Sunday, December 10, 2017

4-star New Orleans WR Devonta Jason decommits from Kansas

Kansas University football recruiting

Kansas University football recruiting


A day many Kansas football fans feared — and others assumed was inevitable — for months finally arrived Sunday.

Four-star receiver Devonta Jason, the 31st-best high school senior in the country and once considered a five-star prospect according to Rivals, backed out of his nonbinding verbal commitment to play with the Jayhawks.

Jason, a 6-foot-3 wideout from Landry-Walker High, in New Orleans, announced through his Twitter account his decision to decommit from KU.

Jason and his prep teammate Corione Harris shocked the college football recruiting world this past February when during a visit to Lawrence they pledged to one day sign with the Jayhawks.

Harris, a four-star cornerback, announced recently he’ll decide between KU and Mississippi State. Harris is ranked 97th overall in the Class of 2018 by Rivals.

KU never has signed a five-star recruit, which led to rampant skepticism in the recruiting world regarding whether Jason would stick with a program known much more for losing than winning the 2008 Orange Bowl. Throw in Jason’s ties to SEC programs such as LSU and Mississippi State — Florida also recently found its way into the mix, with former MSU coach Dan Mullen switching jobs after the regular season ended — and more doubt entered the equation.

That incredulity proved accurate in the end, as Jason decided head coach David Beaty’s KU program wasn’t for him.

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Matthew Gaylor 4 years, 6 months ago

Hmm, are they realizing how bad KU is or is Tony Hull going somewhere else?

Jack Hoff 4 years, 6 months ago

Amazing we held on to him as long as we did. Definitely hurts. 1 week before early signing period. That’s a bummer.

John Fitzgerald 4 years, 6 months ago

Guess I won’t be doing 1,000 push-ups. Tough day for KU Sports.

David Kemp 4 years, 6 months ago

Beaty just as well hang it up. By signing day he will have nobody left. This recruiting class will sink to lowest amongst power 5 and probably sink into 100s rank.

Jack Hoff 4 years, 6 months ago

Well we picked up 3 recruits today so that makes no sense. The last thing he should do is hang it up. He will continue to work his ass off and if he gets fired at least there will be bodies here for the next coach.

Frederick Heckel 4 years, 6 months ago

Just a guess but I'm sure all 3 are Juco guys.

David Kemp 4 years, 6 months ago

We will see what’s really there on signing day!

Kevin Robert Fest 4 years, 6 months ago

Yeah bodies no talent just bodies. Big deal. Im sure that the next coach can't wait.

John Fitzgerald 4 years, 6 months ago

Would like to see a football podcast tomorrow discussing recruiting. I have some questions and concerns.

Conrad 'Cory' Miller 4 years, 6 months ago

Did he really need to use the exclamation point at the end? I cant blame him. his tweet may as well have said "FREE AT LAST!!"

Conrad 'Cory' Miller 4 years, 6 months ago

I am 100% confident that if David Beaty is our coach much longer we wont even have a Football team to bitch about.

David Kemp 4 years, 6 months ago

Yes how do we build a team with no recruits!

Thomas Green 4 years, 6 months ago

At least there are two guys committed to Beaty...Zenger and Girod. Unfortunetly, they can’t play! I think most of us knew this was coming.

David Kemp 4 years, 6 months ago

Those of us hoping for a regime change new it, the rest were oh ya those guys are coming then you will swallow ur words, uh no.

4 years, 6 months ago

surprise, surprise. best decision that kid’s ever made. lets get a quote from beaty. onwards & upwards! rcjh

Ty Becker 4 years, 6 months ago

Here is the truth: Dr. Zenger was behind the 8 ball because of his disastrous Weiss hire and the millions owed to him and DERP. He knew the donors wouldn't be enthusiastic about dishing out more millions for another coach who might be run out town just as fast as his predecessors.

So he rolled the dice on an unproven position coach because he: 1. Would come cheap and willing to inherit Weiss' mess and "build it the right way" 2. Had a reputation as a passionate recruiter with deep ties in the state of Texas 3. Was widely beloved within the coaching ranks and could build a successful coaching staff that would make up for his shortcomings and allow him to mature into a head coach 4. He would retain Clint Bowen

It's time to realize that while he did keep Bowen around (not a selling point) he hasn't been the recruiter Zenger hoped, hasn't successfully built a competent staff and now isn't even cheap considering his cost per win. Plus with this round of de-commits it's now very likely he will attempt to offer several non ideal JUCO recruits out of desperation and can't even hide behind the "building it the right way" excuse.

I don't hate or dislike Beaty, I just don't see what he does well. He hasn't proven able to recruit at KU (his recruiting classes have been worst or second worst in Big 12), he is a horrendous in game tactician his players seem unprepared, he doesn't seem to be developing talent, his teams aren't improving and aren't competitive.

It's time to move on from Zenger and after this year it will be time to move on from Beatty

Brett McCabe 4 years, 6 months ago

Ty, your breakdown of the hire and the failed era of Beaty is good. I'm going to quibble with Zenger - not you. The most fundamental problem with hiring a position coach was this: he had no staff to bring with him. Zenger could have easily hired: Craig Bohl, Willie Fritz or Jim Leavitt. All of these would have been budget hires. He also could have hired Houston Nutt on a budget. Bohl and Fritz could have brought staffs with them. Leavitt and Nutt would have had the contacts and experience to assemble quality staffs.

Perhaps Beaty's biggest failure was in staffing. While people have focused on Bowen, it's Beaty's relentless tinkering with staff, QB's and play-calling that have been the program's biggest single problem.

Hiring a position coach, who did not have a reputation as a world-beater, put the entire program in a major hole. I don't agree with the assessment that he was a respected coach. A respected gentleman? No doubt.

Beaty had some qualities, as you note, that seemed appealing. The problem was that, for the second time in a row, Zenger forgot about the fundamentals. He went for a big-time recruiter with connections, rather than a guy who had proven he knew how to coach. Zenger doesn't know the first thing about how to hire a coach or build a program. He's absolutely proven this fact two times in a row.

Once hired, Beaty recognized the hole he was in, and went out and bought a newer bigger shovel by micro-managing the offense, his staff and his QB's. And, oh yeah, bringing in 29 transfers and JUCO's. And Zenger enabled the entire train wreck from start to finish.

Dirk Medema 4 years, 6 months ago

The relative worth of the recruiting classes is in part because players like all-conference LT Adeniji was a blueshirt and never contributed to a class ranking. The classes might not be tops in the league but they are moving the roster in the right direction.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 6 months ago

Rankings are consistent among all programs. Every team has its exceptions, special cases, etc. They are what they are. It's factually been proven many times over that, unless your name is Bill Snyder, your recruiting pegs you to three spots: top-third, middle-third, bottom-third. There are fluke years - Florida State this year, or Art Briles early Baylor teams when no one in the conference knew how to defend his strange, new offense. Overall, the rankings are right.

Kevin Robert Fest 4 years, 6 months ago

Well if the right direction is in the toilet then you have a point. So anyone on this board with concrete examples not your opinion that the roster is moving in the right direction. Give me a break.

Joe Norgay 4 years, 6 months ago

The whole Louisiana thing has been a fraud from the beginning- a scheme perpetuated to divert attention away from the lack of Texas recruiting, and to BUY Hull a new contract and Beaty more time. Back in the summer several kids committed, then as soon as Hull got his raise, about half of them de-committed. The rest held on to the commitments long enough for the KU admin to get hood-winked into thinking that Beaty could still recruit better than anyone they could bring in and they kept him for another year. Now that it’s too late, theoretically, to fire him, the rest will one by one decommitt. It’s unbelievable that people as smart as Girod fell for this.

I wish, just for once, KUs administration would get ahead of something rather than be 50 miles behind. I had hope for Girod, I really did. It's a shame he's got the proof in front of him and the power to fix it but that he chooses to sit on his hands.

Brett McCabe 4 years, 6 months ago

I know that I'm howling at the moon, but Jim Leavitt would take this job tomorrow. Willie Fritz might take it and Bo Pellini would probably take it. It's actually not too late. But if Girod can't make the right decision at the right time, I can't imagine he'd come around to it now.

Mike Hart 4 years, 6 months ago

Brett, that's fine to want a new coach, but after all the self-righteousness about everyone criticizing Beaty for running an undisciplined team, etc... you really want to hire Jim Leavitt who was fired from South Florida for striking one of his own players? We fired Mangino for less! You want to hire Bo Pelini? Have you seen how many times he has embarrassed Nebraska with his expletive-laced tirades? Swearing at their own fans... swearing at the media at halftime on nationally televised game... calling the AD a prck and a total "ccksucker". Yes... yes... that's the kind of guys we want as the face of our program.

4 years, 6 months ago

the roster is ‘fine’. we should have had 3 wins. we got one. thats on terrible coaching. how many possessions this year did we go 3&out in less than a minute? more than anyone else, id guess.

Andy Hess 4 years, 6 months ago

not that it matters, but he's a 4-star recruit now.

Chris Spangenburg 4 years, 6 months ago

Wong, he's still a strong composite 5 recruit. maybe one service has him as a 4 now .. but he's a 5* recruit.

Andy Hess 4 years, 6 months ago

Well they changed the title to 4-star, so it looks like I'm right. You insufferable chucklehead.

Brian Skelly 4 years, 6 months ago

By all means, let's keep Beaty and Zenger around. Oye.

Aaron Paisley 4 years, 6 months ago

Jason will end up at Florida now. It's always been between KU and Dan Mullen and now that Mullen is at Florida, Jason will follow him there. I still think KU has a decent shot at Harris because of him potentially sharing the secondary with former HS teammate Mike Lee.

Thomas Green 4 years, 6 months ago

Girod did have a chance to make the correct decision...actually he had two chances. I too agree there is time, but after whiffing twice, my guess is he doesn’t have a clue. He should at the very least be doing a lot of research and speaking to individuals outside the program in an expedited attempt to gain a clue. I’m not holding my breath!

[''] 4 years, 6 months ago

If this coaching staff were to get fired tomorrow, HULL would have an SEC job within 72 hours with a raise. The rest of the staff will be selling insurance or at your nearest used car dealership selling lemons where they truly belong. Our AD will find a D3 school tanking their football program assuring they remain D3 in perpetuity.

Jonathan Allison 4 years, 6 months ago

at least in D3 he won't have to worry about how many scholarships his department is failing to fill.

Jack Hoff 4 years, 6 months ago

Garrett Riley would likely be working at OU with his brother, Meacham would be a OC at a litany of D1 Programs, Perry would be a Coach at numberous D1 Programs, Willliams coached for a legend at Ohio and has a impeccable reputation and could land any number of places. Not buying the car salesman gig. Again folks. When did it become okay to attack people for doing their jobs to provide for their families. I’m sure we wouldn’t want people coming to our jobs then going on Facebook and writing about what we saw for the world to see.

Lance Hobson 4 years, 6 months ago

They need to ease off on 5-stars, KU can’t get them. Focus on 3-stars and diamonds in the rough who can be developed. Guys who can really play but my be just a little too small or a step to slow to attract OU.

Gunnar Hays 4 years, 6 months ago

Agreed. It was exciting to see those top caliber players interested in KU, but its difficult to bring guys like that in to Lawrence, especially with the program being in its current state. If KU was consistently making bowl games and competing against the top tier in the Big 12 maybe they steal a few 4 and 5 star guys each class, but for the most part I think their formula for success is exactly what you said. Plenty of programs in both football and basketball have success without always getting top ranked recruiting classes. I don't have tons of confidence in this staffs ability to do that, but I'd love to be proven wrong starting in 2018.

John Brazelton 4 years, 6 months ago

Coaches can coach, but players win games. With senior leadership next year and big junior class as well, KU will see some progress in the win and losses column. It probably won't be enough to satisfy most fans, but wins make it easier to recruit high quality HS players in future recruiting classes. When K-State and other SEC programs have to poach KU recruits, it must mean that most of our recruits aren't that bad.

Kevin Robert Fest 4 years, 6 months ago

Not the first time you've posted something similar John. Show me the wins next year. Do you honestly think that some highly sought after recruit will even look at KU after 0, 2, 1 and whatever number of wins you think the team will have next year. My God man you are delusional. Wins sustained over years along with bowl games consistently brings in recruits not just a few wins here and there and your line of wishful thinking. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN UNDER THIS COACHING STAFF!!!

Kevin Robert Fest 4 years, 6 months ago

And they went somewhere else because KU stinks or they were good players not only recruited by KU but other programs and they were talented enough to have multiple offers and choices. They choose to go somewhere else. Just because we recruited them along with multiple other programs doesn't mean that our talent evaluation is superior. They choose to go somewhere else after committing, what does that tell you?

George Johnston 4 years, 6 months ago

Could you please define "some progress in the win and losses column"? Since the team went 1-11, would 2-10 be "some progress"?

If the ball almost crosses the goal line, the team does not score a touchdown. If the ball almost goes between the goal posts, it does not count as a field goal. If the intended receiver almost catches the ball. it is not a reception. If a defender almost tackles the ball carrier, play does not stop.

Football is a cruel game: almost does not count.

So why should a coach get credit for almost recruiting players? Almost does not count.

Brad Watson 4 years, 6 months ago

I was for changing coaches and letting Mr.Zenger resign and go to another school...but they are still this is my suggestion....find some developers of talent....we are only going to get the bottom of the barrel recruits with this current staff...hire some motivators....some drill sergeants...maybe with limited football backgrounds to turn the team into raisers...fearless ..passionate is a lot like the military...we need discipline......we need to get back to old school thought about football...excel in the fundamentals...blocking.... tackling...11 hats to the football...its not complicated...its actually quite simple...i will come donate my time to help and coach for free ...because i love our school... bring in people that are no nonsense...we might lose most of the team...because it will be very tough and grueling...but we will find people who want to play that style...we will focus on defense first...if the other team can't can't lose.we want .guys like the kid from Iowa State that play both sides of the not the prettiest...maybe not the flashiest...but football is about toughness...and having an iron play ..even when you are hurt...and gutting things out...old school ways of playing the game will still work...we need that kind of mindset.....and if Mr. Zenger is replaced....please hire a former D1 football coach as his replacement...someone that understands all the things associated with football...a door for the coach to knock on to talk football....I like Mr. Zenger...but lets face it....he doesn't know football like a former coach does...period......we have a great basketball team...the laser focus now needs to be on football ....just an opinion...i love our school..thank you

Brian Zachary 4 years, 6 months ago

I read this site a few times a day and lurk only occasionally making comments. But the hate and vitriol I have been reading is beyond any rational thought. The beating of the horse must end. So, in that vein, I give a quote from Coach Norman Dale:

"I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. These six individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice, to put themselves on the line 23 nights for the next 4 months, to represent you, this high school. That kind of commitment and effort deserves and demands your respect. This is your team."

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