Thursday, October 30, 2014

Larry Brown: 24-second shot clock too short for NCAA

SMU coach Larry Brown sits for an an interview during the American Athletic Conference media day Wednesday in New York.

SMU coach Larry Brown sits for an an interview during the American Athletic Conference media day Wednesday in New York.


Hall of Fame basketball coach Larry Brown of SMU, the only coach to win both an NCAA national championship (Kansas, 1988) and an NBA championship (Detroit, 2004), said Wednesday he’s against shortening the college shot clock from 35 seconds to the pro and international game’s 24.

“I think (coaches who want 24 seconds) are crazy,” Brown said at Wednesday’s American Athletic Conference Media Day in New York as quoted by

“When I was a young coach with coach (Dean) Smith at North Carolina, he wanted a 10-second clock — until he got to the fourth quarter. Our game is ugly right now, in my mind. Too many young kids are playing. Fundamentals are terrible. You look at the NBA, they have a lot of young kids that I don’t think we got enough time with (in college). They come out in one year or two years and fundamentally I don’t think they are sound. I think our game will get ugly with a shorter clock,” Brown added.

Coaches such as Memphis’ Josh Pastner have been outspoken about wanting to shorten the college clock to 24, apparently to increase scoring.

KU coach Bill Self has said he’d “be OK with 30 (-second clock as the college women use)” instead of 24.

“If we were to change the clock, we’d be one of the teams affected most,” Self said. “So much of what we do is predicated on getting the ball to the second and third side. Twenty four seconds is not as much time to do that.

“I think 24 is pretty quick. So much of the NBA clock relies on guys getting their own shot, late clock. I don’t know about our players across the board ... I think it could make for some pretty bad ball, guys playing 1-on-1 the last six seconds of the clock. Thirty would be as low as I want to go.”

Self said he would be in favor of changing the rule to having eight seconds, not 10, to bring the ball past halfcourt.

But again, as far as the clock ... “I sat in on a meeting with the rules committee, the selection committee and powers-that-be that have studied it, studied it, studied it. There is not near as strong a movement from the consensus of the coaches about going to 30,” Self said.

“We hear individual coaches, which I’ve been one of them saying we need 30. This would be better. Why would we have the longest shot clock in the game? Blah blah blah blah. We say those things, but the people who have actually studied it and researched it and done surveys don’t feel as strongly as a lot of the voices.

“It used to be 45 (seconds),” he noted. “That now would seem like an eternity. I think we could lower the clock, but 24 is too quick.”

No threes?: Brown was a popular interview at his conference’s Media Day back in his hometown of New York.

He suggested getting rid of the three-point shot and giving three points for layups.

“Our challenge is to make the game better and I worry about it. I really, really do,” Brown said as quoted by “But I’m 74 and I’m on my way out. I had to walk up the steps. I saw Frank (Haith, Tulsa) jump up.”

Tanking is wrong: Brown also blasted the perception that the Philadelphia 76ers last year tried to “tank” at the end of the season to get a higher draft pick.

“No, I wouldn’t do it. We wouldn’t lose (on purpose),” Brown, a former Sixers coach, told at Media Day. “Brett (Brown, current Sixers mentor) can coach. He’s one of Pop’s (Gregg Popovich, Spurs) guys. But what they are doing to that city to me is mind-boggling. That’s the greatest basketball city in the world with its fans, and you want them to sit back and watch you lose.

“Can you imagine telling Allen Iverson that this is a rebuilding season so we’re going to be bad on purpose?” Larry Brown added. “I love (Nerlens) Noel, I love Joel (Embiid). But you can’t put that stuff into them. Again, it boggles my mind. I understand you have to get assets to get better. You get assets by developing young players, draft picks and moving contracts. But how much teaching is going on?”

European option: Brown is concerned more high school players will copy former SMU signee Emmanuel Mudiay and elect to play overseas a year before entering the NBA Draft instead of being a college one-and-done.

“I think it will get worse,” Brown told Zagsblogcom. “If he’s as good as I know he is and he’s the first, second or third pick in the draft, which I’m pretty confident he will be, I’m worried that a lot of kids will think about it. They won’t think of (Jeremy) Tyler, they won’t think of (Brandon) Jennings, they won’t think of so many kids that have come out early and are not playing anymore. So we gotta address that.”

Mudiay is expected to be a top 2 draft pick in the 2015 NBA Draft after playing a season in China.

“I hear about him every day and I’m excited for him. I am not excited for the precedent it might set but you gotta recognize a lot of kids when they have the opportunity to help their families, it’s tough to pass up but it’s not a good message for young people and hopefully the NBA will address it,” Brown told Zagsblog.


Joe Ross 8 years, 3 months ago

Quick hits: 1. I like the clock where it's at. Coach Brown hits the nail on the head when he talks about fundamentals. To whatever extent you shorten the clock, fundamentals will be sacrificed and the game will get sloppy.

  1. Defections to paying leagues (the D-league, Europe, etc.) are going to increase until you compensate the players in college. College basketball is a cash cow. The NCAA tournament makes more money than the Super Bowl. The college players are generating the cash flow while in the meantime their scholarships dont cover everything they NEED. Im with Jay Bilas. You gotta pay these players.

  2. I love ya Coach Brown, but I love the three point line. It adds another wrinkle to the game and makes it more interesting. Besides, "Mario's Miracle" never would have happened...

John Boyle 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm not opposed to the 3 point line. It just needs to be moved back. It should be a much more difficult shot. Move it back to at least the NBA range if not further. To quote the great Dennis Miller, "that's just my opinion, I could be wrong"

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 3 months ago

I'd be fine with 30 seconds, it speeds the game up enough without forcing a change in style. I also don't have an issue with keeping it at 35 seconds, but anything shorter than 30 would ruin the game.

As for HS kids going overseas, Mudiay is the second top level prospect to do so. Neither Mudiay nor Brandon Jennings voluntarily chose that route, they did it because they were deemed academically ineligible so I don't see this starting a trend of players voluntarily heading overseas. I think it only becomes an option if they have academic issues like Jennings and Mudiay.

Joe Ross 8 years, 3 months ago

Its a good thing academic issues among high school recruits are very rare then, huh?

Suzi Marshall 8 years, 3 months ago

Brown's comments Monday night about the officiating in the '86 Kansas-Duke national semi-final game motivated me to review that game;

Indeed the officiating has terribly one sided. Then I read this Jim Rome article on Bleacher Report about Franzese (

As a Captain in the Colombo Family, Franzese, as a silent partner, started a Sports Management Agency with his booking agent Norby Walters. In '87 Franzese went off to prison and where he supposedly reformed.

The tight timing when Franzese was active with sports and the Kansa-Duke game pieces together perfectly. Perhaps it's all coincidental but the game was so horribly one sided with its officiating, one can't help but wonder. That was nearly 30 years ago but still rubs the nerves, if you are a Kansas fan.

Suzi Marshall 8 years, 3 months ago

Wrong Duke

Worth watching just to see how different Bilas (21) and Piper (24) look with hair.

Robert Brock 8 years, 3 months ago

If you want to go to 24 seconds why not take it down to 17 seconds? Take the defensive rebound, turn and dribble a few times, and just throw the sucker fifty feet at the goal. Fun style, eh?

Maurice Wooten 8 years, 2 months ago

Most people tend to forget that the reason Brandon Jennings went to Europe in the first place was that he couldn't qualify academically.

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