Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Prep guard Selden to visit KU for Late Night


Wayne Selden, a 6-foot-5, 225-pound senior combo guard from Tilton (N.H.) School, will attend the season-opening Late Night in the Phog as part of an official recruiting visit to Kansas University, reports.

Selden, the No. 23-rated player in the Class of 2013, has a list of KU, Florida, Missouri, UCLA, Syracuse and Ohio State.

Eric Bossi, national basketball recruiting analyst for, recently named Selden one of the top 10 most physical players in the class. Only Julius Randle, Andrew Harrison, Aaron Harrison and Zena Edosomwan were rated ahead of Selden, who is originally from Roxbury, Mass.

“Checking in at nearly 230 pounds, Selden is built more like your typical tight end than a high school shooting guard,” Bossi told “An explosive athlete, Selden’s ability to strong arm opponents is a big advantage.”

Other seniors expected to attend the Oct. 12 Late Night in the Phog: No. 5-rated Aaron Gordon, 6-8 forward, Archibishop Mitty High, San Jose, Calif.; No. 29 Tyler Roberson, 6-8 forward, Roselle (N.J.) Catholic; and No. 43 Karviar Shepherd, 6-10 center, Dallas Prime Prep Academy.

Mason update: No. 131-ranked Frank Mason, a 5-11, 160-pound senior point guard from Massanutten Military Academy in Woodstock, Va., will visit KU this weekend, reports. Mason signed with Towson last November, but elected to attend prep school for academic reasons. He now has KU, South Carolina, Tennessee, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech and others on his list. Mason averaged 27 points a game last season at Petersburg (Va.) High. He was region player of the year for the two-time state runner-up team.


Brad Avery 10 years, 2 months ago

Wow. He actually has skills to go along with his athleticism. If Selden comes to KU, he won't be here more than one season. Remindful of a young Elgin Baylor back in the day. He doesn't look like a football player to me, more like an NBA player.

mojayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

One word. WOW! The video does the talking. He would fit in great in Coach Self's physical style of play. A Jayhawk stud in the making. Come on down, Wayne. We love the name Wayne in Allen Field House, as in Wayne Simien!

jhox 10 years, 2 months ago

Let me be the third to respond with a "wow". That is a man. Definitely skilled enough to play the point.

Dan Harris 10 years, 2 months ago

OMG! I'm surprised Selden isn't rated in the top 10 after watching that clip. We need to see Mr Selden representing the Jayhawks!

RockChalk26 10 years, 2 months ago

That was awesome.......excuse me, I need to change my jockeys

Alex Peekeaton 10 years, 2 months ago

Don't think Calipari is drooling at KU's recruits...Coach Cal is in the process of landing the greatest recruiting class ever - if Harrison twins sign next month (October 29) and Wiggins reclassifies which is very likely, the table will be set. Randle already said he would love to play with the Harrison twins. Signing 4 of the top 5 recruits plus possibly adding #8 Young who has made it known he wants to go to UK.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Selden is not just a difference maker, but a potential next evolution in XTReme Muscle PGs.

First there was Quin Buckner for Knight at Indiana.

Then there was Mateen the Meat Cleaver Cleeves for Ratso Izzo at MSU.

Then there was Sherron Collins for Self at KU.

Now there is Wayne Selden.

If Self signs him and Selden at 6-5 and 225 can do it at D1 speeds, XTReme Muscle PG may reach a new zenith.

Pity the Demetrious Jackson's of the world.

Ben Simonett 10 years, 2 months ago

I think you missed a couple "XTReme Muscle" PGs in your evolution list.

Tim Hardaway comes to mind immediately

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Imagine Frank Mason and Wayne Selden taking turns bringing the ball upcourt!

Blinding speed.

Overwhelming muscle.


Playing it anyway they want and beating them at it.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Frank Mason?

5-11 and 160?

3 stars?

Why do Self, Frank Martin, Cuonzo Martin and Travis Ford want this guy?


Ben Simonett 10 years, 2 months ago


The only reason for the staff to pursue another PG in this class is to upgrade from Tharpe.

Mason is definitely not an upgrade

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

ralster and bennybob,

I'm not sure if you realize this, but we need Mason to replace Milton Doyle. :-)

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago

Appreciated jb's positive spin. I ain't bitin', though.

I can tell you quite definitively (in this world of speculation) why Self is trying to get Frank Mason ... we haven't landed our top 5 PG targets. That is the only reason why.

As for Cuonzo Martin, Frank Martin and Travis Ford, the #133 player should be right in their line of sight. More power to them.

I posted back a few months ago when Mason's name surfaced that we should be concerned .. that would mean we whiffed on the PGs. The back up plan, to the back up plan, to the ... you get the idea. That it is not the situation we want to be in. The scramble is now on for the additional PG.

If we add Mason to our current commits for 2013, our class rating will drop by the sheer weight of a non-top 100 player -- subtraction by addition. This is a bit different than Zach Peters, from whom Self got an early commit. This smells more like Jamari Traylor, Braedon Anderson, Merv Lindsay, Milton Doyle. It's that kind of move. Just earlier. Because the doors have closed earlier than with those I just mentioned.

It clearly underscores the point on ballhandling, and that Self really, really believes we need another ballhandler.

But here's where adding Mason looks different .. 1) we get Selden (I spelled his name right this time) and Shepherd, to go with Greene and Frankamp. Then Mason is #5. No worries there, right? Can we all accept that scenario? That would likely be the #1 or #2 class. Deal. 2) Or if we miss on Selden but get Roberson and Shepherd, or a combo of top 50 big guys in the other two open spots, adding Mason as #5 is not that bad. I'll take 4 top 50s any day of the week.

Mason's place in this class is the key (if he comes here). Mason as the #3 guy in this class stinks. Pure and simple. I would love to hear the contrary argument there, if there is one. But I hope we can all maintain a bit of sanity.

Mason as the #4 guy in the class is still significantly disappointing. It would mean there is someone ranked lower than Mason in this class, which is Milton Doyle, Merv Lindsay territory.

But as the #5 guy in the class, paired with 4 top 50s, though we would have liked Barber, or Jackson, etc., is completely cool. Mason "acceptability" is largely (and correctly) determined by who else we land.


jayhawks1009 10 years, 2 months ago

what about Roddy Peters Instead of Mason?

Ben Simonett 10 years, 2 months ago

Your two scenarios are correct. If mason ends up being the 5th scholarship, no problem.

What's concerning that 5th scholarship"flier" recruit is usually filled in the spring after your big targets are signed. that fact that the Staff is reaching out the this level of recruit this early is worrisome.

But in all honesty, after the trend we've seen the last couple of years. I'm not surprised by it.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago


Here's why this class is important .. I have said consistently here that this class can be a game changer. Setting us up for championship runs over the next number of years (paired with McLemore/White/Ellis). We need big hits here. Why? Count the scholarships. The opportunity for a big, highly ranked class won't be there for a while. We have no juniors. We have one sophomore (Tharpe). Even a few defections (McLemore to NBA and/or a big man transfer) don't leave the opportunity for the big class. If there's not significant defections, the talent we get now, paired with the 2012 class, is the talent core that we have for a few seasons.

The Selden visit is great news. It means we're in the game. If ever Self applied a full court press, it should be on Selden. Not "pressure" an all out "press."

All this assumes lightning does not strike, and that we don't add a Parker or Randle. That would of course change everything.

TraditionRich 10 years, 2 months ago

Adding Selden also makes this a more attractive scenario for Gordon, Randle, or Parker.

Love that Gordon is accompanying Selden on the visit.

dylans 10 years, 2 months ago

The #1 class will be Cal's again. Or whoever lands the Harrison twins, but I don't want a class of OADs. The character issues and egos aren't worth the extra couple of wins. Also what happens if Self lands another top 5 recruit that gets injured or is overrated? If a second top recruit doesn't pan out this soon to the Selby flame out it would look very bad. 4-5 top 50 recruits (frosh and soph) will make for a fine basketball team that will be a national title contender, hopefully without all the drama.

Ben Simonett 10 years, 2 months ago

Given the level of athlete in the front court he'll be playing with I don't forsee the necessity of alot of lob passes.

I'd take him in a second lob pass ability or no

ku1otaku 10 years, 2 months ago

Why do I have a feeling he is going to pick Syracuse?

Ben Simonett 10 years, 2 months ago

Because your capable of looking at recent recruiting trends and applying critical thinking skills and logic.

but be careful when you do that, alot of people get upset from such things on this board

Tony Bandle 10 years, 2 months ago

*Wayne "Sudden" Selden bringing the ball upcourt for KU with Conner "The Kid" Frankamp alongside would look like The Incredible Hulk and Spiderman coming to the rescue!!

*I still think that Karviar "Caviar" Shephard is a real key recruit for KU's long term excellence.

  • Two words on our chances for Gordon and Robertson......Perry Ellis!!

COJHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Honest question about Late Night...anyone have info on how many kids who've been to "Late Night" the last few years actually playing at KU? I LOVED "Late Night" when I was a student. Unsure about whether it helps land prospects. Anyone have the lowdown?

Priest Fontaine 10 years, 2 months ago

Updated (Semi-Realistic) 2013 Dream Class

1-Frankamp 2-Selden 3-Greene 4-Vonleh or Gordan 5-Karviar

mikehawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Just the kind of player Coach likes. Big. Physical.

Jonathan Andrews 10 years, 2 months ago

Selden is a good looking recruit. Reminds me a bit of Terrence Williams or Wesley Matthews, an aggressive, physical point forward. Doesn't seem the type we land (more of a Big East guy IMO), but coming to Late Night after we got in late recruiting him is a good sign. Might he also influence the recruitment of Vonleh???

Alohahawk 10 years, 2 months ago

As I said above, so glad Selden will be attending Late Night. However, Self has been recruiting Selden for a long time, so KU/Self didn't get involved late. That's one of the reasons I think he will be a Jayhawk. Some of the earlier reports, from back when he was classified in the 2014 class, in which I believe he was ranked in the top 6, have led me to that assumption.

Self has also recruited Noah Vonleh and Aaron Gordon for a long time (They both play PF so no way both would chose KU), but adding one of those along with Selden would be a stud class (with Frankamp and Greene), all of which are excellent shooters. Or, if KU gets Selden but loses out on NH or AG, but can add one of the other top bigs (Shepherd, Roberson, or Lawrence), KU would still be looking very good!

Steve Brown 10 years, 2 months ago

call me old, I went to first late night, used to be midnight....

not what it used to be, not saying it isn't good, but not the exact format to inspire recruits...

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