Saturday, October 20, 2018

Record book battle: Both Joe Dineen and Daniel Wise closing in on KU’s career TFL mark

Baylor quarterback Charlie Brewer (12) is tackled by Kansas linebacker Joe Dineen Jr. (29) during the first half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Sept. 22, 2018, in Waco, Texas.

Baylor quarterback Charlie Brewer (12) is tackled by Kansas linebacker Joe Dineen Jr. (29) during the first half of an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Sept. 22, 2018, in Waco, Texas.


Long before their final season in Lawrence began, Kansas football’s standout redshirt seniors, Daniel Wise and Joe Dineen, learned they ranked among the program’s all-time best in career tackles for loss.

And with Dineen, a linebacker, leading Wise, a defensive lineman, by 3.0 TFLs, the race to the top, and former KU linebacker Willie Pless’s record of 41 (from 1982-85) was on.

It’s feasible for both Wise and Dineen to complete their time as Jayhawks ranked first and second in the category.

Entering today’s road game at Texas Tech (2:30 p.m., FOX Sports 1), Dineen has 39 tackles for loss on his résumé, good enough for fourth place in KU’s record book and a 1.0 TFL lead on Wise, whose 38 currently place him fifth.

Only Nick Reid (40 from 2002-05) and Jim Zidd (40 from 1977-79) stand between KU’s defensive captains and Pless. With a superb showing, one or both of Dineen and Wise could theoretically vault to the top of the list during their trip to Lubbock, Texas.


Baylor Bears running back Terence Williams (22) is dragged down by Kansas defensive tackle Daniel Wise (96), right, Kansas linebacker Joe Dineen Jr. (29), center, and Kansas defensive tackle Jacky Dezir (54) during the first quarter on Saturday, Sept. 4, 2017 at Memorial Stadium.

So the two of them must talk about this record book competition, right?

“Not as much as you’d think,” said Lawrence native Dineen, who has 4.5 tackles for loss this season and this week was named one of 20 quarterfinalists for the Lott IMPACT Trophy. “I mean, we know we’re pretty close and we know we’re pretty close to the all-time record. So I guess we’ve both got six games to try and get more than the other one.”

Wise, from Lewisville, Texas, leads KU with 6.5 TFLs this year. He has maintained since before the season he wasn’t necessarily chasing Pless’s mark or even trying to hit a specific number in 2018 as a goal.

“Nah. It’s just playing the game,” Wise said, “and it’ll work its way in there.”

After Wise’s 3.5 tackles for loss showing at West Virginia boosted his chances it seems either of the two could end up on top.

So who’s it going to be?

“Hopefully me,” Dineen said. “He’s making some plays now, though.”

Truthfully, both Wise and Dineen are more interested in helping KU break its current three-game losing streak, somehow steering the program back on track before they leave and numerous other team-related accomplishments than they are the TFL record.

Dineen is happy to see Wise, who made two sacks at WVU, succeed.

“Going back even the last six games the lack of production was really more in the numbers than what he was actually doing for our defense,” Dineen said of Wise, who has made 18 total tackles this year. “He was obviously demanding more than one guy block him and stuff like that. But it shows how good of a football player he really is to be able to make plays when two guys are trying to block him. So I hope he can keep that up throughout the rest of the last half of the season.”

Even if that means Wise passes Dineen?

“If I end up losing I’m going to be crushed,” a grinning Dineen joked. “No, I’ll be happy for him, and I’ll be up there as well, so it’ll be good.”

Wise said the two only discussed their chase for KU’s TFL crown “here and there” before the season began, and that hasn’t changed. The defensive lineman also predicted their friendly contest will mean more to them in the future.

“That’ll be something pretty cool to just look back at,” Wise said.

KU's career TFL leaders

No. 1. Willie Pless, 41.0, 1982-85

Tied-No. 2. Nick Reid, 40.0, 2002-05

Tied-No. 2. Jim Zidd, 40.0, 1977-79

No. 4. Joe Dineen, 39.0, 2014-Present

No. 5. Daniel Wise, 38.0, 2015-Present


George Johnston 3 years, 11 months ago

Where did Dineen's figure of 39.0 TFL come from? The 2018 Media Guide says that his career total before this season was 30.5. 2018 Football Cumulative Statistics ( says that Dineen has 4.5 TFL this season. That's 35.0 total.

I would love for Dineen to break the record (no one deserves it more) but I would hate for everyone to get excited about a new record only to discover afterwards that it was an error.

George Johnston 3 years, 11 months ago

My apologies. I found the error. Out of the thousands of statistics in the media guide, one was in error- the one I relied on. Several other pages had the correct career total for Dineen: 34.5.Breaking he record is a tremendous accomplishment.

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