Former KU player Marcus Morris cited for misdemeanor battery

d_prowess 1 year, 2 months ago

Come on, Marcus! The reason you have friends with you at times like this is so when trouble starts they are the ones that throw the punches and take the fall. You have to pay for their bail and a lawyer, but at least you aren't in the news!

jbrownjib 1 year, 2 months ago

He needs to learn that there is a time not to be out in a club. It seems to me that most of these player/community confrontations occur after mid-night around closing. Maybe it's because the people who are out this late are really drunk. Sometimes walking away by leaving the establishment is the smart move.

The_Bill_Self_Conference 1 year, 2 months ago

thanks dad

seattlephog 1 year, 2 months ago

He's not wrong here. Ideally, one can stay at an establishment and stay away from these confrontations. If that means walking away from a fight, that is what you do. Just as you did on the court to avoid a Technical.

There are a lot of guys out there who are jealous of the KU players' rock star persona. So they want to prove they are better. Either that or some yokels from the east are trying to give our programs a bad name. ;)

I wasn't there however. I don't know what went down or what the two sides of the story are.

mvjayhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

not good.

ahpersecoachingexperience 1 year, 2 months ago

When I become rich and famous, I'm going to hang out at college bars and get into fights.

dgless21 1 year, 2 months ago

I would've sworn you were already rich and famous.

refugee 1 year, 2 months ago

Home run!

Pitt_Mackeson 1 year, 2 months ago

He got recalled from D-League a week ago. This is no way to stay in the NBA though.

rockchalk1990 1 year, 2 months ago

On the surface, that sounds good, but have you seen the baggage some of these dudes have? Iverson, Kemp, the list goes on and on and one. He's got a ways to go!

kufankam 1 year, 2 months ago

But as a KU fan, you'd rather he not be on that list with "those guys"...

cobweb 1 year, 2 months ago

Looks like it was after closing time and they refused to leave because he's now in the NBA and too important to follow normal rules. What a jerk thing to do. Good luck in the d-league Marcus.

Andini 1 year, 2 months ago

These things happen at The Oread? Shocking!

Eride 1 year, 2 months ago

What is with that bar and KU basketball players?

Andini 1 year, 2 months ago

It's because there are hotel rooms upstairs.

drgnslayr 1 year, 2 months ago

It's kind of a math problem:

Alcohol + Ego = Trouble (not necessarily talking about Marcus here)

Sometimes I wonder if directTV called it right in the ad where the guy wears an eye patch and so people believe he is tough but want to know how tough (so the guy gets beat up).

The twins were always built up as being tough guys from Philly by the press. So naturally, every bonehead wannabe tough guy in Lawrence will want to challenge them to see how tough they are.

If you take the Olympic boxing team into bar, they will get challenged left and right. The last thing you want to be known for while visiting a bar is the reputation for being tough... some moron with nothing to lose will want to show everyone why he is a guy with nothing to lose (a loser).

txrockchalk 1 year, 2 months ago

Well-stated, drgnslayr. I have witnessed before what you illustrated in your post. One time back when Tommy Morrison was in his heyday, I observed him hanging out on the sidewalk with some friends down in Westport, minding his own business. A group of punks came up to him and basically were trying to pick a fight with him. He kept his cool and walked away, but I could easily see how someone would retaliate just to shut the punks up.

NomadHawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Good points. And that direcTV add cracks me up!!

jhox 1 year, 2 months ago

More than likely, the guy was trying his best to get Marcus in an altercation. What better way to make a quick buck? That being said, Marcus was not smart to take the bait. This is likely to be a very expensive lesson for him.

marchphog88 1 year, 2 months ago

The bouncing staff, imho.

stupidmichael 1 year, 2 months ago

I'm betting all of these incidents have more to do with the tool-bag bouncers than the players.

middleoftheroader 1 year, 2 months ago

hey... are you scared about tonite's game?

SaltLakeHawk 1 year, 2 months ago

+1

Bouncers at bars are—invariably—giant tools.

Profile of a typical bouncer:

-Owns a multitude of “fitted” (i.e. way too f*cking tight) $150 designer t-shirts, many of which are bedazzled with sparkles.

-Is massive, mostly due to fat. Says things like “I’m just putting on muscle this semester. Next semester I’m going to get completely shredded.”

-Has strong opinions (good or bad) about supplements sold at GNC

-References omega 3 fatty acids at least three different times a day during different conversations

-Refuses to wear any shirt with sleeves while working out

-spends most of his time at the gym talking to other meatheads about how drunk he got over the weekend… usually loudly, so everyone within earshot knows he’s the man

-only respects other guys who can bench-press as much as him. Worships other guys who can bench more

-pleasures himself while watching the movie Roadhouse

onlylookin2score 1 year, 2 months ago

.... MMMMMM... They're Swayze Crazy

KPOP 1 year, 2 months ago

that roadhouse comment is too funny.

lovestehchiefs 1 year, 2 months ago

Roadhouse joke = Ron White

mpann1818 1 year, 2 months ago

Dude...that avatar..is HILRIOUS!

mpann1818 1 year, 2 months ago

Oops..hilarious

njjayhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

If the punch was thrown due to a spat over a female, you get + 1000 points. If punches were thrown over anything else, you get - 1000 points and get to stand in the corner and wear a dunce cap for an hour, and have your picture plastered on the front page of Society section in the LJW.

gmac 1 year, 2 months ago

Way to go Marcus. I assume the sucker punch was thrown by Markeff. Ejections, Elbows, Trash Talk, Poor behavior with Ref's, and who can forget the thug talk to VCU last year before the game. Not soon after VCU beat them down the court and took it to them. Note to Morris Twins: not able to respesent us in a positive manner off the court, not able to get us to the Final Four on the court. Get out of town! Oh don't forget to not shoot people with a BB gun from your dorm room! I am so sick of these guys.

kesmithstl1 1 year, 2 months ago

don't be that guy! You can't cheer for them when they do good, but then turn your back when they do bad.

Bostonjhawkfan 1 year, 2 months ago

don't be that guy. if the dude gets into a fight, he deserves to get chipped on. seriously a fight? you're going to defend the rich guy who gets into a fight...seriously?

TwistedFish31 1 year, 2 months ago

And if it turns out that the "rich guy" was defending himself? None of us know what happened except for the people that were there.

kesmithstl1 1 year, 2 months ago

not defending it, just not turning my back on one of the hardest workers KU has ever seen.

marchphog88 1 year, 2 months ago

I don't know if gmac's comment qualifies as a little "chipping on".

First of all, he brought up stuff on the court, which is completely irrelevant to whatever happened at the Cave.

Second, he told them to get out of town. Little different than calling them to task for poor behavior.

gmac 1 year, 2 months ago

On the court or off the court what does it matter? Against VCU one of them trashed talked beofre the game and motivated VCU more. Then in the first half both of the twins did nothing but watch VCU run past them down court. Their production in the first half, when VCU built there lead, was horrible, like 3 rebounds and 4 points (combined). After that and all the %$#@ that occurred during the year, with ejections, baby behavior with ref's, etc... I stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt. They do not respesent the standards I would like to see for a Kansas Basketball player.

plasticJHawk 1 year, 2 months ago

the Morris brothers showed a lot of growth and maturation while they were at KU, and they worked as hard on the court and in training as anyone could have asked from them.

While there is probably no way to take responsibility for this incident from his shoulders, it's not right (unless you have more information than this article) to take this story fragment and turn it into something as malicious as your post.

ralster 1 year, 2 months ago

Nope. gmac-govt-bailout+boston-outta-touch-jhawkfan got it wrong: Marcus+Tyshawn needed some help in the VCU game. Marcus 20pts, Tyshawn 14. How about your boy Reed going 1-9 from trey, huh? And what about a "BB gun"????? There was no mention in the history of either of the Twins ever, ever using such a dangerous thing as a .177 or .22 cal "BB gun" while on campus. Check your facts, as you apparently dont know Jack Schitt.

And ask the esteemed Bostonian WTF he means by "gonna defend the rich guy"? What kind of no-logic comment is that? So stupid on every level, it has to be called out! Even if Marcus was 100% guilty of whatever transpired, what does "rich guy" have to do with culpability or the evidence in question? You stupid pathetic lowlife, spoken like a true non-achiever, and definitely not like anybody in the law enforcement/legal field (where the evidence+facts make or break the case). Seriously, a "rich" comment??? You just waitin' around for your govt handout, arent ya? Thank you for defining yourself as the quintessential l.o.s.e.r. Some of us degree-earners+bust-azz workaholics actually have earned what we earn the hard way(& came from nothing, too). Get off your butt and go earn something for yourself, loser. Did you even go to KU?

After getting called "soft" repeatedly by Self, and getting humiliated by MichState in their frosh seasons, both the Twins were very hard workers, and turned themselves into lotto picks. But for a young man, 21-22yrs old, the NBA life and its risks are a huge, h-u-g-e adjustment for some personas, easier for others. Yes, precisely for the fact they could be targets for lawsuits, youngsters in the NBA need to pay heed to the rookie orientation warnings by the league. They arent the first to go down this road. Learn from the mistake (if its on Marcus). If not, still learn from it (dont be caught in a situation similar, period.)

EverRisingHawk 1 year, 2 months ago

+1000000

gmac 1 year, 2 months ago

Get the facts BB Gun article http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3545569

First half the Morris twins DID NOT hustle down court and VCU took it to them. Check out the stats the first half with the twins, minimal rebounds and points. I remember watching VCU run right past them without them giving 100%! Check out the tape. VCU build the lead in the first half and they dogged it. I don't care about their final numbers, they sucked the first half when VCU built the large lead.

Not the kind of player I want to respresent Kansas Basketball, I don't care if we don't make it past the sweet 16 without them. Don't want them for their Poor Behavior.

ancient_hawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Really? You honestly don't know the difference between an airsoft gun (which shoots plastic balls about 10 times as big as a BB at low velocity) and a BB gun (which shoots metal BBs at a much higher velocity)?

I'm surprised you didn't call it an assault rifle, moron.

ancient_hawk 1 year, 2 months ago

My kids shoot each other with airsoft guns and laugh. Typical PC hysteria.

Lash 1 year, 2 months ago

Why is this article on the sports page? If a the business owner gets in trouble for the same crime does it show up in the business section. If a preacher gets pulled over does it show up in the religion section?

memhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Just how long have you been following sports, young fella?

KSseahawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Freaking hilarious. +1

LAJayhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

The bigger deal to this will be the intentional tort lawsuit whomever he punched will likely file. Marcus is going to dish out some cash; that would be my guess anyway.....

westernkshawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Where is Angel when you need her?? Maybe she's going to have to start traveling with her "boys!"

memhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Maybe somebody said something about his momma. That would be justification enough for some people.

mispay4ku 1 year, 2 months ago

:( I love when the guys come back to support the team but I wish they'd set a good example when they do. They are no longer under Self's authority but authority, in general, still stands.

memhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

At least he didn't pull out an airsoft gun and shoot the guy.

LAJayhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Wrong Morris.

srj 1 year, 2 months ago

The Oread is poison at I hope Self bans all current players from going there.

Brak 1 year, 2 months ago

LOL pretty ironic coming from a wannabe e-thug, only difference being if you got punked in real life you would just run away crying.

nwhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Bouncer: "Hey, Morris, how's the D League treating you, ha ha ha?"

BAM! POW!

Marcus: "How's my fist treating you, beeyatch?"

RockChalk26 1 year, 2 months ago

Ha, I should have read all the comments before posting. I said the exact same thing.

(Judging by your post, I bet you are one awesome person :)

deepind 1 year, 2 months ago

Haha!! That's awesome!

mpann1818 1 year, 2 months ago

Well done...haha.

RCJ 1 year, 2 months ago

My guess is words were said and rich and famous Marcus had his cool on until not so rich and famous "homeboy from philly" who was with him said "man heeelllllllll naw marc you gonna take that S*#@!!!!!" That is just my guess....

KUbsee69 1 year, 2 months ago

How many misdemeanor battery tickets are issued each week in Lawerence or any other college town? How many made the news?

holidaysmore 1 year, 2 months ago

Reserving judgement until the full story comes out. Both sides of the spectrum here.

You are high profile athlete. You are a celebrity now. People are going to get at you no matter how famous you are. You have become a target. You have to rise above that and keep it moving.
I know there are a lot of haters in Lawrence and from the surrounding area. Very, very jealous of the fame and publicity that these basketball players receive. This sounds like an incident that doesn't involve a 18 or 19 yr kid it probably had to do w/ a 'townie' or someone from KC in town for the party.

Either way you can't tell a guy how to live his life and you can't expect them to be caged up in a house or hotel for the rest of their lives. You just have to have better judgement in areas like that where there is a potential for trouble. Its one thing to prove how tough you are, its another to get black listed right out of the NBA.

RockChalk26 1 year, 2 months ago

My two cents on how the fight started:

Drunk Guy: "Hey Marcus, how's the D-League?" (Marcus stares down drunk guy and punches him the face) Marcus: "About as much as you're going to enjoy that black eye"

beatnik 1 year, 2 months ago

i like marcus, i don't like the oread

oldalum 1 year, 2 months ago

holidaysmore: #2 According to the story the guy who claims he got hit was an employee at the bar.

ralster 1 year, 2 months ago

We are all speculating without full facts (myself included). Remember lotto-money players can make big targets for lawsuits, and if thats the case, Marcus needs to pay heed to the League's advice on how to be above all such ulterior-motive shenanigans. Think about it: some loser bouncer (what a "real job", lol...), but he is supposed to be "tough", yada, yada, yada...

Anyway, I stand behind Marcus until we learn fuller details. Imho, Self helped create the "swagger personas" the Twins displayed, and we know their mother is a golden person. So...until I learn more...

fu7il3 1 year, 2 months ago

So you would stand behind an athlete you don't know, instead of a bar employee you don't know, in fact, you will suggest the bar employee may have been fishing for a lawsuit.

People are ridiculously blinded by sports worship in this town.

ralster 1 year, 2 months ago

Exactly. Like I said, "until I learn more" about the legal facts. Same goes for you, buddy. I will admonish Marcus if he is proven guilty. But, I would admonish him right off the bat for even being around such a situation. Lotto-money players simply need to leave any low-life situation in a hurry. He could "lose face" 100 times over in front of what ever 'other party', but Marcus wakes up the next day still in his lotto-level life (that he earned). He needs to remember that 1 fact. The only thing he has to "reprezent" is his professional interests. It is all business now.

ralster 1 year, 2 months ago

...oh, and there is that little matter in our country of "innocent until proven guilty". So you can assume 'sports worship' just like you are assuming 'guilty', eh? And, you also assume I do not know Marcus and cannot vouch for his character...

fu7il3 1 year, 2 months ago

You are assuming the bouncer must have done something wrong. What is the difference? What seems more likely, a bouncer no one else had a problem with picking on Marcus, or Marcus, who has a history of having a temper and making stupid mistakes, even on the court with thousands of people watching him, being the cause of it.

HawkTronic 1 year, 2 months ago

I want to see an MMA fight between Brock Berglund and Marcus.

ClydeTurnbuckle 1 year, 2 months ago

I love Marcus.

danmoore 1 year, 2 months ago

Don't professional athletes have clauses in their contracts that prohibit them from dangerous activities like skiing and skydiving? If so, they should include nightclubs in that clause. More bad things happen there than any other place.

LarryNative 1 year, 2 months ago

Cave serving after hours? I doubt NBA players are hanging out after hours drinking pepsi.

ahpersecoachingexperience 1 year, 2 months ago

I guess my question is why does a higher end hotel like the oread have a hip hop club in it? Maybe the 4 seasons will follow the oreads lead and open biker bars in their resorts.

DanR 1 year, 2 months ago

Flagrant 1 or flagrant 2? Making a basketball move perhaps?

Hammertoe 1 year, 2 months ago

Thug 1 and Thug 2.... The Morris Twins. Nobody should be surprised by that one.

jrswift 1 year, 2 months ago

Don't think most people realize that when you are a "celebrity," every drunk a** punk (and there are plenty at 2 AM in Larrytown) likes to try and get into it with you, just to prove how tough they are. Poor judgement, yes...but likely not any real criminal intent. What Marcus needs to learn is not to put himself in places and times where these things are likely to happen. Not an easy lesson to learn when you are young, but a necessary one.

Hammertoe 1 year, 2 months ago

a thug on and off the court. I'm sure he wouldn't have been charged if he was innocent. The article said an employee was punched from behind. I doubt the hotel employee was drunk. He was " on the clock ".

justoneperson 1 year, 2 months ago

I take it you have never worked in a bar.

KU62 1 year, 2 months ago

"""She said a male employee alleged he was punched by another man after a verbal dispute that turned physical. It was also alleged another man punched the employee from behind."""

You can be "sure" of two things – you don't know anything about police procedure – you don't know the meaning of the word you use (thug)

No charges have been proferred, merely a citation issued.

Typically, people who are pushed or bumped will claim to have been "punched" – especially people who have been thinking about profit to be made from minor altercations.

Phoghorn 1 year, 2 months ago

Hammertoe is a KSU fan and KU hater, so consider the source.

marchphog88 1 year, 2 months ago

"I'm sure he wouldn't have been charged if he was innocent."

Ah yes, the ol' "innocent until charged with a crime" facet of our great justice system.

You really are an unintelligent person.

brewmaster 1 year, 2 months ago

The trueth is that nobody is surpised to hear that either of the Morris twins is involved in thug behavior.

itsalwayssunnyinlarry 1 year, 2 months ago

Like any of you guys have never thrown a punch... Buncha pansies in here...

Hail_To_Thee 1 year, 2 months ago

How do they know it was Marcus and not Markieff?

;)

Psycho 1 year, 2 months ago

Good point.....Let's take both of their scholarships away.

danno1313 1 year, 2 months ago

Millions of dollars and not much common sense. 237 am? Go to bed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PikesPeakSmitty 1 year, 2 months ago

Simmer down everyone.
Maybe they punched an obnoxious Missery fan.

HoyaLaw89 1 year, 2 months ago

Bouncers have the worst complexes of any profession that comes to mind. I would look to place blame on the behemoths manning the door @ the Cave rather than Marcus. Wouldn't be surprised if one of the doormen instigated the whole thing.

trojanhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Why is this at the top of the list of stories? Honestly, I don't care unless it's one of our current players getting a citation.

There's less discussion after the Robinson Big 12 POTW article.

matlockhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Come on Marcus!!! Have some class. You are not a college kid anymore. Grow up and have a little self control. Gee whiz!!! I have always been a fan. I guess that is why I am soooo disappointed in you. Do it for KU, if not for yourself. Otherwise, just disassociate and stay away. I am sad.

nuleafjhawk 1 year, 2 months ago

At least he can afford bail now.

sleepy33 1 year, 2 months ago

Must not have been too big a deal to them, both twins were out at Hollywood Casino on Sunday night dropping a decent amount of cash on the high limit blackjack table.

marchphog88 1 year, 2 months ago

I have no idea what actually happened.

All I do know is that this is the second KU player to be accused of punching an employee of the Cave. From behind. By an employee of the Cave.

That is either one amazingly strange coincidence, or the bouncers at the Cave are too stupid to realize that they already used the "KU basketball player sucker-punched me" scam.

HawkKlaw 1 year, 2 months ago

There must be something about Axe: It has the potency to cause gorgeous women to throw themselves at you AND has the potency to cause bro-bra's to throw their fists at you. It's like cat-nip for morons!

janetsjazz 1 year, 2 months ago

Really, Marcus? On a visit back to Lawrence for All-Star weekend, when everybody will be watching the former players in town for the big conference game?? C'mon, man. I like and support you, but think first before you put yourself in sticky situations like that. Because you are a public figure, your behavior reflects back on your team and former team/coaches. Part of growing up is thinking first.

KPOP 1 year, 2 months ago

in a bar at 2:30 am and somebody tries to pick a fight. thats weird. the only good news is that nobody got hurt and apparently cooler heads prevailed.

Krohnutz 1 year, 2 months ago

I could swear I have read this article before... It is almost like the names are different, yet so similar that I could swear...

Can anybody tell me if it is the same damn employee or a buddy of said employee?

Hey, I have an idea, stay out of the Cave, the atmosphere cannot be THAT enticing.

lighthawk 1 year, 2 months ago

If the hittee was in black and gold, hit him again.

Hope recruits were in bed...

REHawk 1 year, 2 months ago

Marcus, Jayhawk fans were thrilled to watch your progress in a Kansas uniform, and we are very proud that you represented the school and program so well, and made the most of the opportunity to become a millionaire. That said, we are not pleased to see you back in town, messing your nest and ours. If early morning bar scuffles are your current interest, please keep that stuff down in Texas, far away from the site where you are still looked upon as an athletic hero. It would appear to be in your best personal interest to be remembered, by those who really cared, as a reputable winner. The news of this incident is an insult to the folks who recruited, nurtured and developed your game and personna.

jayhawkeratheart 1 year, 2 months ago

Excellent response, and the most mature response on the page. +1

Former KU player Marcus Morris cited for misdemeanor battery

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