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Wednesday, December 9, 2009

Daughter of Buffalo’s Gill recently began job with KU athletics department

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Jordan Gill, the daughter of Kansas University football coaching candidate Turner Gill, recently began working for the KU athletics department's Williams Fund, the Journal-World learned Tuesday.

Gill, a sophomore at KU, began the job — the duties of which include handling ticket sales for KU Athletics — this semester.

The elder Gill, who reportedly interviewed for the Kansas job on Sunday, is being considered as a replacement for recently resigned coach Mark Mangino.

In the past four seasons as Buffalo's head coach, Gill has gone 20-30, his most successful season coming in 2008, when he led the Bulls to the Mid-American Conference championship and their first bowl game in half a century.

This season, the team finished 5-7, missing a bowl game.

UB players voice support for Gill: One Buffalo player, reached by e-mail Tuesday, told the Journal-World that there would be no feelings of betrayal on the part of players were Gill to land in Lawrence.

“(Wherever) he goes, there will be no hard feelings from me,” he said. “I wish him nothing but success and the best of luck.”

Added another player, also via e-mail, “Kansas would be lucky to get a first class guy like him but of course we would love to keep him here at Buffalo.”

Perkins addresses Williams Fund members: Also on Tuesday, meanwhile, KU athletic director Lew Perkins sent an e-mail to Williams Fund members, acknowledging that the search for a new football coach was under way and assuring he was doing everything possible to make the right hire.

"Please know that we will do our best to keep you informed, though I realize media seems to find a way to share both accurate and inaccurate information – a lot of times before we know it," he wrote. "In my 41 years of experience in athletics, I’ve found it best not to comment on each name that’s thrown our way by the press. So until you see an official announcement from us, don’t believe everything you read."

Perkins was scheduled to be at the National Football Foundation Awards Dinner on Tuesday night at New York City's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, where KU quarterback Todd Reesing was honored as a finalist for the William V. Campbell Trophy.

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cajhawk84 4 years, 4 months ago

I have seen this story repeated on other websites and the headline is always "Gill's daughter recently hired by KU Athletic Department. Irresponsible journalism in using the term "recently' to try to paint some kind of a connection or inference. If the story said "Daughter at KU Helps Pull Gill Toward Job" it would be accurate. The innuendo is somehow her job is connected or maybe a conflict (Lew hired her when they fired Mangino). I find it a bit intellectually dishonest to suggest otherwise.

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Blake Post 4 years, 4 months ago

kackley, that is funny and true.

Now on the serious business of nicknames...

Now I need a nickname for the daughter of Buffalo Gill.
Let's see... hmmmm.... got it..... Bison Gal. Ha... Buffalo Gill and Bison Gal. They ride the flaming saddles, you know...

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4everahawk 4 years, 4 months ago

Whoever said LP probably didn't even know who she was or that she was employed there is a complete moron!

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umpinaslump 4 years, 4 months ago

With a 5 and 7 record, somebody better be pushing KU football tickets next year....

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umpinaslump 4 years, 4 months ago

With a 5 and 7 record, somebody better be pushing KU football next year....

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umpinaslump 4 years, 4 months ago

Wow, guys,

For such a non-article, you are certainly spending a lot of time discussing it. Could it be that the author may have anticipated your need for something to chatter about at this time when there's not so much coach department news? Who needs to get a life?

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babyjay1 4 years, 4 months ago

Sorry, my bad... I get so used to NU fans being complete jerks on our board and quite frankly, that's how he sounds.... Obviously, I read his "name" through a fog and immediately thought Nebraska! Dumb on my part but he's still a pain....

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stravinsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Babyjay1 - Hoosiers aren't from nebraska. It's an Indiana thing.

FYI.

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mueller 4 years, 4 months ago

what is everyone thinking that during his interview Turner said the only way I come to KU is if you give my daughter a minimum wage job selling tickets?

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rockchalkjayhawk81 4 years, 4 months ago

KSA--- you crack my sh!t up.. its like when Jim Rome got online and said he was in favor of his daughter doing porn.. and callers called and jumped all over him,, or when he wanted to start the cockfighting club of america because it was a good venue for kids to go to,, and callers unleashed on him..tell me which resume is stronger

Canidate A Semi Pro baseball player ambulance driver 1 year h.s. coach (1-9) 7 years assistant at a C+ college 1 yr position coach at a A college 2 years coordinator at a A college 1 national championship game involved in 1 ring

Canidate B 28-2 Record as QB of an A college 4th place in Heisman Voting 2 years Professional Football Player Position Coach at an A college for 14 years 1 year Assistant for the Packers 3 years HC for a previously F team, now a C team. 7 appearences in NC game 3 rings

We hired A 8 years ago,,, no previous HC abilities, and 3 years an assistant,,do you people think Gill Played ball in the 80's then traveled the seas untill BUffalo,,, no he was busy grooming,, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost, to me.. 16-23 in 3 years at a program that almost lost its football team,, is pretty damn impressive to me..

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JayCeph 4 years, 4 months ago

d_prowess, I think I like your POV.

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Bill Kackley 4 years, 4 months ago

Why don't you girls quit getting your panties in an uproar. It would be nice to be able to read some searious discussion on the hiring of the new coach instead of the juvenile crap you see on here.

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jayhawkinnebr 4 years, 4 months ago

We don't want Turner Gill. He doesn't have the experience needed to full fill the job.

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d_prowess 4 years, 4 months ago

Can we please schedule a news conference soon so all of this can end? Between all of the rumor and speculation, everyone is losing it. We are writing about where daughters work and posters are arguing over comments that were obviously supposed to be funny. Everyone is obviously on edge and we just need a decision made. We have to have a press conference by the end of Thursday, right?!?

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babyjay1 4 years, 4 months ago

So true Okiedave, so true!!!

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okiedave 4 years, 4 months ago

Gill's kid picked KU over NU. That is significant enough for a short story. Confirms what I heard during the 60's and 70's that many of the Chancellors of other Big 8 schools chose to send their kids to KU. Everybody, even ex-nebraska quarterbacks recognize KU is a special above all others.

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babyjay1 4 years, 4 months ago

Gotta laugh at HoosierHawk... I continue to love how we get obvious NU fans on our boards! Jayhawk Nation is pretty awesome and we know it - even NU fans know it, which is why they're here! Yea, NU is pretty amazing - gotta love those Pelini brothers - NOT! Say whatever you want - hang around KU boards all you want. I'll be Jayhawk forever and proud of it :) Rock Chalk!!!

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JayCeph 4 years, 4 months ago

brooksjjj - I don't know Lew and have no quarrel with him. Why do you suspect as much? Have I said something to make you think I know Lew and don't like him?

My argument isn't even an argument. It is stating that to suggest the two aren't related (to the extent that cars and radios aren't related) is to be blinded by sheer incredulousness.

Ain't to hatin' going on over here. Last I checked, I wasn't the one running around calling people idiots.

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pb88 4 years, 4 months ago

this article has relevance to nothing. KoolKeithFreeze if you actually care about this article then you are an idiot

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Jack Brooks 4 years, 4 months ago

JayCeph,

Your argument doesn't hold up. You say that nobody is suggesting that she got the job in order to lure her father to coach at KU and then you go to say that it's "a pot-sweetener," which means it's part of a lure to KU. So, yes, you and Dugan are completely inferring that it's part of an attempt to bring Gill here.

My point is that her having this particular job is in no way, shape, or form related to her father taking the coaching job here. It is NOT a "sweetener" any more than her ALREADY BEING A STUDENT AT KU FOR HER SECOND YEAR is. It's NOT analogous to having a radio in a car. It's a non-factor. Her mere attendance at KU is the sweetener and no part-time job she takes on campus or anywhere else will make one bit of difference. You and Dugan are seeing what you want to see.

Now if this job was paying some absurdly large amount of money for the time she's putting in, then, yes, this is something not on the level. There is no evidence of that, however.

Just admit you don't like Lew Perkins and your sorry attempt to infer impropriety is just a reflection of that and nothing more. Let go of the hate and you'll live a happier life.

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Mike Tackett 4 years, 4 months ago

babyjay1 to earth. ku football will rock and roll next year. they will be rocked and rolled, by everybody. spirit squad will beat up on them. better enjoy basketball while you still can and keep looking for that brain transplant.

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JayCeph 4 years, 4 months ago

brooksjjj -

"if you think Lew gave Gill's daughter a part-time job pushing tickets (and paying probably $10/hour) earlier in the semester to lure Turner Gill to be the football coach at the University of Kansas, then you, sir, along with anyone else thinking along these lines, are an idiot."

I don't believe anyone is suggesting that this girl got the job in order to lure her father to coach at KU... no more so than Mario Chalmers' Dad getting a job with the coaching staff.

I would put it on par with buying a car. You aren't going to base your decision to buy a car based on type of radio it has in it but, would you buy a car that doesn't have a radio at all? It is the totality of the situation. To suggest otherwise is simple stupidity. It is a 'pot-sweetener' and nothing more. If he (Gill) doesn't take the job, she won't lose hers but, since she has one in the department, it makes it that much nicer to consider.

The fact you have the temerity to call anyone an idiot is lunacy. It is quite acceptable to have differing viewpoints but, if you feel the need to fling unflattering names at people, then I suspect it says more about you than those you attempt to degrade.

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kugrad93 4 years, 4 months ago

Mangino's daughter was a student working in the athletic department when her dad got the job at KU.

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Tony Bandle 4 years, 4 months ago

Kansas Football Coaching position:

PLUSES: New facilities/ $3 MIL salary range/ aggressive AD willing to throw $$$ toward success/ top flight conference/ spotty legacy at best, thus opportunity to set own path/ central location in country allows easy access to mom and dad[well, maybe not this plus]

MINUSES: Was, is and always will be smaller brother to basketball/ lack of continued success will challenge recruiting/ fan base has long way to go before being described as "rabid"/ must overcome hurdles to ascend to elite level/recent tastes of success [Orange Bowl, three other bowls] may set expectations of new coach to unreachable levels.

My point being, the level of quality of the new coach most likely will match the level of attractiveness of the new position. In other words, I don't have a friggin' clue as to who may be coming here!!!!!!!!

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troutsee 4 years, 4 months ago

Aren't slimeballs brainless creatures that somehow manage to survive in the desert?

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woodhawk 4 years, 4 months ago

Yet another pointless report (see: Self v. Williams booksales) from this ridiculous media outlet. Do something better with your time, Doogie. Read a book to a child...or go interview White Owl to see who he thinks the next coach should be.

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babyjay1 4 years, 4 months ago

DesertJayHawk - Lew is a slimeball? Based on this? Obviously, if you dislike Lew, then anything you can find, makes him look bad, no matter what. Have fun hating Lew! I'll have my fun getting reved up for fb season next year!! Rock Chalk!!!

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Jack Brooks 4 years, 4 months ago

Ah crap... I hate it when my sarcasm meter is broken... Touche, KSA. Touche.

My problem is that this little nugget by Dugan makes an inference that many people will readily believe is some evil mastermind plot by Perkins. And, I don't think Dugan was being facetious.

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Rick Arnoldy 4 years, 4 months ago

What an uptight crowd. It’s an interesting tidbit – no more, no less. She had the job before Mangino left – no nepotism to lure Turner Gill what-so-ever. If that’s a factor in Turner’s decision (if he’s even offered), I’m sure it would be a small offered.

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Jaminrawk 4 years, 4 months ago

On the contrary, KSA, I find your theory hilarous.

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KSA_21_3503 4 years, 4 months ago

2 posters so far that lack any semblance of reason or a sense of humor. Anyone else? Hmmm?

I'm being totally serious here. Turner Gill is only being interviewed because his daughter is pulling strings at the Athletic Department.

Completely serious.

totally.

100%

My god you people are stupid.

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Jaminrawk 4 years, 4 months ago

"KSA_21_3503 says:

Jamin:

You probably know this already, but you are an idiot."

Nice rebuttal. I couldn't care less what you think of me but it's certainly funny that you resort to name calling rather than fact stating. It only shows how weak your opinions are.

Is it interesting that his daughter works for the KUAD? I guess. But as I stated before, it really wouldn't be neccessary for her to work there in order for Lew to get an interview and/or hire Turner Gill. She is a student so you know it's a part time position and being a J-School grad myself, I can tell you that often times, the people in the J-School are the ones that help place students into jobs that give them marketing experience. Often times on campus so this really isn't that strange. As far as his daughter getting the interview arranged somehow, I doubt it would take more than a phone call from Lew to the Buffalo AD (which is what is neccessary under NCAA rules) to get that done. But whatever, I'm "an idiot" so I wouldn't really know. Haha.

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Jack Brooks 4 years, 4 months ago

KSA, considering the line of thought you've put forward (can't call it a line of reasoning because there's not really any rational thought to it), I don't think you're in a position to call anyone else an idiot.

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Jack Brooks 4 years, 4 months ago

JayCeph, if you think Lew gave Gill's daughter a part-time job pushing tickets (and paying probably $10/hour) earlier in the semester to lure Turner Gill to be the football coach at the University of Kansas, then you, sir, along with anyone else thinking along these lines, are an idiot.

KU is clearly able to offer its next head coach 2.3 million reasons each year to coach here. A part-time job for their child who was already a student in her second year at KU and member of the spirit squad cannot possibly be the tipping point.

The LJ-World's decision to print this inference of nepotism is the dumbest decision they've made since hiring the Missouri grad who wrote it.

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KSA_21_3503 4 years, 4 months ago

Jamin:

You probably know this already, but you are an idiot.

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Lisa Braun 4 years, 4 months ago

Isn't Dugan a Mizzou grad? I'm just sayin'...

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Jaminrawk 4 years, 4 months ago

KSA_21_3503 - Seriously? Did you miss this part of the article:

"Gill, a sophomore at KU, began the job — the duties of which include handling ticket sales for KU Athletics — this semester."

So you're saying a sophomore, Strat-Com major who's purpose is ticket sales (a pretty intro level position mind you) has authority in the KU athletic department? That is like saying the janitor at Microsoft is one of Bill Gate's consiglieris. Give me a break.

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Carter Patterson 4 years, 4 months ago

My guess is that Lew Perkins and the senior staff had absolutely no idea that Gill's daughter worked their. Its a big operation guys.

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KSA_21_3503 4 years, 4 months ago

Jamin is clearly missing the point. KU did not give her the job to lure Gill. Rather, because she has a job there, she, in an obvious position of authority in the Athletic Department, is pulling strings to get Gill the interview. The only reason Gill is even being considered for this job is because his daughter is hooking him up. There is no other way to justify him being considered with his losing record in the MAC.

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Jaminrawk 4 years, 4 months ago

My thoughts are simply this: why would KU need to give his daughter a job to pry him away from Buffalo University? Does anyone think he would turn down and head coaching job in a BCS conference, let alone one that would up his salary and give him access to brand new facilities in a part of the country he is very familiar with? Yeah, I'm sure his daughter working in the athletic department is the deal maker though. Gill has supposedly already told his player he interviewed, so if he was Lew's big target, why hasn't he been named yet? You would think that going to all of the trouble to get his daughter a big cushy job pushing ticket sales in the athletic department would mean Lew would have brought a contract with him to the interview. I guess the KUAD needs a new policy that any student deciding to apply for a position in the athletic department shouldn;t apply if they are the offspring of any coaches or if they have any family members that can be tied to college athletics at all. Haha. Give me a break.

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sdoyel 4 years, 4 months ago

Wow, what an article! This will win some awards!

Who gives a crap if she works for the Athletic Department?

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hirschtodd 4 years, 4 months ago

I have confirmed from my youngest daughter that cookie monster and oscar the grouch are both no longer candidates. Elmo however IS still being considered.

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JayCeph 4 years, 4 months ago

I don't think this article is about Gill's daughter going to KU or getting a job working at Pizza Shuttle. It is about the fact that she now has a job in the very department for which he is interviewing. If you can't see the relevance or infer what the detractors will say as a result of this, perhaps you shouldn't be critiquing the contents of this article.

There is more than enough data here to support a cause for concern. Maybe nothing more, maybe nothing less... but don't stick your foot in your mouth while you shove your head in the sand. That is just foolish.

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Jaminrawk 4 years, 4 months ago

Christ, she started working in the athletic department this semester. Most likely BEFORE Mangino was even considered for termination. Maybe her dad being an athlete and football coach just might have something to do with her interest in this field? Just a thought. Trust me, the KUAD wouldn't have to give Gill's daughter a job to pull him away from freaking Buffalo. More money and a real conference is enough to make anyone move out of Buffalo.

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KSA_21_3503 4 years, 4 months ago

I guess the takeaway is that we are to conclude that the only reason Gill is being considered for the job is because his daughter works for the Athletic Department. I agree Dugan, this reeks of nepotism.

Now that the truth is out, maybe we can focus on finding a coach with a winning record...

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Randy Eakin 4 years, 4 months ago

Why am I not at all surprised? Lew is a $limeball. This is shameful.

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jhawk613 4 years, 4 months ago

sean payton quits New Orleans NEXT week to come to KU. watch.

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Seth Peattie 4 years, 4 months ago

skip holtz will be the next coach at KU. watch.

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Carter Patterson 4 years, 4 months ago

LOL! What a tough crowd. I appreciate the article. I'm sure this nice lady could have gotten a free ride in Buffalo but instead opted to go out of state to KU. As I remember, Mangino had a daughter at KU when he accepted the job.

Anyway, I'm pulling for the grand slam--Harbaugh.

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Jack Brooks 4 years, 4 months ago

Gasp! A student works part time in a job on campus! It's a conspiracy! For pete's sake ljworld! THIS is news? Have you never called and ordered tickets from the university before? They're almost all students working the phones!

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lv_jhwk 4 years, 4 months ago

Actually, considering all the speculation regarding rumors, coincidences, and lies that are out there, I find this more than a bit interesting. True, shouldn't have any affect on a potential job offer, but interesting nonetheless.

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hirschtodd 4 years, 4 months ago

Really Dugan? This is what you chose to spend time on? Can I the LJW start an internal investigation into the fact that this no talent clown has been subjecting us to cruel and pointless stories for this long? You were actually doing ok for a while. You stopped the "funny guy" routine. Now you might want to actually take a walk to the Hill and drop in on some Journalism classes. Particulary the ones where they teach "investigative" journalism, or how to craft a story. You see...when there is not really much going on...its a GREAT time to do some research...make some phone calls...and write a story. Keegan did a nice job of putting something together that is relevant and informative. Maybe you can buddy up and learn something...anything.

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hail2olku 4 years, 4 months ago

Good for her. I hope she can parlay this experience, combined with a diploma, into a lucritive job in college athletics. Having said that, this news has nothing to do with her father's employment.

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KEITHMILES05 4 years, 4 months ago

Who cares if his daughter works at KUAC. Get a life.

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Eliott Reeder 4 years, 4 months ago

SeI think Doogie's doing a pretty good job of digging up information and all of you guys should apologize for picking on him all the time. Well done Doogster! Keep the random snippets of information coming, we enjoy griping about their potential (ir)relevance...

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