Thomas Robinson hustles his way to top spot


1. Thomas Robinson: Committed three turnovers and made poor decisions offensively, but hustled his way to 19 points, 17 rebounds and four blocked shots. Also made 11 of 13 from the line, but just 4 of 13 from the field.

2. Conner Teahan: Sent team on a big first-half run with his outside shooting. Made 3 of 5 three-pointers and had nine points and four rebounds in 17 minutes.

3. Travis Releford: Had 11 points, six boards, four assists and two blocked shots.

4. Jeff Withey: Made all five field goal attempts and had a pair of blocked shots.

5. Justin Wesley: Hustled for seven rebounds and three blocked shots in 18 minutes. Easy buckets aren’t always so easy though.

6. Kevin Young: Scrapped his way to five points and five boards in seven minutes.

7. Tyshawn Taylor: Scored 18 points, but didn’t do a good job of taming a wild bunch and had just one assist and four turnovers.

8. Naadir Tharpe: Scoreless in 10 minutes, but at least didn’t have any turnovers.

9. Merv Lindsay: Picked up a steal in the final minute.

10. Elijah Johnson: Scoreless in 27 minutes with seven turnovers.

The Keegan Ratings: Season Standings
1. Thomas Robinson (56 points)
2. Tyshawn Taylor (47 points)
3. Elijah Johnson (40 points)
T4. Jeff Withey (39 points)
T4. Travis Releford (39 points)
T6. Justin Wesley (29 points)
T6. Conner Teahan (29 points)
8. Kevin Young (23 points)
9. Naadir Tharpe (19 points)
10. Merv Lindsay (3 points)


Daniel Cuellar 8 years, 4 months ago

I'm not sure how Teahan finished above fourth. The kid played awful defense as usual, disappeared offensively in the second half as usual, and can't get to the easiest rebounds. Seriously, has he had ANY points in second halves this season?!

kusayzone 8 years, 4 months ago

With a shot as smooth as silk, Teahan demands that the other team notice him. And when that happens, the middle of the lane becomes a bigger open are for TRob. If you had ever coached a game, you would understand..It is not about a single player, but a team concept. Go somewhere else to complain about individuals who are on the team. Your jealousy factor is showing its ugly head@

Bob Thompson 8 years, 4 months ago

I watched a play when TT drove the basket. Teahan was in the corner waiting for the kick out with no one close to him..... did he get the ball, NO. Teahan's job is to knock down 3's. He could have knocked down a lot more if they would drive and dish out to him. Then we would see the middle really open up.

Jayhawk1958 8 years, 4 months ago

I'd rather have Teahan in the game then Johnson. Johnson looks completely lost out there and not agressive at all.

Daniel Cuellar 8 years, 4 months ago

Oh, I'm sorry kusayzone, I didn't know John Wooden was reading these posts. Teahan's a liability in every facet of the game other than 3-point shooting. A real coach would realize that only complete players should be eating up minutes at KU. Remember when he blew that fast break opportunity in the 2nd half? Remember his 1-6 performance against Georgetown? Remember him constantly getting beat to rebounds that practically landed in his lap? I'd hate to see him jump for a board (14 in 6 games). Then again, he's 6'6" and can't jump over a stack of phone books, so I guess I can understand that...except for the fact that 6'4" Pablo Bertone had 12 (yes, 2 shy of Teahan's season total) last night. And if he's had any second half points this year it was against Towson, so clearly his "smooth as silk" shot wears down when he gets tired, even though he's only averaging 19 minutes per game. Go back to coaching pee-wee ball.

actorman 8 years, 4 months ago

"A real coach would realize that only complete players should be eating up minutes at KU."

I disagreed with the earlier part of your post but didn't think you were nuts, and then you made this comment. I must not be reading it clearly, because you can't possibly be saying that the coach with the greatest winning percentage in KU history and a national title to his credit is not a real coach, can you??? Seriously???

Daniel Cuellar 8 years, 4 months ago

No, I was taking a shot at the guy saying "clearly you've never coached before..." but then again I don't think Self should be immune to scrutiny. I do think he keeps Young, Wesley, and Tharpe on a much shorter leash than the veterans, and I am also not a fan of Releford playing the 4 with Teahan at the 3 when he's not producing offensively. Would rather have Releford at the 3 and Young at the 4, since TR gives up a lot of size and Young can't play any worse on D than Teahan and he gets us extra possessions with rebounding and has an occasional putback. That situation should only occur in the 2nd half because Teahan has in fact been good on offense in the first half.

actorman 8 years, 4 months ago

Fair enough. I certainly agree that he shouldn't be immune to criticism, and I've done my share of questioning of his decisions over the years.

kusayzone 8 years, 4 months ago

Oh cellar dwellar, do you remember pee-wee ball? How many years has it been you? About your reply...Too many minutes for Teahan?? 19??? HCBS has scripted minutes for each player who starts and those off the bench as well. If he gets 19 minutes, it is because that is what the coach wants. Who are you to criticize Teahan for his minutes? you are an expert on the game plan and the role of each player. Say, do all 5 players rebound every play or do some have to retreat to play defense. In your analysis Teahan is not allowed to make mistakes? I wonder if your analysis of TT with his turnovers (not the apple or cherry variety), or even the slow start in the play of TReleford meets your ever microscopic analysis. Your comments I consider nothing more than troll bait, and for that this conversation is ended. You apparently have something personal against this KU player, and it is your problem because Teahan still has the confidence of HCBS and the bottom line is that is all that is important.

Alohahawk 8 years, 4 months ago

I think I'll just vote TRob as the automatic "Hawk to Rock" for each game the rest of the season. I should be correct at least 90% of the time. It's going to take a special performance by any other Jayhawk to surpass him each game.

And if KU's guard play doesn't improve (taking care of the ball), they're not going to challenge for the top award.

Robert Brock 8 years, 4 months ago

Amazingly bad game. I sat watching and shaking my head due to the countless mistakes that the Hawks were making on offense and defense. Self probably felt sick.

Ron Franklin 8 years, 4 months ago

What is going on with EJ. His body language is awful lately--he doesn't appear happy. Where's is that big cheeser?

keith horinek 8 years, 4 months ago

A very poor game at the least. I contribute the lackluster performance to the Hawaiian hangover. Saturday's game should be better. I see vast improvements in TRob, Jeff Withey, Releford and Teahan. TT and EJ seem to be slipping backwards some. That could prove to be our downfall if we don't get better guard play, we shall see. However, I would have put Withey ahead of Releford based on his defensive play. Releford didn't play as well in the second half, where Withey played with three fouls most of the game. I agree, Teahan needs to play as hard in the second half as he does in the first half, not sure what's going on there.

actorman 8 years, 4 months ago

I was actually encouraged by TT's play in this game and would rank him higher than seventh. I know he only had one assist, but he played much better than in the Duke game and didn't make a lot of stupid decisions.

I am concerned about the team's turnovers overall, though, and I'm especially worried about the way EJ is playing. Hopefully it's all just part of the process of adjusting to a new situation. The team also does seem to be generally playing to its level of competition. And I would guess that the "Hawaii Hangover" factor played a big part in this game.

It does seem like this is going to be quite a roller coaster of a season.

AsadZ 8 years, 4 months ago

No doubt T-Rob is a beast on glass especially on D. He is big and strong. His FT shooting has improved significantly. His energy level is incredible. All very good signs.

One area where I hope T-Rob gets better is his post play. He is still not comfortable here. His feet are not moving very well. Opposing teams are putting two/three players on him and he is having trouble keeping himself under control. He is getting frustrated leading to bad decisions.

Unless he improves this part of his game, it will very challenging for him to score in double figures consistently. I hope Danny is working with him in this area and showing him some tape as a teaching tool.

Jonathan Allison 8 years, 4 months ago

I have been really impressed with Justin Wesley's hustle so far this season. He's been a good surprise. I expect more out of Kevin Young though as the year goes by. I should have known that Wesley would be ahead of KY because of Wesley's redshirt year last year.

It's hard really to rank the number 2 through 5 players because it seems like each other them play well in spurts and played very poorly in spurts. Robinson was far and away the top Hawk though, even though he really struggled to get his shot off under the basket because he was getting mugged as soon as he touched the ball every time.

Daniel Cuellar 8 years, 4 months ago

Couldn't agree with you more. Once Wesley gets his fouls under control we'll be set. I think that our post play is way better than anticipated, and could be better than the '08-'09 team if Withey keeps developing based on their athleticism. The twins were freshmen then and they drove me crazy with their inability to dunk.

REHawk 8 years, 4 months ago

If T-Rob can maintain even 70% freethrow shooting, he should never have trouble scoring in double figures. I, too, will go with him most games for Hawk to Rock; a very safe wager! It appears that he remains too sped up for accurate shooting, a factor which guys like Sullinger and Kevin Love seem to have mastered early in their careers. That said, those two guys bring no more energy than Thomas to the game. I think we will see him gradually gain control and patient delivery as his minutes compound. Guard play is our biggest debit, at this stage. Come on, Naadir, rise to the occasions! We are gonna need your natural talents and inclinations. The leash is bound to shorten on those two greyhounds racing ahead of you.

Dale Koch 8 years, 4 months ago

T-Rob keeps the ball too low and defenses are just hacking away at him and he can't get the shot off. He is drawing fouls and will always have free throw opportunities, but we need him to make some of those attemps and a possible three point play.

The whole team looked very frustrated and T-Rob especially. Has to be the Hawaiian trip. Hope they recoup quickly.

EJ really struggling for some reason.

NWjayhawk20 8 years, 4 months ago

I will be the first to admit, I was Very skeptical of Teahan to start of the year and to be honest, I have not seen a thing to change my mind to date. Yes he can hit outside shots, but he is AWFUL and I mean AWFUL on the defensive end. The guys he will be guarding at the SG or SF positions will be boundlessly more athletic and quicker and our team defense is not good enough to make up for him getting burnt over and over again. Makes me miss BMac even more seeing him on the court.

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