fabio (anonymous) says...

6 schools in the Top 25! Alright

October 14, 2007 at 12:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

killabees (anonymous) says...

15 in the Coaches too.

Let's see what the BCS has to say.

October 14, 2007 at 1:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

frompekka2sasha (anonymous) says...

That is so funny to read "let's see what the BCS has to say" until I realize that we actually do have a great football team. Yeah!

October 14, 2007 at 1:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

speedy (anonymous) says...

the stupity of the bcs will never -NEVER- allow kansas ,so. fl. or kentucky to play for a natl. championship. its biased and only makes up rules so the big 4 or 5 schools get to be champ.
if ku went undefited a school such as usc would get there even with 2 losses. strenght of schedule
is their excuse. just ask boise st. what is it going to take to get a playoff system???? not a bcs conference? what a way to keep the championship to a small group. afterall 15 million for a bowl game is not to be given to appl. state is it?
how long are the college pres. going to continue?
they out number the dozen or so schools that refuse to allow a playoff system.
in bb conzaga could never be natl. champs could they??? stupity prevails!

October 14, 2007 at 1:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

killabees (anonymous) says...

I hold out hope that we'll be in the BCS top 15. We're fifteen in the coaches (haven't seen the new Harris yet) and and the computer rankings that I've seen have KU even higher. It's not a stretch to think KU could be in the BCS top 15 when rankings come out this week.

October 14, 2007 at 1:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

Actually, KU could get to the BCS title game if they run the table because they would be Big XII champions and have wins against Colorado, Missouri, K-State, A&M, and probably Oklahoma. That's a healthy slate to go unbeaten against. Obviously, one loss KU will not be looked upon nearly as favorably as one loss OU or one loss USC or LSU, but they have a chance if they win out.

That said, we had better focus on Colorado, because they have a dangerous football team.

October 14, 2007 at 1:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

kylecisnum1 (anonymous) says...

lou holtz last night on gameday final, "why can't kansas be #1" i applaud you lou!!!

October 14, 2007 at 1:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

McGuzzo23 (anonymous) says...

I hope this happens but KU would play in the National Championship If they win every game you can't keep them out there is no way. Now will that happen well we got a very very long way to go but I like it so far.

October 14, 2007 at 2:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

KUglow (anonymous) says...

Remember the year KSU had a chance to play for the Natl championship they were undeafted heading into the Big 12 title game and lost. They would have made the BCS title game despite a "cupcake" schedule. I don't see KU going undefeated. BUT, if we beat Colorado we simply need to beat ISU and Neb at home to go to Arrowhead to play MU with a trip to the Big 12 title game on the line. Do the math.

October 14, 2007 at 2:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Cornfed (anonymous) says...

Speedy-some schools may get pushed out of the BCS conferance but Kansas in the Big 12 isn't one of them sorry.

As for Gonzaga can't be National Champs can they? Umm prolly not they never do anything in the tourney-2 EE in what 10 years(and I think everything else was a second round loss?)? And we hear they are a "Cinderella"........please George Mason made the FF.

October 14, 2007 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jhawkdan42 (anonymous) says...

speedy, I agree with the content of your post,but your spelling is atrosias

October 14, 2007 at 2:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JBurtin (anonymous) says...

The BCS standings are made up of a combination of the Coaches Poll, Media Poll, and the Sagarin Elo.

The Sagarin-elo has us at #13.

There is no conspiracy to keep KU out of the BCS if they keep winning. What I have been frustrated with are the media and coaches polls continuously starting us way lower in the polls than we finished the year before.

We finish 50th, they assume next year's team will be eightieth, we finish 40th, they assume next years team will be seventieth. It gives us a hell of a long climb to get into the polls every year. I realize that we played a cupcake non-con schedule this year, but many other teams would have been ranked before week five after putting in the performance that this team did simply because they started in a realistic spot.

I guess if this program wants respect, they'll just have to tattoo the name Kansas on each of our opponents foreheads for the rest of the year.

October 14, 2007 at 2:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JBurtin (anonymous) says...

Oops, I was looking at sagarin-elo from last week.

This week we're #6

That will boost us a ton in the BCS rankings!

BTW, the sagarin predictor is the most accurate game predictor known to man, it has us at #4.

October 14, 2007 at 2:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

A very, very tough foe in CU on Sat. If we win that one, look out. As I've said before, A & M is the luckiest team in America and we should beat them. OSU will also be tough. NU and ISU stink. MU, of course, is a huge road block to 12-0 but the Tigers are beatable, as they rely almost totally on Daniels. Let's keep sawing wood, one game at a time but 12-0 is doable.

My family and I will be in Boulder.

Go Hawks.

October 14, 2007 at 3:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seattlehawk_78 (anonymous) says...

I disagree speedy. Even though the system in college is inherently flawed, the BCS is actually an improvement. If KU were to run the table, I think they could play in the title game. What could hurt them most is strength of schedule but the way teams are getting knocked off this year I'll be surprised if the title game does not have two teams with two or more combined losses. What kept Boise State out last year was the conference they played in.

I think it is quite premature to be talking about it at this time of the season. The Big 12 is very balanced and I don't expect an undefeated team to emerge at seasons end. We have consecutive road games in front of us. I'll be happy if we can come away with one win in the next two weeks.

October 14, 2007 at 3:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jaybirdy68 (anonymous) says...

I just watched FOX Sports and KU is #13 in the bcs. go jayhawks.

October 14, 2007 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says...

holy crap! This really is a crazy football season!

October 14, 2007 at 3:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

McGuzzo23 (anonymous) says...

I bought 9 Tickets for me and my family last monday for the game in Boulder. I hope we dont send any tickets back for that game. I'm looking for a lot of Blue at that Game.

October 14, 2007 at 3:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

killabees (anonymous) says...

Here's a link.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?pol...

Go KU.

October 14, 2007 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

didjabuti (anonymous) says...

Ok, I must have missed something. The article is about how KU is 13th the the BCS standings. Why do people keep talking about where KU will be in the BCS? Somebody help me, I think I've lost it.

October 14, 2007 at 4:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

beakemhawks (anonymous) says...

Speedy,
That was an impressive rant. You are wrong on many levels, spelling inkluded. Look at who is #2 in the BCS right now...South Florida. Before this season they had never been ranked, and unless they lose, there is a very real chane of them playing for the national championship. KU won't get "squeezed" out. We are already ahead of Florida and USC, two powerhouses. And Gonzaga basketball??? You must have been wanting to say that for a while.

October 14, 2007 at 4:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

killabees (anonymous) says...

didjabuti,

This story was originally about KU's rank in the AP poll, so some of us were musing about the BCS. Now the story's been changed to the BCS report, but the comments from the AP report were carried over.

October 14, 2007 at 5:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jacqueshock (anonymous) says...

I believe this is the first time that KU has had a BCS ranking.

October 14, 2007 at 5:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sevenyearhawk (anonymous) says...

jacques, I believe you are correct!

***

Sweet Lou Holtz, I think someone slipped some Crimson Kool-Aid into his Metamucil!

October 14, 2007 at 5:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

halvhawk (anonymous) says...

i wonder, and if anyone knows please let us know...but when was the last time kansas was the last undefeated team in their conferece (it definitely goes back to the big 8 days)? and when were they ranked ahead of florida, texas, and nebraska? it is truly exciting..rock chalk!!

October 14, 2007 at 6:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

hawkandtigerfan (anonymous) says...

we sound just as ignorant as kstate fans used to. to talk about a national championship and running the table is absurd. I've said many times it is possible, but its unlikely, and we know it. many of us thought before the season started that an 8-4 season would be incredible. i think we're realistically staring at a 9-3 finish (tough game against mizzou, oklahoma state, and take your pick of a possible loss against CU or A&M since they're away games). I hope if we end 9-3 we remember how much of an amazing improvement this was this year.

as for the bcs having as many problems as speedy says, his rant is ridiculous. of course strength of schedule has to be factored in. unless your i.q. is below 67, you know that ku has played a pretty soft schedule up until now. strength of schedule HAS to be figured in because otherwise a team like navy could choose to play all softees, win them all, and have a shot at a national championship even though they still never proved themselves against a good team.

stop talking about national championships. keep your mouth shut so ku fans do not look stupid and just secretly hope it happens. otherwise, though, just rejoice that we've been perfect so far and are guaranteed a bowl game, and most likely a great bowl game, at that.

October 14, 2007 at 6:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

speedy (anonymous) says...

it is all my cumputers fault i cant spell.

October 14, 2007 at 6:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

actorman (anonymous) says...

"... if we beat Colorado we simply need to beat ISU and Neb at home to go to Arrowhead to play MU with a trip to the Big 12 title game on the line."

Much as I love your optimism, you're overlooking a couple of minor details, namely aTm and OSU on the road. I'd say they will be MUCH tougher games than ISU and NU at home.

October 14, 2007 at 6:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

actorman (anonymous) says...

And by the way, speedy, perhaps a remedial English course may be in order.

October 14, 2007 at 6:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

Hawk and tiger...gosh, I wish we were all as brilliant as you. Please allow us this moment without protest. After all, we haven't had too many seasons like this. And remember, this team is special and us optimists will be optimists even if it does seem stupid to killjoys like you.

October 14, 2007 at 7 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

hawkandtigerfan (anonymous) says...

optimism is great but i remember how a few kstate extreme optimists made all kstate fans look ignorant and annoying. i hope we're undefeated too, but lets not start calling for a national championship. i'll hold that optimism until we beat CU on the road and beat Mizzou. Mizzou is going to be the first really big test. If we wax them, I know we're for real.

October 14, 2007 at 7:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

seattlehawk_78 (anonymous) says...

7year, I was quite surprised over Lou's comments yesterday. Actually, shocked might be a more adequate description. I never expect anyone from ESPN to say anything complimentary about KU football. He could have said number 5 and made his point, but 2, that's making a statement.

October 14, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

oldalum (anonymous) says...

jayhawkdan: I hope you were kidding when you scolded speedy about his spelling by calling it "atrosias" instead of atrocious.

October 14, 2007 at 8 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

KUglow (anonymous) says...

I'm not being optimistic I'm being a realist. IF we can beat CU on Saturday, and that's a big if but if we do that and take care of business at home - regardless of what we do on the road at A&M and OSU - we will enter the MU game at 5-2. Even if MU goes in at 6-1, a win gives us the North. Plus, by beating KSU and CU we own the tiebreakers. National championship talk I believe is crazy but talking about a Big 12 North title is not. We have just as much reason to be talking about it as MU does - if not more at this point.

October 14, 2007 at 8:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

cobweb (anonymous) says...

Mangino learned how to schedule at K State.

October 14, 2007 at 8:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

My point was not that KU will win the national title. I think there is still work to be done to get to that point. My point is that if KU keeps beating the people that are put in front of them (and after yesterdays events, I think KU will be favored in every game from here on until the conference title game except maybe the Missouri game) they will have to be looked at as a potential national title game participant.

That said, the focus right now is on Colorado. Colorado has already beaten OU, so they are at least good enough to give us problems, and if we aren't ready, they will beat us at their place. We have to battle this weekend.

October 14, 2007 at 9 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

typobox43 (anonymous) says...

KUGlow: KSU would need another loss for that to be true, as well. They've only got one conference loss right now.

October 14, 2007 at 9:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

killabees (anonymous) says...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/noteboo...

Here's the Holtz quote, plus a little write up on KU.

October 14, 2007 at 9:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

filmhawk (anonymous) says...

you know what - who the heck cares about being pragmatic, realistic, or logical at a time like this????

the fact is that the fighting manginos are winning the games they are supposed to (pre-conference and baylor) and winning when they shouldn't (k-state) - and - they're doing it with style!

if you're a die hard football fan then you know that this is one of the most illogical and unrealistic seasons on record. ones and twos going down every week - south florida in the top 5 - dogs and cats living together.

rock chalk jayhawk

double national championships in 07 - 08

October 14, 2007 at 9:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

Bravo.

Big dreams lead to big successes. Can do thinking leads to done deeds. Big expectations are a preview championships. Attitude. Attitude. Attitude.

October 14, 2007 at 9:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

basquiat (anonymous) says...

"is one of college football's most successful coaches and may be the premier program builder in the history of the sport"
"The man who has taken four different programs to top 20 finishes, won a national championship and National coach of the year honors, and guided teams to 22 postseason bowl games"

This information refers to Lou Holtz.
Why do people think he is crazy when he sees something in the Hawks? I don't know all the X' and O's and I can't compare or evaluate talent all that well, but I will listen to a man like this when he says "#2, why not?"
I hate how the other guys at ESPN treat him like a silly old man who hasn't been on the top of the mountain many times and who knows the game a hell of a lot better than they do. Is he right? I don't know, but come on, give him a bit more respect and realize that maybe he can see something in a team that others at his network can't.

October 14, 2007 at 10:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

newtonrailer (anonymous) says...

KU will lose to A&M and i hate to say it but to mizzou as well... they shouldnt of moved the game to Arrowhead, even though it is sold out already! There wont be 50,000 ku fans to 1,000 mizzou fans then what it would be at KU... It will be half and half maybe more mizzou fans... Still they will be one of the top 4 teams in the BIG 12... thats still a significant change considering they could barely be bowl-eligible before this year... rock chalk jayhawk!!

October 15, 2007 at 12:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JBurtin (anonymous) says...

I don't konw why you would automatically pick us to lose against A&M. Sure they have a loud stadium, but so does K-State. And as I've said before, our new offense doesn't rely on the team being able to hear, if you want to change the play all of the players look over at the sideline with the exception of the linemen. Reesing only has to yell at them to give them the new play call. With A&M's defense looking as bad as they have this year (particularly against the pass) I see no reason why KU shouldn't expect a win at College Station.

I also wouldn't count us out for having a pretty solid majority in Arrowhead. Remember that all of the KU season ticket holders got tickets to the game automatically. I think we'll probably split the remainder of the tickets fifty-fifty, giving us a solid majority.

MU's defense is also suspect and we tend to play well against them on most years. In addition, Oklahoma plays a very similar style to us both offensively and defensively, and they just showed where the chinks in the armor lie for a team like Kansas to beat MU. Add that to a defensive backfield that looks better every game and I certainly wouldn't pencil this in as an automatic loss.

I don't know that we'll win them all, but there's no reason to count us out of any game this year.

October 15, 2007 at 1:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

First we have to win one game at a time, have fun, get psyched every play, plan our attack, and respect our opponent each and every week. If we can do that, and get some good KU crowd support on the road (Boulder, A&M, Arrowhead, etc), then KU could run the table. If, and the emphasis is on "if", KU does this, they would hands down be in the BCS championship game, Jan. 7th. No doubt about it. With the quality wins we would have by that time (including over OU at a neutral site), and by the sheer numbers (for instance, in conjunction with a KU win in Boulder, five teams losing next week in the top 13 would mean we move up 5 spots and probably more), and with the publicity beginning to swell (including Lou Holtz thank goodness), it would be inevitable in five weeks. Inevitable. This year, more than ever, the computers can not hide from a team that is drilling good quality competition and has not lost. LSU was in the title game a few years back and was 12th at this point in the season in BCS standings. And that was a "normal" year. This year is not, all kinds of "top tier" teams are losing. And we are 13th in the BCS. Facts are facts -- the system IS actually set up for a Big 12 team like us to make it. Thank goodness we're in the Big 12 -- then, if we did run the table, we would do what Boise St. did last year and not play for the national championship.... Still, we gotta keep doing what we're doing -- one game at a time, extreme focus and deep respect each opponent. Wherever we play at the end of the year is what we deserve -- we control our destiny. And regardless of us, the BCS system is a good one -- it will have the 2 best college teams a the end of this football season. With some more hard work from our coaches, players and fans, it could be us. go to boulder!!!!!

October 15, 2007 at 1:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sevenyearhawk (anonymous) says...

I'm still not sure about A&M, I'm holding judgment until after the trip to Boulder ...

DON'T cede the Missouri game to the Tiggers just because it is in Arrowhead, if KU can win in hostile environments like Manhattan and Boulder, that crowd should at least be 60-70% Jayhawks!

October 15, 2007 at 5:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

gcjhawk (anonymous) says...

Whats funny this is a KU board, Late Night was friday and we are talking about the BCS. This is awesome.

October 15, 2007 at 7:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

marvinhawk (anonymous) says...

Mangino doing a cartwheel, hmm.

October 15, 2007 at 7:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

didjabuti (anonymous) says...

killabees,
Thanks, when I got on this morning and saw the story had changed but the comments remained the same I figured that's what was happened.

October 15, 2007 at 7:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

I have been saying for 3 weeks that A & M is the luckiest team in America. We will beat them. Agree with Burtin, the crowd noise will not bother us, and we'll shut them up pretty quickly. No question. CU will be tough out there. Keep dreaming big. The sky is the limit with this team. Until someone beats us, I am going to remain very optimistic. As I have said before and as Keegan acknowledges today, we are very balanced, and you better bring your A game if you want to beat a team that is good on both sides of the ball. And, you know what, with the possible exception of the CMU game, we still have not put together a "clean" win. I do like the fact that we are holding needless penalties way down.

October 15, 2007 at 8:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Brickwall1 (anonymous) says...

Typobox, if KU is 5-2 and Mizzou is 6-1 by the time they play, that means K-state already has been beaten by MU, and they have at least two losses.

October 15, 2007 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sevenyearhawk (anonymous) says...

FYI

for those of you living in the Kansas City area ...

Hy-Vee can order buffalo burgers, but better call soon!

I got mine already reserved!

October 15, 2007 at 10:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jdukhawk (anonymous) says...

We only have to gimmies the rest of the season! Iowa State is terrible as well as nebraska but you never know when they may turn things around up there. Highly doubtful but still a possibility. Lets take this one week at a time like coach m is and we'll be a lot better off!!

October 15, 2007 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

If you are a KU football player reading the headline of this story, don't let it fool you. As Coach Mangino is emphasizing, the thing to focus on is Colorado. Respect them. Win with a purpose. And shake their hands.

October 15, 2007 at 11:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jhawkdan42 (anonymous) says...

oldalum, of course I wuz kedding ! Hawks, one game at a time and lets enjoy the ride!

October 15, 2007 at 2:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

prairie_dog (anonymous) says...

Let's beat CU. You are right, 100.
Beat 'em so bad they throw batteries again.

October 15, 2007 at 6:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CaramelMacchMan (anonymous) says...

Remember Guys "When they say you are good, dont believe them. and when they say you are bad, dont believe them." :)

Good luck Hawks! No cupcakes! This is still a big 12 game.

October 15, 2007 at 9:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )