Originally published June 8, 2011 at 03:17p.m., updated June 8, 2011 at 05:51p.m.

FINAL: Led by Cole Aldrich, Elijah Johnson, Red team wins first camp scrimmage

Johnson scores 19 points; Tyshawn Taylor has 20 for Blue team

Red Team players Justin Wesley, left, and Cole Aldrich watch as Blue Team guard Tyshawn Taylor misfires on an attempted dunk during the alumni scrimmage game on Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at the Horejsi Center.

Red Team players Justin Wesley, left, and Cole Aldrich watch as Blue Team guard Tyshawn Taylor misfires on an attempted dunk during the alumni scrimmage game on Wednesday, June 8, 2011 at the Horejsi Center.



Bill Self basketball camp scrimmage

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Current Jayhawks and KU alumni scrimmaged at the Bill Self basketball camp Wednesday, June 8, 2011.

5:50 p.m. update:

Here are some final observations from the first camp scrimmage. Take these for what they're worth, as it was just one scrimmage in the early summer.

Tyshawn Taylor appeared to enjoy being a go-to guy. The senior point guard looked loose and confident in his shot in racking up 20 points and five assists. Early on, this appears to be Taylor's team.

Thomas Robinson still isn't going to back down. Though he didn't guard Cole Aldrich much on Wednesday, Aldrich knew about it when he did. Robinson was shoving, elbowing, grabbing a jersey — anything he could do to get Aldrich out of rhythm. It seemed to work, as Aldrich appeared to be flustered when the physical Robinson was guarding him.

Having said that, Robinson will need to significantly cut down on his fouls to stay in games this season, so playing that physical might not be something he wants to continue once the season starts.

Elijah Johnson can shoot. I don't remember the junior point guard missing a three-pointer on Wednesday (he shot at least four). Coincidentally (or maybe not coincidentally), many of his threes came immediately after Taylor made a three for the Blue team.

Johnson piled up 19 points and was the Red team's best non-alum player. He didn't look to be overanalyzing things Wednesday, and that seemed to help him.

Justin Wesley once again performed well in a scrimmage setting. Nine of his 11 points came in the first half, and though he's a bit undersized when trying to guard someone like Robinson, he makes up for it with pretty good athleticism. After grabbing a steal in the first half, he dribbled it the length of the court and put in an athletic layup for one of the day's best highlights. We'll see if he puts up another impressive effort next week.

Jeff Withey was Jeff Withey. At times, he was dominated by Aldrich, who scored on his first three possessions against Withey. At times, he was timid, and didn't appear to want to get in the middle of a scuffle inside.

Then, when it's all over, he has nine points and 11 rebounds, a few blocks, and has helped the team much more than he has hurt it.

With Withey, people always seem to focus on what he's not good at or what he can't do rather than what he can do.

And as of now, Withey can provide an Aldrich lite-like presence in the lane defensively while grabbing some rebounds and getting some stickbacks.

KU certainly could do worse with its starting center.

I can understand the comparisons between Naadir Tharpe and Aaron Miles. Tharpe wasn't a huge scorer, but he seemed to be a facilitator on Wednesday much like Miles. He didn't force offense, but instead was steady and picked his spots well. He didn't hesitate to put in a baseline jumper over Taylor when the senior was late to get out to him defensively.

I was impressed by Travis Releford as well. He was aggressive driving through the lane and seemed to make good decisions when doing so. He makes getting to the rim look so effortless. His three wasn't going down, but it probably won't have to for him to average 8-10 points next season if he attacks the rim like he did Wednesday.

Ben McLemore's shot wasn't falling, but you can see there's athleticism there. I wouldn't be surprised if he plays on the wing with his body type, which KU coach Bill Self said was a little bit similar to Brandon Rush's.

Quiet day for Conner Teahan. Still wondering if he'll earn rotation minutes.

Be sure to check back to later for video highlights from today's scrimmage.

Unofficial final scoring (points may not all add up)

Red team — Jeff Hawkins 3, Christian Garrett 0, Cole Aldrich 17 (12 rebounds), Naadir Tharpe 2, Tyrel Reed 16, Justin Wesley 11, Ben McLemore 4, Elijah Johnson 19.

Blue team — Tyshawn Taylor 20 (5 assists), Thomas Robinson 14 (10 rebounds), Jeff Withey 9 (11 rebounds), Travis Releford 14, Jordan Juenemann 5, Conner Teahan 0, Niko Roberts 0.

Check back to later tonight for video highlights and also player interviews from today's camp scrimmage.

Red 71/Blue 62

Johnson with a deep three-pointer to end it.

The red team, made up of about half alums, takes the first camp game.

We'll update with leading scorers in a few minutes.

Red 66/Blue 56

Reed with a three. I believe this game is first one to 70 points.

Red 63/Blue 56

Taylor with a strong drive, putting it high off the glass for two with a foul.

Red 61/Blue 54

Taylor misses a jumper, but Robinson uses two hands to volleyball swat it into the hoop.

Red 59/Blue 52

Releford with a smooth move, faking a pass to the perimeter before gliding two steps to the lane for a layup.

Red 56/Blue 50

Robinson with a thunder dunk over Aldrich. That gets the loudest "Ohhhhhs" from the crowd today.

Red 56/Blue 48

Tharpe swipes the ball away for a steal, then on a 2-on-0, lays the ball off the glass so Reed can dunk it.

Red 52/Blue 48

Wesley with two free throws. He's up to 11 points.

Red 52/Blue 48

Juenemann with a fadeaway 18-footer. Smooth stroke there over a defender.

Red 49/Blue 44

Robinson has been extremely physical when he's guarded Aldrich inside. He's bumped him and shoved him quite a bit.

Red 49/Blue 42

Another alley oop, only this time McLemore goes way up to slam it down.

Red 47/Blue 40

Tharpe with a 16-foot baseline jumper over Taylor, who wasn't respecting his ability to shoot.

Taylor follows with an alley-oop to Robinson, who slams it in behind his head.

Red 45/Blue 38

Withey fouled, and he makes one of two free throws. He follows it up by playing good defense on Aldrich, who misses a wild hook shot.

Red 45/Blue 37

Robinson with a baseline jumper over a tired Aldrich.

Red 45/Blue 35

Taylor with an emphatic dunk on a drive. He yells at Aldrich afterwards to let him know about it.

Red 43/Blue 31

Hawkins with a 23-foot three-pointer. He's been mostly quiet so far.

Red 40/Blue 31

Aldrich once again takes Withey one-on-one, this time putting in a spinning, left-handed shot.

Red 38/Blue 29

Taylor drains an open three. Credit Robinson for drawing a crowd in the lane, then passing back outside.

Johnson, like most of this game, answers Taylor's three with one of his own.

Red 35/Blue 26

That's halftime. Aldrich is the leading scorer with 10 points. Wesley has nine, while Johnson has eight.

Robinson, Withey and Releford have six apiece.

Red 35/Blue 26

Wesley with a steal, and he takes it the length of the court for an athletic layup. That gives him nine points.

Red 33/Blue 26

Robinson gets great position on Wesley, then drops in a layup off the glass.

Red 31/Blue 24

Juenemann with a three. He clangs his next one.

Red 28/Blue 21

Withey with a layup through contact. He still could stand to be more physical.

Taylor follows by hanging in the air to make a layup.

Red 26/Blue 17

Johnson tries a drive, and he's rejected by Withey.

Red 26/Blue 15

Taylor curls around a screen for a deep three. Johnson answers with his own.

Red 21/Blue 12

Withey with a stickback dunk. He's going better against a winded Aldrich.

Red 21/Blue 10

Aldrich with the miss, but Wesley is there for the putback.

Red 19/Blue 10

Robinson puts down and alley oop. His vertical jump hasn't gone anywhere.

Red 19/Blue 6

Aldrich has scored his first three times in the post again Withey, this time on a left-handed baseline turnaround.

Next time down, Aldrich finally misses a left-handed shot.

Red 17/Blue 6

Taylor goes for an emphatic slam, but is rejected by the rim. Releford is there to grab the miss and put in a short jumper.

Red 13/Blue 4

Reed nonchalantly pulls up from 24 feet. Swish. Next possession he hustles for a rebound and puts in a fadeaway. He looks much springier after his foot surgery.

Red 7/Blue 0

Elijah Johnson with a three (wasn't there a story about that today somewhere?) and Aldrich takes a couple dribbles to the lane before putting in a hook shot.

Red 2/Blue 0

Round one goes to Aldrich, who gets it in the post, then twirls around Withey for a left-handed two.

Withey's first-turnaround jumper is an airball.

3:39 p.m.

One minute before start time.

I'll be most interested to see how Jeff Withey competes against Cole Aldrich inside.

3:37 p.m.

Wayne Simien is also here, but he won't play.

Getting ready to start.

3:31 p.m.

Oops. I was fooled. It appears that it will be Reed, Elijah Johnson, Aldrich, Hawkins, Christian Garrett, Justin Wesley, Ben McLemore and Naadir Tharpe on the red team.

On the blue team, it looks like Jeff Withey, Travis Releford, Niko Roberts, Conner Teahan, Jordan Juenemann, Thomas Robinson and Tyshawn Taylor.

3:26 p.m.

Looks like Tyshawn Taylor, Travis Releford and Jordan Juenemann will join Hawkins, Aldrich and Reed on the alumni team.

3:17 p.m.

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from the Horejsi Center on the Kansas University campus where the KU men's basketball team is getting set for its first summer camp game. Looks like we're still about 20 minutes away from starting here.

I'm hearing that Cole Aldrich, Tyrel Reed and Jeff Hawkins are all here. We'll put up the exact teams once the guys officially come out.

Otherwise, check back here for quick updates and highlights from today's game.


Scott Smetana 11 years, 6 months ago

We're so gonna win this.
Sounds like Wesley is making a statement.

KEITHMILES05 11 years, 6 months ago

Of course. Been that way for years and years.

knottshawk 11 years, 6 months ago

Play by play, but confusing... what's this? "Taylor drains an open three. Credit Johnson for drawin a crowd in the lane, then passing back outside.

Johnson, like most of this game, answers Taylor's three with one of his own."

So Johnson drew a crowd and passed to Taylor, and then answered Taylor with a three? Is Johnson playing both ways or something? Also, it says "Wesley with a steal, and he takes it the length of the court for an athletic layup. That gives him nine points." but prior to that he'd only been mentioned once... Is it like playing with a handicap?

Jesse Newell 11 years, 6 months ago

Yep, should have been Robinson. Thanks for pointing it out.

I can't type as fast as they play, unfortunately. Can't get every play in there, so I'm just trying to get highlights.

TenaciousD 11 years, 6 months ago

Why not just video the whole game and allow people to watch it on We need more than video highlights and text play by play.

TenaciousD 11 years, 6 months ago

Hey Jesse - How are the teams picked? Is it two captains and then school-yard picking or does Townsend or DMan pick the teams?

Jesse Newell 11 years, 6 months ago

Not exactly sure. They just came out in their respective uniforms. I have to assume that coaches try to even things up.

waywardJay 11 years, 6 months ago

Did Tyshawn jack alot of senseless shots ? 20 and 5 sounds pretty reasonable...... now if it were on 20 shots I would be worried,

Tad Shurtz 11 years, 6 months ago

Sounds like he scored pretty much at will. Even still, Tyshawn's never really been the senseless shot jacker type. He just plays out of control sometimes.

Jesse Newell 11 years, 6 months ago

He was aggressive, but didn't shoot every time down. I would guess 14 shots or so.

waywardJay 11 years, 6 months ago

pretty effective. Then again, I don't mind Tyshawn being aggressive.

Tad Shurtz 11 years, 6 months ago

Jesse - were Tharpe and McLemore wearing numbers? I'm guessing that they'll go with 11 and 23, respectively.

Jesse Newell 11 years, 6 months ago

Don't remember them having numbers, no. Don't see them in our photo gallery, either.

nnelson 11 years, 6 months ago

I'm not sure about Tharpe, but McLemore was wearing 23 on his shorts. At the 1:08 mark on our highlight video, it looks like Tharpe may have had a '1' on his shorts. Here is that video if you want to check it out:

Royce Woolridge was 11, but he's transferring. So maybe he just forgot to give his shorts back?

kesmithstl1 11 years, 6 months ago

still mad at you for costing KU the Texas game!!

jaybate 11 years, 6 months ago

~Honestly, what worries me most is no Jamari and no Braedon. Guys, if 5 star Ben can get his butt into town, despite a mother hating on Kansas, you 3 stars better get your glutes to Larryville pronto. Justin's going to take your lunch ticket, if not. My dad drove us from KC to Canada in a 62 Ford without AC in two days in the 1960s to fish for Walleye. Braedon, you can get your curling stick down to Naismith Court no problema. And remember, Naismith was a Canuck, so we like your flag.

~And Jamari, are you thinking about jumping ship, because Deandre didn't follow you and Christian?

~And Christian's goose eggs flushed some hope for him.

~Speaking of goose eggs, Conner, what is with you?

~Reed cans 16 after surgery and apparently after choosing not to keep practicing to become a pro. Some one tell him to go ask for a few tryouts. That 40-42 vertical will let him trifectate for a salary in some league.

~Withey holding Cole to 17 and 12 is not all that bad. WIthey will only see a few centers as good as Cole next season. And he put 9 and 11 on Cole, so that nets as -8 on points and -1 on the boards. Give him double down help in a real game, and he could probably close that -8 to -4 or -2 and we could live with that against a top center.

~Newell's remark about Withey is money. Got to let him be what he is and contribute what he can. And hope Withey will get some fire once the the brutality begins to be inflicted by the opponents.

~Jamari and Braedon, there are 20-25 minutes available at the 5, if you can bang. And judging from Newell's take on TRob, there will be another 10-20 at the 4 every few nights when the foul bug bites Thomas.

~Let me cut to the chase on Tyshawn: if he improves his concentration half as much this off season as he improved it last season, and if he avoids injury, and pushes his trey up to 39%, he could easily be one of the 3 best PGs in D1 and a first rounder.

~EJ's got a gun...and he's got everything else, too. The pros could take them both after this season. EJ could super nova.

~Travis is ready to come out of the chrysalis. He could finally become the get to the rim wing all of Self's teams have lacked, plus he showed a gun last season before the injury. I am most excited about Travis taking it to his next level.

~Ben Mac? I just don't know spit about him and how he played. Gotta hold off on comments.

~Justin could be very, very handy against the teams that try to make our bigs chase. He actually brings something to the table that we have not had much of over the years, a big equipped to chase.

I'm pumped.

Its flippin' June and I'm pumped!

KEITHMILES05 11 years, 6 months ago

I do hope to goodness doesn't have to turn to Teahan. He is a horrible liability defensively and can't create his shot. Just looking at the bench makes me cringe. Yuck.

Withey has height but doesn't know how to jump. He may have jumped once or twice today and the guy really, really needs to learn that his height is a given but he can be so much more moving his feet, sliding, jumping, being much more aggressive. He is totally out of shape and half way through was tugging his pants. Numerous times he didn't even get back on offense,of all things. Now, this is ragging on him but this is the truth. Newell makes it sound pretty but it wasn't pretty at all. HOWEVER, if he gets busted up at scrimmages this summer and shows a willingness to learn from Cole he can accomplish great things.

Nicholas Cederlind 11 years, 6 months ago

Anyone allowed to record/post video of these practices? We have been STARVING to see our 'Hawks in action since March!

KEITHMILES05 11 years, 6 months ago

Again, at this scrimmage and the one next Wed. anybody can attend and you can record to your hearts content. I am awed by this question as these games have occured for many years and nothing has changed, nothing.

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