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Oklahoma State's Mike Boynton in league of his own

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Kansas head coach Bill Self laughs with West Virginia head coach Bob Huggins while Oklahoma State head coach Travis Ford and his players, Le'Bryan Nash, left, and Marcus Smart await a television interview during Big 12 Media Day on Wednesday, Oct. 17, 2012 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo. Coaches and players representing each school in the conference were available for interviews. Nick Krug/Journal-World Photo

Kansas head coach Bill Self laughs with West Virginia head coach Bob Huggins while Oklahoma State head coach Travis Ford and his players, Le'Bryan Nash, left, and Marcus Smart await a television interview during Big 12 Media Day on Wednesday, Oct. 17, 2012 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo. Coaches and players representing each school in the conference were available for interviews. Nick Krug/Journal-World Photo by Nick Krug

No fewer than 38 different men have coached Big 12 schools against Bill Self during his 15 seasons at Kansas. Billy Gillispie, Bob Huggins and Melvin Watkins each led two different universities against Self's Kansas squads.

Just one man among those 38 coaches can boast a winning record in Big 12 games played in the regular season and postseason against KU's Hall of Fame coach. By Saturday evening, it's possible there won't be any.

Oklahoma State's Mike Boynton is in a league of his own in having a winning Big 12 record against Self. Then again, he has faced him just once, winning in Allen Fieldhouse, 84-79, Feb. 3.

Self puts his 18-0 record in Big 12, regular-season payback games on the line Saturday at Gallagher-Iba Arena against Boynton's Cowboys in a game that tips off at 3 p.m.

A look at what my unofficial research shows are the Big 12 records of men who have coached against Self:

Coach
School
Record
vs. Bill Self
in Big 12
Pct.
Mike Boynton
OSU 1-0 1.000
Frank Haith
MU 1-1 .500
Bob Knight
TTU 2-2 .500
Sean Sutton
OSU 1-1 .500
Eddie Sutton
OSU 2-3 .400
Travis Ford
OSU 5-10 .333
Wayne Morgan
ISU 2-4 .333
Steve Prohm
ISU 2-4 .333
Kelvin Sampson
OU 1-2 .333
Quin Snyder
MU 2-4 .333
Fred Hoiberg
ISU 4-9 .308
Rick Barnes
UT 6-15 .286
Chris Beard
TTU
1-3
.250
Bob Huggins
WVU 4-12 .250
Lon Kruger
OU 3-11 .214
Jamie Dixon
TCU 1-4
.200
Pat Knight
TTU 1-4 .200
Billy Gillispie
TAMU/TTU 1-4 .200
Frank Martin
KSU 2-9 .182
Bruce Weber
KSU 2-12 .143
Barry Collier
NEB 1-6 .143
Jim Woolridge
KSU 1-6 .143
Scott Drew
BU 3-23 .115
Trent Johnson
TCU 1-8 .111
Mike Anderson
MU 1-9 .100
Brad Underwood
OSU 0-2 .000
Melvin Watkins
TAMU/MU 0-2 .000
Tad Boyle
COL 0-3 .000
Billy Kennedy
TAMU 0-3 .000
Chris Walker
TTU 0-3 .000
Jeff Capel
OU 0-6 .000
Ricardo Patton
COL 0-6 .000
Shaka Smart
UT 0-6 .000
Tubby Smith
TTU 0-6 .000
Mark Turgeon
TAMU 0-6 .000
Jeff Bzdelik
COL 0-8 .000
Greg McDermott
ISU 0-8 .000
Doc Sadler
NEB 0-11 .000

Comments

Steve Corder 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Ok Tom, how about a tougher conversation regarding being "in a league of his own."

Bill Self and Phog Allen?

Tom Keegan 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Tough one. If the mandatory-retirement deal had not been imposed Phog might have won two national titles with Wilt, but 14 Big 12 titles in a row!!!!

Steve Corder 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Different eras which demanded different requirements for success make comparisons difficult, if not impossible. However, would you agree or disagree that if Self stays for another 15 years, while squeezing out at least one more national championship, he'll eclipse Phog?

By-the-way, have you read PHOG?

Jonathan Allison 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Tom, I find this lunch break articles very interesting and I appreciate the work that you put into them.

I wonder how many of those coaches won in their first meeting with Bill Self and KU... I'd guess Rick Barnes and Kelvin Sampson. Rick Barnes probably had a pretty good record against KU before 2008.

Also, did you include Bob Huggins record while at KSU?

Tom Keegan 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Thanks, Jonathan. I did include Huggins' record at KSU (0-3). Melvin Watkins 0-1 at A&M and Mizzou. Billy Clyde's record includes A&M and Tech.

Chandler Accipiter 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Well, at least Doc got a job from Self after he put him on the bottom of this list!

Dirk Medema 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Bobby Knight with essentially the best record and without a lot to work with iirc. Testament to his ability to coach though obviously challenged in the player management area. Makes me appreciate Coach all the more for that reason. Wish I could hear him with just the team. Devonte's development article talks about how even his criticisms are phrased so well that they are just that much more motivation to develop. Phenomenal. Simply phenomenal.

Jerry Walker 9 months, 2 weeks ago

So sweet to see the boy genius, Shaka Smart, near the bottom of the list.

David Robinett 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Ask Shaka Smart what happens after you win the first meeting with Bill Self.

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