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Friday, February 4, 2011

Hitting his stride: Josh Selby answering call to be aggressive

Kansas guard Josh Selby pulls up for a three as Baylor guard LaceDarius Dunn lunges to defend during the second half on Monday, Jan. 17, 2011 at the Ferrell Center in Waco, Texas.

Kansas guard Josh Selby pulls up for a three as Baylor guard LaceDarius Dunn lunges to defend during the second half on Monday, Jan. 17, 2011 at the Ferrell Center in Waco, Texas.

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Thrust into the role of pseudo-savior before he even had time to warm up, Kansas University freshman Josh Selby exploded onto the scene in mid-December with one of the most memorable debuts in KU basketball history.

In a two-point victory against USC at Allen Fieldhouse, Selby scored 21 points in 27 minutes. He hit five of eight three-pointers and six of seven free throws, much to the delight of an adoring home crowd.

Since then, Selby has endured the types of ups and downs that most freshmen experience during their first seasons of college basketball. However, in the last couple of weeks, Selby has started to turn the corner. The reason? The 6-foot-2 guard from Baltimore has started to become more assertive on offense, taking the ball to the rim instead of just settling for jumpers. It’s worked. And KU coach Bill Self has noticed.

“Ever since the Texas game, I told him I was going to force-feed him to be aggressive,” Self said Thursday. “He’s gotta be aggressive or I can’t play him. And I really believe that he’s become more aggressive and (is) doing more things. He’ll shoot it better if he’s attacking the paint. He’ll pass it better if he’s attacking the paint. He just can’t sit back and be a station-to-station player.”

In 13 games this season, Selby has averaged 27 minutes per contest while scoring 12 points per game. Although there have been games where he has disappeared offensively, Self has given him time to work through it for two big reasons. First, after sitting out the first nine games of the year, Selby is just now starting to hit his mid-season stride. Second, he’s done enough positive things of other varieties to warrant the minutes, particularly of late.

“He’s not selfish. He’s not taking an abundance of shots. But he’s looking to score, and that forces help and (then) he can find other guys,” Self said. “I think he’s doing a nice job now.”

Self continued: “Sometimes when kids hear you say, ‘Be under control,’ they hear, ‘Back it out.’ (When you say) ‘We can get a better shot than that,’ they hear, ‘Don’t shoot.’ Even though you don’t say that, that’s how they interpret what you say, so it’s kind of a fine line. ‘Go.’ He understands that. And he needs to go, he needs to go. And he needs to have that freedom to know that he can go.”

Selby, by the way, has been wearing a boot on the ankle he sprained in the first half of the Kansas State game.

“He tweaked his ankle and is wearing the boot for precautionary reasons,” Self said.

Releford slow to return

Self said Thursday that red-shirt sophomore Travis Releford still had a ways to go in recovering from the ankle injury he suffered against Iowa State on Jan. 12.

“Unfortunately, for him, he turned his ankle pretty severely and he’s still not 100 percent,” Self said. “We played him (Tuesday) against Texas Tech and he did fine while he was out there, made a couple of good passes and certainly didn’t hurt us when he was out there.”

Before the injury, Releford had begun to establish himself as one of the key members of Self’s shrinking rotation. Now, the 6-foot-5 guard is fighting to get back into it.

“In tight games, I don’t want to play six perimeter players,” Self said. “So I don’t know. He’s probably gonna have to get back into that mode of either beating Mario Little out or beating one of our perimeter players out.”

Brady simply being Brady

KU guard Brady Morningstar has enjoyed the most productive offense stretch of his senior season during the past couple of weeks. In a loss to Texas, Morningstar hit 4-of-5 field goal attempts and finished with eight points. He followed that up with 14 points, on 5-of-9 shooting (4-of-7 from three-point range) in a road win at Colorado and added 12 points on 5-of-7 shooting in Tuesday’s victory at Texas Tech.

Despite his recent hot shooting, Self said Morningstar’s value to the team remained as high as ever.

“He only scored four points against K-State and he was just as important in that game as he was the (others),” Self said. “But we need he and/or Tyrel (Reed) to be able to knock down shots. That’s what they should be able to do and that’s what they’ve done consistently in their careers. He’s become very aggressive and certainly, when you’re aggressive and you’re a post-feeder, that’s usually good for your offense because guys have to guard you.”

Reed sore, Taylor fine

Self said Thursday that senior guard Tyrel Reed was suffering from a sore left foot but added that the injury should not force the senior from Burlington to sit out any time soon.

“He’s been nursing a sore foot for a month or so and it bothered him for the first time in a game in Lubbock (Texas), so I cut back on his minutes, but he’s still gonna practice, he’s still gonna play. He’s got a bone bruise. The only thing that will heal it would be time off and we don’t have time, so he’s gonna have to play with it.”

Reed said Thursday that he may wear a boot when he’s not playing or practicing to take pressure off of the foot but confirmed that he would not miss any action.

As for other injuries, Self said junior guard Tyshawn Taylor, who momentarily left the floor after twisting an ankle during Tuesday’s victory against Texas Tech, was fine and also would not miss any time.

Reed an academic whiz

KU’s Reed has been named to the 2010-11 Capital One Academic All-District 7 men’s basketball team it was announced Thursday by the College Sports Information Directors of America (CoSIDA). Reed will now appear on the national ballot as a candidate for Capital One Academic All-America honors. Reed also has a chance to become the second-straight Jayhawk men’s basketball player to be named Academic All-American of the Year after Cole Aldrich earned that distinction last year.

Daniels update

DeAndre Daniels, a 6-foot-8 senior forward from IMG Academies will remain at the Bradenton, Fla., school through the spring and not attend college until the fall, Zagsblog.net reports. Daniels had considered enrolling at either KU, Texas or Kentucky second semester. Nobody in Daniels’ camp is talking publicly.

Comments

Funhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

You know Josh is having fun when his grin slides off his face onto yours.

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Greg Lux 3 years, 5 months ago

It is contagious for sure. That young man has a lot of personality.

Rock Chalk

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SaulGood 3 years, 5 months ago

It's not just his number that reminds me of Magic. I was kind of hoping to see that kind of initiator - a needle-threading, spot-finding maniac looking to create opportunities out on the floor. But hey! I'll take those offensive drives any day of the week!

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

Only one Magic, but your point is well taken.

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Robert Lofthouse 3 years, 5 months ago

Tyrel is hitting his stride with the Lowe's Senior Class Award - in the lead with 23.9% this morning! Vote every day for him at http://apps.facebook.com/senior-class-award/?ref=bookmarks&count=0

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hawk316 3 years, 5 months ago

Congratulations, Tyrel! Hope your foot heals quickly.

For all those Brady Morningstar critics, I hope you read Coach Self's comments carefully. Just in case you missed them:

"Despite his recent hot shooting, Self said Morningstar’s value to the team remained as high as ever."

“He only scored four points against K-State and he was just as important in that game as he was the (others),” Self said. “But we need he and/or Tyrel (Reed) to be able to knock down shots. That’s what they should be able to do and that’s what they’ve done consistently in their careers."

There's a reason why Coach Self kept playing Brady even when he was in a shooting slump. He makes this team better.

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waywardJay 3 years, 5 months ago

says you and the coach....

I put my faith in raw numbers..... and they were not as kind to Brady....

But hey, If Brady's play can stay at this level so be it..... His hit and miss defense is greatly offset by his ability score on the other end.

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Dan Harris 3 years, 5 months ago

I'll put my trust in Self's judgement over yours if you don't mind

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

"Banged Up Ankles and Feet: Random or Biased?

This perimeter of this team is really banged up. Reed, Selby, and Releford have ankle spains, or bone bruises. Taylor has a twist that Self is saying isn't bad, which is what he said about Releford's and Releford wound up sitting several games. And he doesn't even mention EJ with some kind of a should/arm problem. No wonder Self has had them cramming it inside!

I don't recall this many perimeter guys hurt at the same time. Are we witnessing coincidence, or has style of play changed in some way that increases the frequency of ankle/foot problems, or is weight gain a trigger?

More specifically regarding weight gain as a possible trigger, has lean weight gain in thighs, and upper body occurred without sufficient attention being paid to strengthening ankle muscles to carry the additional weight?

I've been wondering about side effects of weight gain on basketball players ever since Withey had his bizarre, never explained "illness" that has appeared not only to cause him to lose the 25-30 pounds he had gained this past off-season, but also seems to have sapped him of almost all the strength he had when he came to KU. Withey appears to have turned into a pale, skinny rag doll, and to reiterate, he does not appear to be recovering even the strength and coordination he possessed that he had when he came to KU. Strange in deed.

Now KU has this anomalous flurry of ankle and foot injuries to perimeter players.

Conspicuously, the bigs--Marcus, Kieff and Thomas--who have been big weight gainers have not manifested the same flurry of ankle injuries, as the perimeter players, or else I have missed the news of such.

Possibly weight gain and strength building of the kind the perimeter players are going, which does not manifest in large increments of weight gain, but more strength and less body fat, is somehow shifting the CG of perimeter players higher, and maybe because the perimeter players do a lot more cutting that stresses ankles more, the modest weight gain coupled with weight redistribution upwards, is trigging the phenomenon.

There is no free lunch in physics and physiology. You alter the mass of parts of a system and there are going to be consequences, both intended and unintended, because of complexity and related uncertainty.

Let's hope the flurry of injuries is random coincidence and not attributable to weight bias.

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KGphoto 3 years, 5 months ago

Or it could just be that basketball is an ankle spraining sport. ; )

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jhawkrulz 3 years, 5 months ago

Or that guards are asked to be down under the basket more often now to rebound.

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jakejayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

And the black helicopters are circling AFH! Isn't conspiracy theory fun?

Jaybate, only lighthearted humor for your comments -- no offense intended.

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SaulGood 3 years, 5 months ago

Wow...I think it's amazing that you've put this much insight together. You're making me review these as more than just chance happenings. I'm still befuddled as to whether we know what really happened to Releford's feet. My take? Could be a shoe contract, could be a different thing: preseason conditioning, stretching and training can't possibly follow the same regimen as that of the regular season. I don't know much about anything training-related, but I imagine that the time spent on the road and in class drastically changes the workouts.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Your response to my post is what is cool about iteractivity on the net. You just sharply expanded the opportunity set of possibilities that I started. I didn't even think of these possible triggers. Great!

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Khublai_Juan 3 years, 5 months ago

I would probably attribute it to the transition play this year. It seems that most of these injuries to the guards have occurred while on fast breaks where they come down wrong on their ankles or land on someone else's foot.

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Steve Brown 3 years, 5 months ago

Maybe we need to check the springs in the jayhawk towers elevators, or the fit of our shoes or warm up stretching. I recall years ago during Owen tenure we had a synthetic floor that was supposed to add bounce and it added so much bounce that we had palming the ball called a bunch...it was such an odd floor that when we played on wood it was odd for us.

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

Great analysis but by this time of the year, injuries are common..i'm just glad we haven't had any season ending injuries and w/our bench we can play around the nagging type most of ours seem to be.

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Dan Harris 3 years, 5 months ago

your reaching for some insight there Jaybate! ankle sprains are ankle sprains it happens when you roll or step on somebodies foot! There are the same amount of sprains today as there was 35 years ago when I played(not past high school) and sprained my ankles regularly as a skinny 165lb kid!

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dynamitehawk 3 years, 5 months ago

As I sit here and eat Cheerios, watch Morning Joe, and ponder this article, I can't help to think of two things today:

1) Josh Selby has lived up to the hype, and I really hope he stays another year or so.

2) I don't blame Bill Clinton for messing around on this wife at all... I mean that dude Charlotte Blubaugh is hotter than her..

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okiedave 3 years, 5 months ago

Now that's funny. Thanks for my first laugh of the day.

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KU_FanSince75 3 years, 5 months ago

Dynamite---You ain't a Rice Krispies guy? I figured you would love the snap, crackle, pop----if you know what I mean!

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

I'm aghast..most of Bill's indiscretions were w/women that would cause questions into his competence.

Then again, Hillary isn't the subject of too many sexual fantasies.

Please don't take this as any type of political statement.

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jessejayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Bill,s choice of women leads me to believe that he was masochistic

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

"Self on Selby"

Selby is getting Self's Full-Nelson paradox therapy right now.

“He’s gotta be aggressive or I can’t play him. And I really believe that he’s become more aggressive."--Bill Self

“Sometimes when kids hear you say, ‘Be under control,’ they hear, ‘Back it out.’...‘Go.’ He understands that. And he needs to go, he needs to go."--bill Self

So: let's see, Josh, Self is saying:

Play aggressively, but under control, and go. And while you're at it, even though you are my first or second most consistently productive perimeter player, I won't play you if you can't be really aggressive while you do the other two.

Self demanding?

Oh, no, not at all. :-)

Wooden distilled all this to quick not fast. By quick he meant "like a panther," always balanced, purposeful, relentlessly stalking and then lightening quick in the kill, not like a flea hopping wildly. By not fast he meant "not like a race horse."

Go?

Go like a panther stalking a kill.

Ali put it even more memorably.

"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee."

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TanMan 3 years, 5 months ago

Sure hope Selby's aggressive is better than X. Henry's aggressive... to that point, Selby should stay another year, it would have helped Henry (who doesn't look comfortable the couple min a game he seems to get with Memphis)

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Steve Brown 3 years, 5 months ago

TanMan, wow recall when we got you a new bike several decades ago....hope you are well, TMan.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Two things first.

  1. This man has more energy in his thumb than I have in my whole body. No wonder kids play hard for him.

  2. He certainly can cut to the chase on a guy's performances.

I really loved his take on Tyshawn. He scored 13 one game and played great and scored zero another game and played great. Self walks the talk of team and playing a floor game being the acid tests.

Imagine a guy like Josh coming in and hearing a coach say and mean it that pouring in the buckets is not the only thing.

It is no wonder certain guys choose to go elsewhere.

Five minutes with Self staring through you like a laser with a smile face stuck to it, and you know this is going to make you play basketball, not just a game of AAU grab ass.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Question for the Online Editors:

Is KUSports.com about to be jettisoned as a free standing page and folded into the sports page of LJW.com, as part of the spin off of some of The World Corporations digital assets?

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SDSurferFan 3 years, 5 months ago

Sounds good but he has to finish. So many short floaters, so many missed layups, so many bad passes on breakaways. His shooting is getting there, no doubt on his hustle, Ds getting better, and he can create for others. If he can actually take a page from TT (drive for layup or draw foul), KU would progress from very good to great.

The team is better than last year. Selby needs to be the X factor with out being Xavier(NBA talent, OAD, weak performance in March)

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KGphoto 3 years, 5 months ago

The running floaters have been killing me. But he's so determined about them, I can't help but think he'll shoot his way out of the slump like Morningstar did with his signature shot. And if he does? Oh boy! That shot could be like a knife in the back of so many teams. It's like the Crane Kick in Karate Kid. "If done correct... is no defense".

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

he may miss the shot, but he's driving, & on the way creating space for other players for the dishout..if the the short floater misses TRob or the Twins need to be there for the putback. of course, i dont like it when he misses, but we've got to have someone taking to the rack regularly......

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

"...almost tougher than a 3pt shot, believe it or not."

Totally agree. It takes a lot of practice at game speed to get it down. It's a rhythm thing. He'll get better as he goes. I just hope he adds other dimensions as well.

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LAJayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

It seems to me that he isn't able to do the same things with the drive that he could so easily do against high school opponents. He didn't have to develop that Sherron ability to finish at the rim, because he was so far advanced athletically at the previous level. Now that he is facing much better, faster athletes, when he reaches the paint, he doesn't have the skill set yet developed to make the finishing move. Thus, we are seeing a lot of floaters.

This is something that will simply take time for him to establish. He has to play at this speed for a while, and he, undoubtedly, will be able to finish at the rim with much more consistency/authority. It will probably take an off season for him to really progress in that realm, as there isn't a lot of room at this time to "learn on the job" so to speak (although, he's already shown a lot of progress so far this season, he will probably see a bit more before it is over).

If he does come back next year (and who really knows at this point, could go either way), I would expect dramatic improvement. He would be the type of guard you build a team around. And he should be able to finish at the rim much, much better.

However, his aggressiveness opens up the floor in so many other ways, that it's not a killer for him to not be that consistent yet. It opens up the post guys as their defenders are forced to help. It opens up the perimeter players (i.e. Reed, Brady) to knock down wide open treys. And it opens up his own outside shot as his defender is forced to back off him and respect the drive. Finally, and most importantly, it is giving Josh confidence that he can take anyone at this level. He is clearly quicker than probably just about anyone he plays, so he knows the more he works at driving, the more dominant he will be.

It just takes some time.

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

Could you imagine how good of a player Selby would be if he progressed in the off season at the rate the twins and TRob progressed?

X would not be a 5 min and under player if had stayed..Same w/J Wright.

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

Just checked X's stats..although only scoring 5pts and less than 1 assist per game..he is getting 15 min. Also Julian is above 13 min but also doesn't have much to show for it statistically wise.

But I still think they all needed another year.

Hard to turn down that money though.

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Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 5 months ago

How interesting that Brady's sudden resurgence parallels the apparent vanishing act from posting by ...nebr,

Certainly, this is coincidental, right? I mean, how could the rantings of an anonymous member of a comment posting culture affect the play of an NCAA student-athlete, either by his postings or non-postings, and ultimately the productivity of a college sports team? Hogwash. right? ....or is it????? Do we really have super-powers to manipulate games? What power we hold with our fingers on our keyboards!

Any other examples, hogwash or not, of similar coincidences possibly related to this board and it's threads?

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

Can't recall any but still have a troll or two around now & again. The power of positive thinking can be amazing. Just look what "Git er' done" has accomplished for the touchdown hotdog guy! I heard him say he wanted to be a hog farmer once. Nothing wrong with farming for sure, (I do some dirt farming myself), but he's far from the sharpest tool in the barn either. Wonder what's in the water up there.

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PhogAdvisory 3 years, 5 months ago

Dave Barry said it better than I could:

"...Our main function [as fans], and we took it very seriously, was to ensure that the 76ers won. We did this by being deeply concerned about them, to the point of derangement. If you were to go back and carefully analyze videotapes of certain critical parts of certain critical games, you would see faint but definitely visible Concern Rays shooting out of [my friend] Buzz's and my heads onto the basketball court, affecting the course of the game.

The ultimate instance of this occurred in a game during the 1865-86 season, when the 76ers were playing the Boston Celtics.

[...]

I read an article once stating that down in Central America, they take sports a little too seriously in the sense that they routinely kill each other over soccer. (For the record, I think this is overreacting, unless of course once again we are talking about the play-offs.)

So anyway, there was this big match once where El Salvador beat Honduras... and the next day one of the newspapers in the winning country claimed that the foot of Jesus had actually come down from heaven several times and deflected shots from the winning team's goal. Ther ewas an actual drawing of this in the newspaper.

Now, you may laugh at this, but I do not. Because a very similar thing happened in the 76ers-Celtics game, except that it was not the foot of Jesus (although He might have helped). It was Concern Rays emanating from Buzz and me at a level of intensity that we had never before achieved. These rays shot laserlike from our forehads, intercepted the ball at the height of its arc, and CAUSED LARRY BIRD TO MISS TWICE.

I am not seeking praise here. I am merely stating a fact."

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Alohahawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Most trolls are no shows whenever bad news happens to their team(s), or when the opposite occurs to teams they don't root for. Note the disappearance of troll dodo "wildcatiszero" or however he/she identifies themself. Whenever that name surfaces, I immediately ignore the posts. I also got to the point where I was skipping over "nebr's" posts as well. He/she might (?) be a KU fan, but he/she doesn't truly support the team. HMM, a Hershey's chocolate bar or some M&M's might be a good remedy for what ails them.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Hypothesis: Self created the alias jhawkinnebr as part of the toughening box to snap Brady out of the slump. Now that he's out of it, alias disappears.

Just kidding. :-)

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Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 5 months ago

Funny! … or, in troll-speak: funy!!!!!

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

Reed now at 24%-keep voting. We'll miss he & Brady for sure next year but with another year exp for all these underclassmen just imagine how super this group would be if they all came back. We literelly could have 3 to 4 candidates for POY on one squad. We'll miss Mario also but really has not been the consistant contributor some of us envisioned. And gee, haven't noticed the Brady basher "from the North" lately; must be back under the rock or maybe the pile of sorgum fodder!

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Daniel Rojas 3 years, 5 months ago

senior class award??? ....where can i vote 4 tyrel to get benched!!! ...thats the link I want!?

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

If you're the groundhog you missed your show. Go back in the hole for another 6 months.

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

Trapped a woodchuck once, was living under the front steps where the rain had made a washout. Fat little fart too. Must have weighed 20#. But he came out & went right in the cage for apple & peanut butter. Man was he pi$$ed when the door hit him in the butt! Got rid of him about as quick as I found him. No problem.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

piggdogg.000000000000005099,

How very Fizzouzian of you! What do you think of having the Fizzou basketball players getting shiz plasters and then being marched naked through Columbia carrying signs that read "We know KU is the master that we serve on all fours gratefully!"

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Dan Harris 3 years, 5 months ago

Idiot alert! idiot alert! troll above! idiot troll above!

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REHawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Tyrel to get benched??? Are you for real?

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ahpersecoachingexperience 3 years, 5 months ago

Doesn't academic all American get your number in the rafters?

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KGphoto 3 years, 5 months ago

Academic All-American of the Year should.

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PhogAdvisory 3 years, 5 months ago

It gets your name on the Academic All-American banner (same side of the Fieldhouse with the Natl. Championship banners), but as far as I know it doesn't get your jersey retired. (Or if it does, then they're taking their sweet time with Ryan Robertson.)

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Steve Gantz 3 years, 5 months ago

I had a dream last night (this is a true story) that I was watching a KU game against some really good team and a very reliable FT shooter (Reed?) missed the 2nd of 2 FT's. It was the last minute of the game. Then I woke up. Anyone know how the game ended? This website had nothing on it.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

yes. it was christian moody. the game was played at Mizzou Arena. I still have these same nightmares:-)

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jayhawktalk 3 years, 5 months ago

'Kief couldn't quite corral it, but, amazingly and despite being pushed in the back, got a hand on the miss to keep it alive. TRob came from nowhere to rip it from the hands of an over matched opponent, and jammed it home.

KU hit the remainder of their free throws down the stretch, gave up no easy shots, pulled in every available defensive rebound, and won by 9.

Bill, abandoning his normal stoicism, wandered happily around the court wearing the net as a hat, stopping only at Vitale to scribe "Preseason 5th in Big XII" on his bald dome with a Sharpy. Marcus & 'Kief apologized profusely to Erin Andrews, after she innocently wandered between them as they went for the epic, celebratory chest bump; Josh, EJ and TRel stood watching the scene, grinning. Even Tyrel accidentally smiled... Everyone paused in unison, looked toward the rafters, and blew a kiss to Lisa Robinson, including TRob, Jayla perched sweetly atop his shoulders.

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Dirk Medema 3 years, 5 months ago

Fantastic.

I particularly want to see Jayla celbrating with TRob in April.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

crap....that was a good ending!!

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Steve Gantz 3 years, 5 months ago

Sorry BlownJay, I like jayhawktalk's outcome better. But thanks for bringing up the bad memory!

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

shucks, better luck next time!! that was wrong of me to bring that up, huh.

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Alohahawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Glad you weren't having a nightmare, because we won handily.

A "really good team", hmmm, can't have been kitter kat twins - Missery and K-State, or N.Carolina, or... well you fill in the blanks.

Great responses. "jayhawktalk", thanks for the good laughs to start my day. Wonder what Erin would end up looking like, having been M&M'd? : -)

And yes, wouldn't it be nice if Jayla could attend a game? The crowd would go crazy. The roof just might be blown off.

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clevelandjayhawker 3 years, 5 months ago

Im not a fan of this injury bug crap...Releford was really hitting his stride before he rolled that ankle...Mario has been playing really well as of late in limited mins

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SaulGood 3 years, 5 months ago

Agreed! I'm bummed that the burden's on Releford now to earn his way back in. Makes sense from a coach's perspective...doesn't mean I have to like it.

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kesmithstl1 3 years, 5 months ago

too bad about Daniels, for selfish reasons. Good for him though to enjoy high school while he still can.

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addlime 3 years, 5 months ago

Maybe this is a good sign, since I understand that KU doesn't have a scholly for him right now.

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Tony Bandle 3 years, 5 months ago

Unfortunate circumstances: These injuries seem to key into the exact strongpoints of each player.

1] Travis Releford's ankle injury deprives him of his most valuable game attribute, the ability to slide, defend and stop penetration. 2] Tyrel Reed's ankle injury limits his most valuable game attribute, the ability to elevate for shooting the three and backside rebounding. 3] Elijah Johnson's shoulder injury effects his abilty to use his long reach to defend and deflect. 4] Tyshawn Taylor's ankle injury, though considered fine now, should be monitored because that could hamper his penetration.

Josh needs to understand that he has to stop and go vertical when penetrating into a defense. Countless baskets and assists have been negated by this shortfall.

However, when he goes to the NBA, no one plays defense and no one takes charges so he won't have to worry about it there!!

SIDE NOTE: Yes, jayhawkinnebr has been banned but beware of any new posters with similar names; jayhawkinnorthdak, jayhawkinrhodeisld, jayhawkinkabul, jayhawkinnarnia, jayhawkinoz, jayhawkinsoobawlsbedroom, etc.

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goshenjhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

And thank you, sir, for my first good laugh of the day! Everybody here at work is wondering what is so funny, and how I am to explain to them how funny jayhawkinsoobawlsbedroom is?

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

jayhawkinnarnia!

Classic!

+Googleplex

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Alohahawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Always thought it was "jayhawkinbrasska"

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Kye Clark 3 years, 5 months ago

I don't know that anything associated with defense would be considered a strong point of EJ's game. Agreed on the rest.

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KU_FanSince75 3 years, 5 months ago

Josh being aggressive and attacking the basket puts the pressure on the opposing D. It makes every other player on the floor look better for the Jayhawks. Definitely could carry us a long way----hopefully, all the way to Houston!

BTW, did anyone see that Northern Iowa lost one of their best rebounder and floor leader, O'Leary, for the season? He was the guy with the green clover leaf tatoo on his shoulder. Big loss for the Panthers. That will really hurt them if they get to the Dance again.

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kesmithstl1 3 years, 5 months ago

Yeah, I heard that. I can't stand that guy, but I still don't want something like that to happen to anyone! It's great for WSU though.

BTW, anyone catch that WSU is ranked higher than K-State, and has been for the past 2 weeks?

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Jared Grillot 3 years, 5 months ago

This week seems K-State with no votes whatsoever. And WSU with 6. Wild. Good thing the Pre-season coaches and pundits know exactly what they're talking about...

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saad007 3 years, 5 months ago

Vote for Tyrel Reed jayhawks. He's currently the leading candidate for the Lowe's Senior Class Award. http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

and man, i switched from sugar to splenda this morning. i hated it!!

i hate it!

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Dan Harris 3 years, 5 months ago

+1 goes for real butter over margerine also!

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PhogAdvisory 3 years, 5 months ago

I adjusted my settings so that anytime I open Chrome, the Senior Class award pops up as one of my home pages. Makes it easy to remember!

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Bob Thompson 3 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for posting the link again. I now have it marked as a favorite so I will be able to get back to it. Nice to see Tyrel Reed leading the pack

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Hank Cross 3 years, 5 months ago

When those words are followed by quick hooks for EJ and Travis, it was a logical conclusion for them to draw.

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waywardJay 3 years, 5 months ago

again, Unless your name is a former basketball star and a major booster, you get the benefit of the doubt.

Of course, No one is accusing Brady of not playing quick enough though he moves slower than any of our Injured Jayhawk Brethren.

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Joe Baker 3 years, 5 months ago

Coach Self- You are exactly right about how the players are interpreting your on court comments.

"Force feed" EJ and tell him to "GO"!

You'll have three phenoms in your backcourt.

GO EJ, TT and Josh!!

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100 3 years, 5 months ago

Troll below... Could this be jayhawkinnebraska?

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Jack Wilson 3 years, 5 months ago

Remember, though, different rules for EJ than others.

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Daniel Rojas 3 years, 5 months ago

thats what im talkin about truehawk93....id rather see elijah than tyrel...way more explosive! ...tyrel is 1 dimensional!!! he plays 3 pt line and out...no threat of ever penetrating!

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Ken Sedgwick 3 years, 5 months ago

Self doesn't take suggestions from the puppypound!

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

Vince Young is more explosive than Tom Brady.

Who do you want as your quarterback?

Tyrel outperforms EJ in every statistical category except assists. Tyrel always puts forth a tenacious effort, becuase he understands how to play to at max effort, yet within himself. Tyrel doesn't dribble the ball off of his shoes while not being guarded.

I love EJ too, but he's not capable of taking Reeds minutes.

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Steve Brown 3 years, 5 months ago

Jhawk in Grand Island, welcome back now leave.

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Joe Baker 3 years, 5 months ago

biggdogg- I love EJ!! It's hard to beat a senior who is smart, strong, explosive and can do just about whatever he wants. I'd love to see EJ play like Reed, but not happening.

I love EJ but I trust Reed way more at this point. Reed is the guy you want in the game. Hence, this is why HCBS says, "he will play through." No bone bruise will keep Reed from playing. The dude is a freakin' Kansas Jayhawk stud!! I'm not even going to get into his academics. Reed is every coach's dream.

I do admire your love for EJ!! I just don't think he warrants more love than Reed!!

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Jared Grillot 3 years, 5 months ago

Absolutely ludicrous. No guard in our lineup plays as under control as Tyrel. Both EJ and TT have a terrible habit of bouncing in like a superball - flying every-which-way and often off in the wrong direction.

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Hank Cross 3 years, 5 months ago

If JiN got banned, that's lame. He didn't say anything racist, obscene, violent, etc. Although I am also critical of Brady, I would be saying the same things if he had been criticizing my favorite players. Have we become so thin-skinned and hyper-sensitive in America? And I don't want to hear that the banning was justified because a player might have got their feelings hurt. Many men and women in the military serving in Afganistan are the same age as these players, and they face real potshots and not just some random carping from people on the Internet.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

he wasn't banned. he just quit posting because he realized he could not convince anybody of his nonsense.

btw, oaxaca,mexicojayhawk, signing up for a game of basketball & signing up for wartime activity are not analagous.

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Steve Brown 3 years, 5 months ago

I'm strong advocate of free speech and if JH in Freemont had only slammed Brady 100 times I wouldn't care, but 1,000 times and three times a day...come on...

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Daniel Rojas 3 years, 5 months ago

im not a troll....im Daniel in Dodge city...if u listen to the locker room show after the games u know me...i love ku more than anything!!! just cuz u dont agree with my OPINION doesnt make me a "troll" or an "idiot"!!

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Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 5 months ago

My mistake, biggdogg. Typically, two sure signs of a troll are a clear lack of player-specific knowledge and the overuse of exclamation points. I noticed both in your post and drew the wrong assumption. Mea culpa.

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

A negligible mastery of the English language may also be listed as a hint.

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Even if you're "Vonce in Brooklyn," you talk troll. Prove board rat nation wrong. Do a post about how Tom Osborne fondles cow tongues, and how Mike Anderson wears Antler puke for cologne.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

oh man, thanks for the good laugh!!! you know it's good when you re-read it 3 more times!!

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Dan Harris 3 years, 5 months ago

Damn it Jabate spilled another scotch busting a gut!

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Steve Brown 3 years, 5 months ago

im not a troll, im gary in garden, meet you half way, bring the silver buckle. not. First, my pals in Dodge don't say Dodge City any more than my SC fans say USC.

if you aren't netherbraininnebr. then accept my aopology, my bad.

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

It's too bad that many are chastised or worse for expressing their feelings... Some take it seriously if you aren't marching in goose step with their oppinions but most posters do not fit into this category. One person called me a bandwagon fan and that I was really from MU. I live and die w/Jayhawk basketball. Although I should take a 24hr rest after a loss before posting with feelings and not with fact.

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KU_alum_2001 3 years, 5 months ago

Nobody has commented much on Daniels' situation. Based on the rumors we were all being fed about KU trying to arrange his financial assistance so he could attend this spring, this can't be good news. Does this imply that KU couldn't find a way to make it work? Or simply that he decided he didn't want to start school early? Or that he's simply uncertain about KU?

I was really pumped about us getting him and hopefully Ben. With the "potential" loss of Marcus, Selby, Reed, Brady, and Mario, I was counting on him being the most likely of the group to sign with us. Now that seems completely up in the air. I'd rather have gotten him on the team early as opposed to giving other programs more time to try to convince him to NOT come to KU.

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Tony Bandle 3 years, 5 months ago

I was afraid that "gift scholarship" to Conner would come back and haunt us....and it has.

I'm just sayin', now Kentucky and Texas have three more months of getting into this kid's head. I still think he goes Crimson and Blue:

1]Bill Self 2]Danny Manning 3]Major PT 4]Maui Tournament 5]His buddy, walk-on Christian ?????? 6]More ESPN Big Mondays than almost anyone. 7] UK and UT did something to drive him away.....why would anything change. 8]Loves the pregame video 9]Hums the Rock Chalk Chant in the shower 10] Favorite colors are Crimson and Blue

Note: A bit of poetic license taken with #8, #9,#10.

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Jack Wilson 3 years, 5 months ago

I was thinking the exact same thing .. which in the long run, may not bode well for you .. but man, would have been nice to sew that deal up.

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KU_alum_2001 3 years, 5 months ago

And I notice they didn't use bold font for the Daniels update heading. Ha ha. It's as if they're going out of their way to not disappoint us today. I can picture them as they wrote this...

"As journalists, we have to report it. Tell you what, don't put it in bold and maybe nobody will notice. After all, who's going to read about Reed's academic abilities, right?"

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

Yeah, this is going to turn into class warfare on the floor.

This is for bragging rights forever!

Self needs to Admiral Nimitz and keep the Twin aircraft carriers hidden on the bench. Start Little and TRob. Let them take the early fouling and then come strong and brutally with the Twins at 4 minutes in.

Then let the cheap shotting begin.

Doc wants it bad.

We have to want it more.

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

Can't blame any coach for getting his team ready..As long as they play clean.

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Jared Grillot 3 years, 5 months ago

We have a mother load of guards in our pen. Drive the lane, get the fouls, send that monstrous dude in the paint back to the bench in foul trouble by the 10 min mark. And for goodness sake, shoot! Like Mario and UCLA (again, thank goodness for his quick thinking), if we don't shoot when we attack, then we don't go to the stripe. Get them fouling, make the FTs, and we don't look back.

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d_prowess 3 years, 5 months ago

Wow, this was a Tait story. Considering that he does some women's bball coverage too, can we start labeling Matt Tait as the LJW's triple threat?

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Tony Bandle 3 years, 5 months ago

I'm not sure if that hurts them or helps them!!

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waywardJay 3 years, 5 months ago

Helps them. Larry Drew the sequel was a bum.

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JHWK 3 years, 5 months ago

Come on, Jayhawks!

Vote for Coach Self, too!!

http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/infiniti/2011/index

We cannot, with good conscience allow less classy coaches to prevail! As we say in Chicago: vote early and often!!

Rock Chalk!

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Daniel Rojas 3 years, 5 months ago

100....what part of im a troll dont u get? i told u exactly who i am! I just don't care 4 tyrel is all...go look at some archive threads and my name will pop up football and basketball...no1 ever called me a troll b4 i say tyrel "the chosen one" isnt a starter? now tell me what makes him so good genius? his average at best shooting? his "tenacious heart and d"?

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

the problem with your logic is that you say Tyrel should not be playing, but you offer no current player as a viable substitute for his minutes.

c'mon big dog. if there is somebody more deserving of minutes than Tyrel, why don't you support your claim with something other than "explosiveness"

Everybody, I'd be willing to bet, EVERYBODY on this forum would rather have Tyrel on the court in crunch time than EJ.

Lowes Senior Class Award: An acronym for Celebrating Loyalty and Achievement for Staying in School™, the Lowe's Senior CLASS Award focuses on the total student-athlete and encourages students to use their platform in athletics to make a positive impact as leaders in their communities. The award identifies personal qualities that define a complete student-athlete, with criteria including excellence in the classroom, outstanding character and community service, in addition to competition on the field.

One of our own gets nominated for this, and the only thing you can say is "bench him"

Lord have mercy on your offspring.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

by "lord have mercy on your offspring" I mean, it seems awfully hard for you to become proud of someone....I was not insulting the intelligence of your offspring, nor yours for that matter.

I am just so proud of Tyrel. I'm proud of all these Jayhawks.

and don't forget, when you have kids and they are growing up and achieving great accomplishments...It's okay to walk up to them, put your hand on their shoulder and say

"I'm proud of you son"

it's really okay to do that. not all feedback has to be negative, ya know.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

"Reed has been a regular contributor for Kansas the past two seasons, helping the Jayhawks continue their stretch of Big 12 championships. A three-point specialist, Reed ranks fifth on the Kansas career three-point field goal percentage list at 42.8 percent. The only player to have started every game for Kansas in 2010-11, he will end his career ranked in the KU career top 10 for 3-point field goals made, 3-point field goals attempted and 3-point field goal percentage. He has been a part of 112 all-time victories at KU, including three Big 12 titles, two Big 12 Championships and one NCAA title."

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

Mature people cringe at an alarming rate when they witness the postings of a lazy author. If you want to text-then drive damnitwit-alone & far away. Your basketball knowledge is hovering around zero. Maybe it's optical rectomistis, which is really a diagnosis of a crappy outlook on life.

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Danny Hernandez 3 years, 5 months ago

I thought Travis injured his ankle against Michigan and not ISU?

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BCRavenJHawkfan 3 years, 5 months ago

The other thing that may be needed is some other shoes for Selby. He seems to slip and slide a bunch and is constatly wiping the bottoms of his shoes. Just an observation.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

i don't think he ties them very well (tight) did you see the close up the last game?

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Daniel Rojas 3 years, 5 months ago

BlownJay...offspring smack? Really? Stay classy buddy :) ...as to ur point I havn't mentioned a replacement? Scroll up and pull ur foot out of ur mouth because I referenced Travis and E.J.? Sorry I don't get real excited about whatever the heck that lowes trophy is....Tyrel's a great person and a great student...just not as good as a player as u all think or wish he was! ...O and I own a Media Guide...I don't need u posting Tyrel's player profile to prove ur point...and btw that 3 pt % has gone down this year...Its easy to shoot when ur the 3rd or 4th option behind the likes of Sherron and 'X'

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jaybate 3 years, 5 months ago

piggdogg.000005099,

Leave my Blown Father alone!

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JHWK 3 years, 5 months ago

-1

How many losses are you willing to incur with your plan of having Travis or EJ on the floor instead of Reed?

EJ, while as quick as any of our players, has shown some TT-as-a-freshman-like inability to make the right pass at the right time. He gets overly energized during critical times and has thrown the ball away. He is coming around, but swapping minutes with Reed in the heat of a Big 12 race is not the time.

Travis would be an excellent option to be a shutdown defender, but for the fact that he's not at 100%, does not have the ball-handling skills, and is excellent for 4-minutes a shot, but has not played extended minutes and needs time to get himself back into game flow. Even then I see his role as a solid backup to Reed, not a better option.

Reed has come up BIG (dogg) in some games where there was a tentativeness on the floor - even among the starters - to take the game over. UCLA, NU, and I'm sure there are others I'm missing when he was rebounding the ball as much as anyone, giving help defense and his hands on the ball to force turnovers. Neither EJ nor Travis has this on his resume.

When it's crunch time, HCBS has chosen to go with players who have experience avoiding being crunched. Reed has had it for 3+ years, and Travis and EJ will get it, just not this year.

Rock Chalk!

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Jack Wilson 3 years, 5 months ago

That would bring me back to the December discussion (and discussion last season) of getting guys crunch time experience as opposed to worrying that such an approach might = a and extra loss or two.

Interesting that Texas has 3 losses and is the king of the world.

I like Reed, no doubt. But as some of these injuries highlight, it would be nice to have guys (EJ and Releford) that are crunch-time ready.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

My foot is in your mouth. And my feet stink too. Like sardines.

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Ron Franklin 3 years, 5 months ago

that was for perropequenito up there

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Tony Bandle 3 years, 5 months ago

What's with the abbreviations and cute "code" letters? Type out your responses like a man. Unless you're about 12 or your the world's worst speller.

Hey, maybe this is jayhawkinnebr and he switched targets to go undercover!!

Sorry, man but when you start treating the regular posters on this site like an ass your going to get it back tenfold.

Go take a stroll back down Troll Lane and go back to Misery or Contucky or where ever the hell you came from!!

No one talks to Jaybate's Dad like that!!!

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Jack Wilson 3 years, 5 months ago

u r rt he shood spel all the wrdz n not uz cod. He mite not b a jhwk fn; who noz?

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Alohahawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Everyone who is a true Crimson & Blue supporter (trolls don't fall into that category, and I don't think you are one), has the right to voice their opinions on this board. The problem is, (just as in the posts by "nebr") your comments appear to be cutting down one of the many popular players on the team. In your opinion, EJ & Travis are better than Tyrel. IMHO, Tyrel has been more beneficial to the team's performance than EJ and Travis (see "blownjays" comments above). EJ has better qualities in some areas (speed and perhaps jumping ability), Tyrel in others (Freethrows and rebounding). Both shoot pretty good 3"s. Unfortunately, TR has been hampered by his ankle injury, so I've left him out of the performance comparisons.

But, the deciding factor for who plays is made by HCBS. All our armchair quarterbacking does is allow us to blow off steam and rant & rave over our own frustrations with the HCBS system. I'd love to earn Self's paycheck, but I'd be lucky to have a winning record, even if I had the talent Self brings in. And I question whether anyone (sorry Jaybate) on this board would fair any better. There are only so many minutes available in a game, so Self allocates those minutes to those players he deems worthy of them.

I believe this debate(?) started because you wanted to vote Tyrel to the bench. It was the manner in which you wrote it, and your inference that Tyrel was completely worthless, that left a bad taste in my fellow poster's mouths. No one enjoys being forcefed something they don't want - witness Muberak's (sp) situation in Egypt - because they don't want someone else telling them what they should or should not do.

No one's forcing you to vote for Tyrel. Those of us who have appreciated his contributions over his career with the Jayhawks will vote for him.

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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

piggdogg..Please don't bitch anymore about Barnes playing XTREME cheap shopping JayBate

Stay classy JB..it's one of the reasons I read your posts.

  1. That was a cheap shot without your usually witty retort.
  2. BlownJay is quite capable to make a real argument without any back-up.
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Mike Bratisax 3 years, 5 months ago

umm..Shotting, not shopping. : )

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lincase 3 years, 5 months ago

One good thing about using ur: you don't have to know the difference between your and you're.

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jessejayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Soobawls, aka jayhawkin neb, aka biggdogg5099. Just a thought on my part.

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

All you have to do is switch users & new email. Gotta be with the Doc doggs up next.

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Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 5 months ago

Where has stupidmichael been also?

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Scott Smetana 3 years, 5 months ago

Soobawls hasn't been this quiet in the past 3 years.... where is he?

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Woody Cragg 3 years, 5 months ago

In bed with jayhawkinnebraska.

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KansasComet 3 years, 5 months ago

Hello Everyone,

First, Selby is fine. Kind of like the new kid at a new school...wait a minute he is a new kid at a new school. Once he gets his feet wet, he will assume more of a leadership role.

Second, I need your help on this one. I have a friend that is a Louisville Cardinals fan. We cannot think of one time that Kansas and Louisville have played? I know we have a lot of KU Basketball Historians out there. So if anyone knows if they have played and what our record is against Louisville, please respond? I would love to have bragging rights, thanks.

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Kurt Eskilson 3 years, 5 months ago

KU's all-time record against Louisville is 6 wins, 5 losses … according to this year's media guide.

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KansasComet 3 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for the reply! Always good to have bragging rights!

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53jayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Louisville Defeated Duke & won the NCAA Tournament in 1986 @ Dallas Reunion Arena - Archie Marshall went down in KU's semifinal game against Duke - KU beat Louisville twice that year - Preseason NIT (which had 3 of the final 4 in it - KU Louisville & Duke I believe St. John's was the 4th team) & in AFH (Louisville had ball out of bounds at 3/4 court with under 10 secs left and threw the in-bounds pass directly to Ron Kellogg (sp) by mistake - I think KU won by 1 in AFH. Freshman Pervos Ellison (sp) of Louisville was the MOP of the Final 4 that year.

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KansasComet 3 years, 5 months ago

Did not remember the Jayhawks beating Louisville twice in '86, thanks! I can't wait to talk to my buddy!

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KU_FanSince75 3 years, 5 months ago

Hello Jayhawk Nation---- hey, off topic----- Atljayhawk posted this a few days ago, but the KU Official Music video, by B Double E ("Red and Blue KU)----I got to have that song. I tried iTunes on my Mac but it wasn't listed under B Double E. Anyone know where I can get the video and/or song? I love that and want it for my collection. Thanks a lot, in advance ---- you guys and gals are the best!!!! Take care.

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KU_FanSince75 3 years, 5 months ago

Wow---it's a small world, ralster! Thanks for the info. I will do some digging.

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Professczar 3 years, 5 months ago

ralster,

Shouldn't that be "Rock, Josh Jayhawk!" ?

Just askin'.

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Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 5 months ago

Note that BiggDogg5099 never once mentioned Brady in any of his comments.

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Martin Rosenblum 3 years, 5 months ago

Or, maybe it was really Brady's sponsor who was trying to work some reverse psyc. on him until it worked and then he faded away in victory.

Or, it was really Roger who was working a similar game to insure the family name/legacy wouldn't end with a below potential senior year for his son.

Or, it was Tyrel who was really playing a joke on Brady, it went too far, he saw how it motivated Brady and he's now trying to pull an auto-self depricaring joke to see if he can pump himself up to be even better than he has proven to be!

(the comments herein are strictly speculative in nature and contain no factual knowledge of their content) .....learned that from counselor jaybate

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