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Sunday, February 11, 2007

Self plays down milestone win

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— The record books will forever show Bill Self's 300th coaching victory came against Kansas University's border rival, Missouri - in a game at MU, even.

"I think winning at Missouri has significance, period," Self said after the Jayhawks dismantled the Tigers, 92-74, Saturday at Mizzou Arena.

"Having it be win No. 300? No, I won't think about it in that regard."

Self, who improved to 10-2 all-time against Missouri, ran his overall record to 300-133 in 14 seasons. He is 93-28 in four years at KU.

"Not much, to be honest," Self said, asked what his milestone victory meant. "I didn't even think about it until yesterday. Five hundred or 600 would mean a lot more. Hopefully we'll be around awhile and get a lot more. You lose 18 in a row (as he did at ORU his first year), and you wonder if you'll just make it to the end of the season."

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Bill Self's Feb. 10 postgame press conference

Another coach in the Big 12, Bob Knight, this year became the country's all-time winningest Div. I men's coach.

"I told our staff I've coached 14 years. If I coach 28 more, we can get to 900," Self said with a smile. "For now, 300 is great."

Comments

  1. jaybate (anonymous) says…

    You'd only be 72, Coach. Haven't you heard? 60 is the new 40. With a few body part replacements and one or two great 7 foot centers, I see you coaching till you're 82. Great win and keep having fun at it. Trust me. You're right. It does beat working.

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  2. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    holy $HIT jaybate, a positive Bill Self comment. Never thought i'd see you post anything like that. Im amazed!

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  3. rockchalkjayhawk4ku11 (anonymous) says…

    ya really

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  4. jross1972 (Joe Ross) says…

    thats the problem...

    some people think you can NEVER criticize a coach. they think if you do youre a "hater". I call it objectivity.

    Which is a good thing.

    Jaybates posts are on target 90% of the time or better, even when he DOES criticize the coach! I take the time to read them--even though they are often lengthy and force me away from my day--and I can tell you that hes analytical and fair-minded.

    Lets just stop equating fair criticism with hating, shall we?

    Congrats to Coach Self who deserves praise for achieving this coaching milestone!

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  5. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    did i say anything about hating? I simply said he had a good, postitive thing to say about bill self, and that i was amazed. I have no problem with criticism, if its actually makes sense. Most people on here that criticise Self say he should be fired, and all that crap. Which is completely not true. Not everyone on here considers them haters, its just the morons that continue to post stupid crap that we think are haters. And furthermore, you and jaybate seem to agree on things 99 percent of the time, which is why i agree with standing up for him. But get my point before you accuse me of hating on him, you, or anyone else!

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  6. Leprechaunking13 (anonymous) says…

    Good stuff notabandwagonfan, everyone calls for Selfs head when he loses but when the team actually listens and carries out what he tells them to do and they crush teams many of those "haters" switch and have a positive comment for Self because they think he's finally coaching how they want him to coach. Geuss what he doesn't change what he coaches day in and day out at practice, the games depend on how well the players carry out what he preaches. Further more most of the "haters" are fans that wish that Roy was still here and for them get over it, Roy is gone and he aint comin back and neither is his style of play. We play Self ball now and Self is gonna be around to ensure we play Self ball for the next 20 years so warm up to Self or become a UNC fan.

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  7. kevbo (anonymous) says…

    Holla back at your bill self.

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  9. jaybate (anonymous) says…

    notabandwagonfan,

    I'm going to consider that explanatory response of yours to jross1972 as being this year's Valentine from you to me. Next year I fully expect you will send it to me direct. You've come such a long ways. :-)

    jross1972,

    This board is rounding into shape at about the same pace the basketball team is. I'm betting that by March 1st, notabandwagonfan will have become such a lean, mean communicating machine that ALL vulgates will have fallen by the way side, much as Julian Wright's game will have been purified to the easiest, most elegant play. Get ready unc, ucla, Florida! The KU Jayhawk basketball team and its best board are peaking at tourney time!!!!!

    Rooooock
    Chaaaaaalk
    Jaaaaaaaay
    Haaaaaaawk
    Go
    K
    U
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  10. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    You know its amazing, you've got about 1 other person on here who shares the same point of view as you, and thats jross. You 2, if you aren't already, should become very good friends in the future. But i think that Leprechaunking13 explained my point perfectly! Its funny how you criticise a man 2 weeks ago and now you are praising him. By the way, you can take that valentine and shove it where the sun dont shine!!!

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  11. 84Hawk (anonymous) says…

    notabandwagonfan, you are right. jbate and jross1972 are "fair weather fans". If the Jayhawks win, they suddenly have good things to say about Bill Self. If we stumble once in a while, it's "fire the man!". They should be best buds and probably are. They should call Digger Phelps. Always seeing the negative of the Jayhawks.

    I am so proud of how the Jayhawks played against MU. The stupid person who decided to piss off our team by playing that video before the game started is probably wishing they hadn't. Thanks for the boost!

    Rock chalk guys! I can't wait to go to Allen Fieldhouse West on the 19th. After the hawks kick some butt in Colorado first, of course.

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  12. jaybate (anonymous) says…

    notenoughlubricantfan,

    Oh MY! You are upset. Imagine my shock!

    In the coming weeks, we'll work through it together. By the Madness, you're going to be able to talk about basketball without vulgates and without your neurotic fixation on me. You'll see. Take my hand You can trust me. We'll walk through insecurity's door together and talk of many things.

    A year from now you will stand up in a meeting room and say, "My name is notabandwagonfan and I'm an insecuriholic. I haven't used a vulgate or obsessed for a year."

    We will all clap and be proud of you.

    And in the coming years, we will be there for you if you fall off the wagon.

    Enjoy the day, notabandwagonfan, it really is quite beautiful if you stop and smell the roses.

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  13. RckChalkJeff (anonymous) says…

    I swear....im gonna stop reading these comments....

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  14. kranny (anonymous) says…

    LOL RckChalkjeff, I'm with ya. The only reason I do keep reading this board is that I know I can get my daily chuckle fix.

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  15. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    good stuff jaybate. I bet you love to make yourself look like a dumbass!

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  16. jross1972 (Joe Ross) says…

    Some things said here I wont even dignify with a (direct) response.

    Keep posting jaybate. Reason always wins out in the end.

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  18. kylecisnum1 (anonymous) says…

    4 weeks to selection sunday!!!

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  19. RalkChalk (anonymous) says…

    Don't look now, but I think that your latent homosexual tendencies are showing.

    Holy crap, I think I have just become dumber because of reading these posts! That is about 5 minutes of my life that I will never get back!

    Can we please focus on the articles here? Playing out your little vendettas against each other is getting a little old.

    Rock on Kyle! Looking forward to kicking some @ss in the tournament.

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  20. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    I'll talk hoops if it doesnt lead to, Bill Self needs to be fired, or Self got out-coached again, or whatever stupid crap you continue to post. Its nice to see how mature you are jaybate, while you continue to bash my name. I hope you and I never meet in a dark alley late at night for you sake!

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  21. jaybate (anonymous) says…

    notasecureinyourhoopsknowledgefan,

    You show the least willingness to talk about hoops of anyone I've ever witnessed. Come, come, it is safe to have a basketball opinion here. No one will hurt you. Talk hoops. I promise I will not let anyone hurt you. Come into the world, notasecureinyourhoopsknoweldgefan, you can do it.

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  22. jaybate (anonymous) says…

    RalkChalk,

    I may have just fallen off the turnip wagon yesterday, but I recognize projection when I read it. If you are having homoautoerotic feelings for me, just say so. I am not homosexual, but I can still be kind and loving to you as one Leo Buscagliaesque human being to another. We can talk guy stuff like basketball; then I will go to my Elks Club meeting and you can go to your room and watch Broke Back Mountain, if you know what I mean.

    Just a little humor there to lighten you up.

    Now, the logical problem with your post is this: you begin by projecting your homoautoerotic yearnings onto me, and then say that we ought to restrain our posts to basketball. Do you see the contradiction here? I do.

    Regarding your fear that you may have just become dumber reading posts, I say fear not. I do not think that you becoming dumber is a serious risk anytime soon.

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  23. jross1972 (Joe Ross) says…

    Ive come to expect such rashness from some posters here. You disagree and lack the self-control to keep it within the bounds of the discussion. the fact that you are threatening physical action says more about you than it does anyone else notabandwagon.

    thats just pathetic and it has no place here.

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  24. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    so bashing someone's name is keeping it in the boundaries? I thought that was taking a shot at me, personally, like he always does. And I really dont give a crap what you think anyways! I never threatened anyone. What are the chances that we will, EVER meet in person anyway, let alone in a dark alley? Maybe 1 percent! In regards to your comment, i think you are pathetic, and have no place being on this board. Im sick and tired of hearing you and jaybate talk about your stupid crap with your stupid reasonings. I deal with you, so deal with me. And if you gotta problem with that, I hope me and you dont meet in a dark alley then either! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  25. RalkChalk (anonymous) says…

    Touche Jaybate. I especially like the dig at the end about me not being able to get any dumber.

    If you think you are "hurting" me by intimating that I am homosexual, well news flash, I am gay! I think it is time that both you and notabandwagonfan calm down a little. As a matter of clarification, I was really directing my ire at notabandwagonfan because he was the most irrational of the two of you, but if you want to throw your hat in the ring as well, be my guest. I believe that there is enough room for both of you...at the bottom of the KAW river!

    Grow up a little, what are you eight years old?

    Let's talk basketball (as most of us on here want to do) and leave the schoolgirl bickering at the door.

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  27. jross1972 (Joe Ross) says…

    Rockchalk...

    I dont have a personal problem with anyone's sexual orientation. If you are gay. Fine. No reason you shouldn't be able to enjoy all the benefits of life anyone else does, and free from any associated stigma at that. So Ill just put that out there. Sometimes people say things in jest, and Im really not sure jaybate knew you were gay. Sometimes homosexual references kinda get thrown out there like "your mama" jokes. No one REALLY hates your mother, but the jokes are funny. Nevertheless, there should be more sensitivity to the perception of the jokes, so there ya go.

    Notabandwagon...

    Here you go.

    "Notabandwagon" is not even your name and so I dont know why youre getting so upset over it. Again, that you can get ticked off over something so meaningless says something...doesn't it? But that's not why I have a problem with you. Hell, many people come on here and disagree with both of us. Big deal. Ive even let some of the derrogatory statements youve made about me personally just roll of my back.

    No sweat. Big bubbles, no troubles.

    Usually physical threats are a sign that you are insecure in an area and have to respond by aggression. And so what if someone makes fun of your name...or mine...or anyone else's. I mean so what? Honestly! Your thinly-veiled threat to do him bodily harm in some off-the-way alley is really grown up, isn't it?

    Oh, you never threatened anyone? Hmm...

    Notabandwagon: "I hope you and I never meet in a dark alley late at night for you sake!"

    If that's not a threat then I'm Santa Claus.

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  28. jaybate (anonymous) says…

    Ralk Chalk,

    I don't believe ridicule hurts. I believe it calls attention to ridiculous behavior and calls it into question. It can be embarrassing, but not hurtful. Sticks and stones, as the saying goes. In support of my argument, you do not seem hurt.

    I was ridiculing you for raising the issue of "latent homosexuality" on a basketball site and then chastising someone for not sticking to the subject of basketball.

    I was also ridiculing you for saying you were being made dumber for reading these posts; that seemed (and still seems) a ridiculous assertion to me, so I ridiculed you for that, too.

    It also doesn't matter who you were intending these ridiculous assertions for. Ridiculous assertions merit ridicule or ignoring. Both statements seemed ridiculous enough that I felt they deserved being ridiculed instead of being ignored. I ridiculed them.

    It also doesn't seem relevant, if you're gay or not. In fact, it is probably even more ridiculous that you questioned someone's gender preference if you're gay. Why? Because if you are gay, you have probably had to live with the evils of this sort of gender prejudice and maligning far more than straights have had to. So: whether you're gay, straight, or bi-, your statements still seem ridiculous ones to me that deserve to be ridiculed, or ignored. I chose to ridicule them.

    Any thing else?

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  29. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    It was a joke jross. When someone responds to me as notasecureinyourhoopsknowledgefan, im going to respond back. If i was to say, i will personally kick your butt, thats one thing. All that was a damn joke. You get over that! I serioulsy doubt that anyone on this site actually knows who anyone is. And for that matter, i really dont care much about you are jaybate. I do, however, get tired of reading most of the crap you write, as well as most other people on here do. You need to practice what you preach man!

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  30. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    also jross, you must have some insecurities as well, because you choose to ridicule peoples comments.

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  31. jross1972 (Joe Ross) says…

    oh okay, notabandwagon.

    youre right. you got me there. Im very insecure...

    Notabandwagon: "I do, however, get tired of reading most of the crap you write."

    You don't need an easy button to solve this problem. Just stop reading it genius! No one is forcing your eyes to read the lines, but I bet you're doing it now. You're a walking contradiction!

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  32. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    so whats the difference? You are the same thing dude! If you dont like what someone says, dont ridicule them. Who are you, God? Im sorry, i didnt know you were perfect! Also, I read everything on here, bad or good. Thats why i respond the way I do to the things that i feel very strongly about. Plain and simple, we dont like each others crap. But im not about to sit back and let you, or jaybate or anyone else say your opinions without responding to them! And you are right, I am a genius!

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  33. jross1972 (Joe Ross) says…

    I love self-proclaimed geniuses!

    For the record, I have never tried to shut you up. Dig it up in my past posts where Ive said just the opposite: free speech should be welcomed. Youll find it there. However, freedom comes with responsibility. Even your "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" can be stripped from you if you display behavior that warrants it. Such SHOULD be the case here (insofar as privileges can be revoked). Physical threats of any kind are an irresponsible use of speech and they should not be tolerated regardless of what you say one way or the other.

    It is not defensible.

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  34. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    I hate self-proclaimed morons! Once again, I never threathened anyone! Just shut up about it, its over. Case closed! I'll say what i want and YOU wont stop me!

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  36. jross1972 (Joe Ross) says…

    I dont care to stop you. Knock yourself out.

    Nevertheless, as you tell me to shut up, I will not! If I do nothing else than to expose you for what you are on this site then so be it. For far too long have people like you gone unchecked when what you've needed all along is a swift response to expose you for what you really are.

    You DID threaten someone! Youre delusional:

    Notabandwagon: "I hope you and I never meet in a dark alley late at night for you sake!"

    And I haven't seen any self-proclaimed morons on here. Obviously this insult is something from the depths of your genius. Hmm. On second thought, if a person WERE a moron Im sure he wouldnt be sharp enough to say it of himself. Hey, if the shoe fits wear it.

    The problem is you think you can throw up smoke screens and make this about something other than your own wayward behavior. Its NOT.

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  37. notabandwagonfan (anonymous) says…

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! F you!

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