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Thomas Robinson's work on boards earn him top Keegan billing

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1. Thomas Robinson: Even for a guy who averages 17.6 rebounds per 40 minutes, his board work in this one was outrageous. Robinson played 17 minutes and made the Tigers who tried to keep him off the boards look so much younger in totaling 15 points and 13 rebounds. Not many teams in the country, if any, can bring such a rebounding force off the bench.

2. Marcus Morris: Drilled a number of mid-range jumpers and hit the offensive boards hard and spread his production throughout the game in getting 21 points and 10 rebounds to more than compensate for five turnovers.

3. Tyrel Reed: During a timeout at a crucial juncture, KU coach Bill Self drew up a play designed to get Reed an open shot in the corner. Reed told Self, “I’ll make it,” and backed up his words hitting the biggest shot of the game and adding another memorable performance against Mizzou to his long list of them. Three-pointer from left corner put Kansas up seven points with 1:05 left.

4. Elijah Johnson: Kansas turned it over 24 times and not one of those was charged to Johnson, the primary ballhandler for his 26 minutes of action. As usual, his statistics (four points, two assists), didn’t reflect his value.

5. Tyshawn Taylor: Played terrific defense and mixed in three assists and one turnover in 17 minutes before fouling out. All four points came from the free-throw line.

6. Markieff Morris: Contributed 10 points and eight rebounds, but also had five turnovers.

7. Brady Morningstar: Had an opposite day, totaling seven rebounds and four turnovers. Looked a little tentative at times against Missouri’s pressure.

8. Mario Little: Didn’t score and had one rebound and two fouls in eight minutes.

9. Travis Releford: Played just one minute.

10. Josh Selby: In the past six games he’s made 9 of 34 field goals and 2 of 15 three-point shots. Looked confused in this one, and had three turnovers, including a couple thrown to the Missouri bench instead of Reed, the intended receiver. Played season-low seven minutes, all in the first half.

The Keegan Ratings: Season Standings
1. Marcus Morris (256 points)
2. Markieff Morris (233 points)
3. Tyrel Reed (192 points)
4. Tyshawn Taylor (187 points)
5. Brady Morningstar (180 points)
6. Thomas Robinson (171 points)
7. Josh Selby (108 points)
8. Elijah Johnson (106 points)
9. Mario Little (103 points)
10. Travis Releford (100 points)
11. Jeff Withey (56 points)
12. Royce Woolridge (6 points)

The Keegan Ratings: Big 12 standings
1. Marcus Morris (139 points)
2. Markieff Morris (117 points)
3. Brady Morningstar (114 points)
4. Tyrel Reed (110 points)
5. Tyshawn Taylor (78 points)
6. Thomas Robinson (77 points)
7. Mario Little (69 points)
8. Josh Selby (61 points)
9. Elijah Johnson (56 points)
10. Travis Releford (29 points)
11. Jeff Withey (23 points)
12. Royce Woolridge (2 points)

Comments

ku98 10 years, 9 months ago

Selby is a big disappointment. He seems completely out of sync. He needs more time at the college level.

Robert Brock 10 years, 9 months ago

Selby needs to arrive at the college level; he still has one foot back in high school.

Jim Chastain 10 years, 9 months ago

Elijah J has emerged into a far better point guard than Taylor. It's not even close. Please play him more and cut down on Taylor's minutes. The scorers were generous in only giving him one turnover. I thought I counted about 4.

Kawfarmer 10 years, 9 months ago

T-Rob is a Manchild and saved our butts today! Morris's didn't contribute much and EJ deserves the starting spot without a doubt. Everyone else better turn up the wick or it will be a short post season tourney

slowplay 10 years, 9 months ago

OK. I guess Marcus' 21pts, 10 rebs didn't count. This was vs a top 25 team who hasn't lost at home this year. It was a statement win. KU is going to walk into the Elite Eight, after that who knows.

okjhok 10 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, the twins didn't contribute much...except almost half of the points. What game were you watching?

KU_Alumn_2000 10 years, 9 months ago

Selby just wasn't ready for big time basketball. Don't worry though...I think he will come into his own next year after a year of learning the college level. I think of T-Rob last vs. This year when analyzing Selby.

KGphoto 10 years, 9 months ago

+1

That's exactly how I see it. He'll reduce the turnovers and get his confidence back. Then lookout! I just hope he stays.

MrPilot 10 years, 9 months ago

I totally agree. Give him another year or two and he'll be amazing. Just like the brothers Morris.

Adam Evans 10 years, 9 months ago

I can't see him leaving. There is no guaranteed money for him right now. Virtually all draft boards have him going very late first but mostly second round right now. He'll be back at the lottery level next year. Hopefully next year we can see a starting 5 of (1) EJ, (2) TT, (3) Selby, (4) Mk Morris, (5) TRob (assuming Mc. Morris leaves as expected). IF he doesn't, have Selby at the 2, and run Mc. Morris at the 3 with Mk at 4 and TRob at 5. Sick lineup that would be. Fast, big, and beyond versatile.

KGphoto 10 years, 9 months ago

TRob was scary today!

Soooo confident. He was going crazy calling for the ball. He was playing aggressive at both ends. He was scoring while being fouled by 3 guys, then after a couple of missed free throws, he dialed it in. And after his 3rd foul, he waved off Coach Self and stayed in the game. Now THAT takes stones!

He personally got MU's bigs in foul trouble late, and he alone broke their will inside. Marcus was great again, but TRob tamed the kitties today.

Alohahawk 10 years, 9 months ago

Loved TRob's game today. Could almost read his mind. "Trust me, coach. This is my day." Amazed he has come back from surgery so fast. And doesn't seem to be holding back, not timid about re-injuring the knee. The only games we've lost were the two when TRob wasn't at full strength, physically or mentally. Stay healthy, Thomas.

And just heard on ESPN College Game Day that Digger Phelps is "going with Kansas". Actually brought up the '88 game while argueing with his fellow sportscasters, the Davis' (Hubbert and Seth), prior to Texas/Baylor game.

Who will the Hawks play first in the Big 12 tourney? Play-in winner of #12 and #9 place teams?

One at a time, Hawks. RCJHGKU.

John Randall 10 years, 9 months ago

The top seed is paired (2nd day) against the #8-#9 winner from first day. This year those are Neb. and OkieSt. The whole schedule is at

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&KEY=&ATCLID=204982272

John Randall 10 years, 9 months ago

By the way, big12sports.com will stream all the games for anyone away from TV access with an internet connection or WiFi source. The page above has a {Watch Game} tag to click for each game.

Chris Bruning 10 years, 9 months ago

Seeing Elijah play well and poised in front of what looked like a pretty good mizzou crowd is nice. Really love Elijah's development, last year that kid looked rattled in the small games. Those times are looking like they're done.

Dirk Medema 10 years, 9 months ago

Heck, a month ago he looked rattled. This is an amazing transformation!

Scott Smetana 10 years, 9 months ago

Welcome Back TRob... just what we needed.

Great Win. I guarantee the Mizzery fans are crying about the refs right now. I'm sure they feel we cheated our way to victory as well.

KU_FanSince75 10 years, 9 months ago

T-Rob was a beast and playing today in "beast-mode!" I think, Keegan, there should have been a tie for third---both EJ and Tyrel. I am not complaining about the rankings. Tyrel's trey at the end was large. It was a huge dagger that put Mizzou on ice.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 9 months ago

don't think selby is a top pick if he is rated the 8th best player on his own team. think we will look pretty good next year even if marcus leaves us. but god help everyone we play if he stays!

John Randall 10 years, 9 months ago

Right now, pro scouts are saying the twins are just that – alike as two peas in a pod and, if available, would go on consecutive picks middle of first round or even earlier. If one goes, they both do, IMO.

Dirk Medema 10 years, 9 months ago

Brady certainly enjoyed falling into the golden girls on the baseline one time. I think Tyrel came over to help him out, and got pushed away, or something like that :-) He definitely had a big ol grin on his face going back down the court.

ohmixmaster 10 years, 9 months ago

Hate to admit it, but they do have some pretty hot cheerleaders. They have to be from elsewhere. Not the usual fat as Michigan, toothless, meth head girls Missouri usually produces.

Hank Cross 10 years, 9 months ago

In defense of Selby, it has to be taken into account that he has never been given a real shot at his natural point guard position. He has never been given the opportunity to run a team in transition. This calls into question of for what purpose did Self recruit him. Self knew that he already had TT and EJ to compete for the point guard position and knew that he would be playing Tyrel and Brady heavily at 2-3.

khekhen 10 years, 9 months ago

what about in practice? you dont think the "selby at PG" experiment has been done in practice? it probably has been tried countless times and has failed; if it failed in practice, there's no way Self would ever try it in a game.

besides, KU runs point guard by committee. i'm disappointed that selby hasn't developed into a consistent perimeter scoring option a lot more than i am him not being able to play point guard. if he cant consistently give us 12 a game(whichever way he chooses), he is not to be trusted with running the whole offense, imo.

Kye Clark 10 years, 9 months ago

To a couple of your points:

  • All we heard during his suspension from guys in the media - Fran Frascilla, Ron Franklin, Bob Davis, Greg Gurley, Chris Piper...guys that were seeing him in practice on occasion - was that he was a do-everything point guard and a special type of player. Upon coming off suspension Self made the decision to play Selby off the ball because he didn't want his first game action to carry the weight of having to run the offense. Agree or disagree with that decision, in subsequent games he just decided to stick with Taylor until his suspension. Self was going to try the "Selby at PG experiment" in the first game of TT's suspension, but Selby forgot his orthotic, so he had clearly shown Self more in practice than EJ had. So to say there's no way Self would ever try it in a game is inaccurate. He was prepared to do just that, very late in the year. Unfortunately for Selby he was not prepared and missed his chance.

Secondly, you're right. KU does run point guard by committee...this year. The last 2 years it was Sherron for 30+ minutes/game.

And to your last point - only the Twins average more than 12 ppg. So why is that your criteria for Selby to run the point? If scoring 12 ppg is the criteria for being trusted to run the whole offense then none of our perimeter players meet said criteria.

khekhen 10 years, 9 months ago

simply scoring is easier to do than having the responsibility of running the show, all i'm saying. selby was brought in off the ball, with more experienced players doing the lions share of ball handling/passing duties. his task was to do what he does naturally...put the ball in the bucket. he couldnt do that consistently and now hes been displaced to the back of a 9 man rotation. giving him the keys to the ferrari, when he couldnt drive the minivan, at this point would be ludicrous.

i wouldnt put too much weight on what any media guys say(even if they were good players), there's a reason theyre working for the tv network instead of coaching at this point in their careers.

Kye Clark 10 years, 9 months ago

Well again...it was only a small handful of games ago that Self was ready to hand him the keys. What he naturally does is play on the ball, and playing off the ball has clearly affected one of the by-products of that which is scoring. Right now he appears to be having confidence/frustration issues that I suspect are largely due to him playing out of position and thus affecting his performance. Self may like to lump as many players as he can into the "combo guard" label, but the fact of the matter is that not everyone is a combo guard. Many players have skill sets that lend themselves to one guard spot or the other.

My point was that it probably hasn't failed countless times in practice. That given the guys in the media praise of Selby (whose job it is to analyze what they see to some extent), coupled with Self being willing to give him the opportunity in the OSU game (which is what I put more stock in), it is logical to assume he hasn't failed countless times in practice.

And lastly, his injury has probably played a big part in his performance and playing time. He was coming on pretty strong prior to missing a few games - scoring your requisite 12 ppg in each of the 3 games prior. He is still 3rd on the team in ppg in games he's played in. That is the most concerning aspect of this year's team. That if we run into an opponent who can shut down the Twins (and we've seen it twice already this year, along with a couple more times for a half or more) we have no one on the perimeter to pick up the slack. Everyone else is successful as a compliment to the Twins. Because of the Twins. Selby could have been that guy, to carry the offense for stretches. We are past that point now, and will only go as far as the Twins carry us.

jayhawktalk 10 years, 9 months ago

Can't put it on anyone but Josh. You take the opportunities you are given and capitalize. If not...

He's in the same spot H. Barnes was in early this season with UNC. The glaring difference being that Josh had to sit out the early "cupcake" games, and then had an injury further hamper development. Sadly, we are long past the time in the season for development. Josh seems to be mentally strong, and I'm sure he gets this. Hope he keeps his head up.

Kye Clark 10 years, 9 months ago

I agree. And then it appeared in the regular season finale he was thrown to the wolves against an aggressive, trapping & pressuring Missouri defense for a couple of possessions trying to bring the ball up court, he turned it over, and Self used that as a reason to park him on the bench for the remainder of the game. Granted he is not shooting the ball well and wasn't aggressive driving the ball when he got it, and with the chance to win the conference outright and earn the #1 seed in the conference tournament (to say nothing of just having the chance to beat Missouri) I can't blame Self for not playing him more in this game.

To answer your question about why Self recruited him, first of all I would say Self wasn't expecting Selby to miss the first 9 games. Without that initial suspension, we could be having a whole different conversation regarding his progress and role on this team. Secondly, while Self knew he had EJ, he clearly wasn't sold on him. In fact, it was only because of Taylor's suspension and Selby forgetting his orthotic that EJ was even given the opportunity. He knew the front court would be the strength of this team, but he had a largely unproven cast of perimeter players. Releford and Little were coming off redshirt years and if they didn't pan out the way Self liked he could play Brady at the 3/play 3 guard line-ups. He had two point guards in EJ and TT that were 1 & 2 years removed from playing the position, and Tyshawn had regressed during his sophomore campaign. Brady had slumped the second half of last season. Tyrel had never been a starter before this season. And Self had success in transitioning Mario Chalmers from the original position he had envisioned for him - point guard - to a 2 guard, and probably figured he could slide Selby in at one or the other. And third, if you have a chance to get a kid as talented as Selby you take it regardless of how deep you think you might be at any one position. I'm sure Self thought Selby would be able to beat out somebody for minutes at this point. The suspension, injury, and a deep team have been a recipe for somewhat of a disaster for Selby (from a personal performance standpoint). I hope that he maintains a positive attitude, continues to work to get better, and is ready to perform when called upon.

Dirk Medema 10 years, 9 months ago

Well said. Josh is obviously frustrated at times, but mostly at himself for not performing the way that he knows he is capable of performing. I look for him to be hugely dedicated over the summer, and have a breakout soph year splitting time evenly in the 3 headed 1&2.

Kye Clark 10 years, 9 months ago

I hope you're right. My fear is that if he can make the jump to the NBA based on potential he'll take it. Especially with both Tyshawn and EJ returning, Nadiir Tharpe coming in, and the possibility of not getting to play the point much again next year.

Ron Franklin 10 years, 9 months ago

24 turnovers makes me want to puke,but they did what they had to in the end. Good game to have right before tourney time.

Dirk Medema 10 years, 9 months ago

Brady deserves a bit more love for the D he played on Denmon. That is the one guy for the tiggers capable of having a Pullen game, and he got about half his average. That was primarily Brady.

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