Saturday, April 20, 2013

Conner Frankamp stands out at all-star game

Wichita North senior and Kansas University recruit Conner Frankamp is pictured on Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2012, at Pleasant Valley Middle School in Wichita, where he works out daily with his father, Marty Frankamp. Frankamp said that although he is looked at as a shooter, he is preparing to play the point if needed for KU.

Wichita North senior and Kansas University recruit Conner Frankamp is pictured on Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2012, at Pleasant Valley Middle School in Wichita, where he works out daily with his father, Marty Frankamp. Frankamp said that although he is looked at as a shooter, he is preparing to play the point if needed for KU.


Future Kansas University basketball player Conner Frankamp scored 20 points while playing 20 minutes in Friday’s Derby Festival Classic high school all-star game in Louisville.

The 6-foot guard from Wichita North hit eight of 15 shots, including four of nine three-pointers in the White squad’s 124-113 loss to the Black squad. He had two assists and no turnovers.

Frankamp had 13 points the first half off 5-of-6 shooting. He hit three of four threes in playing just nine minutes. Frankamp also won the Papa John’s “Slice Award” for core values.

Wiggins undecided: Andrew Wiggins, a 6-foot-7 senior forward from Huntington (W. Va.) Prep, tells that he is not close to choosing between KU, Kentucky, North Carolina and Florida State.

“Anyone who says they know where I’m going is a liar,” he said after a Nike Hoop Summit practice session in Portland, Ore. He’ll be playing for the World team in a game against the U.S. all stars. “I don’t know where I’m going, so they can’t know where I’m going.”

Wiggins, the No. 1-rated player in the country, has made it clear he will be a one-and-done player in college.

“He really takes on whatever responsibility is needed,” said Wiggins’ coach at the Summit, Roy Rana of Ryerson University, in an interview with “And this one for him is representing Canada. He’ll have the flag on his jersey, and he’ll take it seriously. He’s such a giving person … it’s not really about him, it’s what he can give to others.

“It’s really his last high school game,” Rana added. “So what better way to go out than in front of 10,000 people at the Rose Garden and against the best in the world on ESPN; It’s a fitting completion to his high school career.”

The game, which will also feature KU signee Joel Embiid, is set for 6 p.m. today on ESPN2.

Playoffs ahead for Jayhawks: Eight former KU basketball players will participate in the 2013 NBA playoffs. The eight Jayhawks — Darrell Arthur (Memphis), Mario Chalmers (Miami), Nick Collison (Oklahoma City), Drew Gooden (Milwaukee), Kirk Hinrich (Chicago), Paul Pierce (Boston), Thomas Robinson (Houston) and Tyshawn Taylor (Brooklyn) — represent eight of the 16 teams in the postseason.

Former Jayhawk Brandon Rush’s Golden State team also qualified, however Rush sat out the 2012-13 season recovering from a torn ACL.

Hinrich’s Chicago Bulls and Taylor’s Brooklyn Nets, and Gooden’s Milwaukee Bucks and Chalmers’ Miami Heat will meet in the East quarterfinals, guaranteeing a Jayhawk matchup in the East semifinals. In the West quarterfinals, Collison’s Oklahoma City Thunder and Robinson’s Houston Rockets will meet, which means a Jayhawk will be in the West semifinal round.

Last year, Chalmers joined former KU forward Clyde Lovellette in becoming only the second Jayhawk to win both an NCAA championship and an NBA title. Like Chalmers, Lovellette, who was inducted into the College Basketball Hall of Fame in November 2012, was Most Outstanding Player when KU won the 1952 NCAA Tournament. Chalmers and Pierce are looking to become the first Jayhawks to win two NBA championships since JoJo White won two titles with the Boston Celtics in 1974 and 1976.


trustyourSelf 9 years, 3 months ago

OK, Wiggins needs to just decide. Where you will spend 9 months is not that big of a deal. He will be the #1 pick next year no matter where he goes.

texashawk10 9 years, 3 months ago

The NBA didn't create the OAD rule to help anybody but themselves. NBA scouts and executives wanted to see these hoops "phenoms" play against better competition so they could get better evaluations on these kids.

The biggest reason a lot these kids fail in the NBA early on is because they aren't physically or emotionally ready to handle playing against grown men. And make no mistake about it, very few 19 or 20 year olds are physically ready to compete against 28 year old fully physically developed men.

If the NCAA cared about anything other than money, they would lobby the NBA to make everybody go to school for 3 years minimum. That would increase the quality of play at both levels of the game by allowing kids to physically develop in college and get used to having a set schedule that also mentally helps kids get ready for the NBA.

I know people will try to rattle off exceptions because there are exceptions like LeBron who was ready sooner. Those exceptions are very few and far between and if you go look at the stats of the HS players who did become stars, most of them didn't become stars on the court until year 3 and that includes Kobe and KG.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

I still think the MLB rule is the best: go straight out of high school if you want, but if you choose college stay for 3 years. College basketball could drop it to two years. I think that's the perfect compromise. For those rare players who are ready at 18 years old (LeBron, Durant, etc), go pro. For the vast majority who aren't, put two years in at college and develop. Gives colleges more stability and NBA scouts more to evaluate on.

texashawk10 9 years, 3 months ago

I used to think a rule similar to MLB's would work for basketball, but the more I thought about that rule the more I realized it would be very detrimental to the NBA in the current state of the media over hyping kids and inflating their egos beyond belief. Andrew Harrison (don't remember for if it was him or Aaron) and Julius Randle saying they could beat MJ in MJ's prime in 1 on 1 at the Jordan Brand game is all the proof one should need of bad the culture of hyping these kids is today.

Making rules to accomodate the very rare exception, LeBron is the only true exception in my eyes who was truly ready for all aspects of the NBA right out of high school, is not the way to solve the and will only hurt both the NBA and college games. If you put a baseball type rule in basketball right now, I would almost guarantee about 15 HS kids a year enter the draft. In the 3 years between LeBron and the OAD rule going into effect, I believe 27 HS school kids entered the draft (9 per draft on average) and I have little doubt that number would increase as media exposure increased over the last 10 years. Just look at how many busts there have been among the HS and OAD players over the past decade because they weren't ready physically or emotionally, in some cases both, for the NBA.

That's why I now believe a blanket rule of 3 years minimum for everybody is the way to go. I'm not naive enough to hold out any hope of this rule ever happening, but I do believe that's the way to go to fix a lot of issues in basketball right now. I also realize a rule like that would end crippling a program because of boosters trying to lure a top prospect to their school knowing he'll be there 3 years, but the ripple effects of a rule like that would only be worth working out if my choice had a snowballs chance of actually going into effect.

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 3 months ago

The biggest problem with the system used by MLB is that it might take several years before it starts paying off. If you're one of the few lucky first rounders, you will probably get a signing bonus somewhere around 1 million. Most players will spend several years riding on buses, playing in small towns for small money while you wait until for your turn in the Bigs. The percentage of black players in major league baseball is at 7.7% and has been steadily dropping as most players want to cash in as quick as possible.

You do however, have the opportunity to play ball in college over the period most players are in either single-A or AA. And as an all sports, if you have major-league talent, your wait will be expedited. I believe that baseball develops talent with their farm system then other sports do with their players.

The big benefit is that once/if you get to the majors, you are protected by the strongest union in professional sports.You have the opportunity to make more money as players have longer careers (on average) than in other sports. It is not uncommon for players to be in their late 30s and still getting big contracts.

aerohawk 9 years, 3 months ago

They can't change the NBA rule, but they could go back to not letting freshman play. That would kill OAD, because no one wants these kids to sit out a year. The NCAA shouldn't give the NBA a free year of scouting. Unless they go to a 2 or 3 and done freshman can't play.

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 3 months ago

Agree..why go to English 101 when your new agent just passed you a $100,000.00 check for spending money.

And texashawk10, as usual, you couldn't be more correct. Jay Bilas stated that "college basketball is a professional sport run by amateurs". They aren't motivated by what's best for the players or for the game but are motivated solely by money.

It's an embarrassment. If I was one of the kids (lacking only in size, athleticism, skills and a few intangibles), I honestly think I would go overseas one year just so I wouldn't feel slimed by the hypocrisy. You would most likely lose in your draft position which I guess is why so many others do their one-year penance.

JHawk74 9 years, 3 months ago

There is no guarentee that he will be the #1 pick. He could be a Josh Selby type player and get a ton of hype and not produce very well in college. Ben McLemore was rated around 40-50 in 2011 and now he is top 5 pick. It takes hard work and talent to become a #1 pick.

Doug Cramer 9 years, 3 months ago

Frankamp - that dude is ALL business. Can't wait til this guy puts on that Kansas uni.

mwmilsted 9 years, 3 months ago

Forget Wiggins. KU has great recruits already.

ccarp 9 years, 3 months ago

3 schoollies to give and the projected #1 pick ... Why not?

texashawk10 9 years, 3 months ago

Andrew Wiggins puts KU firmly in the national title picture next year.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

We do have great recruits already coming in. No doubt about it.

Wiggins would make it much better.

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 3 months ago

I think it depends on team chemistry. KU has maybe it's best class ever. Time will either prove that out or prove it wrong.

Will signing Wiggins contribute to team chemistry as it will certainly have some players spending more time on the bench than in the game? Hopefully, this class will see past their immediate PT and do what's good for the team.

Personally, I think we will be fine without him but better with him..even if only for one year. If Selden stays for a second year, I think that we would have a really good shot at winning it all. There is so much potential talent returning and coming in. We can play large or small, full-court or half and with plenty of athletes to truly make it 40 min. of hell for our competition.

texashawk10 9 years, 3 months ago

Wayne Selden is a 2 year minimum player. Everybody else since the 2011 class except for McLemore is a 3 year minimum player. This has the makings of the 2004 and 2005 classes that ended up winning the title. The only thing this team is missing is a back up 2 guard and a 3rd very good big.

KansasComet 9 years, 3 months ago

Saw the game last night. Excellent shooter. Shoots in rhythm. Does not lack confidence. Defenses will have to respect his shooting ability. If left open, he will make opponents pay. However, he can get his own shot off. I believe he will make other long distance shooters on this team step up their game and let it fly with confidence as well. Surprised when he attempted a two hand slam on a lob pass. He had an off angle and nearly pulled it off, however, the ball got stuck between the rim and the backboard. He can jump, not a high flyer, but he can jump. He was in the 3 point contest and finished 2nd in the finals. He lost 15-13. I believe he had 19 in an earlier round. He should have won, he had at least 4-5 shots that went in and kicked out. I believe there were 5 Indiana, 3 Louisville, and 2 Kentucky signees playing in the game. Syracuse, Marquette, and OSU also had at least one player in the game. Frankamp was clearly one of the best players on the court.

I thought he was an excellent teammate last night. He appeared humble when receiving an award voted on by coaches, and he participated in the dunk contest, by helping a teammate with a perfect lob pass off the side of the glass for a dunk. He constantly touch hands with teammates and encouraged everyone. When he sat on the bench, he appeared focused on the game, almost in a zone. From what I saw, I like this young man. Will be interesting to see how he fits into Coach Self's plan?

REHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the firsthand account, KansasComet. I watched Conner win the 3 pt. contest (in Atlanta?) a few weeks ago. Amazes me that he did not win this one, too. The kid's stroke looks like a well-tuned machine. That word FOCUSED seems to fit him to a T.

KansasComet 9 years, 3 months ago

Thanks, I was in Atlanta as well. The young man has great footwork to get himself open.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 3 months ago

Comet .. Great info. Did Frankamp play the point? What did you see regarding his ball handling?

KansasComet 9 years, 3 months ago

He did indeed. His teammates looked for him off most change of possessions, and he brought the ball up court on most possessions. More of a two guard, but I believe he is capable of playing point. He surprised me how well he finishes at the rim, never got caught from behind.

Decent ball handling skills, he did get stripped once in the backcourt. However, he looked comfortable with the ball in his hands. Being an All-Star game, there was not much double-teaming, so it's hard to say how he will handle that. He is a very confident kid and did very well against the guard that is going to Oklahoma State.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Great info. The biggest question mark will be his defense. Do you think he will be D-1 ready right away on the defensive end?

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 3 months ago

You can really tell when a player is on. When I looked at the stroke when Ben is hitting and compare it to White, Greene, Selden and Conner, they all have good footwork and a concise shooting form. Greene and White have very similar shooting styles, especially when they are shooting in rhythm.

So much potential...

Suzi Marshall 9 years, 3 months ago

I also really like ths kid but not holding out any grand expectations for him to be a major contributor next year or perhaps even his second year. Last night, last summer's U17 international event, and Wichita HS BBall are a long way from elite D1 compitition. He lacks size and defensive skills. We all saw a great tallent like Ellis, who adapted late in the season, struggle to adapt, The kid does have the heart for the game, which goes a long way.

Ian Emerson 9 years, 3 months ago

Considering Kentuckys recruiting class I think not having Wiggins will, in the long run, make our team so much better. Kentucky is the team to beat this year but next year of wayne stays we will mos def be the most talented and cohesive team in the country.

REHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

My take on Wiggins: A competitive program goes for/with the best talent available for immediate time and action. The year 2014-15 is a long way off, with many possible injuries or defections lying in the path of progress and development, not to mention other potential Top 10 recruits who might wish to sign on to replace Wiggins in the Jayhawk lineup. People in the know have claimed that Andrew Wiggins is the most potent player to come along since LeBron James. I would recruit that player until the very last second of his decision making process.

REHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Andrew Wiggins could very well represent the very birthsites of the game of basketball: Canada and the University of Kansas. Just imagine such an introduction in a dozen or so years of NBA All-Star games. One year in Lawrence and that player represents Jayhawk Basketball throughout quite possibly a storied career in professional play on the world stage. Bill, bring him home!

Jesse Johnson 9 years, 3 months ago

Naismith is from Canada though, so there is somewhat of a connection, just not the birthplace.

Dale Kroening 9 years, 3 months ago

For those thinking Conner is a redshirt possibility, no way you redshirt this kid. He's doing this against the top HS players in the country. No it isnt college players, but still. Look what he did in the U-17 championships. Cant wait to see him step on the court.

Boouk 9 years, 3 months ago

Tom Keegan predicted Frankamp will start next year alongside Seldon and Tharpe in the backcourt if we don't land Wiggins.

jhox 9 years, 3 months ago

Offense will not be a problem. The only question is will he be able to defend well enough for Self to be comfortable playing him. We all know Self doesn't just talk about defense, he demands it. No question he'll be one of our top 5 offensive players. He won't be redshirted. If he can defend he will play a lot and maybe even start.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Wait, people are saying Conner is a redshirt possibility? Are they high? How about we redshirt Tharpe, too, and have one of the student managers play point.....

LAJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

And before anyone says it, yes, Conner is more of a natural 2, but if you don't think he will be needed to back up Tharpe at the point.... I have no idea what you think this team is going to do next year....

Perhaps Mason will break out, but... come on... red shirt Conner? WTF??

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 3 months ago

Agree with everything except Conner being a more natural 2. I no longer live in Kansas so maybe you have access to more information than I have but in every article that references him, it is prefaced with PG.

Not saying that you're wrong but would appreciate any additional information.

texashawk10 9 years, 3 months ago

He's listed at PG because he is 6' tall. His skill set is closer to a 2 than a 1, but he's played enough PG at high level events like the U17 World Championships that he should be fine running the point for Self.

Alex Peekeaton 9 years, 3 months ago

I wouldn't compare coming off the bench running the point guard at the U17 World Championships to NCAA division 1 considering the US team won each game by 35+ points.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

texashawk summed it up pretty well. His style of play has been much more a 2 throughout HS, but he's been preparing heavily to play point going forward, because... well, he's going to need to play PG going forward. He will absolutely be a PG for us next year and the years ahead.

I was just looking to cut off any argument that might come that he's more of a two, so he should redshirt. That's absolutely asinine and way, way incorrect.

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 3 months ago

I haven't seen anyone suggest that but if so, you're absolutely right. No way would HCBS redshirt him. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the starting PG at some point next season.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 3 months ago

Bull crap! Conner's NOT going to start at PG next season AND I SERIOUSLY doubt that he's thought of as the long-term solution at PG either. Otherwise, why all the reports of ALL of the topc2013 & 2014 PGs being recruited?! Despite any negative vibe you might get from my take, I still see him as the 1st G off the bench.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 3 months ago

"Anyone who says they know where I’m going is a liar" Read that line and learn it all of you who keep saying he's definitely coming here.

jhox 9 years, 3 months ago

I still think he's a Kentucky lean. Money talks.

FearlessJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

If its not that big a deal where Wiggens goes, why doesn't he go to a division three NCAA team and just have fun ripping everybody up.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 3 months ago

Maybe Andrew is more competitive than just wanting to beat up on some underskilled players? Maybe he's not just interested in winning the most games, or being the BMOC? Maybe he is interested in learning to play great D? Maybe he is interested in a great conditioning program to make him more physically prepared for the next step? I seem to recall him mentioning during his visit how great he thought Hudy's training program was, and we all know Coach is one of the D-masters.

nuleafjhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Sorry to hear Frankamp did so well in the all-star game. Now his rivals ranking will probably drop to about 45.

Jim Jackson 9 years, 3 months ago

Anyone know who else we are targeting for this year's class? Any 5th year immediately eligible guys? Jucos?

Kye Clark 9 years, 3 months ago

Kind of surprised the site never does an article on the Barnstormers games. I went to the game last night in Wichita, and it was pretty sweet. All 4 seniors showed up, and rounding out the regular line-up: Connor Teahan (he was technically the coach, and they let some little kids actually "start"). It was evident how tight this group was. All infectious smiles all night long from the players. Fans cheering "fear the 'fro!" for KY. Kevin definitely provided the most highlights with an assortment of dunks. Withey potted a couple of threes and strolled back down the court styling them. At halftime they auctioned off a few items, the most interesting being a prop from their Harlem Shake video that they all signed. Very cool event. I'd encourage any Jayhawk fans who have a chance to attend one of these to do so.

First year that we've been that the opposing team didn't have any former Wichita State players. Maybe they feel that with their recent success they shouldn't be participating in the game and playing second fiddle to the Jayhawks. Last year Joe Ragland and Toure Murry were there.

Only downside was this year there was so much interest (likely due to the high-caliber and number of seniors) the autograph line was so long we chose to skip it in favor of grabbing a seat. The event planners clearly over-sold the tickets, as it was packed and many were left to watch the game standing on the track overlooking the court.

Thanks for the memories guys. You left your mark on the program and will always be fondly remembered in this fan's mind.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 3 months ago

Why do an article when ict gives us all we need to know? Thanks for the "reporting."

Kye Clark 9 years, 3 months ago

I guess to maybe get some quotes and pictures?

Should have taken my old press badge!

Dirk Medema 9 years, 3 months ago

Conner reminds me of Kirk Hinrich, hough there are obvious differences. Does anyone remember where Kirk was ranked coming out of HS? I can't find records going back that far.

Jesse Johnson 9 years, 3 months ago

Haha, I read your post right after reading ichtawkfan316's post about the barnstormers and so I was thinking Connor Teahan when you said Conner. I was like, umm, about the only similarity between Hinrich and Teahan is their height and skin color. LOL.

dustfan 9 years, 3 months ago

I don't remember exactly where he ranked. I'm pretty sure he was rather highly regarded though. I remember Iowa & Iowa St. being pissed that he and Collison both chose KU. Kirk was good right off the bat. He actually schooled Jay Williams in the Duke tourney loss his freshman year (Duke was 1 seed, we were 8 seed iirc). But the refs gave Williams all the calls.

idahawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Its not the money for Wiggins.....he will be rich enough soon enough. If it were only about $$, he would go overseas for a year and make a million or so.

I could see him going to Cals World, which would make an absolute mockery of college athletics, but I think we have a good shot at landing him if we change the name of "Naismith Drive" to "Wiggins Drive" and commission a statue of Andrew to be prominately placed in the new wing of Wiggins Fieldhouse next to the Original Rules.

SilverfernJay 9 years, 3 months ago

Dagger. Closest I can find rated Kirk the #62 recruit (RSCI)

Dirk Medema 9 years, 3 months ago

IMO, that bodes well for another gym-rat, white-boys can't jump, coach's son like Conner.

Ian Emerson 9 years, 3 months ago

I always hate the coach cal talk about money. Most of his recruits are one and done and will be making millions. Wouldn't it be the boosters giving money anyways?

kranny 9 years, 3 months ago

Defense will be key for playing time for Frankamp.

Michael Luby 9 years, 3 months ago

Wiggins is going to Kenstinky. Gut feeling. end of story. The point blank denial in his statement says that's where he is going.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 3 months ago

Hmmmm .. I'm beginning to think (not getting giddy, mind you) that Self showing Adams the door had a bit to do with what he had coming in, and what he has. White, Frankamp, and Greene are all potential 4 year players, and Selden likely at least 2. Why waste time, energy, and effort on a potential disruption?

How great would it be if Frankamp is as good as it is appearing, and he can cut it as a point guard behind Tharpe?

I will be floored if Self starts Frankamp and Tharpe, mainly because of the size deal. I would doubt that he starts two guys at or under 6'0". If Self thinks "our little guards" got "beasted" by OSU this season .. yikes. But I always wonder on info from guys like Keegan .. they may not "report" it, but perhaps they "hear" it off the record from a coach.

Tharpe, Selden, White starting on the perimeter with Frankamp and Greene off the bench has the makings of a dynamic five man rotation with the shooting skills necessary to overcome some potential post questions. Some have suggested Greene might be better than White .. if he is, so be it. Our five rotation guys could be our five rotation guys for the next two years, and then sub Mason for Tharpe once Tharpe graduates, or a top recruit.

I think we'll be real happy with this group of perimeter players come January/2014.

joshuamc914 9 years, 3 months ago

I just don't understand why Frankamp is always slighted smh. I feel as if people don't watch himnay and view his appearance and say he can't ay and discredit him. Wheneva he play against the highest competition he always does well and it always seems to surprise people for reasons I don't know. He has consistently delivered no matter the stage he has been on. Also, I'm not going to rule out he won't start at all next year. Why everyone is in love with Tharpe. He is a guy who isn't a good defender and lacks strength. There were alot of games where he was terrible on defense, you could've got a traffic cone out there and did a better job stopping penetration. People say that Frankamp isn't strong enough or a good defender Tharpe is the same liability. Why people are handing the job to Thatpe who was so inconsistent all year long and would continue to make bad decisions I just don't know why. Next year every position is up for grabs and those practices should be fun next year would love to be a fly on that wall.

Hawk8086 9 years, 3 months ago

Tharpe has continued to show improvement, although he is still inconsistent. He did show the ability to get in the lane, find the open big man, hit the 3. Yes, he had some bad games. Having 2 years of experience and knowing the system gives him a big advantage over any freshmen coming in. History tells us that the more experienced player has a big advantage over someone new coming in. While I hope Frankamp plays a lot, there is no way that he starts at the point over Tharpe.

Joe Baker 9 years, 3 months ago

I especially liked how Tharpe handled the pass from EJ against Michigan. EJ choked and failed to finish on the baseline. Then Tharpe was either surprised that EJ fired a pass to him, or he just didn't know how to finish. I'd like to think that Greene and Frankamp would've finished or stepped into that shot and dropped it like a bomb. KU wins the game. Our point guard play was so...well, moving on.

Needless to say, Tharpe has some proving to perform his junior year, maybe some consistentency? I think pg is wide open. Folks, if Thapre has another year like this past year, Frankamp or Greene will gladly step in and produce. I think Frankamp and Greene are going to be the most competitive and hungry every game on the perimeter. Their IQ is among the highest in the game. I see Mason redshirting and coming in his soph year hungry. If we get wigs, Tharpe and Frankamp will be our pgs. I see Mason and Greene possibly redshirting. But, Greene can play pg and would be a great big option at pg, 6-7, almost 6-8. Many think he'll back Perry, possibly for O (Traylor D). He'll stretch many defenses if he steps in ready to play. Has anyone seen Greene's vids? Please review his ball skills. I'd love to see Greene, Selden, White/Wigs, Perry/Traylor, and Lucas/Embiid. Imagine 6-7 pg, 6-5, sg, 6-6,7 sf, 6-8 pf, and 6-10, 7' C. This is an 8 man rotation, Self's fav rotating number.

But, you're probably right. Tharpe will be EJ and Self will stay with Naa no matter. Unless he gets so fed up with Tharpe and yanks him TT style. I remember Self would leave Sherron in and let him make a big azz of himself on the court so long, that Sherron would redeem himself eventually.

hawkmoon2020 9 years, 3 months ago

Really struggling with why Wiggins hasn't picked a school yet, because it seems he already knows exactly what he's getting from the teams on his list now. What could change between now and his decision date? I guess he'll choose who he chooses, and let us know why eventually. 'Nuff said.

And who can't get excited with our current returnees and incoming recruits? Lots of young talent that will no doubt make us cheer and cry for a number of years. Could still use another impact PF in my mind, but it is interesting to predict the "outside guys looking in" when it comes to the ultimate (8-9 man) rotation. I think Mason is the only one who misses the cut for this year, but then very limited min. have to go to CF and Embiid . . . and I hate to say that!

texashawk10 9 years, 3 months ago

Wiggins has been busy playing in 3 all star games the past few weekends and that's a significant time committment considering those games were in Chicago, Brooklyn, and Portland. Now that his all star game season is done (I think), he will have time to figure it out and make his decision. He has his in home meetings with Self, Roy, and Hamilton next week and I'm guessing he makes his choice within a week of his meetings with those 3.

KemDooKU 9 years, 3 months ago

Wiggins is staying all four years in college - he don't know it yet so I can't tell him that he is - and Conner better be good at defense or he is another AW - all shoot and no stoppy stoppy defender ........ Peace out

Micky Baker 9 years, 3 months ago

In other news, Kansas baseball moves into second place, 1 game behind the Sooners.

REHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Embiid showed some good stuff this eve in the Nike Hoops Summit game, U.S. 19 and under vs. international age group players. Still gets lost occasionally, but playing super basketball for a 3rd year player. Fran predicts that by midJanuary he will be a load. All announcers seemed to concur that by his soph season JoJo will be a real stud. I think he hit 5 of 6 freethrows. Looks to be a kid who quickly steps into Withey's finishing shoes.

JayHawkFanToo 9 years, 3 months ago

I watched parts of the Nike Summit game. Embiid ended up with 7 point on 1of 2 shooting and 5 of 6 from the free throw line; he also had 2 assists, 1 blocked shot, and 7 rebounds.
The USA team looked pretty much the way I think UK will look next season, a group with me-first superstars that did not play like a team. On the other hand, the International team looked like it had been playing together for a long time, very unselfish, great passing and very efficient and basically schooled the more talented American team.

Alex Peekeaton 9 years, 3 months ago

Why would you think the Americans were the most talented team? Because you've never heard of the International players? Jean-Charles and Schroder will both be drafted in 2013 if they decide to enter the 2013 draft, Wiggins is top overall pick in 2014 draft, and Karasev & Jaiteh are projected late 1st rounders in 2013 draft. US lost this game on the boards - out rebounded 50-35 for the game. Why the US team didn't select any Centers (Dakari Johnson???) for this game is beyond me. Regarding next year - both Andrew Harrison & Julius Randle will dominate the college game.

REHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

IMHO, Harrison and Randle will be superstars. But I would take Schroder and Jean-Charles over them...or Schroder and Jabari Parker. If Harrison and Randle can quickly exchange swagger for bonafide team play, they will become crucial pieces to steer the Wildcats back in contention. If not, Kentucky looks to be headed toward further disarray, although with much more potential to right the ship. I think it will boil down to attitude adjustment. Randle and Harrison look to be in too much of a hurry to place their names in the highlights. When the going got tough, Schroder, Jean-Charles and Parker kicked their efforts into overdrive. I enjoyed the fact that the international team coach reinserted Embiid into the final minutes of the game after Parker got his easy dunk. You are probably right-on regarding Dakari Johnson's missing presence. That was a crucial missing piece for the U.S. squad.

Alex Peekeaton 9 years, 3 months ago

No way do you take Schroder over Andrew Harrison - I guarantee every college coach/NBA GM would say the same. Same with Randle - not one would take Jean-Charles who is currently a 2nd round pick. Personally, I think Jabari Parker is soft at 6'8 and would take Randle's power over Parker's finesse every time. Kicked into overdrive??? You mean after Jabari made 1 of his first 9 shots he started to make a few??? He ended up shooting 10-23 from the field.

REHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Though JoJo earned only one block from the scorer last night, he certainly did affect action beneath the basket. Randle chose not to challenge him in the manner of the Jordan game. He is, already, a major presence in the paint.

joshuamc914 9 years, 3 months ago

I'm just not as sold on Thatpe as everyone seems to be he is either really good or really bad. His shot selection sometimes just makes me scratch my head. I believe he'll start the year but will he remain there I'm not quiet sure he has to be consistent. And let me say this Brannen Greene will get minutes as a freshman and he will be playing the wing. He can flat out shoot it and he can st buckets. He is definitely not red shirting he will be the backup or starting wing his battle with AWIII is interesting to me winner wil start. I believe the lineup will be Tharpe, Selden, GReene/AWIII, Ellis, Embiid. And on another note that Kentucky team will e good no coach is better at managing me first guys like Calipari. You can say what you want about him being a sleez or shearing whateva but he an recruit and manage egos. To say that Kevtucky will be a me first selfish team isn't accurate at al look what he Du two years ago give him credit. I hate the homers that don't give other coaches credit man there are other good coaches out there even tho I think Self is the best. But, it's ok to give other coaches credit.

Ian Emerson 9 years, 3 months ago

Lets be honest. The moment Naa hit the game winning shot against OKST he solidified his spot as Selfs favorite and Point guard next season. He's got ice in his veins dammit!

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