. The numbers don't lie. Everyone averaged more points a game than Marcus. The two post players averaged more rebounds. Good list. The right list.

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REHawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Congratulations to Marcus and Markieff for outstanding play this season. Is a tribute to the Jayhawk program to view two of our players on the All-America honors list. Kansas big men have thrived under the current coaching/training staff. Jeff and Thomas, stay determined. Your time is coming.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

So much "tapping," so little time.

Marcus deserved better.

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CherryCreekHawk 3 years, 5 months ago

The real story that no one seems to be talking about -- including the appendage of the KU sports information operation, the JW -- is the pattern of failure by KU in recent years to beat significantly under seeded opponents. Bradley, Bucknell, Northern Iowa, and now VCU.

So what's the story about this? And when it somebody going to ask the two million dollar man, Bill Self, why the pattern of defeat against these types of teams seems to continue unabated? It's one thing to humiliate CU on a regular basis, but unfortunate reality is that Bill Self coached teams -- setting aside the miracle of 2008 -- are pretty pedestrian when it comes to the Big Dance.

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Sam Brockert 3 years, 5 months ago

I'll Post this again:

Here are Duke's stats in the same time frame Self has been coach at KU.

2003–04 Mike Krzyzewski 31–6 13–3 1st NCAA Final Four 2004–05 Mike Krzyzewski 27–6 11–5 3rd NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2005–06 Mike Krzyzewski 32–4 14–2 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2006–07 Mike Krzyzewski 22–11 8–8 T-6th NCAA First Round 2007–08 Mike Krzyzewski 28–6 13–3 2nd NCAA Second Round 2008–09 Mike Krzyzewski 30–7 11–5 T-2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2009–10 Mike Krzyzewski 35–5 13–3 T-1st National Champions 2010–11 Mike Krzyzewski 32–5 13–3 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen

And here are Self's Tournament stats.

2003-04 Bill Self 24-9 12-4 T-2 Elite Eight 2004-05 Bill Self 23-7 12-4 T-1 First Round 2005-06 Bill Self 25-8 13-3 T-1 First Round 2006-07 Bill Self 33-5 14-2 1 Elite Eight 2007-08 Bill Self 37-3 13-3 T-1 National Champions 2008-09 Bill Self 27-8 14-2 1 Sweet Sixteen 2009-10 Bill Self 33-3 15-1 1 Second Round 2010-11 Bill Self 35-2 14-2 1 Elite Eight

With the exception of the Final four duke has in that tine span, Bill Self's tournament record isn't bad. Look at all the sweet sixteen exits Duke has? They either reach the final four or lose in the sweet sixteen. They also have first and second round losses. In fact that first year KU went to the elite eight the number 1 seeded Kentucky in KU's bracket got knocked out in the second round by UAB. So obviously it happens...

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Sam Brockert 3 years, 5 months ago

I will post this again:

Here are Duke's Tournament finishes in the same time frame Self has been coach at KU.

2003–04 Mike Krzyzewski 31–6 13–3 1st NCAA Final Four 2004–05 Mike Krzyzewski 27–6 11–5 3rd NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2005–06 Mike Krzyzewski 32–4 14–2 1st NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2006–07 Mike Krzyzewski 22–11 8–8 T-6th NCAA First Round 2007–08 Mike Krzyzewski 28–6 13–3 2nd NCAA Second Round 2008–09 Mike Krzyzewski 30–7 11–5 T-2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen 2009–10 Mike Krzyzewski 35–5 13–3 T-1st National Champions 2010–11 Mike Krzyzewski 32–5 13–3 2nd NCAA Sweet Sixteen

And here are Self's Tournament stats.

2003-04 Bill Self 24-9 12-4 T-2 Elite Eight 2004-05 Bill Self 23-7 12-4 T-1 First Round 2005-06 Bill Self 25-8 13-3 T-1 First Round 2006-07 Bill Self 33-5 14-2 1 Elite Eight 2007-08 Bill Self 37-3 13-3 T-1 National Champions 2008-09 Bill Self 27-8 14-2 1 Sweet Sixteen 2009-10 Bill Self 33-3 15-1 1 Second Round 2010-11 Bill Self 35-2 14-2 1 Elite Eight

With the exception of the Final four duke has in that tine span, Bill Self's tournament record isn't bad. Look at all the sweet sixteen exits Duke has? They either reach the final four or lose in the sweet sixteen. They also have first and second round losses. In fact that first year KU went to the elite eight the number 1 seeded kentucky in KU's bracket got knocked out in the second round by UAB. So obviously it happens...

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Ludwig Supraphonic 3 years, 5 months ago

The J-W does provide a Hx of website comments. Yours are interesting. "Self doesn't have a prayer against Roy" "KU team simply doesn't have it" "winning the Big Dance, about as much chance as the Chiefs have of making the AFC championship game next January". Admittedly, it was a wonderful surprise to me when we won the 2008 NC. My point isn't that we can all be wrong sometimes. My thought is regarding the tendency to arise every couple of years following a loss to cull out the facts to support a pre-existing hypothesis.

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addlime 3 years, 5 months ago

They lost to Bradley, Bucknell, and Northern Iowa. But they beat a lot more underseeded opponents, including Boston, Illinois, and Richmond this year. This is the big dance. Everyone can play, and a .600 winning percentage in the tournament is considered great. If I'm not mistaken, Self is 27 and 11 which makes for better than .700. That winning percentage is reasonable compared to a total winning percentage at KU of just better than .800. And if you don't like this number, consider that his winning percentage is best over a 5 year period of all coaches all time, excluding Calipari's vacated near championship season.

VCU is the hottest team in the country. They demolished a solid Purdue team. They are making everything right now. Sorry, but if you just look at the seed, you are an idiot. Using the eye test over the first 3 games of the tourney (and looking at stats frankly), I agree that VCU was an underdog, but only a slight one.

All this being said, I'm disappointed this team didn't realize its potential in the tourney. I'm sure Bill Self is also. But its a tribute to his recruiting ability that this team is such a high seed every season. And its a tribute to both he and his staff that the players on this team improved so much both during the season and before it, that they could post this gaudy record and give us such high expectations to begin with. And its a tribute to the fan base, that they show up with such passion at home and away and inspire this team to play their hardest night in and night out, playing above their talent, and leaving them with the impossible job of consistently playing up to their incredibly high NCAA tourney seeding.

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justinryman 3 years, 5 months ago

CONGRATS!!!! Something to build and and take into next year and go for First team and consensus All American.

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zsn 3 years, 5 months ago

I'm guessing it's better than 50-50 that the Morrii are returning..........based on nothing other than gut feel, hope and "body-language"......anyone know the details of the labor negotiations in the NBA and when fit hits the shan?

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

"Self's VCU Could Get Betters or Obvious Things that Should Have Been Done Starting Ten Minutes into the First Half:"

(Warning: Some criticism coming, but read to the end. I think he's a great coach.)

Waited a couple days to list these to let the stings--yours and mine--ease.

No, this isn't one of my intentionally humorous "Some Things..." lists. It is meant to be taken seriously.

No coach is perfect. Each coach has off days. Against VCU, Self's coaching was as off as KU's trey shooting. Self has been fabulous most of the season. Self being off is so rare, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

What follows does not imply I am down on him. I am very up on him. I think he will learn a ton from getting out-coached in the VCU loss. Every coach gets out coached occasionally. The great competitors get better.

I've tried to list what reasonably should have been recognized in the scouting report, or in the moment of the game, not arm-chair-style, 20/20 hindsights.

To be clear, I wouldn't trade him for any coach. He's still a basketball genius and the best coach out there right now. But even the Beatles and Mozart wrote some clinkers. And Wooden struggled ten years to learn how to win the tournament, and when he did, even he missed out one year out of eleven.

So: this seems as good of a place and time to post these, as any.

~Should have slowed pace ten minutes into first half. KU players were bent over by then and clearly could not compete at VCU's fast pace. KU had spent too much of its players' energy budgets vs. Richmond. Waiting to half time to walk the ball just guarantied the players would run out of juice sooner in the second half. And slowing the game worked very well, when he finally chose to do so.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

~Should have cleared out the side for Tyshawn and EJ to take Rodriquez to the rim on the dribble. The threes weren't falling. VCU was committed to taking away the Twins at any cost. Self's team needed an edge. Rodriguez was only 5'10" and couldn't possibly have stopped either of them in a clear out.

~Should have posted EJ up on Rodriguez for the same reasons as above. Should played EJ half the remaining minutes, cleared the side, and posted EJ up on Rodriguez. EJ is 6'4" tall. Rodriguez was 5'10." That was the greatest single MUA KU had anywhere on floor. This and the preceding would have given KU all the scoring it needed. It would have fouled Rodriguez out and VCU talent dropped off big at PG after Rodriguez.

~Should have gone to Releford, the first half. Ten minutes in, KU couldn't get any spark out of Brady who had a freeze dried shooting hand. Brady was playing fine defense and a good floor game, but he needed more rest than he got to go hard to the end of the game. When 6'3" Selby also couldn't spark against VCU's tough 6'6" three, and KU couldn't get untracked anywhere else on the floor, Releford was the logical choice to seek some spark out of the three and give Brady plenty of rest to make him effective down the stretch of the second half and maybe get his shooting legs back. At ten minutes in, KU was not getting any spark anywhere on the court. With Little required at the 4, Releford was the right guy to try, if you weren't going to clear out for Tyshawn and EJ, and if you weren't going post EJ up.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

The rest of the 7 part post seem to have gotten in a bit of a jumble. Apologies.

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Lance Hobson 3 years, 5 months ago

I just can't blame Self, I think he did all he good to get his guys going. You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip, and that's what Reed and Morningstar were in that game. Kevin Harlan had a great description of a furious self on the sideline after VCU got up 17-10, it really seemed like he was trying to will them to get it together.

Is there anything a coach can say to a player to get him to stop missing? I doubt it, especially when they're not that great to begin with. I recall coach K kneeling down and talking to JJ Redick on the bench during his tourney meltdown a few years ago, the announcers said that was odd, perhaps a sign of desperationg. It didn't help, and he was actually a good shooter.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

There are so many things Coach Self could not have done in this game. Willing them back to full energy. Willing them to have a hot hand. One could almost enumerate and endless list.

But the point of my list of "Should Have Been Dones at the Ten Minute Mark of the First Half" is that there was a sizeable list of things that could have and should have been done that would almost certainly have tipped the balance in KU's favor.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

~Should have shown some zone-m2m switching--to create some misreads and to slow the game, despite VCU's hot hand, switching was almost mandatory. Switching between zone and man always slows a game down for 3-4 trips, while an opponent tries to adapt to reading the switching. Zoning protects fouled up, exhausted bigs. It also masks Little, who was to short and small to defend them m2m, but who had to play because of TRob's fouls. Zoning is not a moral evil, when the first order of business is trying to shake an opponent out of its comfort zone. And when a team is already killing you from trey in your m2m, there is no loss at all in going to switching between m2m2 and zone to try to force them into read errors. It is a false assumption that you don't go to switching between zone and m2m, when an opponent is hot outside and on a roll. And remember, VCU was not a great trey shooting team. It shot only 36% for the season, and had been on a 4 game hot streak. The odds were that their hot hand would break during the game sometime, regardless of the kind of defense played. And, in fact, they did go cold as an Icey the second half.

~Use Reserves to Foul Hard--KU needed to use the reserves to foul them hard at the ten minute mark right before rotating their starters back in. Overall, the VCU refs called about the same number of fouls on both teams. But the refs gave VCU vastly more no calls on fouls; this is indisputable. Also, KU was being called for reaching and light contact fouls, where as VCU was only being called for the most egregious hacks and shoves. It doesn't make any difference why. Maybe VCU's better conditioning and associated appearance of quickness made the refs see contact asymmetrically. Maybe the refs were instructed to keep the KU "bullies" on a short leash. Maybe the refs were instructed to ensure another Eastern Time Zone team reached the Final Four for ratings purposes. Maybe the sports broadcasting-gaming industry complex needed a KU loss to balance some books. It doens't matter why. In this situation, there are only two ways to go to get the refs to start calling fouls symmetrically:

a) XTReme Cheap Shotting Lite, which costs a T and risks an ejection; or

b) hard fouling.

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justiceseeker2011 3 years, 5 months ago

Use Reserves to Foul Hard--KU needed to use the reserves to foul them hard at the ten minute mark right before rotating their starters back in.

Very valid point and smart coaching tactic. Self should take notes. He was obviously outcoached but wont admit that. Loser.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Part 4

Given the favoritism already being shown VCU, Cheap Shot Lite was not the answer, because the refs probably would have ejected any KU player that did it. So: the default is hard fouling. Hard fouling in a slowed down game would have forced the refs to call more fouls on both ends to keep it under control. There is no doubt at all about this.

~Scouting Report Should Have Read Chase Less and Switch More in M2M to Counter VCU's Long Cut Offense--VCU tries to turn games into a conditioning vs. muscle contest. To do this, they run what I call a "long cut" offense. Most of their plays involve running cuts across 1/2 to 2/3s of half court. It forces a big team to chase all over the floor, not so much run through picks. It is a wind sprint offense. It completely wore KU down by the ten minute mark of each half. Self and the coach that scouted VCU should have pulled in the defense, rather than extend it. They should have encouraged as much switching as possible to save steps. Instead, KU walked right into the trap and Self instead of adapting exhorted his players to guard the trey stripe even more. Smart probably knew he could win at least the first half at that very moment, because Self and his staff were being sucked in and not making the proper counter move. KU ran themselves out of gas chasing VCU. I did not watch VCU before hand. I just analyzed VCU from stats, and what I could learn about Smart, so I missed this part of their strategy. But no coach or assistant coach should have missed this from viewing game video of VCU. And even if this was a surprise tactic, by ten minutes in it was obvious what VCU was doing and it was time to adjust. And in fact, KU did exactly what it should have done. It quit chasing so far out, and sagged more. It did not try to hug them so closely on their long cuts, but instead sagged and used angles with fewer steps to meet them at their eventual destinations...until VCU started pressing again, sped KU up again, and KU players began chasing again, out of their season long virtuous habit of pressure defense.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Part 5

~Should Have Sliced the Press Instead of Bringing It Up Mano-a-Mano, or Long Passing It--The team has long mastered slicing the MU press. It either forgot everything it learned, or the VCU press was a weird hybrid press that was really a heavily masked, match-up zone press of some kind. It was Self's inability to solve the VCU press that finally undid KU. KU could not solve it the first half. And Smart wisely withdrew it the first ten minutes of the second half, so KU players would not be fresh in implementing counter measures Self directed his players to use the second half. By the time Smart reasserted the VCU press, KU's players were too tired from coming back, and to removed from Self's half time solution, if there even was one, to implement the counter measures and overcome the disruption of VCU's press. As a result, KU's run was stopped, and VCU got 6-7 points separation that KU could never overcome, because it could never overcome the disruptive effects of the VCU press. Game. Set. Match. Smart beats Self. VCU beats KU with a lot of help from asymmetries in no call fouls by the refs favoring VCU.

In closing, it would be unfair to have expected Self to think of implement everything above by the ten minute mark of the first half. But on his good days, he would have thought of at least 2, or 3, of these "should haves." And he would have thought of all of them by the second half on his good days, except maybe the switching between m2m and zone. This really does seem a blind spot of his that tracks down deep into his philosophy.

Nine games out of ten, Self would have adjusted to enough of the above, or two KU players among Brady, Tyrel, Tyshawn, Selby, EJ, Marcus and Kieff--all terrific shooters--would have finally found the trey range.

Self weighed the odds and decided that the surest bet was to stand pat, and wait for the KU shooters, even with tired legs, to find the range, and hope VCU went cold.

It was very sound reasoning, assuming one was not going to make most of the adjustments above, except slowing the game down.

Self bet right on VCU going cold. They went so cold the second half that KU came back from 15 down to two down.

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justiceseeker2011 3 years, 5 months ago

In closing, it would be unfair to have expected Self to think of implement everything above by the ten minute mark of the first half. But on his good days, he would have thought of at least 2, or 3, of these "should haves." And he would have thought of all of them by the second half on his good days, except maybe the switching between m2m and zone. This really does seem a blind spot of his that tracks down deep into his philosophy. -Id like to see you on his staff he could definitely use your council.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Part 6

Self bet wrong on KU shooters finding the range. With so many good shooters and such an awful percentage the first half, it was a sound bet. Self had probably never had a team shoot 9.5% from trey. The only thing close to it was last year's 12%. All Self needed was for KU to improve to 20% from trey and it was a win. Now, do you see why Self stood pat. As always, he was very sound in his reasoning.

But his sound reasoning about shooting was undone not only by a continued cold hand. It was done in by three more critical things that could almost certainly have delivered victory even with the freakishly cold shooting from trey:

First, Self, not his team, underestimated how much gas was in his team's tank (even ordinary coaches are supposed to be able to read that) and waited ten minutes too long to slow the game down, and shorten up the defense (i.e., reduce the chasing), and so turn it into a muscle game and not a conditioning game.

Second, Self, not his team, failed to exploit the heavy MUA over Rodriguez the entire game, and so resigned the team to no effective offense till it was too far behind.

Third, Self, not his team, failed to come up with effective tactics for breaking the VCU press...ever.

A very, very, very tough loss on a day when our great coach simply was not at his best.

He will never admit it and he should not. He comes from the never complain, never explain school and it works for him and so he should stick to it. But his voice after the game was weaker and quieter than I have ever heard it and from that I infer he knew full well that he had not been at his best, when he needed it.

Last year, I thought the players poor performances and the opposing teams style of play was mostly responsible, and I did not see a large number of mistakes made by Self...some mistakes but not a decisive list of them. Once again he soundly banked on the percentages of the shooters getting untracked the second half. And it was only a two point loss that came down to a last possession. And fatigue that should have been recognized, was not part of the loss. Versus NIU, one could see a few wrinkles that might have been done differently, but there appeared no clear change in tactics that would certainly have delivered a win IMHO.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Part 7

But this year, slowing the game at ten minutes, shortening up the defense to end the chasing sooner, finding a fix for the press, and posting up Rodriguez all game long until he fouled out, would have won this game for certain. Even doing only two of them would probably have brought victory.

Every coach has to cost his team a big victory a few times in his career. Wooden, Dean and Roy certainly did. Self has nothing to be ashamed of. He has everything to be proud of. Everyone strikes out occasionally, when they got to the plate. As Michael Jordan always says, I had to miss several thousand shots to make the ones I made. Self has to miss some opportunities to make some. He needs to forget all of that nonsense that was briefly in his head about needing to cash in when you have the chances. He is so exceptional a coach that he will make many more chances even if he has a couple tough rebuilding seasons a head. And he needs to remember that he has not blown one opportunity in the Finals. :-) Most of the great coaches have blown a couple of those. Lighten up Coach Self. This was one game in one season. It is just a chance to get better and be even more ready for the next opportunity.

Folks that want to brand you permanently this way or that are always behind the curve. In life, everything is live and dynamic and evolving. Labels are necessarily oversimplifications. Branding is all static and rear viewing. You are growing tremendously as a coach every season, Coach Self. This will only stop you if you let it. You won't let it.

The persons that talk about patterns of failure, that ignore rings in the midst of "patterns of failure," are merely talking about chances to get better in a sport in which all but one team ends in a pattern of failure every season.

Rock Chalk! and Next!

Rock Chalk to the greatest coach in college basketball today.

Don't we all?

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

An interesting suggestion, hiring a motivation assistant. It could also be a sports psychologist.

On the other hand, 35 times this season Self had them motivated correctlly, against only 3 times they were not sufficiently motivated to get the W..

Maybe the motivational assistant will only work on the days Self is not feeling on his game. :-)

Self called this a weird team at mid season. I recall, because I made a paintograph about it.

I think there were many times this season when he could not keep the interpersonal dynamics and sub groups operating predictably.

What I mean is some teams just are more complicated in their individual and group personalities, and teams take on the charactertistics of the their leaders.

Stop an think about what Self juggled.

A twin relationship.

A guy who lost most of his family.

A guy with a 42 inch vertical who played a horizontal game until 2/3s of the way through his senior season, when the coach finally gave him a nudge and said "maybe" it would be good to use his bounce.

An OAD who only bailed out of UTenn because Pearl got busted and who, even though he is reputedly a great prospect, struggled mightily with playing out of position, because Self couldn't hand him the reigns at PG and have him leave the program with no one trained next season.

One point guard who had never played point guard before, who has struggled with concentration through out his career, and who finally came to Self and said he just had too many personal things in his life to concentrate on basketball.

A sophomore back up point guard with awesome ability. who was literally throwing the ball across court to no one part of the time and into his own coaches hands another time.

A senior 3 who had the biggest shooting slump in recorded history.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

A one time super prospect footer, who reputedly lost 30 pounds and reputedly couldn't keep the plays straight.

And on an on.

A one time super prospect 3/4 swing man, who never passed up a shot, when all he needed to do was defend and rebound.

And on and on.

I've never seen a coach juggle this many "issue" afflicted players.

Self likes characters.

Well he had a royal flush of them this season.

At times Self seemed like pulling threads on a tapestry that was woven in way too complicated of a way.

When he adjusted one thread it was never clear whether there would be a net improvement, or simply another snag created elsewhere.

My guess is that Self, like most great coaches, likes to shorten his bench and play with 7-8 guys is because the permutations and combinations of interpersonal and sub group dynamics just get too big to orchestrate reliably.

Self may have reached his limit with how much he could juggle this season.

But all of this gets away from your core issue: this weird team performed about as anomalously bad in the tournament loss as last seasons simpler, if also problematic team did.

Focus and fatigue and personality types of the leaders seem at the heart of it.

I always feel that a leader needs to be a leader two years before he gets the hang of it. The first year he proves to himself he can do it, but fall short of the goal. The second year he goes out and achieves the goal. Marcus had to prove to himself and the team that he could lead this team. He did, but he just did not have enough experience at leadership in the NCAA tournament games to pull his team together under siege from a smart opposing coach with a cunning game plan.

Next year should be Marcus' year to lead us to the promised land, but he will probably jump and so not do it.

To bad.

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justiceseeker2011 3 years, 5 months ago

Now you're contradicting yourself. Either he had all this on his mind or he didnt., How were we able to beat other teams who played similarly ei. Richmond Spider, or even Boston. if that be the case. How can you state his coaching tactics flawed (of which I agree with by the way) and plainly he ws outcoached. And also defend his presumed state of mind during the game? Either you're ready for the biggest show in college basketball or you're not. No excuses, they stink like armpits. Good coach yes, tragedies, suspensions yes, but excuses no. Your comments were very enlightening but there seems a bit of contradiction. If he was still affected by the ordeals that happened earlier this season, then that would be the reason for his poor coaching performance and if thats the case save the long list of what he should have done as a coach to get the victory. His mental state wasnt there.. or it was which is it. But Self was outcoached. And if its going to help the team as far as coaching goes the more astute the coaches are the better.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Part 7

But this year, slowing the game at ten minutes, shortening up the defense to end the chasing sooner, finding a fix for the press, and posting up Rodriguez all game long until he fouled out, would have won this game for certain. Even doing only two of them would probably have brought victory.

Every coach has to cost his team a big victory a few times in his career. Wooden, Dean and Roy certainly did. Self has nothing to be ashamed of. He has everything to be proud of. Everyone strikes out occasionally, when they got to the plate. As Michael Jordan always says, I had to miss several thousand shots to make the ones I made. Self has to miss some opportunities to make some. He needs to forget all of that nonsense that was briefly in his head about needing to cash in when you have the chances. He is so exceptional a coach that he will make many more chances even if he has a couple tough rebuilding seasons a head. And he needs to remember that he has not blown one opportunity in the Finals. :-) Most of the great coaches have blown a couple of those. Lighten up Coach Self. This was one game in one season. It is just a chance to get better and be even more ready for the next opportunity.

Folks that want to brand you permanently this way or that are always behind the curve. In life, everything is live and dynamic and evolving. Labels are necessarily oversimplifications. Branding is all static and rear viewing. You are growing tremendously as a coach every season, Coach Self. This will only stop you if you let it. You won't let it.

The persons that talk about patterns of failure, that ignore rings in the midst of "patterns of failure," are merely talking about chances to get better in a sport in which all but one team ends in a pattern of failure every season.

Rock Chalk! and Next!

Rock Chalk to the greatest coach in college basketball today.

Don't we all?

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Naw, losing was not bad at all for me this time, once I saw how many easy ways there were to win. We do not have to feel a victim of random chance, or of unfixable problems.

Leaping this hurdle will be nothing compared to rising to this point.

Rock Chalk!

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TimmytheJayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

First trip for me to KUSports since the loss. Tough times, but that is the "fun" of a single elimination tourney. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Amazing season, always tough to lose... but only one team wins.

I am happy to see some good news. Although I think Marcus is 1st Team, it is recognition of his amazing play this season.

I hope you come back, but will always enjoy your play... College or NBA!

Rock Chalk!

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Does anyone really doubt that Tyshawn and especially EJ could have posted Rodriguez up endlessly and guarantied us points and fouling Rodriguez out?

This is what has been stuck in my mind since the ten minute mark of the first half?

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zsn 3 years, 5 months ago

jaybate: I think that the "Art of Fouling Out Your Opponent's Best Player" has been dead-and-buried for about 10 years (by my count). You just don't see moves like what Larry did to Tisdale anymore - put a freshman (Mark Pellock) who just cannot care less and starts hacking away, frustrating the All-American. Even the most jaded ref has to call fouls at 2:1 ratio favoring the AA. Throw in a second freshman/sophomore (Piper) you suddenly have 10 fouls to give against his five.

It almost seems like coaches have a gentlemen's agreement and don't go for the jugular when any player gets 2 or 3 fouls. When Rodriguez got his 3rd, midway through the 2nd half, why did Taylor not continue to drive on him and make him a liability? Or, Veal for that matter........This is especially puzzling in light of the proliferation of Cheapshotting and its XTReme cousin.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Interesting point.

I suppose it maybe an unwritten rule with a shared origin with the unwritten rule that the refs will swallow their whistles for extended periods in the middle of each half in order to keep the game in the broadcast window. Everyone tacitly agrees to the whistle swallowing the same way they tacitly agree not to actively try to foul the team's stars out, so the game will still feature the stars.

How very NBA of college basketball, don't you think?

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Glen Darge 3 years, 5 months ago

Well here we are waiting another year for our team to dissappoint us again by loosing to a girls team. Another unknown never heard of untill now.

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