Sunday, February 26, 2006

UT fans mock Jayhawks

Worse than Baylor? KU players want rematch


— "Worse than Baylor" is the chant that emanated from the University of Texas student section in the closing minutes of the Longhorns' 80-55 victory over Kansas on Saturday in the Erwin Center.

The students were letting the Jayhawks have it on a night Texas grabbed sole possession of first place from Kansas in the Big 12 Conference standings.

"We know we're not worse than Baylor. They know we're not worse than Baylor," KU sophomore Russell Robinson said with a shrug. "We just have to refocus. After a big loss like this, there's nowhere to go but up."

Robinson said the Jayhawks would love a rematch against the Longhorns in the Big 12 tournament.

"There's always hope. We can still win the league," Robinson said. "It's just disappointing because we felt we were playing so well lately. We were on a 10-game win streak. Things were all going right. Tonight, we just didn't do the things we can do. If we play again, we'll be ready."

Sophomore C.J. Giles also said the Jayhawks would welcome a rematch.

"We're a young team. We were not ready for the pressure," Giles said. "We'll be ready next time. It's something we can learn from. We'll get better as we go."

One young Jayhawk looked like the freshman he is - Brandon Rush, who missed seven of eight shots and had just three points. He failed to score the first half, hitting his only shot, a three, with 11:09 to play.

"It's as poor as he's looked since he's been here," Self said. "But we expect a lot out of Brandon. He has to go through things like any freshman.

"We played young. I was very disappointed we were not tough, especially at the 3, 4, 5 (positions).

The Jayhawks, outrebounded 36-19, didn't play well inside. Texas big man LaMarcus Aldridge ruled with 18 points and eight boards.

"When he's playing like that, I don't think anybody can stop him," Giles said. "He's got a fadeaway shot I don't think anybody can stop."


lisabeth2002 13 years, 10 months ago

How about the great coaching from Self in the second half? It looked like he just sat back and watched the team crumble. Get up off your butt...the boys will see that energy and thrive off it!!!

Andrew Juby 13 years, 10 months ago

Well, it's nice to see it didn't take too long for the Self-haters out there to start coming out of the woodwork.

Nigel Dunham 13 years, 10 months ago

The team learned alot from this loss. I would bet that they learned more and took more from this 40 minutes than they have the entire season. I would also go on to bet that next time we face UT, whether it be this season or next, the Jayhawks will put everything out on the court and it will surprise everyone.

As for Coach Self, I don't bemoan him one bit. He knew the team had to take it's lumps. Better now than in the tourney.

1jhawkr4life 13 years, 10 months ago

Yes nddhawk, i think you are exactly right. Coach Self knows this team better than we do. He also knew early in the second half there wasnt anything he could do except let the team get experience.There would be no reason to try to change things now, this team has gotten itself ranked and primed for a post-season run (or at least as primed as this team can be). Pretty good for such a young team.

super_jayhawk 13 years, 10 months ago

I was one of the many people in my group of old (graduated 1991) Jayhawks watching the game exhorting Bill Self to get off of the bench and get more involved with the game yesterday. Maybe he did think it was time for take their lumps and learn, but I don't think the players can learn as much, and why, without the coach explaining it to them every so often. Players and coaches moping on the bench doesn't teach you that much. (Just ask Mizzou and Baylor)

The previous coach (who some of you don't like to speak the name of) would have ripped a clipboard in half, taken off his coat, taken all five starters out and read them the riot act and explained in very succinct detail exactly what they were doing wrong. Letting the starting five make the same mistakes throughout the game isn't nearly as much of a learning experience as finding out and trying to correct those same mistakes in the same game, wouldn't you think?

(And yes, I am aware that Bill substituted during the game every so often, but not in the dramatic bench-the-five-starters-and-teach-class move that was de rigeur before)

I don't blame the coach solely for this loss, as the coach can't even get on the court outside his box; the players were timid, tentative and didn't have the fire necessary to even make the game competitive. But the coach can transfer his passion, his fire, and his strategy to his players and instruct them about his next trick he plans to pull from his extensive knowledge of basketball. I didn't see that on Saturday night, I saw Bill moping with his chin on his knucles while watching the team attempt blown play after blown play. If this team is going to go anywhere in the NCAA tournament, they will need more fire than the other team on the court, or end up going home.

I know full well that they are very different coaches, but really, I would hope Bill would get a little more involved in the game. Hopefully the Jayhawks can learn from this experience and play beter in clutch experienes (especially the NCAA tournament). This game, being a regular-season game, was at the end of the night, not that big of a deal in the long run. Hopefully everyone, players and coach involved, will learn from the experience and be stronger for it in both upcoming postseason tournaments. This sort of mental lack of involvement on the team's part gets us things like last year's Bucknell game. We definitely don't need another one of those. Ever.

Jeremy Bolinger 13 years, 10 months ago

Everyone who watched the game knows well enough that Texas had that game won from the very beginning. A Roy Williams coached team of freshmen and sophmores wouldn't/couldn't have gone down there and won a game. Mabey a little bit more competitive yes, but not a victory. You people are forgetting that Texas played a dominant game and showed why they should be a number 1 seed in the ncaa tournament. Texas can beat any team in the country, and certainly should beat a very, very young Kansas team. As far as the Bucknell game from last year, thats a completely different story. Is it all that surprising that we lost to them after several close ball games throughout the season, including Division 2 Washburn? I guarantee anyone who is on here questioning Bill Self wont be next season, thats for sure. And if everyone wants to still praise ol Roy Williams, move to chappel hill and root for the man then.

super_jayhawk 13 years, 10 months ago

I wasn't necessarily expecting a win at Texas either, Texas is unquestionably a strong team this year, and has traditionally been for awhile. Sure, this probably wouldn't have been a victory either way, but I would rather see the Jayhawks make a game of it, even if it was still a loss, than get blown out and humiliated like that, and have a coaching staff that didn't really seem to be all that involved. Sure, we've got the Colorado game now to make us feel better, but we definitely don't need to see the things that happened on our part again, as it will likely be season-ending.

Bucknell's game was actuallly surprising, considering KU had actually beaten teams like Kentucky (and yes, Texas) that year. Sure, they weren't expected to go far in the tournament, but to have a one-and-done game because of how badly things went was crushing for KU fans across the board. Texas had many of the same reminders of that same meltdown. That's the point I was making.

How the coach and his staff reacts in clutch situations where the team looks them for guidance has a very large impact on the game. That's why they get paid the big bucks, and why they tend to move around quite a bit, especially in Div I.

People were mad as hell too when Larry left, you might remember. I'm sure they'll get come to terms with Roy too someday. Just remember that Illinois fans probably feel the same way about us stealing Bill. (I've know a few IL fans that feel that way).

I like Bill as a coach, but I don't think he's perfect, and I don't think anyone is. Every coach is not above asking, "hey, do you think you could have done that better by..". That's why we have call-in radio shows like Hawk Talk and message boards like this one. I hope as much as anyone that Bill takes it all the way through the tournament and surprises everyone.

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