Originally published April 7, 2013 at 12:18a.m., updated April 7, 2013 at 10:48p.m.

KU basketball notebook: KU-Syracuse recalled; Scot Pollard kills it

Former Kansas University basketball big man Scot Pollard appears in the independent horror flick, "Axeman at Cutter's Creek."

Former Kansas University basketball big man Scot Pollard appears in the independent horror flick, "Axeman at Cutter's Creek."


Today marks the 10-year anniversary of Kansas University’s 81-78 loss to Syracuse in the finals of the 2003 NCAA Tournament.

The final game of the Roy Williams era at KU is probably best remembered for three things — four if you count Williams’ postgame “I don’t give a (bleep) about North Carolina” quote to Bonnie Bernstein.

They are:

• The Jayhawks’ 12-of-30 free-throw shooting.

• Freshman Gerry McNamara’s six three-pointers in the first half (he didn’t score the second half) that staked the Orange to a 53-42 lead in the Superdome in New Orleans.

• Hakim Warrick’s block of a possible game-tying three from the corner by Michael Lee with 1.5 seconds remaining.

“I didn’t know it was blocked. All I was doing was looking at the rim. Then I heard the crowd go, ‘Whoa!’ And I looked up and saw the ball was coming back in from the third row,” Lee, assistant coach at University of San Francisco, told last week.

“I have no idea how Warrick got a hand on that shot. He made a perfect play,” Lee added. “Every time I think about that game, I think about that shot. Because I think I lost the game for us by not getting that shot off and putting us into overtime.”

Lee, who played for both Williams and Bill Self at KU and worked on Self’s KU staff, added: “I can talk about it now, but at the time I was out of it. I was out of it for at least a couple of months. That was devastating. Everybody was saying, ‘It’s not your fault. We missed all those free throws. Blah, blah, blah.’ All I know is that at the end of the day I had the chance to be the hero, so to speak, and I didn’t do it. Outside of my family and my teammates, I tried to avoid people as much as I could.

“You know, we went into that game saying, ‘Let’s make history.’ Now I joke with people that I’m on the wrong side of history. I get my recognition for getting a shot blocked. I’m famous in Syracuse for all the wrong reasons.”

McNamara, now a Syracuse assistant, reflected on the title game to

“I got a couple of easy ones early,” McNamara said. “The first one was right on the line, it was straight downhill, made it. The second one was pretty similar, from there on out, once a shooter gets his touch going, it’s tough to slow him down. I took my chances, and they happened to go down. The reason they went down is I got the good looks early.”

For KU, Nick Collison had 19 points and 21 rebounds, Keith Langford 19 points, Jeff Graves 16 points and 16 boards and Kirk Hinrich 16 points and four assists.

Scot Pollard the actor: Colorful former KU forward Scot Pollard is one of the stars of the independent horror movie, “The Axeman at Cutter’s Creek.” Pollard plays the role of the lead character — a homicidal killing machine named “Axeman.”

The 6-foot-11, 270-pound Pollard, who played at KU from 1993 to ’97, tells that his Axeman is “a killing machine — big and scary-lurking in the shadows.”


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Former Kansas University basketball big man Scot Pollard appears in the independent horror flick, "Axeman at Cutter's Creek."

Pollard said the character has “no joy, no pain, nothing inside him driving him except that primitive need to kill.”

Blog writer Rickey Russell notes that “this is a role that is suited to Pollard, who considers himself to be big and scary and perfect for the part, a sentiment echoed by (director) Joston Theney, himself having come across Pollard when searching for the perfect person to play his methodical monster — a legend in terror that is sure to bring new life into the mythos of the slasher.”

Budding actor Pollard also played “El Monstruo” in the horror anthology “Barrio Tales (2012).”

“I have always had an acting bug,” Pollard told “I was in plays in elementary school, junior high and high school when I could be. During my career in basketball, I did many local shows where I would do things outside of the sphere of basketball, but for whichever team I played for. Most notable of these would be a series I did in Boston for the ‘Celtics now’ program called ‘Planet Pollard.’ All of the episodes are now on YouTube. In addition, through my website,, you can view additional footage of Scot Pollard being goofy in front of a camera. Not exactly DeNiro, but I do enjoy the camera.”

Asked what attracted him to playing a “brutal slasher killer,” Pollard said: “After being contacted by Joston Theney regarding this role, I got excited. His energy is truly catching. I caught it and he made me go from being a basketball player ham into someone that at least can attempt to pull of a role. I still do not consider myself an actor, but playing this character allowed me to touch on some darker sides of my personality, which actually turned out to be VERY therapeutic. I really enjoyed laughing and joking with my cast mates off camera, and then flipping the switch into cold blooded bastard while taking care of business.”

Pollard’s interview is available here.

Not going to Hofstra: KU assistant coach Joe Dooley and Iona head coach Tim Cluess have both turned down the Hofstra head-coaching job, Jeff Goodman of reports.


Lance Hobson 9 years, 8 months ago

April 7, 2003. The day Boot Das and Salty Watkins were killed in Iraq, the day KU lost. Not one to relive. We did miss those free throws but the comback effort was of such effort I could sense the intensity through the TV. Syracuse missed a lot of free throws, too.

jhox 9 years, 8 months ago

I was sitting in one end zone and watched McNamara hit 3 after 3. He was coming off screens full speed, hitting shots from 23 or 24 feet, his body floating sideways as he released. An absolute nightmare.

While I would like to say he just got lucky, he proved in his college career that he was that kind of shooter.

Then there was Collison's nightmare night at the line. I also recall all of the talk surrounding Williams and Carolina, all weekend. Roy definitely let that become a distraction for the team. I always felt he should have just lied. He should have stated publicly that he had no interest in the Carolina job. He later could have said he just didn't want it to be a distraction for his team, and I could have forgiven him for lying. It was a lot tougher forgiving him for letting it become a distraction. Minus that distraction, we probably win the game. It was pretty clear he was leaving. All he talked abou all week was Nick and Kirk, never a mention of the under classmen, as if he was tring to distance himself from them emotionally. I knew it was coming. What I didn't know was that in the long term he was doing us a favor. Still, I wish that 2003 championship trophy was in Allen.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 8 months ago

Since some people still criticize Roy for lying back in 2000, why would lying have been any better in 2003?
I hate to say it, but you don't know he was doing us a favor. He's won twice at Carolina and would have continued his winning ways at KU. Sure, Self is great, at least Roy's equal, but I get a little tired of the he did us a favor by leaving talk.

Lash 9 years, 8 months ago

Ol Roy did us a favor by leaving: 1) we got a coach that emphasized D over offense 2) we got a coach that would recruit the entire US of A 3) we got a coach that carried about all sports at KU not just his 4) we got a coach that stressed wins, education and good citizens 5) we got a coach that doesn't think he is bigger than the university 6) we got a coach that inspired to sit in the KU chair not use it as a step elsewhere

justinryman 9 years, 8 months ago

1) I agree with. 2) It wasn't like Roy brought in bad players, look at the players he had. 3) Not sure how Self carries all the sports at KU, but I think basketball in general does that at KU. 4) Pretty sure Roy doesn't like to lose, what coach does? And what bad citizens did Roy produce? 5) Most coaches do think they are bigger than the Univ. Self is just humble in that way. 6) You say that now, but what happens when Self bolts for the Spurs?

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 8 months ago

Regarding No. 2 - it's almost like Roy had an agreement w/ Dean Smith that he wouldn't recruit east of Ohio....In fact, I only remember Kenny Gregory in terms of ANYONE being east of the Chicago-area for that matter!!!!

jhox 9 years, 8 months ago

Because lying would have hopefully done away with the distraction so his players could have been more focused on the game, and not whether their coach was returning. That type of lying would have been forgivable because it would have been in KU's best interest, not Roy's.

And he did do us a favor. Nine straight conference championships and a National Championship. As good as Roy was at KU, Self has been more successful.

Yes, Roy has 2 National titles (one with Matt Dougherty's players) but he never bothered to recruit the East Coast at KU. At KU he didn't want to step on Carolina's toes. Yet he's had no such issues stepping on KU's toes going after Midwest kids we're after like Hansbrough and Barnes.

We have a guy who considers KU his destination job. From that standpoint alone we're better off. Absolutely Roy did us a favor by leaving even if we didn't know it at the time. If you can't understand that you're not paying much attention to what's transpired in Lawrence the last 10 years.

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 8 months ago

Tough questions wissoxfan83. I've always believed that lying required intent. I know I was fairly certain that Matt Doherty would have had a long successful career at UNC. I have to believe that Roy did also.

As for doing us a favor in 2003, the results show that it worked out best for both teams.

otaKU 9 years, 8 months ago

Of course we could never know this, but if Roy would've lied about the UNC job and then we won the national championship I don't think Bill Self would've come to Kansas (thus probably eliminating the 08' championship). Just my opinion, but Roy was a really tough act to follow. Leaving after a championship would've been an even harder act to follow.

zjayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

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Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago

Its all rumor.

We dont need to spread it anymore.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 8 months ago

Don't forget that noone thought that we would get as far as we did w/o Wayne Simien. Having said that I don't know that he would've played any better than Graves what with the 16 pts. & 16 boards!!!!

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 8 months ago

Missed FTs barely covers the key stat. 30 attempts (many were front ends of 1 and 1s) and only 12 made. Most of these were against players going to the rim. Seems that if Kansas has an Achilles' heel, it would be free throws.

If we had made 50% = overtime. 50% plus 1 = Championship.

Nick Collison was the best player on the floor that night (with exception of free throws) not Carmelo. Wayne out injured and barely any bench production. It was the quintessential Roy coached team. Another great job of coaching that just came up short.

It still makes me crazy thinking about that game. So many IFs!

Oh well, Go Louisville. Time to see the best coach in Kentucky add to his legacy.

TheBoHawk 9 years, 8 months ago

I really can't stand Carmelo Anthony...

JHWK 9 years, 8 months ago

Because of that game....had we beat them, I'm sure I'd be just fine with it.
'Melo could start the worlds greatest charity, helping a billion kids and that would not erase the bad taste in my mouth that lingers since that game.
I'm a Jayhawk, daggone it...

okiedave 9 years, 8 months ago

I'm happy Scott Pollard is in the movies. However, I find this particular shot of him choking a woman with him taunting her with a sexual tongue thrust to be in poor taste for the LJW to post. Granted it may be one of his film shots, but that does not make it appropriate. I don't think Scott would not have chosen this particular photo to impress KU fans regarding non-basketball accomplishments.

79ictjhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Were you expecting a nice "homicidal killing machine"?

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

When going to, I don't expect to have to worry about my daughter seeing the computer screen. It might be appropriate in some setting, but it's really inappropriate in this setting. Really inappropriate.

Jack Wilson 9 years, 8 months ago

I have to agree. This site is not the spot for that photo.

<p> removes comments on this site that are far less "over the line" than that photo. Heck if some described that photo in a post, it would get removed. I have no problem with the photo or the movie if that's someone's choice, but just not on this website.

Mike Barnhart 9 years, 8 months ago

Because it's SCAREY? Grow up guys, there's no sex or gore in this little image. I saw worse violence at a Rutgers basketball practice.

klineisanazi 9 years, 8 months ago

No, because it it is in bad taste. A quaint concept, I know.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 8 months ago

Because we're repulsed by an image means we need to grow up? Growing up means we need to accept an image that we find to be offensive? Sorry, that's not the definition of grown up, to me it's kind of the opposite.

okiedave 9 years, 8 months ago

No, growing up means resisting violence against women, not making it appear to be erotic.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 8 months ago

I agree with that too, I wasn't trying to be all inclusive with my statement of what growing up means :)

dynamitehawk 9 years, 8 months ago

What is a sexual tongue thrust, and wear can I buy one?

okiedave 9 years, 8 months ago

Scott is demonstating it...but without the viagara.

GortHawker 9 years, 8 months ago

It works for me, wonder who that hottie is he's about to lick ? Just think, soon Scott will be making movies with Lindsay Lohan, lucky guy!

JayHok 9 years, 8 months ago

did LJW stop to think for a minute about the children who view this site Sunday mornings with their parents? Did it have to be THIS photo?

YuCoJayHawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, i was just about to say, one of many things I remember about that game was Carmelo Anthony playing a pivotal role as a freshman. It often crossed my mind in the last 5 years that KU might have a similar outcome when they got to a championship game (Henry-2010, Selby-2011, Mclemore-2013). But, as most of you know, our best result in the last 4 tournaments was the one year we didn't have a freshman playing important minutes (2012)

KULA 9 years, 8 months ago

12-30 free throws--another example of a team reflecting it's coach's tightness. Not unlike some to Bill's teams tournament performances.

Didn't think I could pull for Michigan, but I'm SO glad to see Syracuse denied another chance for a championship.

And congratulations to Wichita State! Almost pulled it off despite some flaky calls down the stretch. Can anyone explain to me how the refs can stop the game and go to the video to call a flagrant foul retroactively even though there was no call and no actual stoppage in play during the Kansas/Michigan game, and yet let another guy punch a kid in the face and play on in the Wichita/Louisville game? Apparent Ron Baker is TOO tough and didn't act it out enough.

Anyway, Congratulations to Wichita State! That is one TOUGH, DISCIPLINED, and WELL-COACHED TEAM!

Chris1955 9 years, 8 months ago

Anybody else think that the calls or lack of calls down the stretch were definitely in Louisville's favor. That tied up possession call was insane.

JayHawkFanToo 9 years, 8 months ago

I watched the game with a group of friends, and everybody though the calls throughout the game went heavily in favor of Louisville.

Dirk Medema 9 years, 8 months ago

Baker travels when he spins away if it isn't a tie-up, which would have been same end result.

WSU also got an NBA continuation shooting foul/And1 late as well. It definitely wasn't all L'ville.

JayHawkFanToo 9 years, 8 months ago

I don't believe any one said it was "all" Louisville, but you can't deny the calls went heavily in Louisville favor.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 8 months ago

I had tickets to a baseball game last night so I did the unthinkable and skipped the final four. When I got home with 3 minutes left in the syr-mu game I saw more than enough of Syracuse' maul ball zone they've been playing and the refs swallowing their whistle.

I'm still shaking my head over a play in the syr-marquette game. Marquette kid drives the lane from the side, soars and lays it in. From the opposite direction Syracuse' Fair comes in, leaps a second too late and lands on top of the the Marquette kid. No foul, the Marquette kid had to leave the game for an injury, Syracuse ball. It was so unbelievable. With less than ten minutes left in the 2nd half 'cuse had 6 fouls for the entire game. No wonder Marquette couldn't score, they were getting hacked to death. To a lesser extent the same happened in the Indiana game.

When I checked yahoo on the wichita game last night it appeared from their article and fan comments that the refs just let Louisville foul at will in their comeback.

justinryman 9 years, 8 months ago

There were bad call on both ends of the WSU/L'Ville game. There was no flow to the game, there was awhistle every-other time down the floor. Both teams were bailed out of travel calls, by the Refs calling a foul.

WSU had the game won, but they got sloppy late and had some UNforced turnover, 3 in a minute! Once L'Vile got going they were more aggressive on Offensive than WSU was and it cost WSU the game.

WSU tried to keep a lead instead of winning the game. Never works.

justinryman 9 years, 8 months ago

And if you want to see really bad officiating, watch the Lvill v Baylor womens game. Britney Grinner got forearmed, hacked, pushed, pulled, shoved, tripped and there might have even been a leg sweep in there at one point. And that was just on the opening jump ball. They said it was a game plan the L'ville followed, in 49 states they would have been arrested, for the things they were doing to her. The refs didn't know how to call the game, the called a lot of fouls, but not nearly enough.

And then to call a foul on her at the end of the game to give them FT's was utterly wrong!!

Joseph Bullock 9 years, 8 months ago

what Griner did was obviously wrong, but what part of what the other girl did "FIRST", did you not see??? Obviously, you are a TT fan, and you only see what you want to see. You are probably that way in life, in general, too!

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 8 months ago

Are you saying the punch was justified? The first part was a flagrant 1 and the punch was a flagrant 2. Griner could have cost her team a loss by losing her composure.

As for the Louisville/Baylor women's game, I did watch it and you are pretty much right on target. Give Griner credit for keeping her composure. Calling Gino arrogant is almost a compliment. He called Louisville's coach arrogant at the press conference after beating ND. TFF

Joseph Bullock 9 years, 8 months ago

I only saw the hi-lites of the Louisville/Baylor women's game, but what I did see, being a former ref, was unbelievable! Not only did BG get physically abused, the Louisville players were taunting her repeatedly, and they should have been T'd for that, immediately. It was almost like the refs wanted Baylor to lose. Maybe they are friends with Gino A., the arrogant jerk who coaches at U-Conn. He sure did not want to play Baylor, since he knew U-Conn could not beat them.

nuleafjhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Prior to that game, she was 6' 8". After the beatdown she got, she is now 5' 11".

Beate Williams 9 years, 8 months ago

It was utterly ridiculous. I can only surmise that the coach told the refs before the game what the game plan was to alert the refs so they wouldn't call fouls for something for which they had been forwarned. That was simply criminal. You never so a time when there were not at least three people surrounding her, one hitting her in the face, another holding one arem and yet another holding the other arm. What a way to go out. I'm really surprised Mulkey didn't raise more hell.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, other than our game, that's the one that made me the maddest - - - made me SOOOO mad I quit watching......the Marquette / Syracuse game.

COMPLETELY UNFAIR reffing in that game.

TOO MANY TIMES a Marquette player would penetrate the zone (doing a good job btw) and have 4 'cuse players hack him to death with nothing called and the ball squirts loose.

yates33333 9 years, 8 months ago

I am glad you mentioned the refereeing of that game. It stunk. I usually complain only when KU gets the shaft, but WSU got a bigger shaft than most of KU's except when the Texas Western player shoved JoJo White out of bounds and White's shot didn't count. KU would have won otherwise. Technology has improved everything in sports except BB refereeing.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 8 months ago

Gotta' root on Louisville.....a team of mostly Sr.'s & Jr.'s. A team that stresses defense. A team with an inside shot-blocker. A team with a scoring threat SG. A team with a veteran coach with currently 1 championship under it's belt.

Hmmmm, sounds an awful lot like us!!!!!

Only real difference being that it's been a LOT LONGER since Louisville last won a championship than us (1986 vs. 2008).

GOTTA' root on Louisville. Would also love for them to have that over their UK brethren.

Michael Bratisax 9 years, 8 months ago

My thoughts exactly. If Louisville wins, it would give them their 3rd NCAA Championship...the last two being '86 and '13.

Pretty similar.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

My brother and I switched shoes at halftime of that game.

It didn't work.

okiedave 9 years, 8 months ago

You should have tried moving from the couch to sitting on the floor -- that usually works pretty good for me.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

It was actually at Johnny's Tavern, but we did it because of Langford's old superstition. When he wasn't playing well, he would switch shoes at halftime.

jayhawkinnc 9 years, 8 months ago

Actually, Roy never said the exact words of "I don't give a (bleep) about North Carolina.". Rather, he said "I could give a (bleep) about North Carolina right now. I have 13 kids in that locker room that I love.".

Actually, correct grammar would have been: "I COULDN'T give a (bleep) about North Carolina right now."

Either way, way to stay classy and keep it together Roy.

The Grammar Police

actorman 9 years, 8 months ago

That's a bunch of sanctimonious garbage. I'd like to see you be under the type of pressure he was under and then get asked the same question (that you'd been asked about all week) twice in a row right after one of the toughest losses of your career.

I'm sure of course that you would have been nothing but magnanimous.

Keith Kienzle 9 years, 8 months ago

You're wrong about the grammar. I believe the point of the phrase "I could give a [noun with a negative connotation] about [subject you are deprecating]" is that the thing you are willing to give in exchange for the thing you are deprecating is not something you value. To say you are NOT willing to give a [noun with a negative connotation] for the [subject you are deprecating], while possibly adding the implication that [the subject you are deprecating] is NOT EVEN worth the [noun with the negative connotation], this is not entirely clear from the sentence. I would therefore argue that the latter is less grammatically correct.

Also, if you google "i could give a" and "i couldn't give a", you'll see the former has a ton more results. So, I think you could also argue that when it comes to a slang phrase, the proper grammar of that phrase is determined by the most widely accepted syntax.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Approx, this post is freaking fantastic.

packywacky88 9 years, 8 months ago

I think the phrase comes from "I couldn't care less", meaning that you care so little it is impossible to care less. The phrase "I don't give a #&t" is just another way to say I don't care about the subject at hand. On the "give a #@t" debate, I could possibly see it both ways, but saying "I could care less" makes no sense at all. Saying "I could care less" is not very descriptive and could be made regarding just about anything. Just in case you give a *#@t.

I guess this is what we do when the team we had down by 11 with 3:47 to go is playing Monday night for the championship. Sucks hearing it referred to as "the shot" by Michigan fans.

jayhawkinnc 9 years, 8 months ago

yep. I would have. I wouldn't have been a jerk to Bonnie Bernstein that night.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

It's because they don't actually care about the answer. Those questions often generate an emotional response from the interviewee, which is precisely what these "journalists" are after. Visible emotion following a loss is what sells, and those asking these questions are aware of the buttons that often bring it out.

It's also why a fair percentage of media members are seen as such a-holes. They often have to be to give the audience "what they want." It's really a pretty sad game that we all actively play...

Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago


I would like to add a fifth memory that haunts me...

Keith Langford being absolutely robbed. He scored his 19 points in 23 minutes. He was shooting 7-9 from the field. He was called for some bogus fouls while shining on the biggest stage. It was absolutely absurd. Those lost minutes due foul trouble, along with atrocious free throw shooting, cost us the National Championship.

It also cost Langford money and legitimacy. He is never listed among the greats that have played for the University of Kansas and I feel that is ridiculous. His stats due him far more justice than his accomplishments. I always felt he did not receive the medias attention like Hinrich, Miles, Collison, or Simien. Because of this, he was the odd man out when it came to receiving awards.

Look at his stats, he played meaningful minutes as a freshman, and killed in from then on. He averaged over 15 ppg his sophomore and junior seasons and scored 1,812 points in his career. In his sophomore season, the NCAA runner-up season, he was named to the All Final 4 Team. In my opinion, had we won that game, Keith Langford would have been holding the Final 4 MOP trophy. He had an outstanding game prior to the Championship game, scoring 23 against Marquette and Dwayne Wade.

That gets your jersey hung in Allen Fieldhouse forever.

It also gets NBA scouts attention.

I understand he is having an absolutely marvelous career overseas and am absolutely proud of what he has accomplished. I just wish it could be better recognized here in the United States. I know he does not care about the attention or fame and is strictly planning on playing for whoever the highest bidder may be and I completely respect that. Why should you take a pay cut just to satisfy an overhyped desire to play in the NBA? He is making a valiant and wise business decision by playing overseas and I applaud him for doing it. Again, I just selfishly wish he was tearing it up the NBA. He has the talent, there is zero doubt in my mind about that.

Keith "Freeze" Langford. You were amazing and I hope fans of the University of Kansas remember you for your greatness, even if your jersey never reaches the rafters.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 8 months ago

That's what happens I guess when three of your teammates go on to long NBA careers. I agree of course. He was a fun player to watch. His 1800 career points surprises me, that's a lot!

VaJay 9 years, 8 months ago

When that guy drove in the lane, you knew he was going to score somehow. And he had a silky outside jumper.

phins13td 9 years, 8 months ago

Great post IBWT, I agree 100%. K-Freeze was the ultimate "slasher" to the rim and BIG GAME player. The fact that his jersey is not retired and hanging in the rafters is a complete joke. All the powers that be should give their collective heads a shake. Hopefully justice will be served. We salute you K-Freeze. Your clutch play and greatness will never be forgotten.

Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago

My favorite Keith Langford memory was at Allen Fieldhouse on New Years Day. We were playing Georgia Tech and it was as top 10 matchup and Wayne Simien was not able to play.

KU was down 7 at halftime and Jarret Jack was playing sensational.

Cool Keith Freeze was there to bail us out.

He hit the game tying shot in regulation and was silky smooth as he drove to the lane in the final seconds to win the game.

That was one of the loudest moments I have ever experienced in Allen Fieldhouse. It was absolutely deafening.

actorman 9 years, 8 months ago

Great memory, InBill.

Another great memory was Langford hitting the game-winning shot at Nebraska with 30 seconds to go, as a freshman.

Jack Jones 9 years, 8 months ago

Thanks for the reminder ~Keith was a truly exciting player to watch on a really great team ~ and I appreciate your giving his impressive stats, which do get "lost" given the post-college accomplishments of his teammates. Certainly his outstanding career overseas is a true testament as to his skill as an outstanding basketball talent.

RJ King 9 years, 8 months ago

I live with the memory of that game, since my spouse is a Syracuse grad - as well as seemingly half of my co-workers. I see Michael Lee at every USF game. And Mr. Gerry F. McNamara on the sidelines at the regional against Cal. The 2003 game is the reason a large orange fuzzy banner hangs in the office, not in our home.

But I can't avoid the 'Cuse shirts when I'm pulling my own stuff out of the dryer. I open the mailbox to find Syracuse alumni collateral. I go to "My Recordings" and find tivo'd Syracuse games. I pull 'Cuse coffee cups out of the dishwasher. I must sometimes drive a car with a Syracuse license plate frame. ESPN said it best. "If it wasn't for sports, this wouldn't be gross."

I'm frequently informed of the attendance figures (23,000!) for the Carrier Dome. My response is, "duh - it seats like half a million people!" When reminded of the size and strength of the Big "East," I say things like, "You guys have Chaminade and Taiwan in your conference, right???"

Alas, I look for the positive. My 15-yr.-old son knew of Carmello and Wade, and won the Madness pool going away that year. New York is now a free, fun place to visit. At least Syracuse is not a football school. And lastly - it could be a lot worse. . . it could be Kentucky.

Lance Cheney 9 years, 8 months ago

Sounds like you need to find a new wife!

VailHawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Classic post bayhawk! My wife went to Indiana and her brother played for Knight...and she still complains about Ostertag as we beat them to go to the final four...

captku 9 years, 8 months ago

Dude, I just think you need more KU gear. Plus, be first to get you kids outfitted first in the crimson and blue. All you can do. Work it.

RJ King 9 years, 8 months ago

Seriously (smile), thanks for your concern, but I've made sure both my Jayhawk wardrobe and coffee cup collection far surpasses the spouse's (who happens to be #2).

My own kids modeled Jayhawk gear from month one. First book my son read without my nagging was "Floor Burns" when he was 11. My daughter now proudly wears her KU alumni t-shirt because she IS one - quite the sacrifice given the out of state tuition.

But even now, though swaddled and surrounded in literal and spiritual crimson and blue, that damn loss in '03 still bites!

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 8 months ago

It could be worse.

Your wife could've gone to Northern Iowa!!!!!! :)

Hawk8086 9 years, 8 months ago

I traveled to N.O. for that final four. Even though we lost, it was a great experience being with so many fellow Jayhawks at a great event. What people forget about the missed FTs is that on several of them we (I think mainly Graves) got offensive rebounds and turned them into 2 points. The missed FTs did not cost us as much as everyone thinks. I believe there was even a LJW article on this subject. This fact didn't make it any less frustrating, though. During the telecast last night, I saw a shot of McNamara on the Syracuse bench....shook my fist at him, even after all of these years. I respect what he did, though.

Benjamin Clay Jones 9 years, 8 months ago

You are correct, 8086. We converted three missed front ends of one-and-one's into buckets for 6 points. If we had cashed both ends of those three one-and-one's as free throws instead, we would have had the same number of points but our free-throwing on the night would have been 18-33. People always overlook this.

Marc Frey 9 years, 8 months ago

Free Throws...cost us in 03, won us a title in 08, and possibly lost us a game last weekend.

JayHok 9 years, 8 months ago

2013 team is one free throw from playing Monday night. Just an opinion. I don't think Withey would have let anyone else win this championship.

justinryman 9 years, 8 months ago

And let us not forget Wayne Simien was in street clothes with a bum shoulder.

If he plays in that game does it have a diiferent outcome?

jayhawkinATL 9 years, 8 months ago

Yep. Happened to run into him on Bourbon Street one night that weekend.

Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago


It would have given Collison more of a chance to rest and possibly kept him from fouling out of the game.

It would have also cut into Michael Lee and Bryant Nash's minutes. Which would have been a positive because then Lee could have given Langford more of a rest and kept him from fouling out of the game.

Since79 9 years, 8 months ago

Wayne Simien playing would have a difference but Jeff Graves had 16 &16. Couldn't have asked for much more

Mike Barnhart 9 years, 8 months ago

Jeff Graves, ha, there's a forgotten Jayhawk! Guy had some GREAT games and slept through others. Do I detect a little Jeff Graves in Rio Adams?

jhox 9 years, 8 months ago

I saw Graves at the Big 12 tournament a few weeks ago. He looked in better shape than he did during his playing days. I had forgotten how great of a game he had.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 8 months ago

I blame the loss on......Drew Gooden. Why couldn't that young man have had a little more foresight to see that KU might have gone undefeated that season with all of the talent they had if he stuck around? I know the NBA money is a big draw. As I recall he came from a pretty stable home environment, so that probably wasn't an issue.

Living in Wisconsin at the time I had to endure a bit of Marquette trash talk leading up to that semifinal game. I kept saying you just wait to see how good this KU team is. After KU went up 70-30 early in the second half, I think they knew. I don't ever recall a FF rout like that game.
And it was fairly close for the first 7 or 8 minutes so it had to have been like a 55-15 run or so to get to that point.

I like to watch old games on the NCAA vault. The final against 'cuse was one I'll never watch. Easily the most frustrating KU game I've ever watched (I was in the car in '97, so technically I didn't watch that game against Arizona).

actorman 9 years, 8 months ago

I think KU had a similar rout in the Final Four, against a team with a certain ex-KU coach in charge, in '08. Remember that the score in that one was 40-12 at one point. (Yeah, I know it got fairly close towards the end, but that run to start the game was like nothing I've ever seen.)

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 8 months ago

My recollection of the Arizona game that made me SOOOOOOOOO mad is that on SEVERAL of their steals I would argue that they were HARDLY clean! :(

VaJay 9 years, 8 months ago


The first five victims are Bennett Davison, A.J. Bramlett, Michael Dickerson, Miles Simon, and Mike Bibby.

741hawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Elisabeth Kubler published the Five Stages of Grief. 1) Denial 2) Anger 3) Bargaining 4) Depression 5) Acceptance

By Saturday morning, after watching Selden in the McDonalds All-America Game and Frankamp in the three-point shooting contest, I felt I had finally moved to #3. Now, with the Michigan win, I'm back AT #2.

Opportunities to get to the Final Four, and then the championhsip game, are so limited that you just can't waste them. Losing to Indiana in '53 by one point, having won it the year before. Roy stubbornly starting and playing Jerrod Haas in the '97 Ariz. game. (We later learned he had a broken wrist and played one-handed.) Stubborn. The Syracuse game in '02, when Roy should have had someone get physical with 'lil McNamara and our guys should have hit free throws. Interestingly, I don't harbor any feelings of anger or depression about last year's team because they over-achieved and played well in that final game. This year? I'm back to angry -- a rare and wasted opportunity and a collapse should have been prevented.

actorman 9 years, 8 months ago

Well said, 741.

Of course many of us also still harbor resentment about the Battle of New Orleans, when KU lost to Wichita State 66-65 in '81. (Yep, I still remember that score -- it's forever burned in my memory.)

BTW, the Syracuse loss was in '03, not '02. Of course '02 was pretty lousy too, as KU lost to Maryland and Drew Gooden picked a terrible time to have the worst game of his college career.

741hawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Add the three overtime loss in '57. I truly believe that had the State Legislators made an exception and allowed Coach Allen to continue coaching past retirement age (it was considered state employment in those days), that Coach Forrest C. Allen's team would have beaten UNC.

tis4tim 9 years, 8 months ago


Grief is not always a linear process. It's gonna take some time as these losses always do. Chin up, good sir and Rock Chalk!

741hawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Thanks for the support, tis4tim. The worst part for me is that after tomorrow night there are no sporting activities (of interest to me) to distract me until college football. Rock Chalk.

BainDread 9 years, 8 months ago

I wish Michael Lee wouldn't feel like he was the reason the Jayhawks lost the '03 championship game. I haven't seen a replay of the last shot for years, but I don't recall that he took any extra wasted time between receiving the ball and shooting it. If he had rushed the shot, odds are even greater that it would have missed. It was a great play by Warwick and we will never know if it would have been good. Maybe next year when the Dons come to USD to play the Toreros, I'll hold up a big sign that says "Michael, It Wasn't Your Fault!"

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 8 months ago

Does this relate to Elijah Johnson's last second shot (er, pass in lieu of a shot) in the Michigan game too? I would hold up a sign that says "EJ, you blew it"

Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago

Elijah wasnt the only one who blew that 14 point lead.

It was all of them.

actorman 9 years, 8 months ago

He wasn't the only one, but about 90% of it was his fault.

Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago

I would give Trey Burke 90% of the credit.

That dude went unconscious for a half of basketball.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 8 months ago

Actually, Scot looks better in that photo than at times during his playing days. However, in these days of scrutiny over violence in society, it may have been prudent to have the article titled a little differently to avoid the "shock value". After all, even TV networks decided to suspend replaying the broken leg incident of Kevin Ware. And, that was reality TV.

texashawk10 9 years, 8 months ago

Not necessarily, his name has popped up as a possible candidate for the Rutgers job as well.

Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago

If he gets a legitimate head coaching job, such as Rutgers, I am okay with losing Dooley.

They are moving to the Big 10 and I believe he could succeed at Rutgers, not at a school such as Hofstra.

I always want him on our side, but he probably has wants and needs as a coach and he has earned the right to coach at the highest level.

Not to mention it would suck to lose Fake Jeff Withey and Fake Joe Dooley in the same offseason.

Nicholas Cederlind 9 years, 8 months ago

WE were supposed to beat Syracuse yesterday, on the eve of our 2003 loss, to exercise that ghost. I hate this day.

trueblue68 9 years, 8 months ago

Why not a positive article., i.e.

Today marks the 10-year anniversary of Kansas University’s 75-68 win over Memphis in the Finals of the 2008 NCAA Tournament.

April 7, 2008.

JayHawkFanToo 9 years, 8 months ago

10-year anniversary? I guess your math and mine are quite different.

trueblue68 9 years, 8 months ago


5th anniversary of KUs win over Memphis.

Jack Jones 9 years, 8 months ago

Agree ~ Pollard movie pic post was inappropriate wherever the context. While information regarding his acting career is interesting to read, we simply must understand and accept the fact that the depiction and description of violence against anyone, and particularly against women, not only serves no useful purpose, but in fact, does just the opposite.

jaybate 9 years, 8 months ago

Pollard's movie still needed a caption, or a paragraph lead in before the pic.

I thought some washout from Tulsa University's Camp Destabilization Cyber Spy program hacked to get even with Keegs for giving him a thumbs down on his LJW internship! :-)

jaybate 9 years, 8 months ago

Only one thing stands out in my memory about the 'excuse vs KU game: we had no answer for Carmelo. No one could make him even a little uncomfortable.

Adam Tyler 9 years, 8 months ago

I believe it was our Championship to lose.

Carmelo definitely got his. The dude almost had a triple double.

But we held him scoreless in the final 13 minutes of that ballgame.

Steve Brown 9 years, 8 months ago

Wasn't this the game where KCMO TV sportscaster, MU Tiger Jack Harry stuck a microphone in the face of our players right before tip off asking them what they thought about Roy leaving KU, screw him. Time and place for everything that was rude, even now when he is on TV or Radio I flip.

Mighty glad MU never made the Final 4, hope they don't until he is 6' under.

mattiesdad 9 years, 8 months ago

The pic is tasteless, rude, and offensive. Please take it down and replace it with another more family friendly photo that would still promote Scot's movie.

JayHok 9 years, 8 months ago

Would be interesting to hear the writers and editors of LJW defend how this picture out of all they could choose was chosen.

RJ King 9 years, 8 months ago

way to treat a recruit that we wanted.

Yolanda Gay 9 years, 8 months ago

Whosever decision was to put that photo on this website needs to be relieved of their duties regarding website content or at least cannot make the decision alone. That picture is in VERY poor taste and offensive for children and women.

Brian Skelly 9 years, 8 months ago

I wouldnt really have a problem with the pic -- assuming its seen on the article page -- NOT the front page. It's still a not so smart choice by whomever green lighted it however. There's no other one to show?

Nicholas Cederlind 9 years, 8 months ago

Props to Gary for bringing up some of the most painful memories of all time. Hey Gary, are we still in this week's tournament? I haven't checked in a while...

BC5 9 years, 8 months ago

Holy cow write a new story so this picture isn't the first thing I see every time I log on. And seriously, why not bring up 1997 while you are remind us of 2003. Anniversary of KU failures. Awesome. Terrible idea for a story

741hawk 9 years, 8 months ago

New photo. Much much better. Thank you.

okiedave 9 years, 8 months ago

+1 -- Dedore deserves credit for rethinking his previous choice.

Scott MacWilliams 9 years, 8 months ago

Hey Jayhawks, I followed the Planet Pollard link to see some of his videos, and there is one that you should all look up. It's called Throwback Thursday, and includes a great interview of Pollard talking about what it means to be a Jayhawk, and playing in the Legends game a few years ago.

Absolutely GREAT stuff. Don't miss it, it will make your day.

Rock Chalk, Pollard "Marvin the Cadillac" Hawk!!!

ku_foaf 9 years, 8 months ago

I was at that game. Whenever I start rattling off NCAA champs for each year, I sometimes get stuck at 2003...obviously I suppressed the memory!

Seriously, after 10 years I can look back and see what a great game it really was. The ridiculous number of three pointers in a row was a complete nightmare for us. The fact that we were within three and had a chance to tie was amazing. I still think Mike Lee's shot would have gone in, he'd made so many from right there. Hakeem Warrick made a near superhuman effort in blocking that shot. He was NOWHERE near Lee! When Collison fouled out, I remember a non-KU fan jumping up and clapping and saying "Those Kansas fans don't realize that was his last moment in a KU uniform!" He was right. We still has hopes for an NC. That feeling when you realize the season and the year have come and gone is special.

In retrospect we lost to a very talented young team, and just barely.

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