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Tuesday, January 23, 2018

Sooners recover late to knock off Kansas

Kansas center Udoka Azubuike (35) dumps a pass to the middle beyond Oklahoma guard Kameron McGusty (20) and Oklahoma forward Khadeem Lattin (3) during the first half at Lloyd Noble Center on Tuesday, Jan. 23, 2018 in Norman, Oklahoma.

Kansas center Udoka Azubuike (35) dumps a pass to the middle beyond Oklahoma guard Kameron McGusty (20) and Oklahoma forward Khadeem Lattin (3) during the first half at Lloyd Noble Center on Tuesday, Jan. 23, 2018 in Norman, Oklahoma.

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Norman, Okla. — The hack-a-Udoka-Azubuike strategy implemented by Oklahoma coach Lon Kruger and his Sooners in the final minutes of Tuesday night’s game against Kansas worked like a charm in an 85-80 victory for OU at Lloyd Noble Center.

The crunch-time shift away from the norm took away from the Jayhawks’ flow and productivity on the offensive end of the floor, as OU turned a three-point hole into a five-point win.

Azubuike missed all six of his free-throw attempts between the 3:37 and 1:56 marks as the Sooners fouled the 7-footer every trip down the floor, aiming to put Azubuike, who entered the game as a 41-percent foul shooter at the line. The sophomore big went 1-for-8 in the game and scored nine points.

A Lagerald Vick follow jam of a missed floater by Devonte’ Graham with 2:22 to play made it an 80-77 Kansas lead, but the damage was done and the Sooners closed the night scoring eight unanswered points.

OU star freshman point guard Trae Young put up 26 points on 7-for-9 shooting and dished 9 assists in his first matchup with Kansas (16-4 overall, 6-2 Big 12).

Jayhawks senior Svi Mykhailiuk led his team with 24 points, making 6 of his 13 3-pointers.

Here’s a quick look back at some of the action:

• The game turned when: The offense fell off a cliff in the game’s final minutes.

With no rhythm or confidence to be found in wake of the let’s-foul-Azubuike strategy, Kansas missed each of its four field goal attempts in the final 1:20.

Three-pointers by Christian James and Brady Manek in the final 1:09 assured Oklahoma (15-4 overall, 5-3 Big 12) of a victory.

• Offensive highlight: As sophomore center Azubuike became the focal point of the KU offense out of the halftime break, the 7-footer made sure to let the OU frontcourt know his intentions of dominating — at least for the first few minutes — in the second half.

After Graham drove into the paint to draw Oklahoma’s defense, the senior point guard dished to Azubuike, who had no interest in letting the presence of Sooners big Khadeem Lattin stopping him from trying to tear down the rim.

Azubuike exploded off the floor, extended the ball higher than Lattin could reach and hammered a one-handed jam over and through his defender for a savage finish.

The big man’s big start to the second half — four baskets in a two-minute stretch after going scoreless in the first half — helped Kansas build an eight-point lead after trailing by as many as 10 points before intermission.


• Defensive highlight: With the Sooners in position to apply some extra padding to their halftime lead, freshman phenom Young was denied the chance to send OU to the locker room on a high note.

With 5.5 seconds remaining and the length of the floor in front of him, Young took an in-bound pass and sped off with a buzzer-beating layup on his mind.

When he reached the paint, though, Mitch Lightfoot met the potential All-American in the air to swat Young’s shot out of bounds.

OU got no last-second bucket to close the half and Young didn’t see the ball go through the net on a shot attempt for the first time (3-for-4, 8 points, six assists in the first 20 minutes).

• Key stat: Points off turnovers. Few things come in as handy in a hostile environment as home team mistakes that set up easy scores.

Kansas often cashed in on those opportunities Tuesday night and each time it did it seemed to settle the visitors down and/or provide a nice offensive spark against high-scoring OU.

In all, Oklahoma gave the ball away 16 times, and Kansas benefited to the tune of 22 points, winning that hustle-point category on the road by 13.

• Up next: The Jayhawks will be back in Lawrence on Saturday for the Big 12/SEC Challenge and a meeting with Texas A & M (3:30 p.m., ESPN).


More news and notes from Kansas vs. Oklahoma


By the Numbers: Oklahoma 85, Kansas 80.

By the Numbers: Oklahoma 85, Kansas 80.

Comments

Daniel Kennamore 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I honestly can't think of a single worse piece of coaching from Self than his decision to leave Dok in during the hack-a-shaq.

Literally lost us the game.

David Morrison 10 months, 3 weeks ago

You are absolutely correct Daniel. Should have substituted "offense for defense" in the last 4 minutes with Dok. I predicted this would happen sooner or later. Tonight was the night. Anyone else shooting free throws for us down the stretch would likely have spellled victory for us. Blame this one on Coach Self.

Steve Johnson 10 months, 3 weeks ago

This loss is 100% on self and his coaches. What a horrible job, anyone could see this one coming. Was Graham there tonight? Hello Vick, if you are available please let us know. De Sousa, please say you don't want to go in, this is way above you at this stage of your career ( not your fault you will be great) Big Dok, we all love you and you may be the most improved player we have seen but fake an injury so yu cant shoot free throws, (Don't stop playing you may be the best big man we have ever had) This loss was all on Self. no clue what he was thinking

Steve Zimmerman 10 months, 3 weeks ago

You realize Young only took 9 shots, right? LoL on faking injury..

Brian Mellor 10 months, 3 weeks ago

It's a reasonable answer - better now than in March, but it was just - at least two too many to really feel like that great of a call. It's a point - there will come a game that we really need Azubuike in during late-game situations at a more crucial point than this. Maybe this will be the spark needed to make changes, underhand free throws - something. But goddam, what a terrible way to have a great overall performance tossed in the garbage.

Danny Hernandez 10 months, 3 weeks ago

just feel like Coach Self gave the game to OU. the fouling obviously stopped the offense flow from Kansas's perspective. With each foul on Azu, I was curious why they all weren't intentional against OU since it was intentional

David Robinett 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Opposing view here. Bill self did not get outcoached tonight. He knew exactly what he was doing.

Does it occur to you guys that you Doca will need to be able to make free throws for us to get past the elite eight or win the NC? The answer is probably yes so Bill is thinking long-term.

You don’t think he knew what Kruger was doing? Do you think he expected Doug to make those pressure free throws? I think it was a calculated risk. He knew that if Doug made enough and we pulled it out it would give him confidence but if he missed him and we lost the game it would motivate lamb highly to correct his issue with free throws.

So I don’t think you are a genius because you can see how we lost this game. Coach self is one step ahead of all of us.

Craig Carson 10 months, 3 weeks ago

i thought that same thing..only way Azibuike gets better is having experience taking pressure FT..though i thought it was a cowardly move to start fouling him at the 3 minute mark..to me,if imma OU player, that shows me that my coach has no faith in his team defensively to get stops

Gary Wilson 10 months, 3 weeks ago

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

DiscGolfer Jason 10 months, 3 weeks ago

As much as Dok needs to work on his FT shooting, Bill needs to work on his coaching tactics in EE games. Both are horrific.

Tom Jones 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Yeah, he really needs to work on his shooting in Elite 8 games.

Thomas Green 10 months, 3 weeks ago

This should not have happened and was a terrible mistake on Self’s part. If Dok can’t shoot FT, you don’t teach him how in a game of this magnitude. In fact, let’s hope it doesn’t screw him up! I guess it could go either way. Get someone to help the technical aspect of his shooting in practice for goodness sake, don’t pull this kinda stupidness in a game!

Kruger must have thought he could flip 1 or 2 possessions with that strategy and got much more...gift wrapped from Self. He probably couldn’t believe his luck!

Richard Quinlan 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Thats the single worst coaching Ive seen in watching 35 years of KUBB. 5 coaches sitting on the bench and not one could see that Dok was a liability in the last 3 minutes ? That was a pathetic display of stubborn or stupid. These kids played their butts off to win that game and Self handed it to OU.

David Robinett 10 months, 3 weeks ago

The guys that complain about self being two and six in elite eight games, and how you would rather have an NC rather than a conference championship ought to be jumping for joy.

Coach was actually trying to make a key player better in the LONG RUN and ready for March madness. Does anybody think will have a long run in March without Dok?

David Morrison 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I'm an old man and can shoot 8 out of 10 free throws. Dok cannot shoot the ball outside of 3 ft... period. This scenario will play out again and again. Self blew it... even he admitted it was a mistake. Bad coaching.

DiscGolfer Jason 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I agree. Ever notice, with the exception of the Morris twins, that KU's bigs can't shoot past 3 ft.

David McNickle 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I remember Bragg not wanting to shoot inside of 10 feet.

Tom Jones 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Perry Ellis, Darnell Jackson, Darrell Arthur, Wayne Simien, Nick Collison and Drew Gooden (just from this century, I can keep going...) say "hi".

DiscGolfer Jason 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Right. I meant to say KU's bigs under Self. Roy's were golden.

Lawrence McGlinn 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I've never seen a situation like this improve a shooter's free throws.There is a reason he does not shoot well, and it will continue to be a problem, regardless of cute ideas about how to motivate him. Some pretty proud big men never learned to shoot free throws well.

Mike Hart 10 months, 3 weeks ago

On the road with 3 mins left in the game...and after missing 4 consecutive free throws.... he absolutely should've been yanked. That enabled OU to get back into the game... with all the consecutive missed FTs essentially the same thing as 3 consecutive turnovers. I'm a Bill Self fan, but this one is on him. It was also amazing to me how off Graham was in the 2nd half. 1-9 on 3 point shooting.... 4-19 for the game. Can't have that.

Barry Weiss 10 months, 3 weeks ago

well, that one hurts in that it sure feels like we gave away a road win. I get it that some of you want Dok to feel the pressure, but dang, lets bag the b-12 first. I'm curious what coach said after the game about leaving Dok in there. Lightfoot has come a long was and is probably close to equal in his ability to block shots and protect the rim. Dok is doing great in all other areas, he just sucks big time at the line. Can't he just spend all of his practice time doing nothing but working with someone who can help him? He's clearly lost at the line.

and another game Vick is just not engaged. Thank goodness Svi and Malik are coming on strong. I was down on Malik earlier, but man, he has found his stride. Man, we gave away a road win at Norman. That sucks.

Drew Doerfler 10 months, 3 weeks ago

i'm going to preface this by saying that i love having self as our coach and don't want any other coach.....but.......that loss was 100% on him......that idiocy didn't help us in the short term and it didn't help us in the long term. i feel sorry for azubuike even being put into that position. so now in any close game the other team has a an easy blueprint to follow to beat KU. how did this help azubuike's confidence....i think it did the opositive...how did this help in the long term.....is azubuike going to miraculously become a better free throw shooter this season? i don't think so....so the outcome will be the exact same every time azubuike is in the game late in a close game. it is what it is.....azubuike is not a bad free throw shooter, he is one of the worst free throw shooters i have seen? i feel for him. i know he is trying and probably feels horrible about letting his team down. he shouldn't have been in that situation. i'm still trying to figure out one reason to leave him in that game foul after foul after foul after foul after foul......i admit....i'm completely dumbfounded right now

Barry Weiss 10 months, 3 weeks ago

agreed, I feel bad for Dok. The kid gives it his all and is a huge part of our team, heck, he carried us tonight. But even he knows his FT game hurts us the last few minutes. You could see him holding his head in his hands as the game ended. He should not feel like he lost it for us. He needs help. Can't we get some expert to help him?

John Gill 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Clearly Self is stubborn and bears responsibility for this loss. ‘dok was a big plus for the team up until they began fouling him intentionally. My take is he’s taking a calculated risk with the big fella. Let him realize how important he is to his teammates by suffering the embarrassment of the loss and that becomes motivation to practice harder and focus more during games - something that pays big dividends late in the season. The risk is destroyed confidence and a forthcoming mental block built on fear of failure. The real coaching in this case takes place in practice and away from the spotlight of prime time games.

Thomas Green 10 months, 3 weeks ago

For those that think this was some kind of genius move by Self for the long term benefit of Azubuike and the team, it appears after the game he wasn’t quite so sure it was the correct thing to do.

John Gill 10 months, 3 weeks ago

You could also argue the real reason we lost was sub-par defense. We were out shot (both overall and at 3-P.T.)and out-rebounded and frankly a damn near-miracle we had a lead at all close to the end. you don’t win games on the road if losing both of those stat categories.

Drew Doerfler 10 months, 3 weeks ago

does anyone truly think that dok isn't already trying to become a better free throw shooter and that this will somehow make him work harder......guess what...look at azubuike's shot and technique and the fact that he hasn't been playing basketball that long....there is no way that he will become a much better free throw shooter this season...it won't happen.....his form is atrocious......he will be a liability late in games all season...it is what it is...he does alot of great things...but his free throw shooting will cause loss after loss in close games if self continues to leave him in..........

Gary Wilson 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Bill Self owes Dok a huge apology for sabotaging him like that on national TV. I've never seen anything like it, and added to all the recruiting failures, makes me wonder when it'll be time to move on.

Bryce Landon 10 months, 3 weeks ago

You mentioned the recruiting failures - Is it any wonder Zion Williamson picked Duke over several other schools, including us?

Tom Jones 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Agreed, Self is a horrible recruiter.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAAHAAAAAA!!!

Robert Brock 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I have practiced free throw shooting using the Udoka-style FT Method: elbow way out, lots of side-spin, short-arming...and I can only make 2 out of 50 shots. Rejoice! Azubuike can make at least 3 or 4 out of 50. Pretty accurate for that style!

Mike Barnhart 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Doke missed some free throws. Devonte missed 15 field goals!!!!

He looks like he’s hitting a wall...hope it ends soon!

Drew Doerfler 10 months, 3 weeks ago

and another game that cunliffe hasn"t seen the floor.....our players are getting tired...it's not like vick or aand garrett are tearing things up.....was vick even in this game again? over under on cunliffe transferring at the end of the season?

RJ King 10 months, 3 weeks ago

To sit out another year? I think not. Zero.

Brian Shain 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I love Self as much as anybody but this one is on him. I agree with comment above about not teaching him how to shoot free throws in this kind of game. Should be done by practicing. And another point is why leave him in and let him stand in the corner to not get fouled. What's that do except have us play 4 on 5. This game could have really set the stage for number 14. I did think it was funny it took the announcers a little bit to figure it out. Lightfoot is just as good on defense so just take him out instead of embarrassing himself and putting him in the corner and telling him to not move. I've always felt like the hack a shaq is a cheap way to win a game. I wouldn't feel great about it if I was an ou coach or player. It's within the rules so I guess good job Mr. Kruger.

Steve Johnson 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Big concerns, Cunliffe is a nothing, Big Dok has no chance on the line and this game may have harmed hi long term thanks Self, Graham is tired and it shows, Vick is no where to be found, Garret hustles but his shot is worse that Doks free throws, Svi cant defend a 3 worth a darn, Newman was there star again. We lack a go to player and the Coach may have hurt this team tonight. Worse job Self has done as a Jayhawk

Bryce Landon 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't say tonight was his worst coaching job, but it's in the same ZIP code with a lot of other bad coaching jobs he has done in years gone by.

Justin Kruse 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I don't mind losing if it's to a better team and they beat us. We just lost this one, actually gave it away.

They couldn't stop Udoka inside but we just settle for jump shots, and we stop driving the ball. We can get a three anytime we want- get the freaking ball inside!

I hate to single out any player but what in the world was Silvio doing? Played less than a minute, picked up a foul, gave away a rebound, and had two or three turnovers. I know he was in for less than a minute but he should have been pulled way sooner!

And, finally, keeping Dok in at the end. In that situation, knowing what OU was going to do, I bet the person that wants to see Dok out of the game the most right there is Dok. I'm sure he would have LOVED to see Mitch at the table ready to check in. And there were plenty of dead ball opportunities to make the offense for defense switch, or just keep Mitch in to the end. No way is that going to help the kid out short term or long term. Love Coach Self but really disagree with this one. This would have been a big time road win for us and we gave it away.

Rock Chalk!

Danny Hernandez 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Azu gift wrapped the win to OU. Now if I was OU, do I feel like I stole a game that wasn't mine to win? Probably but a win is a win. the game changed complexion with the dox fouling and all the sports writes say it's Trae Young, its trae young. I'm sorry, it was hack-a-Dok. reminds me of the cheap wins by Valvano

Steve Johnson 10 months, 3 weeks ago

great players coming in next year, Sam will transfer because he is not as good as the incoming freshmen and won't get any time. Big Dok will be the best big man in college next year if he can learn to shoot some free throws, Vick may be gone too inconsistent and seems to have a bad attitude, Newman will step up and be the leader, Garret will improve on his shot, Mitch is getting better and doesn't hurt you. De Sousa, who knows, he looks horrible and out of place when he is in the game. He is the biggest worry i see.

RJ King 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Sam will not transfer, only to sit out another year. Vick is quiet. I don't see a bad attitude, only occasional lapses in attention. He'll be back, and a senior. Agree with assessment of Newman, Garrett, and Lightfoot.

DeSousa will continue to learn the system and college pace. He'll back up Dok some, and play alongside him some - sharing minutes with the other bigs.

Barry Weiss 10 months, 3 weeks ago

what's clear to me is that despite a whole year of bad form on his FT shooting, coaches have not had him change his shot at all. Its still that funky spin move weird shot from left to right with little arch. It's probably the worst delivery I've ever seen. Cant they change him?

Doug Stahler 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Flashback: So when Kansas Coach Bill Self ordered his players to start fouling Memphis players with roughly 2 1/2 minutes left in regulation, an unusually early point........

Bryce Landon 10 months, 3 weeks ago

No one has been as hard on Bill Self as I have the last few years - often deservedly so - and tonight he deserves the full vent of all Jayhawk fans' wrath. He single-handedly lost this game for us by not taking Udoka out of the game when it became clear what Lon Kruger was trying to do. What the hell was he trying to prove by leaving him in there? The guys in blue played an overall tough game, but Self screwed his team over big time.

I didn't expect KU to win, but I also didn't expect KU to lose this way - tantalizing us fans with hopes of a big road win with a 10-point second-half lead only for Udoka to do Udoka things at the FT line and Self sit by slack-jawed and not intervene to prevent it. I could have lived with a loss if we had trailed wire to wire; but to lose this way leaves me feeling like I've been kicked in the junk.

Thank you, Coach Self. Thank you very little. >:(

Barry Weiss 10 months, 3 weeks ago

what's perplexing is that coach has taken him out in previous games with this exact same scenario. so I wonder what he thought was different tonight and why he left him in.

Bj Cassady 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Easy to Blame Self but G shot the ball terrible 4 of 19 and clanked his first 2 Free throws and another bad game for Vick. Yeah Doke missed his freebies and a lot of it is now mental but why is not Sam playing? He could spell one of the guards. I know we will be dominate next year but this year is still worth saving. We need all hands on deck. DeSousa is lost but needs court time. Doke needs to be fouled and needs to make them. He needs to shoot 100-200 a day and if the style he uses doesn't work, try something else. Good game Svi, good game Malik.

Bryce Landon 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Yes, another concern is that we have improved out depth with Cunliffe becoming eligible and De Sousa cleared to play. So why are we not taking advantage of it and allowing them more time to play and give our main guys the rest they need?

Justin Kruse 10 months, 3 weeks ago

As far as tonight goes, Silvio was in there for less than a minute and was responsible for probably a 6-8 point swing, in the wrong direction! He just looked lost out there.

Lawrence McGlinn 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Nevermind Dok for a minute. What was with the time out with about 2 minutes to go. They come out after it and Graham dribbles for 15 seconds and throws up a brick from about 25. What was the plan there? No movement from the rest of the team, no apparent plan from the coaches. It was clueless offense just out of a timeout!! Not really Hall of Fame coaching tonight, not even considering the Poke-a-Dok.

Robert Brock 10 months, 3 weeks ago

If Vick continues to play so poorly, you might expect Cunliffe to take a generous number of his minutes. Cunliffe must not impress Self in practice.

Mike Greer 10 months, 3 weeks ago

For starters, I've lost a lot of respect for Lon Kruger, ok, I know it's legal and a strategy, but that's the most Chicken S&/T thing I've ever seen. Had to get that off my chest.

I wrote earlier that to win we would have to play offense and defense at a high level, some did, and although Devonte had a good game with respect to ball handling, he couldn't get the ball in the ocean if he was standing on the beach tonight. And Young went past him at will, he also got by everyone else that was on him. We can't win games when Devonte goes 1 for 9 from behind the arc and 4 of 19 overall. Nor will we go very far with Vick going 0 of 4 from 3 point range. The good news, searching really hard to find some, was Lightfoot made some shots and played fairly well. Svi and Newman both had great games, but it's going to take more than two guys to win games.

Bryce Landon 10 months, 3 weeks ago

There's nothing chicken-bleep about what Lon Kruger did. It's excellent strategy. If Bill Self isn't smart enough to take Udoka out, that's not Kruger's problem. If anything, it's Bill Self you should lose respect for because he played right into Kruger's hands.

Mike Hart 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Agreed, Bryce. Even if someone doesn't like Kruger's strategy, Self could have diffused that strategy but chose not to.

David McNickle 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Disagree on the first part Mike. If you are not good defensively, you have to find a way to steal possessions, especially at the end of the game. (1) Hope that Graham or Vick brick another 3? Maybe. (2) Take a chance on Newman, Svi, or Dok not scoring? Not a percentage play last night. (3) Foul the guy, with someone who has not played the entire game, and take a chance on his 41% FT shooting? It's the most proactive approach. If your shortstop is 4-4 with 2 HR's but averages an error a game, do you take him out with a run lead in the 9th? Agree with you on the second part except with the new hand checking rules implemented in the last 4 years, no one will be able to stay in front of Young without giving up the 3 ball. I thought Graham played well considering he was on Young all night. Could've shot the ball less but I put some of that on Vick for basically not being a scoring option at all.

Mike Barnhart 10 months, 3 weeks ago

If you had a person, who’s never played one second of basketball, step to the free throw line and shoot like Doke you’d stop them and say, “Oh, God, not like that, keep your elbow in, bend your knees and pronate your wrist after the shot!”

What in the world are they telling Doke???

Barry Weiss 10 months, 3 weeks ago

we actually shot better from the field than we did at the line....45 to 43%. And a lot of Dok's bricks were the front end of a one and one, leaving even more points on the table. I'm done with this game.

Jaston Archie 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Devonte is tough plays a lot of minutes, God bless him, but I’m ready for him to go. He’s being asked to lead a team and he’s just not that good, once again he shoots brick after brick just like against Oregon. Trae Young made him look like an Appalachian St player

Allin Herring 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Gee I can not believe Kruger is getting called a Chicken Blank. I always thought a coaches job was to put their team in position to WIN. Kruger did this and Bill was found sleeping at the wheel and cost us the game. Yes this loss is on You Bill. I am sure you will say I did make an justment by moving Dok to the corner so he would not get fouled and clear the middle. Really Bill how well,did that work? Kinda like your ability to continue to recruit one and dones with issues? Kinda like recruiting a bunch of players for next year last year and getting not much for this year. Oh yea you did get cheating Billy! Oh yea we got Desousa out of school early so he can waste a semester learning. You did not get much help Bill from our leader Graham who had a horrible night and from Vick who has had a horrible 2018 so far it bottom line this loss is on You Bill.

KD Krase 10 months, 3 weeks ago

All things considered, it was Dok that kept us in the game the first part of the second half. Even with the missed free throws, if we made a few other shots we could have won the game. Can't put the blame on one person.

Andy Godwin 10 months, 3 weeks ago

As stated before the season, recruiting has caught up with Self. Looking towards next season, Self brought in Moore and the Lawson brothers to sit on the bench. Coleby leaves because Udoka would get the minutes, then Self has to find a replacement, and Whitman doesn’t fit in, suddenly exiting leaving Self desperate to add a Big to back up Udoka in the middle of the season. Then the Billy Preston fiasco, a top 10 type talent, who has size, never sees the court. Unlike the NBA, you can’t make a trade or pick up a player in the D/G league, so Self goes the high school route. Some fans thought that De Sousa would be a savior but what Bill Self player has ever made an impact when he has not had time to prove himself in games, aka Cunliffe. How can anyone expect a high school kid to pick up the college game overnight. What you see is what you get. This team is walking a tightrope between being good (they are not a top 5 team) and finishing in the middle of the Big 12. By Monday night, KU will likely be tied with KSU and WVU and this talk of the Big 12 going through Allen Fieldhouse will be muted nationally again. Self is a great coach, but like all programs, missing out on 17/18 year old recruits and injuries can derail a season. Self has a good team, but not a great team. He has done well to try and overcome the lack of size, but other coaches are smart and can easily see KU’s warts. Simply put, this will be a very bumpy season.

Bryce Landon 10 months, 2 weeks ago

Interesting that you bring up injuries. We are very fortunate that we have not had the injury bug bite us yet this season. We are one sprained ankle or torn ACL away from going from a top-4 seed in the NCAA Tournament to being an NCAA bubble team.

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