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Thursday, May 13, 2010

KU men’s basketball posts highest attendance in Big 12

Kansas fans gear up for the tip-off of the Kansas-Missouri game Monday, Jan. 25, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas fans gear up for the tip-off of the Kansas-Missouri game Monday, Jan. 25, 2010 at Allen Fieldhouse.

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The Kansas men's basketball team led its conference in attendance for the 24th straight year, once again posting the Big 12's highest attendance numbers during the 2009-10 season.

KU averaged 16,433 fans per home game, which ranked ninth nationally. That included 18 games at Allen Fieldhouse and one "home" game played at Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo., which also was included in the home season-ticket package.

“There is no doubt we have the greatest fans in the country and this run since the 1980s is a testament to that,” KU coach Bill Self said in a release.

Since the 1977-78 season, KU has posted a top-10 attendance figure nationally 16 times.

For all games in the 2009-10 season, Kansas ranked eighth with 562,726 fans, which also was first in the conference.

The Big 12, meanwhile, set a home attendance average record of 11,214, ranking third among all leagues.

KU currently has a 147-game sellout streak in Allen Fieldhouse.

Comments

Ben Kane 12 years, 3 months ago

I don't think those stats do us justice since our place is so much smaller than others.

only stat that matters for us is sellouts in a row and even then I'd bet they place that on sales not attendance.

chicagojhwk 12 years, 3 months ago

Disagree as well. Capacity is 16,300. 23rd largest in D-1 according to Kenpom.

Alan Braun 12 years, 3 months ago

I'd expect us to be near the top in the B-12 as we have the second-biggest arena in terms of capacity (AFH 16,300 and UT's building is 16,734 per KenPom). Interesting though that we beat out the Horns in actual attendance. The consecutive sellout streak rivals what the bugeaters do in football and is really the most important stat in the article.

Chris Bruning 12 years, 3 months ago

completely agree with self....."best fans in the country" hands down....and thats what matters....our 16,300 can make more noise than those 20,000 capacity arenas.

Martin Rosenblum 12 years, 3 months ago

Josh Pastner at Memphis is using his school's attendance ranking, nationally, as a weird sort of recruiting tool. They are ranked #8, just slightly ahead of KU.

What the rankings don't reveal is the percentage of the arena's capacity that the attendance numbers are relevant to. For example, KU couldn't average a higher number of atendees than AFH holds. Conversely, in Memphis' case, the FedEx Forum holds 20,000+ and their average attendance was 16000+, obviously less than total capacity.Maybe Pastner doesn't think that saying his team filled 80% of the building sounds better than being ranked #8 in the country. Sounds like he absorbed some skills from Cal in that year they were together at Memphis.

Michael Auchard 12 years, 3 months ago

The odd part about Memphis' numbers, according to the NCAA report, is they have such a high home-court attendance rate but only around 100,000 people have seen them play live in other teams' gyms for the whole regular season. That's why you don't want to play in Conference USA right there. Their drop off for overall attendance plummets when you get away from the team's home schedule.

Ryan Mullen 12 years, 3 months ago

drgn,

I think they are adding the number from the donar suites that where just built.

notaubermime 12 years, 3 months ago

drgnslayr,

They are counting a game in Sprint Arena as a home game. The article explains why, but it has a capacity of some 19,000. If you exclude the game in Sprint Arena, the average attendance falls to 16,300.

ldjayhawk 12 years, 3 months ago

Now I live overseas. Just want to go back to AFH so badly!

yates33333 12 years, 3 months ago

KU may not have the biggest arena (AFH), but it has the best. Which is more important?

tis4tim 12 years, 3 months ago

That's great news considering a report yesterday that said college basketball attendance was down across the board last season. The hype surrounding March Madness is apparently a driving force behind people caring less and less about the regular season. I think it's time to put conference regular season champs into the tourney with the automatic bid and make the conference tourney a nice bonus to the regular season. Of course, the conference tourney probably makes too much money to do that, but, we've seen what winning four games in four days does to teams in MM. So, does it really help the conference tourney if the top seeds lose "on purpose" to save themselves for the big dance?

Anyway, it's great that we have such awesome fans.

Tony Bandle 12 years, 3 months ago

I have a couple of friends in the AD Dept. and I asked them once, if Kansas had unlimited capacity, what would we average based on ticket sales, inquiries, waiting lists, etc.

Their answer was awesome. They said that Kansas could EASILY average 20,000 plus and may possibly approach 25,000!!

My only point is going to and being part of the Allen Fieldhouse exprience is almost as fun as the game itself. I wonder what would happen if they changed the venue.

As an architect, the only way I would design a new venue for KU would be:

1] It retains the name Allen Fieldhouse 2] The basic configuration stays the same. [Gabled roof, windows on each end, seats down to the edge of the court] 3] Would make sure there are seat backs and adequate railing and accessibilty accomodations. 4] Open roof framing for every banner and jersey to be relocated. 5] Add a statue sculpture garden with every Hall of Famer. 6] Relocate and expand the current Hall of Fame. 7] Stipulate that any additional seating [and I'd shoot for a minimum of 4K to 5K] would be forever designated as student seating and make sure it was damn close to the court!!]

To make a dream come true, you have to start with a dream.

Marcia Parsons 12 years, 3 months ago

Trouble is, you could duplicate the building on a grander scale, but you couldn't duplicate the history. It's hard to explain the feeling you get there that some traces of all the former players and games are still echoing around AFH. A new building would be nice but sterile.

Chris Shaw 12 years, 3 months ago

"If you build it, they will come" Let's hope they never build another Allen Fieldhouse. Anyone see that the Field of Dreams property is for sale at a cool 5.4 million?

Talk is happening that future owners want to put a hotel, waterpark, and other attractions on the property. Hmmmmmmmmm!

Tony Bandle 12 years, 3 months ago

Did the Field of Dreams with two work buddies one weekday in August, 1991. The corn was about 12'-0' high and the field had kids and dads playing catch and kids batting and running the bases.

It was truly magical...almost eerie, but in a very good way.

I totally agree that Allen should never be replaced, but if the unthinkable happened, every possible detail should be copied. Still, it's the people that make the magic and I think evertbody would be surprised at how relatively quickly The Phog would drift over and occupy the new site!!

Jack Wilson 12 years, 3 months ago

For all you Kentucky/Calipari freaks, a recent Lebron/Calipari story -- if Calipari goes with Lebron to Chicago, can we permit him to coach Kirk Hinrich?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebroncalipari051410

Jack Wilson 12 years, 3 months ago

And, of course, "freaks" is meant most affectionately.

jaybate 12 years, 3 months ago

} slayr,

LOL!

} "Why We Should Be Thankful for Cal at UKon"

Cal sucking up most of the top freshman each season means they are plugged into a team that is too green to win it all every year. If this talent dispersed instead to the most experienced teams, it would make all the experienced teams very, very tough, as Xavier made our team last season. Imagine Duke last season with any one of UKon's freshman last year playing a role on that Duke team; that Duke team would have been vastly better and not just have won it, but have won it handily. Conclusion: we need to keep Cal at UKon. Cal at UKON, with us getting one great player each season, to go with our experienced core of players each year, practically guaranties us a shot at a ring each season...once we learn to play XTReme Muscle Ball in March.

Tony Bandle 12 years, 3 months ago

Coach Cal's plan: Step 1, Establish the Lie. " I will be coaching at Kentucky next year."

Step 2. Set up the Rationalization. [ I've always wanted to Coach one of my MVPs, I've always wanted to Coach my good friend Labron, I want to go back to the NBA to take care of unfinished business -pick one, everybody]

Step 3. Make sure the Opportunities are in place. Open coaching jobs in Chicago, New York, soon in Cleveland and New Jersey, if he wants.

Step 4. Create the need. Labron goes nowhere without me!! World Wide West is my best friend!! Both Rose and Wall would love to play for me again!!

If this guy had lived in Renaissance Italy as a Borgia, he would have had the whole family poisoned by lunchtime!!!

Martin Rosenblum 12 years, 3 months ago

It is not actually a lie when he says that he'll be coaching at UK "next year". The "next year" is 2011 and is not "next season". If he had said that he'll be coaching at UK next season, that would iclude 2011/2012. He probably knows that he'll be gone for whatever reason by then.

Joshua Hann 12 years, 3 months ago

Well, hardly unless you are emplying that he will get fired by January 1st of 2011 and be rehired at UK.....not sure how your reasoning makes any sense in your head there.....and you know without being a smart*** that he means next season......

Martin Shupert 12 years, 3 months ago

More important stat: Student/Athletes percentage of classroom attendance. I would love to see everyone's stat on this and I'm willing to bet KU is very high in this category as well.

100 12 years, 3 months ago

Wow. There's a place on this Kentucky newspaper to vote on where Cal will coach next year. Isn't this exactly what he told Tiger's fans? And why did he say "next year" instead of "for the rest of my 8 year contract"?

Is he buying time here? Well, lucky for him he's not been spotted hanging out with The King's agent or anything, then it would be really hard to believe him.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/05/14/1264889/calipari-i-will-be-coaching-at.html

Kurt Eskilson 12 years, 3 months ago

I'm stunned that 78% honestly believe he'll stay at Kontucky. I voted – trying to inject some reality into the proceedings.

Jack Wilson 12 years, 3 months ago

martyks: Only important stats/items for a coach 1) did you follow NCAA rules, 2) are you ethical, 3) wins, and 4) NCAA championships. I don't care if any players get an education. That's their opportunity, and what they do with that opportunity is their choice. Players' academic achievement is their business, so long as they stay eligible. When it comes to basketball, we should be completely indifferent as fans to academics. Are we "fans" of putting the most players on an "all-academic" team? No.

Should we admire academic achievement given all of the time restrictions and expectations on athletes. Of course. But that has nothing to do with basketball.

By the way, what was Chalmers' GPA? That's right ... it doesn't matter. He was eligible to play and he hit the shot.

Martin Shupert 12 years, 3 months ago

Wow! You don't care if they get an education? You would be happier watching the NBA. Nothing to do with basketball? OMG. They are student/athletes. Go root for Kentucky. Your post is an embarrassment to Kansas University basketball.

Joshua Hann 12 years, 3 months ago

Agree here....sounds like a Mizzou tool. I'm very proud to say KU had the Academic All-American Player of the year where as UK had a laughable GPA. Actually they are here first for academics and are privileged to play basketball. You do seem like the perfect NBA fan. And you as heck better work your butt off to get the best grades you can because you are given a free education and there are thousands of students out there that would kill for and education from KU that have real world talents....as much as I love playing and watching basketball, no one deserves to be paid millions to do something that millions have as a hobby.

Kevin Kelly 12 years, 3 months ago

Wow that's a lot of people. How'd they get tickets???

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