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Sunday, March 13, 2016

Jayhawks awarded the top overall seed in NCAA Tournament

KU opens vs. Austin Peay, in Des Moines

Kansas head coach Bill Self reacts after being doused with confetti by his players as the Jayhawks celebrate following their 81-71 win over West Virginia, Saturday, March 12, 2016 at Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

Kansas head coach Bill Self reacts after being doused with confetti by his players as the Jayhawks celebrate following their 81-71 win over West Virginia, Saturday, March 12, 2016 at Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

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All the speculation and number-crunching leading up to Selection Sunday proved correct. The Kansas Jayhawks (30-4), regular-season and postseason champions of the Big 12, officially received the No. 1 overall seed in the 2016 NCAA Tournament.

KU, which has won 14 straight games entering the Big Dance, landed the No. 1 seed in the South region. Bill Self’s team will open its run in Des Moines, Iowa.

The Jayhawks, who went 6-1 in neutral floor games and 7-3 in road games this season, will face No. 16 seed Austin Peay on Thursday.

No. 8 seed Colorado and No. 9 seed Connecticut are the other two teams in KU’s pod. As long as Kansas doesn’t become the first No. 1 seed in tourney history to lose to a 16 seed, KU will face the winner of Colorado-UConn on Saturday with a trip to the Sweet 16 on the line.

Each of the past two seasons, the Jayhawks failed to advance past the round of 32, losing to Stanford in 2014 and Wichita State a year ago.

North Carolina, Virginia and Oregon received the other No. 1 seeds in the bracket.

Here are the rest of the matchups in the South region, which culminates with Sweet 16 and regional finals in Louisville, Kentucky:

No. 5 Maryland vs. No. 12 South Dakota State

No. 4 Cal vs. No. 13 Hawaii

No. 6 Arizona vs. No 11 Vanderbilt OR Wichita State

No. 3 Miami (FL) vs. No. 14 Buffalo

No. 7 Iowa vs. No. 10 Temple

No. 2 Villanova vs. No. 15 UNC-Asheville

— Check back in later at KUsports.com for more on KU’s upcoming NCAA Tournament journey.

Comments

Kay Jensen 3 years ago

Yikes, tough bracket. UConn playing so well right now.

Janet Olin 3 years ago

Yikes, no kidding. UConn and Xavier in the bracket, along with other really tough teams? I know all the teams are good this time of year, but seems KU gets in with ridiculous opponents in the 2nd game and going forward in the earlier part of the tourney. Gotta bring it.

KJ Quartermaine 3 years ago

Try again Janet, Xavier is not in the South bracket

KJ Quartermaine 3 years ago

If not for a miracle 62-footer at the buzzer, UConn would have been eliminated in the quarterfinals of their tourney

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

Your point? UConn won the game and AAC.

KJ Quartermaine 3 years ago

My point is, they're not as hot as everybody is suggesting. I will repeat, had a miracle 62-footer not gone down, UConn would likely not have even made the tourney. Is that sufficient for you, or do I need to further spell it out for you? I bet you cannot name one UConn player without googling.

A miracle 62-footer goes down and suddenly UConn is hot?

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

Can you name any current UConn players without Googling them?

Xanthe Sherman Swan 3 years ago

I don't think the committee has ever done us any favors. We have to rely on ourselves and get the job done. Love my 'Hawks.

KJ Quartermaine 3 years ago

I'm fine with the draw. Didn't want UK, Duke, or Indiana in our region on the 4-line, and didn't want Michigan State on the 2-line in our region

Al Martin 3 years ago

Didn't want Oklahoma or West Virginia, either. The draw is fine.

Dirk Medema 3 years ago

They wouldn't do that to conference foes. Farther down, yes, as they did for the mid-range PAC12 in ours and Big12 elsewhere. They just don't do it for top seeds.

F Steven Blazer 3 years ago

Why would they put the overall #1 seed in a different region? Feel bad for the Jayhawk faithful in Chicago who were sure they would see them play in the regional final.

Vic Janeway 3 years ago

because, Des Moines and Louisville are closest to KU fans. The yellow brick road (highway) is a straight shot east.

Al Martin 3 years ago

Louisville and Chicago are within 3 miles distance from Lawrence, driving wise, according to Google maps, anyway. If flying, Chicago is considerably quicker than Louisville.

However, Louisville is much closer to Charlottesville than Chicago. Putting Virginia in the South would have been a bigger advantage for them than putting us in the Midwest. Given the four #1s, this worked out as well as it could for us.

Although if I were going, I'd rather spend a weekend in Chicago :-).

Daniel Kennamore 3 years ago

Why are we in the South? And our 2 seed was a 1 seed as of yesterday...man the committee hates us.

KJ Quartermaine 3 years ago

Give it a rest. Michigan State had a better argument than Nova of getting a 1-seed. The way you're crying about Nova being in our region as the No. 2 seed, I can only imagine how you would have been acting if it was Michigan State instead

Daniel Kennamore 3 years ago

Neither should have been in our region. Why does Michigan State get their best region as a two seed?

We should have been in the Midwest with Oklahoma as our 2.

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

That's not how it works. Louisville is closer to Lawrence than Chicago, this isn't a debatable opinion, it is a fact. Since KU is the #1 overall seed, they play in the sites closest to Lawrence this year which are Des Moines and Louisville.

You also cannot put conference teams that in on one of the top 4 seed lines into the same region. If you look at the bracket, you'll notice that top 4 seeds in each region are all from different conferences. In the South, KU (B12), Villanova (Big East), Miami (ACC), Maryland (B10). In the East, UNC (ACC), Xavier (Big East), WVU (B12), and Kentucky (SEC). In the MidWest, Virginia (ACC), Michigan St. (B10), Utah (PAC12), and Iowa St. (B12). And out West, Oregon (PAC12), Oklahoma (B12), Texas A&M (SEC), and Duke (ACC). The top 4 seeds in each region are from different conferences.

Daniel Kennamore 3 years ago

Then why did every single projected bracket have us in the Mid-West? Seriously, go look:

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

Probably because people assumed Chicago was closer to Lawrence than Louisville was.

Daniel Kennamore 3 years ago

Yup...people who do this for a living were all just wrong. Not just some of them...every single one of them.

KJ Quartermaine 3 years ago

Nope, didn't want Okie as a 2-seed in our region. Wouldn't want to see them before the Final Four

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

Villanova hasn't made it past the 1st weekend of the NCAA tournament since they reached the Final Four in 2009.

Daniel Kennamore 3 years ago

And we haven't in the last two seasons either. We're talking about this season...not past seasons.

Waylon Cook 3 years ago

Ku is goin to be well represented regadless of where we play. I understand the alum base in chicago but we will be fine! Heck louisville might be closer to home for us by a couple miles. Bracket is great lets roll!

Joe Ross 3 years ago

Joe Castiglione, AD at Oklahoma, leader of the Selection Committee.

OU gets a very favorable draw in the tournament.

As teams are being discussed by the Selection Committee, committee members who belong to the school being discussed are supposed to leave the room. But you decide. Kansas has a much tougher draw as a 1 seed than OU as a 2. The West Regional is clearly the weakest of the four.

Oh. And the Selection Committee needs a geography lesson. Kansas in the SOUTH region as a number 1 seed, and Virginia in the MIDWEST?

KJ Quartermaine 3 years ago

People claim every year X team has the easiest draw or is in the easiest bracket. It never works out that way. One thing I do know, is that the East is clearly the most loaded. I remember in '08, KU fans were so worried about the prospect of facing Wiscy in the Elite 8. Well, this guy named Steph Curry and his squad Davidson throttled Wiscy

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

I take it you're not aware of placement procedures for teams are you Joe. You take each of the top 4 seeds and go through them 1-16 and place them in the region closest to home if possible. Since KU is the overall #1 seed, they go to the sites closest to Lawrence. If you go to Google Maps, Louisville is literally 5 miles closer to Lawrence than Chicago is. That meant that KU was going to Louisville instead of Chicago. Would you be complaining about KU being in the South if the South regional were in Houston, San Antonio, or Austin this year instead of Louisville?

Joe Ross 3 years ago

I take it that youre not aware that keeping teams close to home is not an absolute rule and that, while the committee tries to honor that goal, it allows itself to override it in light of other considerations. The "placement procedure" that youre attempting to describe is not a rule set it stone (e.g., that a #1 seed MUST play to the site that is closest to home in all situations.) Did you know that? Im not trying to be salty, but if youre gonna come at me like youre educating me then have your ducks in a row and in order. And for what its worth, I have no problem admitting I dont know something if someone sheds light on my ignorance. But youve missed the mark this time on a technicality.

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

Actually it is. http://www.ncaa.com/content/di-principles-and-procedures-selection/

Read pages 4 and 5 as it explains how teams are sent where they are sent. Quick summary. They go through each of the top 4 seed lines. On each seed line, they go according the true ranking (1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16) and they place them to the closest site possible. Since Louisville is 5 miles closer that Chicago, KU goes to Louisville. UNC is the #2 overall seed, they get sent to Philadelphia, UVA is the #3 overall seed, they go to Chicago because Chicago is the 2nd closest site to UVA, and Oregon is sent to Anaheim. The repeat this process the 2, 3, and 4 seeds. The first exception is that top 4 seeds in a all have to be from different conferences with the highest seed getting top consideration for placement. Next, they try to avoid regular season rematches as much as possible.

Joe Ross 3 years ago

Actually youre still wrong.

A straight-line distance calculator shows that Lawrence, KS and Chicago, IL are 448 miles apart, whereas Lawrence, KS and Louisville, KY are 515 miles apart. Thats a difference of 67 miles. If you mapquest from official campus address to the United Center and to KC Yum Arena in Louisville, it is 3.3 miles closer to Louisville.

The rule states:

Teams will remain in or as close to their areas of natural interest AS POSSIBLE. A team moved out of its natural area will be placed in the next closest region to the extent possible. If two teams from the same natural region are in contention for the same bracket position, the team ranked higher in the seed list shall remain in its natural region.

Now one could either average the distances and Chicago would still come out closer, or you can look at the rule and exhaust all possible meanings of the words "as close AS POSSIBLE". The closest distance possible is 448 straight line miles between Lawrence and Chicago. If you want to quibble over the definition of distance, show me in the rule where it is defined one way or the other. GEOGRAPHICALLY speaking (you know, since we're using geographical terms like "south" and "midwest"), Lawrence is in fact closer to Chicago.

Outside of this specification, page 5 does not address the placement of number 1 seeds.

Furthermore, when one considers the term "...area of natural interest", that could for many historical reasons, recent and longer ago, be construed to mean Chicago. In any event, "area of natural interest" is a broader term which most would perhaps feel refers to geographical distance (as opposed to highway miles).

Finally, if you surveyed Kansas fans, coaches, and players intent on discovering where their "natural interest" is defined, very few would say Louisville. Considering all of the above ON TOP OF the awkward nature of having a south team being number 1 in the midwest and a midwest team being number one in the south, Chicago would certainly have been more qualified by any number of perspectives as the natural place for Kansas to have been placed.

ESPN agrees, by the way. And so does Bill Self.

https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

You are wrong because the natural area of interest for KU would be within the B12 footprint, not B10 or ACC/SEC footprint. KC, OKC, Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio along with former B12 areas of Omaha and St. Louis are the cities that lie within KU's natural area of interest that regularly host regionals. Neither Chicago nor Louisville are within KU's natural area of interest. Because most people tend to drive to these events that don't live in the city already, driving distance between cities is what makes the common sense distance to use which Louisville is closer.

Do you want to know why distance is the top consideration for placing 1 seeds. It's because none of the other issues that pop up when placing 2, 3, and 4 seeds happen with 1 seeds. The one seeds get highest priority when placing teams. Since there isn't a regional with the B12 footprint this year.

ESPN doesn't give 2 craps about KU being misplaced, they only care that a #1 ACC team is actually going to have play games outside of the ACC footprint and they don't like that. The ACC bias ESPN has is ridiculous.

Joe Ross 3 years ago

ESPN led a whole segment showing how Kansas got hosed and you interpret that to mean they dont care? LOL. Fuzzy math. Oh and I suppose Bill Self doesnt give 2 craps either? Funny that he happened to mention it in his press conference that Lawrence was closer to Chicago than Louisville. You keep saying Im wrong but you remind me of that lawyer in My Cousin Vinny who made elaborate overtures to suggest that Ms. Vito was not a qualified car mechanic, only to be proven otherwise.

Lawrence Kansas is much closer to Chicago. By miles...literally. You mentioned a bunch of cities that as you say "lie within the Big 12 footprint". Here's news. Louisville doesnt. So if youre going to say Chicago doesnt either by virtue of its location, then both cities are in the same boat on that score. Except..."oops"...Lawrence is actually closer geographically to Chicago.

It's a fact.

Every community college in America has an area of interest larger than 3.3 miles. lol. At the end of the day, Chicago is much more in line with Kansas' area of interest...geographically speaking.

Joe Ross 3 years ago

...leastwise, the hair-splitting, parsing of the meaning of distance, and ambiguity by virtue of the loose definition by the NCAA makes these considerations sufficiently esoteric as to NOT have warranted your ilk toward my comment. If 3.3 miles is enough to stand you up on a soapbox as you cast your unapproving glare in my direction, then youve got bigger problems than my complaints. I take it youre aware of THAT! (Im trying to remain David Banner, here...)

Dirk Medema 3 years ago

Come on Joe, 5 miles out of 550 is almost 1%. That's hardly a technicality. Accept your schooling and be glad the nun didn't bust your knuckles.

{sarcasm off}

Joe Ross 3 years ago

lol Dirk. Im sure Ive done something to deserve it!

Bruce Bertsch 3 years ago

KU is in the South because Louisville is closer to Lawrence than Chicago.

Daniel Kennamore 3 years ago

By 3 miles.

But anyone who isn't clueless would know that Chicago would be our best site...both in terms of fanbase and ease of travel.

Vic Janeway 3 years ago

By highway its a straight shot to Louietoons.

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

Doesn't matter, Louisville is closer to Lawrence.

Joe Ross 3 years ago

Its not a hard and fast rule (distance) and youre not understanding that...

Aaron Paisley 3 years ago

See my link above. It actually is the top consideration for top 4 teams in each regions.

Joe Ross 3 years ago

See my explanation following it.

Joe Ross 3 years ago

Any team may be sent to any region and any pod, although the tournament does try to keep teams, especially the top-seeded teams, closer to home. But for the sake of four miles, Kansas was designated a "South" team, and Virginia a "Midwest" team.

Keeping teams close to home is something with the committee tries to ensure, but can override for other considerations.

Dirk Medema 3 years ago

You mean like ease of travel or fan bases? You really expect us to imagine the committee can do more than use google maps?

Mark Soeken 3 years ago

Really thought KU would be Midwest,but the committee has spoken. OU definitely has the easier road. I still like our chances if the team can make it to the Elite 8! Let's make it to Houston, then all the conversations will be muted. Let's prove we are the overall #1 and kick some butt! RockChalk!

Daniel Kennamore 3 years ago

Everyone thought they would be. I didn't see a single projected bracket with us in the South.

David McGee 3 years ago

I think Kansas will do fine right up until they encounter a team with a superior sized front line. This is an outside-in team but Self is very stubborn about playing inside-out, personnel be damned... though I do think he has loosened up a bit in this regard, he has not and will not FULLY embrace this team's greatest strength, which is its ability to hit from outside with nearly anyone and using that threat to open up the lane. It's similar to using the pass to set up the run in football.

Instead, we see drives and ill-advised finger-rolls, drives and kick-outs, or high-low passes that get turned over. He thinks of the deep ball as fool's gold, but that is not the case with this year's team. Drives are nice but it is less risky to pass on the perimeter (speaking of which, any pass in the air longer than 0.1 seconds should have been passed harder) to see if the inside opens up, and if not then do a pick-and-roll and shoot a 3. Not using our greatest strength will cause problems in some game where he either adjusts too late to a superior sized team or fails to adjust at all ala last year's UK game. Self is obviously great, and this has been a fantastic season but he is too stubborn to use the talent he has in the most optimal way.

All that being said the biggest threat I see until the Final Four is Cal. I think we'll get to Houston if we can get past them. I just hope we don't face any huge front lines if/when we get there.

Michelle Carter 3 years ago

Hey, fellow Jayhawk fans! Decided to comply with Big Brother and create a Facebook page so I can join the conversation, glad to finally be here! With that being said, what the total eff??!!! How does the No. 1 overall seed end up outside of it's own geographical region? What's with the yearly hate from the Selection Committee?

Rich Hageman 3 years ago

Why do you guys continue to bash Coach Self !! I see nothing wrong with the results so far !!! I don't care what region they put us in, we are going to the Final Four !!

David McGee 3 years ago

If you're talking to me, my comment is just trying to be realistic about the road ahead and the threats we face in the tourney. I don't think calling Self stubborn is bashing, it's pretty widely known that he is. He's also the best there is and there's no other coach I'd rather have right now, I just wish he'd adjust to his personnel more than he does.

Dirk Medema 3 years ago

You mean like having his 4 initiate the O from the top of the key because most 4's can stay with his moves?

He started this 14 months ago.

I'd suggest at least a double espresso for a wake up Rip.

David McGee 3 years ago

By "4" I can only imagine you're referring to Perry... and while you are right that most 4's can't keep up with his moves - I wouldn't say he "initiates" the offense on many possessions. On possessions where Ellis dribble drives, he usually gets a handoff or a quick feed from Mason/Graham somewhere between the free-throw line and the high-post - several seconds into a possession, and only after other offensive options were tried first.

Far more frequently, we do one of the following two things -

ONE. Mason drives the lane like an undersized maniac and either: a: Lays it in off the glass (good result) b: gets clotheslined (good result if the foul is called, bad result if not) c: passes to a big at the last second (potential for points or a turnover) d: kicks it out to an open guy on the perimeter (potentially good result) e: gets swatted (bad result).

All in all, Mason driving the ball is usually fine, but I'd prefer a pick and roll open 3 to any of those options. It is less risky.

TWO. Selden drives the lane and a: gets a charging call (bad result) b: tries to finger-roll instead of going off the glass for the layup (bad result) c: posterizes some fool (good result)

Here again, an open shot on the perimeter is the less risky and more potentially rewarding option going by percentages.

Of course, we also do many other things on offense, but those 2 things you will see many, MANY times in almost every game. Why not use the possessions we spend doing those things instead spreading the floor for an open 3 or an opportunistic pass into Perry if the opportunity presents itself (play outside-in).

We have FIVE (!) players shooting over 40% from the perimeter on the year. That is the DEFINITION of an outside-in team. Think of all those close games against mediocre teams (even though we won them) and then think about the many, MANY possessions in those games we could have used more effectively.

Think about a close game in the tourney against superior bigs where we stubbornly drive the lane or try to pound the ball inside and waste 5-6 possessions that could have been open perimeter shots with a great chance to fall.

A lot of words to say the following: We have a very good offense for some very good players, but it could be even better, and in the tournament we will NEED it to be better at some point. You can't win every close game, and we have had a number of close games this year that should have never been close. Our occasionally stodgy offensive sets are one big reason for them.

William Weissbeck 3 years ago

KU's tournament history, it's not the threats that have gotten us. It's the unforeseen that got in the way.

Austin Bergstrom 3 years ago

Self pity much Jayhawk fans? Lace em up and play the game. I just love the whoa is me attitude of the majority of our fan base! I'm pretty confident The Big 12 Champs aren't shaking in their sneakers over who's in their bracket!

Bryce Landon 3 years ago

I wish I was still living in Louisville so that, if Kansas made it to the Sweet 16, I could go to regional games at the KFC Yum! Center.

My jaw dropped when I saw Colorado as the 8-seed in our region. Imagine the possibility of facing Colorado - a former Big 12 foe - in the NCAA Tournament. Back in the day when the Big 12 was actually 12, I never thought I'd see the day when KU and CU would be in position to play against one another in the NCAA Tournament.

Michael Lorraine 3 years ago

I'm fine with our draw. I will pray to the basketball gods to spare our team from injury.

Jim Pendleton 3 years ago

People, let's get over the geographic location placement! There have been lots of years that one seeds, two seeds, etc are placed in Regions that are not beneficial travel wise. Mostly remember '07 when we were sent West, and UCLA was the two seed. That was more unfair than being sent west!

Second, Castiglione (OU) and the Mich St guy whose name escapes me, are not involved in decisions involving their schools or their conference schools. So drop the favoritism argument for where teams got placed because it does not exist.

Now let's discuss why this draw is actually very beneficial for us. Yeah would have been nice to go to Chicago, but by not being there, we actually miss playing Mich State or some other Big Ten school in their backyard. There are potential tough games in every bracket some where. Also possible some of those teams can get knocked off, especially in this crazy season, where good teams have lost left and right.

But check this out - N Carolina, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Xavier all in the East. Virginia, Iowa State, Utah, and Mich State all in the Midwest. What do all of these teams, and other good ones in those regions have in common? They are all on the other side of the bracket, meaning we would only see one of these teams, and that would be in the title game. Yes there are good teams in our region and the West, but not as many as those other two regions.

We still have to play well each game. I have always said after the first game, it really doesn't matter what you are seeded, because you are likely to see a very good team, and they get better the further you go. As crazy as this year has been, my only interest, as it should be with the team, is to take care of business in Des Moines, and then we will worry about Louisville next week! That being said, I like our chances! Rock Chalk!!

Michael Leiker 3 years ago

awarded in no way implies that it was a gift...KU was also awarded a trophy last night.

Tony Bandle 3 years ago

I guess I am a majority of one since I love our bracket.:

1] No Michigan State, Kentucky or North Carolina, three of the hottest teams in America next to our Hawks.

2] Villanova, an over-rated Catholic school [I'm Catholic so it's OK for me to blast them].

3] Maryland will choke as usual.

4] Cal and UConn, very winnable.

5] Wichita State has to win a play in game.

6] Miami low on NCAA expereience. KU has as a team, about two dozen man years of experience.

"Pants On Backwards" indicated that KU may be the best team but had no NBA quality stars on the roster. I hope that little clip gets put on an eternal loop on a computor in the KU locker room!!

Jonathan Allison 3 years ago

Miami is led by Big XII dropouts Angel Rodriguez and Shelden McLellan. I wouldn't mind facing those guys in the Elite Eight.

Kent Kossoy 3 years ago

Mr Tony Bandle hit it best. Except for location I think we did ok. I also heard the statement about the best team without quality nba stars. Pitting lower seeded teams with 2 best players vs KU. That ought to fire up this team. Especially mr Ellis!! As for the statement about ADs leaving the room, At some point he gets to interject and OU playing in OKC isn't right. But neither is UNC playing in their own state every year!! This is going to be a great run!!

Jim Pendleton 3 years ago

Kent, I agree with all this except for the OU playing in OKC part. You and I could be chairs of the selection committee and OU would still be playing there. No different than years we have played in KC. The "pod systems" the first weekend of the tourney rewards the top four seeds in each region with the closest site to their campus. The only exception would be if that school were the host of said site. Louisville is not in the tourney of course, but if they were, they could not play in the South Region as they are the host there.

Suzi Marshall 3 years ago

This draw suck and reflects pettiness on the part of the NCAA. Retaliation for showing up the NCAA because of the Diallo Affair?

Suzi Marshall 3 years ago

Thought I'd throw out something ridiculous since our bracket was crazy.

William Weissbeck 3 years ago

Lest we forget, there was that Richmond and VCU draw that looked so good. In '08 we were in a tough bracket with ND and Georgetown, but they got knocked off. And we were lucky against Davidson, or we easily could have joined them. NCAA loves these stupid matchups like Turgeon having to coach against his old team. They purposely seeded UK and IU so they could match up. It's the mids and smalls that get screwed because the NCAA and TV want majors to play other major conference teams. In most years there is always a dark horse and a team that rides one player all the way. Let's just hope that's not in our bracket. Of late, we've defended much better. I'm not as worried about a match up causing us problems.

David McGee 3 years ago

Ivan Rabb and Jaylen Brown could easily bounce us if they get past UM. Cal is dangerous and I can see both being very tough matchups for their defender.

Chris Warman 3 years ago

Joe Castiglione was once the A.D. at MU, so I am sure he did not show us any love

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