Originally published January 20, 2018 at 08:02a.m., updated January 20, 2018 at 09:49a.m.

Freshman forward Billy Preston signs with European professional team, ends KU career

Kansas forward Billy Preston dribbles a ball at half court as his teammates get stretched prior to tipoff against TCU, Saturday, Jan. 6, 2018 at Schollmaier Arena.

Kansas forward Billy Preston dribbles a ball at half court as his teammates get stretched prior to tipoff against TCU, Saturday, Jan. 6, 2018 at Schollmaier Arena.


The saga surrounding the status and eligibility of Kansas freshman Billy Preston has reached its end.

And that end comes as bad news for the Jayhawks and a different kind of uncertainty for Preston.

After spending months trying to clear up his eligibility, Preston has signed a contract with BC Igokea of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which will end his Kansas career without the former McDonald's All-American and highly touted prospect having played a single regular-season game for the Jayhawks.

Igokea, which plays in the Adriatic League and Bosnian League, announced the signing early Saturday morning through a statement.

“We are thrilled to welcome Billy Preston to our Club," the statement began. "We watched him when he was in high school at Oak Hill Academy and in the McDonald's All Star game. We are honored to have such a tremendous talent in our organization."

Just before 10 a.m., KU coach Bill Self confirmed that Preston's time at KU was finished.

"Billy’s family has been very upfront telling us that his first choice was to stay at Kansas, but with the uncertainty of the situation they needed to look at other potential options," Self said in a statement. "We are all disappointed that Billy never had the opportunity to experience college basketball competition but we certainly support him and wish him the best.”

Preston, a 6-foot-10 freshman from Los Angeles who played high school basketball at Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Va., was suspended for KU’s season opener for a violation of team rules, having missed both curfew and class the night before KU's game against Tennessee State.

He then missed the next 17 games, beginning with KU's win over Kentucky in November's Champions Classic in Chicago, as KU officials investigated the financial details of the car Preston was driving during a noninjury, single-car accident in early November.

Throughout the process, Self remained upbeat and optimistic that the situation would have a favorable outcome for both Preston and Kansas, but that tone changed slightly after KU's Jan. 14 victory over Kansas State, when Self said he did not see the need to call the NCAA "to keep asking every four hours, 'Is there anything?'"

Self said KU's investigation into the matter ended a few days before Christmas, which marked roughly six weeks since the issue surfaced. From there, KU's findings were turned over to the NCAA and Kansas waited for a ruling.

However, the NCAA did not rule on the situation over the next several weeks, in part because its offices were closed for the holidays and did not reopen until Jan. 2.

During this time, Preston's mother, Nicole Player, expressed increasing frustration regarding the delay.

In a series of tweets made on Jan. 3, Player said she could have elected to pull her son from KU and send him to play professionally in Europe but had not done so because she wanted him to be at Kansas.

Preston continued to practice with the Jayhawks the entire time he was held out of play and even was mixed into a handful of recent practices with the regular rotation, which led some fans to speculate that KU was planning to have him back this month.

That return never came.

At 10:42 a.m. Saturday, Preston shared his first comments about the situation via Twitter.

"We have fully cooperated with the NCAA and prepared to continue but it has been 67 days since this process began, and still no end in sight," he wrote. "Playing at the University of Kansas was a dream of mine but being a professional has always been my long-term goal. That day is finally here."

Player told ESPN's Jeff Borzello Saturday that Preston did not sign with an agent but plans to enter June's NBA Draft. Despite the tumultuous situation at Kansas, Preston remains a potential first-round pick.

— Check back to for more throughout the day as details become available.


Humpy Helsel 3 years, 2 months ago

It is probably good there is finally conclusion on the Billy Preston "drive by" career at Kansas. The poor kid has handled himself in limbo for so long in what appears to be a dignified fashion. So sad he had to be just left hanging that long. It probably serves the team as well at this point giving the coaches and players a sense of squad makeup and who plays, their roles, and who are the members of the supporting cast. Over time, clarity is better than the lack thereof. The very best to you, Billy. It may be a long, hard road. But remember, talent combined with work (and a little luck here and there) always wins out.

Kent Richardson 3 years, 2 months ago

"Drive by," Ha.

Something smells here. Was there information on the upcoming NCAA decision being a negative result? Then Billy's mother makes a phone call to Europe the same day and done deal? This negotiation/decision just about had to be going on for weeks didn't it? "Reached out to the family" was how long ago? Did family inform KU of pending offer or offers?

Should be an interesting statement coming from the family I would think. We were kind of cheering mom's sassing the NCAA but now I wonder what she knew and when.

David Kemp 3 years, 2 months ago

Agree. This has to be about more than a car. Somebody needs to educate these kids and family concerning patience. Can’t dip your hand in until you have declared a professional career.

Tom Gillaspie 3 years, 2 months ago

Finally. Moving on......without the distraction. Maybe this decision gives Kansas a slightly better shot at Zion. Not likely, but it would make next years class the best ever?

Phil Leister 3 years, 2 months ago

Sigh. Sorry Billy. Maybe you broke a rule,maybe you didn’t. But the NCAA sure could have made a decision and handed out a punishment, or not, well before now.

I don’t blam the kid one bit for getting the hell out of college.

Matthew Gaylor 3 years, 2 months ago

Who says the NCAA didn't make a decision? Maybe they said they aren't clearing him with that info, so instead of appealing, they chose to go overseas?

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

And you don't think the NCAA would publically announce their decision?

Of course, they would.

Good luck Billy!

Armen Kurdian 3 years, 2 months ago

No, there was a deadline w/the Bosnian team, and he had to make a decision. Went with what he knew. NCAA screwed this kid.

Gerry Butler 3 years, 2 months ago

Couldn't agree more Phil. I don't blame Billy one bit. -like you say did Billy make a mistake? - ya probably, but this whole thing was just BS - he didn't deserve to be hung up this long- Why shouldn't he go get him some little change , keep in shape while he is getting paid until he enters the NBA. wishing nothing but the best for you Billy, wish you could of played, another case of the NCAA screwing people over.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Wow... I hope you don't teach your kids those same lessons of unaccountability. Take the easy road, kid. Made a mess? Leave someone else to clean it up.. that is now THEIR problem. Instead, go make some $$$

Dirk Medema 3 years, 2 months ago

How amazingly hypocritical.

"Billy probably made a mistake" = "the NCAA screwing people over"

Len Shaffer 3 years, 2 months ago

People seem to be forgetting that six weeks of this was for KU's investigation. The NCAA is often a problem, but in this case they had the investigation for less than three weeks, which is not a tremendously long time. Of course I don't blame Billy for getting tired of waiting, but this is not all on the NCAA.

DeMarcus Addison 3 years, 2 months ago

I dont wanna hear anything negative about billy....he missed curfew and got into a fender bender and the ncaa screwed him over....he handled himself like a true team mate....I wish the best for him and his family

Steve Johnson 3 years, 2 months ago

About as naive a post as could be. He didn't get screwed over, his lifestyle for the rich and famous screwed the jayhawks. Cant take gifts and for you or your family as a college athlete. Had to be more serious than originally thought or it would have been cleared up quickly.

Allan Olson 3 years, 2 months ago

Neither KU or NCAA put his butt in that driver's seat. And, Preston had to know only bad things were going to happen from his possession of the car. Even his Mom had to try and deflect his oversight on to the big bad NCAA. I feel that Self now owes the fans and media some summary of the KU Compliance report[s] to the NCAA. Certainly the name of the car's owner and how Preston came into possession. Have to wonder if his path to NBA riches will go thru the Balkans. Or will he be just another chapter of the Josh, Cliff and Diallo roadshow?

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

I don't feel Self now "owes the fans and media some summary . . . " UNLESS the compliance report shows Billy to be innocent of accepting any improper benefits. If that is the case, then Self / KU owes a reveal to fans, media, and most importantly Billy and his family.

Without such summary we are left to assume the worst, which is likely the truth - BECAUSE of the very lack of reporting otherwise. A lot of saving face here. I, too, would love to know what individual/s were responsible for creating this mess, but we'll probably never know. Chalk it up to generic "bad," "greedy," "impatient," people and move on.

If that's the case, KU is better off without BP and time to turn positive attention to DeSousa and rest of team.

Len Shaffer 3 years, 2 months ago

That could be true; we'll never know the specifics.

But I wonder how many other players and teams would get in trouble if a player had an accident. It's not like Billy was the only NCAA player driving around in a car that was obtained through questionable means; he was just unlucky enough to get in an accident.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

It has to make you wonder what could have happened if Billy was a better driver.

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

Ha Ha. Very funny comment. (truth)

Or ... we could also be forfeiting the entire season. Not funny.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 2 months ago

you are forgetting the little detail about KU's "impermissible benefits" investigation. Do you really think KU would have done that if Billy's financial records proved he bought the car? Why would KU screw themselves over like this. No, the more likely scenario is someone gave him this car and basically screwed up Billy's career at KU and our own team. I hope whoever was involved getting that car to him is punished in some way.

Dale Rogers 3 years, 2 months ago

As far as I know there is no rule against someone giving a player a car so long as that giving is not done to gain favor for a future decision. If a friend gave him the car so he'd have transportation in college and there was no intent to gain favor, then isn't that ok? Geez, people, let's convict the kid even though we know nothing at all about the situation.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 2 months ago

well obviously the car belonged to SOMEONE before Billy and that someone was not a relative or someone that KU felt comfortable with just giving it to him. His own mother could have given it to him, but the investigation would require her to show some financial records that she did this. It certainly appears the chain of title to this car, prior to Billy, was not his mother.

Dirk Medema 3 years, 2 months ago

You apparently need to know more. There is indeed a rule against getting a benefit for being an athlete that is not available to every student.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

Exactly what Dirk stated. And stop using we so much.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Dale: "As far as I know there is no rule against someone giving a player a car so long as that giving is not done to gain favor for a future decision. " Uh... yes there IS something wrong with that. If a kid decides to come to KU and then someone rewards him with a car... that is wrong. The decision was made.. and it's not a future decision. You can't give the kid ANYTHING like that. You can't loan him a BMW or even a free rental car.

Scott Burkhart 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy Preston was in possession of an automobile that he shouldn't have had. I don't know if it was a gift or if it was being loaned to him but either way, he was told or led to believe, that he was above the rules and they didn't apply to him. Too bad. It is a hard lesson to learn but maybe it will help him grow into a good adult.

Dirk Medema 3 years, 2 months ago

DeMarcus - You also forgot that he missed class and the curfew. It appears he was more casual than appropriate for a scholarship athlete. They all get classes on these things at the beginning of the year. It's not a secret that he should have been surprised to find out.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

You've come to the wrong place if you don't want to hear anything negative.

David Kelley-Wood 3 years, 2 months ago

Dang, I didn't seen that one coming. But, whether he did anything wrong or not, what else could he do at this point? Waiting wasn't exactly working for him. Still, I was hoping for a better outcome. Sorry, Billy. Good luck to you.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

What else could Billy do? HONOR YOUR COMMITMENT. All I heard about on here is what a great attitude Billy had about this whole situation, supporting his teammates, etc. Honest mistake or not, he did something that was inappropriate. For HAVING a car (not just "driving" one) that he probably should not have had... he made a mistake. So rather than punishment, he is rewarded with a pro contract. It is essentially saying: Time to bail and go make money. Self looks like an absolute moron throughout this whole process the way this played out after all the BS answers he gave on his view of this process.. and how it concluded.

Gerry Butler 3 years, 2 months ago

that's all you should hear Einstein. - Did you ever make a mistake there sparky? - and don't come and say - -OH and I paid for my mistake - ya? - well so did Billy - he sit 17 games and would of kept going if he hadn't decided to go -your the dam moron but thanks for stopping by

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Name calling is about all I would expect in response rather than a substantive rebuttal to my point: Honor your commitment. We don't know the story/details... but I'll say this. If Preston got word that the NCAA was going to rule against him .. and he is leaving... then he clearly did something wrong. He (or his mother) is not innocent. Alternatively, if he is just impatient and tired of waiting... and the NCAA eventually says no harm, no foul.. then he abandoned his teammates due to his refusal to wait until this issue is resolved. Billy Preston's actions (directly or indirectly) led to his not playing this year.. .and he quit the process. All this "Great attitude, kid" falls on deaf ears because he quit. Did I ever mistake in life? Yes, and I owned them. I didn't accept a car... and my family never negotiated with pro teams while the NCAA was reviewing. The issue is the commitment to his team. Billy's mother chose her kid making $$ now over his commitment to the University. The University didn't put Billy Preston in this situation... Billy Preston is responsible for putting himself in this situation.

Allan Olson 3 years, 2 months ago

For the last six+ months, Preston had free tuition, room/suite & board, books[?], all expense paid trip to Italy, free travel with the teams to sit on the bench...all paid for by taxpayers and donors. He's the one mostly responsible for any problems in team chemistry. Now, just tell us the real story before heading to off on the all expense paid trip to the Balkans.

Dale Rogers 3 years, 2 months ago

He did something inappropriate? Please tell us what you know that the rest of us don't.

Dirk Medema 3 years, 2 months ago

We know it took KU 6 weeks to figure out how he got a car.

We know that a lot of athletes have cars without any problem.

We know that KU is not out to harm the BB program.

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

Mike, I agree with your comments except "Self looks like an absolute moron . . . "

To me, Self looks like a coach who is very adept at media relations. Self went out of his way to not comment on everything he likely knew. It was completely appropriate for him to NOT state or imply anything regarding innocence or guilt, until the investigation ended.

His statements of "we'll know soon . . . " were probably a combination of hope, knowledge, and stall tactics to deflect from the real question. I respect his public restraint, patience, and class with the entire situation.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

This isn't a question about legality. He could have left at any time. He was rewarded for being a high-level athlete. Bosnia couldn't care less about what type of car he drives.

Curious as to what you think should have been the proper punishment ?

Marc Frey 3 years, 2 months ago

Not surprised at all. Too bad. Move on, this is Kansas Basketball.

Suzi Marshall 3 years, 2 months ago

I'm looking forward to Billy's mother speaking out, as she promised, with details what happened. Kansas invested a lot and was heavily counting on Preston.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

I don't hear you calling for his mom to sue the NCAA anymore, Suzi? Interesting. His mom is talking to Bosnian pro offers... all while the process is playing out. All about the $$... which is what got her son in trouble in the first place. Sounds to me like something stunk and that is why Billy's mom was lining up plan B. I agree with one thing... now that it is over.. I want details as promised.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

If it was my son, I would be looking for alternatives in case it didn't work out at KU. I'm sure Bosnia wasn't the first team to inquire about Preston.

It's Jan 20th and nothing new has changed. Playing at the pro level in Bosnia will at least give the NBA some idea on how good Preston will be.

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

Yes, but if it was my son - and I didn't give him my car - I would have been wondering how the heck he ended up with a car in Lawrence. But then, I DO realize teenage boys do NOT tell their Moms everything.

Danny Hernandez 3 years, 2 months ago

crap just continues to happen to the Kansas basketball team, I really feel bad for Billy, Can't imagine the daily frustration he was experiencing just waiting and waiting and waiting.

His mom says he hasn't signed with an agent though, so what's that about?

Steve Johnson 3 years, 2 months ago

Realized that he hd no chance and he and or his family broke the rules which were severe. Blame this one on recruiting and wasting tone of time, energy and money. You have to wonder how a college student from a not well to do family drives luxury cars, dresses in designer clothes and has diamonds and gold. Guess is that mommy didn't give those to him for graduation. Cant wait to hear the rest of the story.

Danny Hernandez 3 years, 2 months ago

Can compliance have done a better job at the beginning of school to investigate all incoming freshman so as to avoid any potential issues?

Barry Weiss 3 years, 2 months ago

I've preached this too, hopefully KU learns something from this as well so that these recruits are throughly screened and told about how these things can turn out bad for you if you break a rule.

Tim Orel 3 years, 2 months ago

I haven't read about "luxury cars, designer clothes and has diamonds and gold". I heard the car was something not flashy (can't remember the specific model, but it wasn't what anyone would consider "luxury") and I never read anyone say he was dressed above his means. Maybe it is, but he wasn't doing any of that that I've heard of. If you do know this, I'd appreciate a link. Otherwise, it's slandering the kid.

Dale Rogers 3 years, 2 months ago

It is a Dodge Charger. I don't know the year but heard it's not of "recent vintage." That's all I know about it.

Dee Shaw 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy is not going to play this year with KU? No way. I am completely shocked. Oh well good luck young man. Hope you use your talents to the best of your ability and use those talents to your benefit. Take care of yourself and family financially. Be smart. Take care.

Steve Johnson 3 years, 2 months ago

sounds like he was taking care of himself and family already. He is a talented young man so hopefully he can do well wherever he goes. He seems to have a great attitude so my bet is he will be successful

Jonathan Andrews 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy, you handled the major consequences of some minor infractions better than any 18yo I could imagine, and better than the adults who like to talk smack on him.

You have my respect, Billy; I understand and support your decision. I am only sad that our Compliance Dept and the NCAA didn't provide ANY sort of guidance while they conducted their investigation. There has to be some sort of provisional agreement that the school won't have to vacate wins by utilizing a player under investigation. He already served double of whatever he deserved, and the constant delays of an imminent announcement just added insult to injury.

David Kemp 3 years, 2 months ago

Agree that if the infraction was an eligibility killer should have been known early and everyone move on.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Interesting commentary... since we are still all just SPECULATING on what happened. We have been given ZERO details through 2 plus months other than "financial situation with a car he was driving". We don't know what he deserved... when we don't know what he did. Was he knowingly driving a car that he knew wasn't right? If so, then stop apologizing on behalf of the kid. This is all speculation until details are provided.

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

"... some sort of provisional agreement that the school won't have to vacate wins by utilizing a player under investigation."

Yes, as long as we all are perfectly OK if it turns out to be Kentucky, Duke, MSU, Mizzou, any Big 12 rival that turns out to be tied or ahead of us in the conference race, or any tournament team who beats us with such a player who is later found to have accepted impermissible benefits.

Dee Shaw 3 years, 2 months ago

Thank God “The Drama” is over. This will make winning the Big 12 this year even sweeter.

Gary Wilson 3 years, 2 months ago

The big man recruiting and handling on the team has been horrible since Dan the man left. We need Manning back!

Thomas Green 3 years, 2 months ago

Certainly not surprised he’s gone, surprised this was seemingly done without KU knowing or given the opportunity to release a statement alongside Mr. Preston. Obviously a bad outcome for KU, the team, alums and fans. My guess is there was an egregious enough discretion that warranted what happened, but I’m only speculating and that’s probably not appropriate not knowing many if any facts. Maybe the facts will come out at some point, but it’s a bad look all the way around. It is what it is and all involved need to move on and hopefully learn from this debacle. Hopefully it won’t happen again!

Chandler Accipiter 3 years, 2 months ago

There are good enough reporters covering KU, many on this site, that surely someday we will get the entire story. It's pretty crazy that we haven't so far. It's even funny that it is still reported that he missed that first game for "violation of team rules" separate from bigger investigation.

Matt Tait 3 years, 2 months ago

We'll certainly try but I'm not holding my breath. The need for anyone to disclose the full details now has gone way down given the fact that revealing them will not help anyone or anything.

I realize it would give the fan base some closure, but I'm not sure that's a huge priority for anyone.

Beyond that, if you knew Billy, you wouldn't have that hard of a time believing the Game 1 suspension was for something unrelated.

Kent Richardson 3 years, 2 months ago

The fan base will never be satisfied as we survive on emotion while ya'll survive on factual information.

My bottom line, at this time, is will the program have any liability? That is where you will help us gain clarity.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 2 months ago

I get what you are saying Matt, but I think the fan base should be more of a priority. Leaving it open ended like this tarnishes all parties....KU, the NCAA and Billy. I do not see what would be so difficult with KU disclosing at least some basics relating to how Billy came about to having this car, a time line which could also let us know if KU screwed up and should have known about it sooner, etc. Now all we have is people blaming all three. We don't need the name of who gave it to him kind of detail, just some basics.

Gerry Butler 3 years, 2 months ago

Exactly Matt - it wouldn't do anybody any good. Bottom line is Billy had moved on and I wish nothing but the best. - He is no longer a part of this program - -we don't need to know details - no reason to know , we have closure - -Billy is gone and we are moving on period. - I hope Billy does well succeeds - we sure the how don't need to try and sacrifice the poor kid - he is a kid - -we all were - we all made mistakes. - -good luck Billy

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

chuckle... right, it wouldn't do anybody any good to know details. If a booster gave a car to the kid... no one should be punished. If KU acted inappropriately, then it would be best not to reveal that. If KU was an innocent party in this... then speculation is better than clarification. If Billy Preston was truly in the know on his use of an inappropriate car, then let's just instead pretend the kid is a martyr who was screwed by both the NCAA and KU. Somebody... did SOMETHING inappropriate, and there should be consequences for that person, especially if they have ties to the University or are a sponsor of the University....

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

Could be wrong but I don't remember the NCAA making any final judgment in regard to Cliff Alexander.

People moved on pretty quickly.

Ryan Zimmerman 3 years, 2 months ago

Kid made bad decisions and paid the price. He handled it as well as he could during the investigation and didn't bitch and moan and cry about it. He waited to see if it would be handled one way or the other and had to make a decision. It was his own undoing, but did all he could to keep from being a distraction to the club.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Ryan, that was all fine and dandy and accurate perhaps... with what you said. But the rug gets pulled out from under... when you look at how Billy and his mother ULTIMATELY handled it. The outcome wasn't looking favorable, so if there is wrongdoing: KU stands to receive any penalty. Meanwhile, Billy Preston quits his team and goes overseas to play pro... NOW. The fact his mom was talking/negotiating plan B pro offers during this process is inappropriate too, by the way. I don't like how the Preston family (his mother) felt like they were doing KU a "favor" by having Billy come play at KU, when his mom has been saying all along that he could have gone overseas to make money. And that is JUST what happened. The message to Billy with his mother's guidance... is that if a mistake is made, rather than own up to it.. and deal with the consequences... then don't own up to it and deal with NCAA fallout. Instead, quit.. and turn pro. I don't like the smell of that message... and if they "had to make a decision"... then it should have come AFTER the NCAA ruled publicly.. not BEFORE.

Robert Lofthouse 3 years, 2 months ago

Kudos to the other players for keeping their mouths shut, even for the little bit they might know.

Blake Phillips 3 years, 2 months ago

is anyone surprised? I love how all all the posters are like "you handled yourself so well, proud of you, Billy". That's a crock of crap. The fact is: Billy jipped curfew, got in an accident, didn't tell coach right away and tried to sweep it under the rug because he knew he got his car illegally.

People like Billy need to grow up - they are typical kids who are entitled because they are great highschool basketball players - NOTHING MORE. Until they prove themselves at the next level, thats all they are.

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid for choosing Kansas & I wish his the best moving forward, but let's not all be on here pretending "how proud we are of him through this process". He costed our university money, essentially took a scholarship away, could have easily been a factor in Dwight Coleby leaving & guy from William and Mary.... and now look. It's set our program back and wasted tax payers & alumni money in the fact that we pay for recruiting too.

THESE KIDS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. stop pretending you didnt know how to conduct yourself appropriatelly when you were 18. it's utter non-sense. you dont jip and go out and get into trouble when you're on scholarship unless you're a moron and put yourself ahead of the team plain and simple.

Blake Phillips 3 years, 2 months ago

no thank you, Mike.

I'm tired of some of these dumb supporters of KU always coming on here and sweetening the issues. Same goes for football. People need to stop being so politically correct and call a spade a spade.

DeMarcus Addison 3 years, 2 months ago

Morningstar - DUI Morris twins - BB Gun incident Tyshawn - Fighting the football team Billy - Missed curfew..........Trust me, he could have been worse....but you love those guys i named before billy right (shrugs)

Blake Phillips 3 years, 2 months ago

apples and oranges brutha,

DUI, bb gun, fighting, - can happen to anyone. kids wanna drink and have fun. NCAA wont hammer your school for that offense.

knowing your driving around in an illegal vehicle..... puts the university at risk of getting penalties. certain things "smart" people and parents included.... should know better. Especially after the Adidas scandal. but some people are just dumb and naive.

DeMarcus Addison 3 years, 2 months ago

yeah, we should disregard those things.....those could never put the university in trouble.....good riddance billy smh

Barry Weiss 3 years, 2 months ago

if you think this is all about Billy missing a curfew, you need to go back to school.

Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 2 months ago

Once again … NOT a BB gun. It was an airsoft gun. A BB will put your eye out, kid. Rubber airsoft pellets, not so much.

Rae Bricil 3 years, 2 months ago

how was it an illegal vehicle? Did I miss the police becoming involved with a threat of jail time. We don't know exactly what happened but i am pretty sure the only rules he broke are the archaic ones put forward by the NCAA. I cant wait for the way day this institution goes a way there are much better forms of governance and amateur systems than this dying institution.

NCAA is killing college sports...

Blake Phillips 3 years, 2 months ago

I love how everyone bashes the NCAA. to me it's absolutely hilarious.

How about this.... let's start giving these young student athletes tens of thousands of dollars for their services (so they can party and buy more weed/alcohol - & let's not kid ourselves here about what young kids spend money on - save me the dumb responses)

Then.... let's limit the only company (NCAA) that keeps universities and student atheletes in check. (that'll really bode well for the students, fans, boosters.... HAHAHA)

And on top of that let's just let guys like Paterno, Pitino have full authority and nobody to force them to walk the straight and narrow.

It's not enought these kids get free education, great perks during and after their college years (coaching, commericals, overseas, top pick for nearby business' because of your celebrity status, sex with practically anyone on camput cause your a "star", free entry to clubs, free liquor, the list goes on and on.

People on this earth are really stupid to think getting rid of NCAA & limiting their rules is a good idea. HAHAHAHAHA.

Marius Rowlanski 3 years, 2 months ago

What you mean the car was illegal? If so, the police with jurisdiction would have been investigating, not KU, not the NCAA. I would think a DUI is far more serious than driving a car that you had permission to drive.

It may or may not be permissible but he didn't break any laws that I know of.

This is a totally separate event than the Adidas scandal which seems to be becoming less and less a story than when it first broke. Like you said, Blake

apples and oranges brutha,

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

I don't think anyone is saying that a DUI does not have far more potential for greater harm than impermissible benefits. But in this particular discussion - regardless of the possible consequences - we are differentiating between lack of impulse control / momentary lapses in judgement, and an on-going willfulness to break the rules.

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

When it comes to "bad choices," there's a difference between an impetuous, reckless decision made in the moment, and a calculated, willful choice done with full awareness of the likely consequences.

DUI's and fights are the former. The air guns and cars are the latter. But unless a booster gave the twins the air gun, it wasn't an impermissible benefit which could cost the team a season of wins.

Facts and logic please.

Chris Weaver 3 years, 2 months ago

I agree with many of you, that regardless of what happened, Billy seemed to handle himself well given the situation. I hope that the conclusion will allow us insight into what was at issue. I really hope that it doesn’t involve ADIDAS, and I hope that Billy can move on and do well in his life and career. It would be good for Head Coach to address the issue now.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

If the Prestons (Billy and his mother) are involved with Adidas and knowingly accepted a car...then I don't care how Billy handled himself given the situation. His situation has hamstrung this team... and now that it may be time to pay the fiddler: He is bailing, leaving KU to hold the bag. So he handled himself well while the jury was out. Now that the jury may be ready to file in and rule... he is LEAVING.

Robert Brock 3 years, 2 months ago

Kansas failed to close the deal with DeAndre Ayton and Plan B was to recruit a total flake instead. Good grief!

Randy Signor 3 years, 2 months ago

Career? What career? A couple of exhibition games?

Bryce Landon 3 years, 2 months ago

Remember when Billy Preston and MU's Michael Porter Jr. were the talk of college basketball at the start of the season? Damn, that seems like forever ago.

Nick Kramer 3 years, 2 months ago

I think with Billy we were in the national championship conversation. Our goal should be Big 12 #14 now and anything we achieve in the tournament is gravy.

John Brazelton 3 years, 2 months ago

LaVarr Ball may be an ego-driven loud mouth, but he has shown high school players a third-way to get to the NBA. If you're good enough and don't want to bother going to college, you can now go to Europe and play professional basketball for a year or two, get paid to play and then enter the NBA draft when eligible. You will now probably see more and more highly ranked high school players sign with a Sports Agent, who will pay for training and insurance, in the case of career-ending injuries, and who will get a big pay day when his recruit is drafted by the NBA. Bill Self will probably have to go back to signing high school players who will stay in college for 4 years and fewer One and Dones in the future.

Tim Orel 3 years, 2 months ago

Players who only want to be pros and not students, at least to some extent - well, they're welcome to go do that. I wouldn't want them at KU. This is likely to lead to a lot of exploitation, but that goes on in many fields where adults can prey on children and gullible parents. I worry for those kids, but at least they won't be KU's problems.

Drew Doerfler 3 years, 2 months ago

i'm just glad this whole thing is over.....and i'm sorry, i just don't consider Preston a jayhawk.....true...we don't know all of the facts, but common sense would dictate that 'something' untoward happened in regards to his car or it wouldn't have taken this long for both ku to investigate it and then the ncaa. something was fishy......he really hurt the team this year with his taking the depth in the post, dealing with this whole process and not knowing what your team will be like...losing a scholarship and probably Coleby because of him. He could have really cost this team, coach, and fans a whole helluva lot if this wouldn't have been uncovered early in the season. so no, i don't feel sorry for him at all.....we all make decisions and then have to live with the consequences........he knew what he was doing.....i guarantee you that KU compliance goes through everything with these kids about what they can and can't goodbye of luck in your future....but i won't ever give you another thought

Rae Bricil 3 years, 2 months ago

"i just don't consider Preston a jayhawk"

guessing he put in a lot more hard work and sweat for the BBALL team than 99.9% of posters here. To discredit his effort and subsequent decision on allegations not fully understood is the height of hubris.

Drew Doerfler 3 years, 2 months ago

the height of hubris? i just stated my own personal feelings and belief.....i'm pretty sure i'm entitled to that...i didn't state that anyone else should or should not consider him a jayhawk....simply stated my opinion of which i'm pretty sure that's all these message boards are

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

Rae, whatever hard work and sweat he put in at Lawrence was probably equal to what he would have put in had he been in Bosnia all along.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Rae, since I wasn't ON the KU basketball team during my tenure at KU... I would HOPE that Preston put in a lot more hard work and sweat for the BBALL team than 99.9% of us here. I can tell you that I spent a lot more hard work and money paying for my own tuition... and going to class, and paid for my own 1983 Cutlass Supreme with my own money from my summer job bussing tables. That is why I consider myself a Jayhawk. I didn't accept a scholarship... make a commitment to the University, and then leave when things didn't go my way.

Clara Westphal 3 years, 2 months ago

I suppose Monday the NCAA will declare him cleared. Oh well.

Kent Richardson 3 years, 2 months ago

Sweet Clara. That would blow this site up.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

The NCAA won't come out and say anything now about Billy Preston specifically. If they did.. and the news was somehow positive, you could say it reflects positively on Billy.. .and then again: You could also say it reflects poorly on Billy, because he quit the team when in reality it could have helped. If no details are ever provided, then everyone will just continue to speculate, and judge Billy as a saint, a sinner or somewhere in between.

David Howell 3 years, 2 months ago

Glad it's OVER. I got tired of seeing him on the bench like he was part of the team, but he really wasn't or he would have played or finally received clearance from the NCAA. What a waste of a scholarship that could have gone to someone who could really have helped the Jayhawks especially another big man ..............

Andy Godwin 3 years, 2 months ago

Wonder if the timing has anything to do with the announcement of Zion Williamson tonight. Guaranteed scholarship for next year.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

I doubt it. Billy Preston wouldn't have been around next year to tie up a scholarship anyway, so it wouldn't impact Zion in the slightest.

Danny Hernandez 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy, we hardly knew you but to me and I'm sure other Jayhawk fans, you'll always be a Jayhawk!

Jeff Coffman 3 years, 2 months ago

Did Zenger as the athletic director do anything during this process?

Blake Phillips 3 years, 2 months ago

no. he's out begging people for money so he can keep his job.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Ah, Jeff... chuckle.. you and I aren't often on the same side of an argument, and I'm not sure if you were being serious with that post. If not, then that was funny! I appreciate the levity...

Craig Jackson 3 years, 2 months ago

What was the Hertz slogan in the ol OJ days..."the superstar in rent-a-car!".

David Robinett 3 years, 2 months ago

At least Silvio can get Billy's practice minutes now.

Brian Skelly 3 years, 2 months ago

 The only "favor" Billy end up doing for us was not playing in a game.   It's pretty apparent he wasn't going to become eligible.   You can blame the NCAA's likely archaic rules if you'd like,  but it's still their rules.   And everyone who plays hoops at the highest level is made well aware of these rules well before they get to a campus.   So him pleading ignorance on this car issue is tough to take at face value.

 The NCAA isn't going to need to tweak it's eligibility rules, it's going to have to blow them up.   It sounds like theres at least some talks about changing things .    We'll see.   The reality is NCAA basketball is dinosaur in the global world of basketball now and it shows.   We are literally the ONLY country in the world with this model for amateur athletics.    It's magnificently backwards.   The folks in charge arent going to give up their power willingly.

  If Billy Preston can go play in Europe and still get drafted in the 1st Round of the NBA Draft,  more and more guys will go do this.   Im not sure it'll be a flood,  but it's also the biggest argument to get rid of one and done.   If guys wanna go pro whenever the hell they want, let them.   Statistically its what,  less than 3% of the players who play in college?    Quit tying athletic futures to academics -- no one else around the world does.    And in a global game like basketball, it puts the NCAA in a place where it has to grow.

Layne Pierce 3 years, 2 months ago

My only complaint, is why, why why does it take the NCAA so damn long to make a decision? It took KU a long time to prepare, and maybe the defense was really good, and the NCAA was working hard to find away around it, so they could declare Billy ineligible, and if possible put KU on probation.

Fact is, Billy blew it, he knows it, his mom knows it, but he never quit practicing, and he kept rooting for his teammates. Many a player simply leaves the team immediately, so why didn't he do that?

These are great mysteries for all this board's geniuses to ponder.


Jerry Walker 3 years, 2 months ago

Common sense tells you that Preston was not in compliance. Legal ownership of the car within NCAA guidelines would have been easy to prove. If he had legitimate concerns about the car -- the KU compliance staff and Coach Self would have provided the proper guidance in the first place.

And no, he doesn't fall in the category of "once a Jayhawk - always a Jayhawk".

Adrian Meneses 3 years, 2 months ago

Ryan & Blake your comments are spot on with not disrespecting anyone but bringing realistic perception to the surface in this situation! Unfortunate for the set back at this stop(ie Time), but the RCJH Train is loaded with all coal we need to continue forward and beyon..yon..yond!

Kent Richardson 3 years, 2 months ago

Well my peeps, it's apparent we were in the dark during this whole process. But it is a lot more apparent you were thinking the whole time that the longer this went on the less satisfying the result would be.

Matt Tait seems to say that information after the fact may be limited as the participating parties will want it to all go away as quietly as possibly. Except for the NCAA which may want to hammer us and keep it in the fire as long as possible. Then we may find something out but I hope it doesn't come to that.

I read other fan driven sites and this one, by far, is the most thought provoking and fun. BY FAR!!

Keep up the good work and thank you.

Bob Bailey 3 years, 2 months ago


  1. Player got a car between Italy and start of BB practice 2017.

  2. Driver was texting his phone when he damaged the car.

Both were the height of stupidity if a young man wanted the benefit of Self's coaching. Except in this case, he got at least 6 months of his training. How can any one question that? Just forget it and try to prevent a recurrence!

Michael Sillman 3 years, 2 months ago

It sounds like KU was lucky that Preston was a bad driver. Otherwise we might have been looking at forfeiting an entire season. Thank God for de Sousa.

Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 2 months ago

I have a hard time believing that he (and his mother) would have allowed him to stay around this long if there was a chance that he would have been declared "guilty" of any wrongdoing that would have affected the program. For him to travel, sit on the bench, etc. with the knowledge of the truth, if it was an infraction of any sort, that could have cost KU in any way, would have been a serious and deliberate display of horrible judgment and character. His mother's involvement also seems to suggest that there shouldn't be an incriminating outcome by the NCAA. This makes the comments by Self interesting, such as that it was a KU imposed suspension and that it was being done so that there wouldn't be any exposure for the program should there be an incriminating ruling by the NCAA following their review of the incident. Self has to protect the integrity of his program as does the University. But, I feel like the mother's involvement soured the NCAA from more quickly issuing their findings and ultimate decision. He wasn't going to be back at KU after this season anyway, so for the income that he will see on the Bosnian team, I don't see anything other than the family's pride in pulling him off of the bench at KU rather than letting this matter play itself out. There would have to be a resolution within a relatively sooner than later manner since there are only less than eight weeks left in the regular season. I hope he doesn't get injured and kills it in the NBA combines!

** (and the band had probably been looking forward to playing "Will it go Round in Circles" and "Nothing from Nothing"!)

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

I don't know, Martin. Self maintained that he was expecting resolution on this matter from the NCAA... "soon". I have to belief Self.. he said it almost daily for 3 1/2 weeks. (that was sarcasm, folks)... I believe we will get the full story "soon"...

Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 2 months ago

And, he should have been expecting resolution. Now, there will most likely be no disclosure of the NCAA's findings, unless it is to implicate someone who should have not been involved in the whole matter. If KU's lack of credible wrongdoing evidence was factual, then why would the NCAA continue to investigate other than to do a deep dive to try to dig up dirt against KU and/or Billy. As I have said previously, the NCAA could be seen as impeding Billy's chances of presenting his best resume to the NBA by stretching out the investigation and therefore affecting his "stock" without actual college success stats. I'm not suggesting that the NCAA be taken to court over this possibility. But, if he was innocent of any chargeable infraction, and he was prohibited from playing for this extended timeframe, they could be accountable for his future earnings potential. But, that's only hypothetical.

Dale Rogers 3 years, 2 months ago

To all those who assume he's dirty, think about this. KU spent six weeks investigating the situation. Had they found dirt, do you really think they would have forwarded everything to the NCAA? Of course not. Billy would have been gone at that point. End of story.

But they did send it to the NCAA, which makes me believe KU found nothing bad. The kid planned to be a one and done. But his development process wasn't happening. Sure, he made gains through practice, but as many others have discovered, that's not the same as playing the games. So he gives up on the NCAA after almost a month waiting on the NCAA and decides to get that development overseas.

The NCAA likely doesn't trust any school and I can understand that. So in my mind they took the investigation from KU as a starting point and then went out and started confirming what KU had already done. The NCAA procedures need a major overhaul and simplification. Soon.

I can't blame him at all. I hope Billy understands he is a Jayhawk and he is always welcome back. He can never play a game for the Jayhawks, but just like other past players, he is welcome to come back.

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

"Had they found dirt, do you really think they would have forwarded everything to the NCAA? Of course not. Billy would have been gone at that point. End of story."

I'm not sure. How dirty was the dirt? Maybe it just smelled like dirt. Maybe it seemed more like dust. Perhaps KU needed validation or confirmation of impropriety before they needlessly removed their best post backup or star "4" from the team.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 2 months ago

"maybe it seemed more like dust"...LOL!!! I loved that RJ. good one! I think you are right. KU probably did as much as they could to tidy up this pile of you know what, drug out their part of the investigation to equal a typical penalty for this dollar amount or type of impermissible benefit, which I think they estimated to be just up to the conference opener, delivered it to the ncaa a week or two prior...and hoped for the best. when I read an article that the two auburn players, I think, were declared ineligible because their families got money in the 9-14K range, I figured we were in trouble, given this car is supposedly in the 25K range.

Jerry Walker 3 years, 2 months ago

I'm beginning to wonder if the Tan Man had anything to do with this.

Drew Doerfler 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy Preston yet another player caught up in the FBI/DOJ NCAA scandal. Paper trail leading back to adidas was likely too much for Kansas to risk considering the limited reward. — Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) January 20, 2018 just something i saw on sense

Bill Kackley 3 years, 2 months ago

I don't care what Billy did, I don't care about his punishment. What I do care about is the corrupt, power wielding of the NCAA. If he did something that should be punished, then they should have come out and announced the punishment and not leave the kid, his mother and the University in limbo. As far as his mother negotiating with pro clubs are you saying, after all this, you would not have done the same thing. Too many of you just want to place blame and try to allege as fact, your opinions. I feel that it is way past time for the Power 5 conferences to dump the NCAA and establish their own governing body. That would kill the NCAA as TV money would dry up and they would become insignificant just like the NIT did several years ago. I can remember when the NIT tournament was just as big as the NCAA tournament. I don't see how the University could be hurt by this if none of the coaching staff was involved as Billy never played a game for KU.

Rae Bricil 3 years, 2 months ago

agreed and great post. NCAA has served its purpose and should go away. In this day and age there are more efficient and adequate form of governance that should be employed.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

..."there are more efficient and adequate form of governance that should be employed"..... Such as? Please shed light...

Joe Ross 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy Preston

"Will it go round in circles? Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky?"

"I've got a story ain't got no moral. Let the bad guy win every once in a while."

"I've got a dance, ain't got no steps. Gonna let the music move me around."

"Will it go round in circles", indeed...

Michael Hansen 3 years, 2 months ago

The real issue here is the NCAA’s phony “amateurism” perpetuating the current double standard that allows a well off family to give their child athlete what ever they want while penalizing poorer families and their child athletes if they receive similar benefits. The NCAA wants to make it seem like all student athletes are being treated equally when they are inherently unequal. These situations will continue as long as this double standard exists. We have seen a number of kids from less well off families penalized but at least there was a resolution. The bad guy here is NCAA not Billy or his mother. The NCAA will crush and burn some day from their greed and abuse of these players.

Adrian Meneses 3 years, 2 months ago

Ok Drew don’t leave us in suspense....where’s the link &/or what did it say?!?

Titus Canby 3 years, 2 months ago

We need to remember that Billy's just an 18 (maybe 19) year old kid. The blame here resides with:

Whoever "gave" him that car... if that's the case.

The NBA, who won't accept kids under whatever age, forcing them to go to college, when they have absolutely no intention of being students. If they don't go to college, they have to play in f** Bosnia.

Can you imagine? Bosnia!

Does anyone know the details of his pro contract? I can't imagine he's making enough to make up for free food at KU, free lodging at KU, free workout gear at KU, a free education at KU, and not having to live in f** Bosnia.

Billy, I don't know you at all. But you deserve better.

Dale Kroening 3 years, 2 months ago

Disappointed in this result , but at least its over . I wonder if the announcement today has anything to do with Williamson's announcement tonight . This does open up another scholarship for Zion . We will know soon enough....

Adrian Meneses 3 years, 2 months ago

Just confirming that Drew’s copy/paste of Jonathan Givony’s Twitter post this morning has no facts behind those implications at this time....& with that being said and scrolling thru the comments asking for more info from Jonathan with no response has most calling Fake News so don’t waste ur time searching folks. I know your a “ glass is half empty KU fan” Drew but please don’t repost some else’s post if there is nothing to back it up, thanks & much appreciated

Drew Doerfler 3 years, 2 months ago

yeah, you would be a 'fake news' guy........and i was just posting something i saw that i thought was interesting from someone that probably knows a lot more about any of this than any of us posters on ku message boards.....and i'm not a half empty fan...i'm a realist.....and if u don't like my post .... don't read it

Titus Canby 3 years, 2 months ago

Now let's move on, and beat the living poop out of Baylor.

James Mathews 3 years, 2 months ago

Only victim here is KU. Time invested in scholarship etc...So sad that a young man with a lot off pressures chose and chose poorly. Maybe his family was influential in regards to his indiscretions and I suppose it’s a mute point. His case should be a example to all future recruits and families. I firmly believe College is a better step in developing a player then going to Europe, but the latter is quick cash I don’t believe in belittling so I wish him luck.

Steve Johnson 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy Who? Don't know and don't care. Never wore a uniform for this team. Lets hope next years recruits are vetted and have learned form this. Lets hope the coaches have learned from this. Now lets focus on Baylor today and possibly winning the Big 12, NCAA Tournament and developing the current talent we have into better basketball players and better people. Rock Chalk, in case anyone forgot, we are leading the Big 12 with a team that is getting better by the day.

Titus Canby 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy got screwed. This system is broken. And paying college players isn't the solution. I just feel that if you have no intention of getting an education, you shouldn't be going to school. In Billy's case, he should be playing basketball - working at his trade. But not in freaking Bosnia. C'mon NBA, get rid of your "no 18 year olds" policy. (Like the NBA is reading this post.)

Tony Bandle 3 years, 2 months ago

Random Thoughts:

1] KU is in the Top Ten and moving higher......without Billy Preston.

2] KU is 15-3 after this weekend.....without Billy Preston.

3] KU is alone in first place of the Big 12....without Billy Preston.

4] Apparently the team is moving on...without Billy Preston.

5] Maybe we should all follow suit and cheer on the Jayhawks...without Billy Preston.

6] The responses on this site range from nailing him to the cross to elevating him to sainthood. I choose just to move on.......without Billy Preston.

Daniel Parker 3 years, 2 months ago

Maybe it is all a bizarre great coincidence.....Zion Williamson declares today, and if I recall, KU doesn't atually have a scholarship to offer him???...they do now...Although he is rumored to stay close to home (Clemson the favorite), he does have a relationship with Dotson.

One can dream....right...

Brian Skelly 3 years, 2 months ago

Letting kids go pro early and often would help a lot of this. If kids dont want to go to college, and just want to play professionally (wherever that may be) why inhibit that? The NBA got smarter about the NBA Combine and pre-draft camps. If your NOT invited to it as an underclassmen, it right off the bat tells you what they really think of you. Once that signal is out there -- the odds of you getting drafted -- and public, it's a HUGE service to all parties involved. I'd call that progress. Letting kids go pro whenever they want is the next step. To me, the NCAA and the NBA's inability to view themselves as partners with this is hugely problematic -- for the NCAA well more than the NBA. With the G-League more viable, "Draft and Stash" becoming more and more prominent (reducing the number of American kids drafted slightly) , and kids just going to play in Europe (and make six figure incomes on the low end, something most degree seekers wont get to ever, or will after years of the grind of work -- not to mention paying off student loan debt) the NCAA isn't the only game in town anymore. For most it's still probably the best option. A small percentage of basketball players will play professionally.

The NCAA needs a reboot in the worst way.

Edward Katz 3 years, 2 months ago

I just wanted to see him play. I'm really disappointed about how this played out no matter who is to blame. It's supposed to be entertainment and we've been denied seeing a talent perform.

Ryan Zimmerman 3 years, 2 months ago

What I still don't understand is Self's stance throughout all this. He kept using the word "optimistic" when talking about Billy. "No news yet, but we're optimistic it will be resolved soon" for example.

So many other ways to phrase that instead rather than the way it was. If it was truly a problem all along, it should have been more "At this point we don't have any information and are waiting on his eligibility" or "We know as much as you guys do" or something.

The whole optimistic stance and quotes to me sounded like it was no big deal and it was going to be resolved any moment. Billy's decision to leave and the delay in the actual decision seems to prove otherwise.

Mike Barnhart 3 years, 2 months ago

What a waste of time and energy. When a guy wrecks a car, the HC should ask him, “Where’d the car come from?” If the answer is I don’t know, the proper response is, “Until YOU can tell me where the car came from, you won’t be dressing for games or traveling with the team.” Not, “We’ll investigate, meet with the press several times, appeal to the NCAA, cross our fingers and hope for the best.”

RJ King 3 years, 2 months ago

I agree with your overall Big Picture thinking, and most of your statements. You've been such an advocate sticking to what is known, and not speculating.

But in this comment you've fallen into the trap. We don't have any idea of the conversation between BP and BS, although your last sentence is entirely plausible.

Drew Doerfler 3 years, 2 months ago

on a positive, both oklahoma and texas tech were both's like the rest of the big 12 WANTS KU to win another championship! lol

Dee Shaw 3 years, 2 months ago

Mike Hart is a complete stud. I want to be him when I grow up.

Mike Hart 3 years, 2 months ago

Dee, thanks for the compliment! First step for you: Grow up... then come see me. ;)

Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 2 months ago

Billy already appears on the Bosnian roster! If he's going to attend the NBA combine and declare for the draft, he won't have but about four months to spend as a pro playing in front of 3000 people, if the stands are full in his home venue. I'm curious about the car he'll be driving in Europe. I bet there are a lot of VWs and Yugos available. His mother must be so proud.

KD Krase 3 years, 2 months ago

Well, at least there was a decision made, although, not the one hoped for. It seemed suspicious that no news was coming out lately. Another "potential" talent in a big time recruit wasted. Maybe, they should make sure that we get at least one or two bigs that are going to stay around for more than one year to make a base for future teams.

Kent Richardson 3 years, 2 months ago

If KSU wins today they will be as in the race as everyone else.


Short hop across the Adriatic Sea to Italy. Not sure if that has any connotations or is just coincidence but I think our team was scouted there. Marco Polo was an early star guard for the Ottomans before getting traded to the Khans of the Far Eastern Conference for a few cases of silk worms. He retired there I think or was assassinated not sure as it was before free agency.

Spent some time over there many, many moons ago (before climate change). Ethnic cleansing just like 2000 years ago. Serbs and Croats and Bosnians I think. Don't know if it gets rowdy in the stands. Might have been called Yugoslavia at the time. Much like Kansas/Missouri during the War Between the States which is also still going on isn't it.

More sedate drivers than Kansans as speed limit is 37 mph up to 50 on highways try that on I 70.. Dacia Sandero or Skoda Superb (which looks roomier). VW Polo if you are on a budget. Probably available in diesel also.

• The speed limit on most roads is 37 mph and increases to 50 mph on highways. • It is mandatory for drivers and passengers to wear seat belts.

• Talking on your mobile phone while driving is strictly forbidden.

• The maximum blood alcohol level is 0.03%.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 2 months ago

I wouldn't blame Billy or his mama or the NCAA. This is on Bill Self. He has gotten into a bad habit of recruiting one-and-dones with eligibility issues that get dragged out and hurt the team (i.e., Cliff Alexander, Cheik Diallo, and now Billy Preston). Not one of the OADs has helped us get to a Final Four or win a national title - not one. In the Self era, our Final Four appearances (and national title) came without any OADs in the lineup; they came with guys who devoted three or four years of their lives to playing college ball, paid the price, and got the glory - not from guys who came here because they had to spend one year in college before going to the Association.

Bill Lamson 3 years, 2 months ago

There are no facts to suggest the NCAA deserves any blame in this, and plenty to suggest Self and Preston deserve it. I think Self is a great man and a great coach, but he and his staff obviously screwed up and didn't monitor Preston closely enough to know he was driving a car he shouldn't have been. And they should have been all over him from the day he accepted the scholarship telling him not to take inappropriate gifts. How freakin hard is it to keep tabs on a dozen kids and what they are driving? Assign some volunteer grad assistant to check up on them, make them register and clear their cars at the beginning of the year and then conduct periodic follow up's not rocket science. And don't give me that 'he's just a kid' pathetic excuse...he's a nice kid and I hope he does well, but he put himself in this situation and I don't believe for one second he didn't know that he shouldn't have been driving that car. And now because he chose to break the rules and Self didn't do a good enough job of monitoring it, we lost a scholarship for a year and screwed up this year's team. And one last thing...the fact that it took our compliance staff 6 weeks or more to conduct their 'investigation' is ridiculous. This isn't's a car!! As a former cop I probably could have figured out who owned it in less than a day. The other 5 weeks and 6 days were spent doing something else...not trying to figure out who owned it.

Kenny Nall 3 years, 2 months ago

Ineligibility issues.. almost as assured as Big 12 titles! Good luck to Preston and hopefully both parties learn from the situation.

Severeno Woods 3 years, 2 months ago

Very disappointed in Billy Preston situation, but I understand his overall goal. The NCAA is a complete joke and screw this young man over. I wish his nothing but success at the next level.

Kit Duncan 3 years, 2 months ago

It’s not on the NCAA. It’s not on KU. It’s on Billy Preston. There are 11 other student athletes on the team who have managed to stay out of trouble.

Lawrence McGlinn 3 years, 2 months ago

I can't believe no one has seen that this is protecting someone big, most likely a KU booster who was providing a car for Billy. It could have been an agent, but this move sweeps all the details under the rug. Don't expect anything more here. Maybe in a loose moment in a few years Billy will reveal something, but this move to the Balkans clears up lots of messy details.

Barry Weiss 3 years, 2 months ago

I read it was a former KU basketball player, not sure what he does for a living, or if that is even true.

Bryce Landon 3 years, 2 months ago

Since Billy didn't play in any games that count, we don't have to vacate any games, so that's a plus for us.

Brad Watson 3 years, 2 months ago

Forget about it...we will do just fine without him....I wish him well.

Rob Byrd 3 years, 2 months ago

Earlier info stated that Preston registered the car when he arrived on campus, so if that is true, it would appear that Billy and his mom must have thought everything to be above board, so isn't this squarely on the compliance office?

Armen Kurdian 3 years, 2 months ago

If there were any real question as to his eligibility, I'll be KU would have dropped him before they handed the info over to the NCAA if it were blatant.

Laird Dennis 3 years, 2 months ago

You can only wonder when are the schools going wake up and clean up the bureaucratic mess that is the NCAA? Fire everyone and start the hiring process by making all of them reapply for their positions.

Chad Smith 3 years, 2 months ago

Honestly, glad this is finally over. It stinks, but now us and the team can both move on. Silvio is getting his feet wet and will improve as the season goes on, same with lightfoot. We can have a decent 3 man frontcourt out there now by the time march rolls around. Udoka is playing pretty good so far this season. Just needs some support. a 14th consecutive Big 12 title is still very much within in our grasp. ROCK CHALK. #LOOKFORWARD

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