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Originally published June 24, 2010 at 10:59p.m., updated June 24, 2010 at 11:28p.m.

Sherron Collins goes undrafted

Kansas guard Sherron Collins takes a three-pointer over Lehigh guard Marquis Hall during the first half Thursday, March 18, 2010 at the Ford Center in Oklahoma City.

Kansas guard Sherron Collins takes a three-pointer over Lehigh guard Marquis Hall during the first half Thursday, March 18, 2010 at the Ford Center in Oklahoma City.

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Are you surprised that Sherron Collins did not get drafted?

  • Yes 65% 1744 votes
  • No 32% 855 votes
  • Undecided 2% 64 votes

2663 total votes.

Kansas senior guard Sherron Collins was not selected during the two-round NBA Draft on Thursday night.

Collins, who was a consensus first-team All-America selection last season, averaged 15.5 points and 4.5 assists during his senior season.

“I think it’s disappointing," KU coach Bill Self said. "I can’t believe he is not one of the best 60 prospects to come out of this draft. I feel for Sherron but certainly it’s not lost. He’s put himself in a situation where he’s going to have to work harder and be more disciplined than he ever has been to show everybody they made a mistake. Hopefully this will be a big carrot for him to basically prove everybody wrong.

“To me there were many guys picked that can’t help a team win like Sherron can. But everybody has their own needs. I think it is very difficult to be critical of people until you have been in their rooms, heard the discussions and that kind of stuff. What I would do to educate Sherron is say don’t be mad at anybody, just change it.”

Comments

Matt Kenton 12 years, 1 month ago

When's the last time a first team AA wasn't drafted?

TJWhatleyLives 12 years, 1 month ago

Yea didn't see that coming. I guess making a run in the tourney really does help your draft status.

penguin 12 years, 1 month ago

Scottie Reynolds of Villanova was also an AA and did not get drafted.

Matt Kenton 12 years, 1 month ago

Wow. I wonder who the last AA was to never make an NBA roster?

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

You can bet this is more recent and more numerous than going undrafted. Then add in many more who only hung on 'til the end of their rookie contract. College and pro are not only different games, but different worlds.

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

deepind (anonymous) says… NBA proved that size does matter!!

What the NBA proved is that it's easier to measure size than intangibles. A sparkplug doesn't pan out, management is called to account. If they draft size and it flops, their asses are covered . . .

caddie733 12 years, 1 month ago

Not a surprise. Loved Sherron as a Jayhawk, but his game just doesn't translate well to the NBA.

swjhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

I'm sad Sherron didn't get drafted. I don't believe it had anything to do with how deep KU didn't get in the tourney. His size (lack of height and recent reports on weight) are likely what prevented a team from committing a pick for him. It also seemed to be a draft that, overall, favored height. We've had a lot of great players in Allen not get to the NBA. I hope he does.

Christopher Hauser 12 years, 1 month ago

Agree that the main factor of Sherron not being drafted was the concern over weight. The NBA season is long and the weight concern could have translated to the idea question, would he be able to sustain through an entire NBA season. I still think a team will give him a chance to play in the league and if not there is pleanty of money to be made overseas.

Marvin Huggins 12 years, 1 month ago

Not much different than some Heisman QBs not fitting into the NFL.

Charley10i70 12 years, 1 month ago

very good point, however, as an all-around player i felt Sherron was miles better than and more consistent than Cole and especially Xavier. I've been a long-time KU fan, i've seen better players than Xavier get passed up a bunch. it's unfortunate for Sherron that some NBA teams are banking on potential instead of what's proven. just my opinion, it seems like hard work and dedication DOESN'T pay off. I felt for Sherron and the whole team when they lost in the 2nd round, and i feel for Sherron now.

newyorkjayhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

i think heading into the final days the best chance of getting drafted was for the clippers and they made a trade during the draft to pick up eric bledsoe, filling the need for a backup PG to Baron Davis. otherwise, this was not a strong draft for PGs, despite Wall going first overall. the commentators all night were describing the nba as a league now where success is driven by effectiveness of a PG, and PGs were the most important factor in the nba right now. i disagreed with that from the start... sure the celtics made the finals because of rondo, and new orleans fell apart with the absence of Paul, but the league's best was driven by their SG (Kobe). the best player in the league outside of Kobe is Lebron (SF)... Cole made a great observation that a central figure in game 7 of the finals was how effective Gasol and Bynum were in defending the paint against KG and Co... Rondo was virtually invisible by the end of the playoffs. plain and simple, the nba's success stories are driven by play makers, regardless of position, and defense. hopefully collins makes a roster, but if not, he will be GREAT overseas, and deserves all the success that awaits him. he deserves nothing but solid support from our fan base, too, as he may hold title as winningest player in KU history for a long time.

Greg Ledom 12 years, 1 month ago

Sherron can flat out play. He is good enough to play in the NBA and whoever he gets picked up by will get a steal. Sherron will have a long NBA career. Stupid s outs think they have the right to say who will be good and who won't. None of you have the right to say that. Cause none of you or those scouts aren't anywhere near the athlete to play for college let alone high school. Stop telling people what they can and can't do. Sherron can play. And he proved that.

Theutus 12 years, 1 month ago

I think you need a bit of a reality check... Judging from your post, by drafting Collins, guess what would have happened? Another talented kid would have been undrafted....

This is a cut-throat business, and quite frankly, Collins would rarely even get a shot off with his height. In the NBA nowadays PG's have to be able to get shots off over guys 6'8, that are right up on them....

I love Collins, but i don't think he'll see serious minutes in the NBA, and definitely not a long career. Sorry, but that's just being a realist.

Greg Ledom 12 years, 1 month ago

Chris Paul Nate Robinson. How's that for realist. I'm not saying he's as good as them but same height and Sherron is just as fast. They all get shots off. Maybe you need a reality check.

Theutus 12 years, 1 month ago

Two guys. Two guys in the entire league that really don't put up much offense or shooting at all.

They are there to pass the ball. And Collins doesn't have a good history of being a great passer or creator. He was somewhat of a ball hog offensive player in college, in the NBA at most he'd be relegated to dribbling and passing.

And if you think Collins even remotely compares to Chris Paul, you need an even bigger check than i thought.

Mark Lindrud 12 years, 1 month ago

I would have been surprised if Collins got drafted honestly. He can't stay in shape, doesn't have a great shot, short and not that quick for his size. If he got drafted I didn't expect him to stay in the league very long.

Collins was great for the NCAA, but his game doesn't translate into the NBA. I hope he makes it somewhere, but it won't be in the NBA.

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

Stupid people (scouts included) are ones who do not learn (my def), or ones who keep doing the same things and expect different results (Al Einstein's def).

Most scouts recognize that their job is to say who is most likely to contribute to TEAM, not just individual, success; they bust their butts to both choose well and to improve in their judgements. Like any job, some are better at it than others, but not very often does the entire group miss.

Just because it wasn't a strong year for PG prospects is a poor excuse for spending a draft pick on one they wouldn't pick in another year (even if that would exhilarate some college fans).

DevilHawk 12 years, 1 month ago

Actually, that is Einstein's definition of insanity - and insanity should not be confused with stupidity.

jreppin11 12 years, 1 month ago

i was thinking magic at 59 the whole time.. all they have is jameer nelson as a PG on the roster right now.. jason williams is a free agent and its not like hes good anyway.. i hope that sherron gets an invite to their camp becuase he could be an important piece to a great team..

Sam Constance 12 years, 1 month ago

Collins not getting drafted says infinitely more about the NBA than it does his ability.

A guard with his speed, strength and ball-handling ability can be successful in the NBA, regardless of height. You bring him off the bench to spell your starter and you guarantee that your team is in capable hands that will make plays for his teammates, won't turn the ball over, and will make the occasional three-pointer or mid-range jump shot.

If a team is smart enough to bring him in for a tryout, they will get a steal for pennies on the dollar.

caddie733 12 years, 1 month ago

model5, are you Sherron's best friend or something? People have the right to make an assessment about someone, and you don't need to be an athlete or a former player to do it. How many sub-6 foot guys play regularly in the NBA? Not many, and most that do play at that height have superior quickness, they don't weigh 230 lbs. Sherron was a great Jayhawk, just like Raef LaFrentz, Wayne Simien, etc., but it doesn't mean that he will be a great pro. And by saying Sherron can flat out play, aren't you making an assessment of Sherron's ability too?

Sam Constance 12 years, 1 month ago

Collins is pretty darn quick with the ball, and he's got a lot more strength than your average sub-6-footer. I agree that it takes some kind of special skill to overcome that lack of height, but any player who can get into the lane as easy as he does can be successful in the NBA, even if it's only as a backup point.

Plus, last I heard, he checked into the NBA "combine" at only 9% body fat, weighing a lot closer to 200 lbs than 230 lbs...I think he was about 210...

caddie733 12 years, 1 month ago

I know he weighed in at 210 at the combine, but was closer to 230 at individual team workouts, which occurred more recently.

Collins has always had trouble with keeping the weight down, that is a quality that I'm sure teams see as a negative.

I guess we just disagree...I wouldn't say Collins is pretty darn quick with the ball. Maybe he is at 210, but not when he is at 230.

Greg Ledom 12 years, 1 month ago

Yes I am. Because he can. Sherron can play. I'm sick of scouts saying what players can't do. They wouldn't know would they

selfishhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

I felt awful for Sherron last night. But I think he knew going in that it wasn't going to be a good night, because his name was nowhere to be found in the Keegan article about X and Cole. My guess is Sherron knew and didn't want to talk to Keegan about it - hence Keegan's bitter article this morning.

In the end, we were really luck to have Sherron. I am proud of him as a Jayhawk. I wish him the best in the future. But he must own this if he is ever going to get a chance. Sure, some of this had to do with his height and the NBA constantly chasing taller players. But it also had to do Sherron putting on weight AGAIN. It had to do with the fact that he has baggage in Chicago. It had to do with the fact that he was tweeting with call girls. And it probably has something to do with the way he handled the last 3 months - e.g., taking out of lawrence immediately and refusing to return. All of that makes a GM very nervous.

Frankly, Europe might be good for Sherron. Good money. Long ways from Chicago. Healthier diet. And a place where he can learn that the world is bigger than himself.

p__pp_rs 12 years, 1 month ago

It's similar to Keith Langford's story. Beat up after four seasons in the Big 12 and too short for the NBA version of their position. I bet he does fine internationally, probably raise his kids in Italy as that seems to help...

jayhawkinATL 12 years, 1 month ago

Like some experts say, it's sometimes better to go undrafted than drafted late in the second round. I think Sherron will snag a job as a free agent.

hawksince51 12 years, 1 month ago

Between his heroics at the end of regulation in the 2008 NC game and his being the winningest player in KU history, Sherron truly is one of the greatest Jayhawks ever to wear the uniform. It is unfortunate that his size and skills are not what the NBA wants. In comments in a previous article he was compared unfavorably to J. Vaughn by others, and, to some extent, by me. But my comments were restricted to what it takes to get drafted and play Point Guard in the NBA. So far as his play at KU, I would take him over Vaughn hands-down. Vaughn was never capable of taking over a game the way Sherron did many times--the most memorable for me was the 2009 OU game but there were many others. Though unlikely, it is still possible that he will make an NBA roster. If not, he will certainly do well financially and on the courts of Europe.

Sam Constance 12 years, 1 month ago

If Greivous Vasquez is a first round pick, then Collins should be able to make an NBA roster and see some playing time.

I think Vasquez might be the worst pick of the draft.

Benjamin Piehler 12 years, 1 month ago

its too bad because the only thing holding this kid back from the first round was his height.

Benjamin Piehler 12 years, 1 month ago

sherron would be the best lacrosse player ever. hes built for that stuff! another life maybe...

Ron_Kellogg 12 years, 1 month ago

His skills and quickness deminished each year. He stuck around too long and was exposed.

DevilHawk 12 years, 1 month ago

That was a bit hard to take. As the draft wound down, I was hoping that the Suns would take Sherron at # 60 as the second backup behind Steve Nash and Goran Dragic. Instead, they took another Collins - and I have no idea where the team is headed.

Of course, it would be interesting if we find out that they meant to take Sherron Collins rather than Dwayne Collins.

Bear86 12 years, 1 month ago

Sherron will get his shot. I'm a little surprised he was not taken in the mid-late 2nd round. Sherron will always command my utmost respect. He was a warrior! This kid left it all on the court and I for one as many in the Jayhawk nation are eternally greatful. Good Luck Sherron!

didjabuti 12 years, 1 month ago

If you want to count only the games won by a single player, I would say he still could be the winningest Jayhawk of all time. Had to be at least 20 the last two years. Maybe Wilt could challenge, way too far before my time to know.

However if we win more next year than the year Brady sat out (was that 2008?) would people really call him the winningest Jayhawk?

Jacobpaul81 12 years, 1 month ago

Clyde Lovellette - was a 3 time all american, and as a senior led the nation in scoring, won an NCAA title, Helms player of the year, and NCAA MVP. Oh yea, and he's the only player in history to win a national title and lead the nation in scoring in the same year (28.4 ppg).

Danny Manning - 4 year starter, 2 Time All American - 4 year starter. 4 Tourney appearances, 2 Final Fours, 1 NCAA title. The 1986 jayhawks were the best college basketball team I've ever seen (I wasn't alive to watch the Wooden teams) but the 86 team, built around Danny, Ron Kellogg and Calvin Thompson was amazing. But those guys graduated in 1986. Manning went on to be the all-time leading scorer and rebounder in Kansas history over the next two seasons, and was the Big 8 player of the 80s.

There are others including Jo Jo and Wilt that come to mind long before Collins.

KUBlue0809 12 years, 1 month ago

Love Sherron to death. His jersey should be considered for the Allen Fieldhouse rafters. He is an incredible competitor for most of the year.... but you cannot show up for NBA weigh in 25+ pounds over weight. Sherron, you need to get down to 195-200 and prove them wrong. You can be the Nate of the Celtics. Rock Chalk, Congrats to Cole, Xavier (glad Carl is gone) and best of luck to Sherron.

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

For you to make that comment, you must be one of those guys with two heads who thinks with the smaller one.

Benjamin Piehler 12 years, 1 month ago

....which is 98% of the NBA. its a bummer, but id wager hes right.

Matt Kenton 12 years, 1 month ago

Funny, my wife said that too! (what azalum said) Then again, Cole is not afraid to do his own thing, so who knows.

jhwk215 12 years, 1 month ago

heading into the draft i wasn't sure on whether i felt he would get drafted or not but as i sat there watching player after player get picked i thought for sure sherron would go. his streghths of being about to drive the ball and get into the mix and finish shots was just not good enough apparently and yes his size effected the overall outcome. i think that he will be able to get into a few summer leagues and eventually land a team, just maybe not for a while.

WilburNether 12 years, 1 month ago

Unlike the rabid, unthinking fans who idolize KU players and completely fail to view them in an objective way, I predicted that Collins would not make it in the NBA, and it looks like all 30 NBA teams agree.

Collins was grossly overrated as a college player (not least by Coach Self, who put far too many eggs in the Sherron basket last season, ultimately costing us a far-too-early exit from the NCAA Tournament), but NBA general managers obviously will not make the same mistake.

I have nothing against Collins, and hope that even though he was not drafted, he will catch on with an NBA team in a situation that is right for him. But let this be a lesson to those who fawn mindlessly over KU players because...they are KU players.

KGphoto 12 years, 1 month ago

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Jacobpaul81 12 years, 1 month ago

Agreed. And the scouts were saying it for 4 years. He's small, not athletic, unable to create separation, shoots a poor percentage, can't man up on defense, and is too willing to drive into the trees, where surprise surprise, he's too small to shoot it.

Collins always reminded me of Jeff Bosche. A player the Kansas fans saw way too much in. To play guard in the NBA, you gotta be able to play. Period. Russell Robinson has a better chance of making an NBA team than Sherron Collins.

We must also remember, this a kid Bobby Knight said he's pull off the court. While the NBA might not always be the brightest bunch of charecters, would anyone question Bobby Knight about basketball? You know every scout, coach, GM, etc heard that.

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

Just because you are accurate in those assessments, don't expect them to be well received ... we are KU fans/alums, after all!

waywardJay 12 years, 1 month ago

Just a few thoughts.....

How many pro-players get drafted, and how many of them actually stick around.

Can Anyone say Hasheem Thabbett ?

The one I'm most concerned for is Xavier, actually.

He doesn't start if they keep Rudy Gay. He doesn't make an impact because he's 4th on the list to shoot whenenver he's on the floor thanks to Mike COnely's PG Game.... and he's too small to pick up the Boards in the NBA..... he's a project, and hopefully will end up on someone else's bench ala DJack before the project comers finalized...

Talk about a team in need of a back up point guard, Look no further than the Los ANgeles Lakers who need a STARTING point guard and passed on Sherron. Sherron fits the bill of Derek Fisher pretty will only he's about 4 steps faster and a better passer....

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

Sixty each year (current rules), and 'enough to fill the benches.'

Next question?

I agree DF in LA (as many rings as Kobe, more than Shaq) is the most comparable NBA player to SC of KU. For this kind of player, the situation has to be right.

1977kufan 12 years, 1 month ago

J-W Staff, An informative and interesting article. I now have a new summary of the NBA draft and the individuals making those decisions...mistakes after mistakes after errors after errors from individuals with a very limited ability to make a correct (certainly not a futuristically correct) decision. These individuals (GMs and others) do not have to be concerned about the words erudite and cognition - not in their vocabulary and certainly not in their decision-making. It is clear that they do not understand and cannot evalute the game of basketball and basketball players.

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

Which game of basketball? which players? • playground? • high school? • college Div I? II? III? • international? • NBA? NBADL?

jhox 12 years, 1 month ago

I see this as more about defensive match up problems than anything else. He struggled to guard people this past season, and that doesn't go unnoticed by scouts watching video clips. Offensively, he is more than capable of contributing to an NBA team. But if heart can overcome size deficiencies, he'll bounce back. There is nobody with a bigger heart and more desire to win.

JacquesMerde 12 years, 1 month ago

Further proof that life isn't necessarily fair. Although I hope he gets into the NBA, if not, I hope he goes to Europe and stars, becoming a multimillionaire there. This whole process is disgusting. The NCAA and NBA suck. Both are moonlight and magnolia plantation systems. A lot of sh*t.

John Randall 12 years, 1 month ago

"" Both are moonlight and magnolia plantation systems. A lot of sh*t.""

Which must be why you and I have such an appetite for fecal matter, pink blossoms and romantic interludes ...

JacquesMerde 12 years, 1 month ago

Speak for yourself, John. (Who knows you may be a John, KU62)

Jacobpaul81 12 years, 1 month ago

He's 5'10", he has a weight problem, he's unathletic, unable to create seperation, he dribbles with his head down and drives into the trees, expecting everyone to save his --- and he has an overinflated opinion of his own abilities. His shooting percentage on a whole was very poor (barely above Russell Robinson) while he took more shots than Brandon Rush and Mario Chalmers. Come on guys... did you really think Sherron Collins was going to get drafted?

ku_foaf 12 years, 1 month ago

I have no doubt Sherron will be making a lot of money in Europe. If he has put on weight, that may have hurt him quite a bit. It sound like he got a bad rep right before the draft. His strength is his greatest asset, and more valuable in a pro setting than in college.

DocBean 12 years, 1 month ago

Sherron put on too much weight. He struggled with weight all throughout college, and then couldn't keep it off before the draft. I don't care if he injured his groin; bottom line, you don't put on that kind of weight before draft day.

His height didn't help him any, but his weight is what scarred GMs away. You don't draft a guy that's under 6ft, and can't stay lean before he gets a paycheck.

His height dropped him to the 2nd round, his weight dropped him out of the draft.

Tony Bandle 12 years, 1 month ago

I think the one thing we all have in common is that it hurts to see a Jayhawk fail to meet expectations.

All of you who feel that Sherron is truly not an NBA talent, down deep still appreciate to some degree what he did at Kansas, and all of you who feel that Sherrron was one of the great Kansas players of all time, down deep recognize his shortcomings and issues.

All I'm asking is that we posters show the same class we demand of our heroes and quit bashing each other for each having their rightful personal opinion.

Jayhwaks are better than this!!

Tony Bandle 12 years, 1 month ago

Well, at least you come right to the point.

ku98 12 years, 1 month ago

Sherron weighed in at 229 just a couple of weeks. Was he trying to look like Khalid El Amin?

Jacobpaul81 12 years, 1 month ago

NBADraft.Net Report:

College: Kansas | Birthday: 3/18/87 | NBA Position: Point Guard | Class: Senior | Ht: 5-11 | Wt: 217

Strengths: Collins gives defenders a lot to handle from a college point guard ... He can push the tempo and utilize his great ball handling skills, with speed and explosiveness that might catch you off guard because of his stocky frame ... Much improved mid range game with nice elevation on his jumper, can shake his defender off the dribble and pull up ... Good body control, can stop and start on the dime ... Can spot up from deep, but only converting 36% from downtown... Elusive and able to get into the lane, he's more effective pulling up than taking it strong and drawing the foul due to his height ... Great vision when it comes to seeing open space, will beat you to the spot in the open floor ... Has a scorer's mentality, determined to beat his defender off the dribble ... Ability to penetrate opens up the court ... A clutch shooter and natural leader.

Weaknesses: Only 5'11 and more of a scorer than point guard playmaker, and he won't be able to play the 2 in the pros ... Defensively he gets beat off the dribble too often, and no where near tall enough to guard a 2guard at the next level ... Lack of height also a concern offensively as he will have a tough time finishing in the paint ... Will need to improve his shooting from deep to make up for potential inability to finish around the rim against taller and stronger defenders ... Not known for passing, averages only 4.3 assists but keeps down his turnovers (2.3) per game.

Overall: He's played 4 years on a consistently competitive and strong Kansas team and shown the ability to be a scorer and leader... However, needs to improve his playmaking abilities as a point guard if he wants to have a role on an NBA team ... His ability to score, his will to beat his defender, and his ball handling skills should make GMs think about him when looking at potential point guards, but usually small shoot-first point guards in college have a tough time making the transition to the pros. Of course, a national championship would surely help his cause.

Jacobpaul81 12 years, 1 month ago

You apparently don't read very well, or at least, read between the lines.

"usually small shoot-first point guards in college have a tough time making the transition to the pros." - Case-in-point... see Dee Brown.

"needs to improve his playmaking abilities as a point guard if he wants to have a role on an NBA team" - yea, no surprise here. Horrible team player.

"Only 5'11" - Easily trappable, Can't shoot over trees.

"Defensively he gets beat off the dribble too often, and no where near tall enough to guard a 2guard" - No surprises here. Most 2s are 6'4" - 6'8" in the pros. He can't guard them.

"Not known for passing, averages only 4.3 assists" - Not exactly NBA Point Guard numbers for a guy who spent his entire college career playing point.

"only converting 36% from downtown" - Mario Chalmers went in the 2nd round of the draft and he's 6'2", and shot 45% from downtown. Your really reaching here. Hell, Russell Robinson shoots a higher percentage in the d-league than Collins did in college.

trueblue9 12 years, 1 month ago

Maybe its just time to admit that KU doesn't produce NBA talent. In the modern draft era, only PP has panned out (although I give Mario a decent shot to be a starter, but not all-star, and Kirk has been decent but hasn't exceeded expectations). Brandon, Julien, Darrell, Wayne, Collison, Gooden, etc. etc. Unfortunately I see Cole and X falling into this group as well. But, this is one of the reasons why I love KU and college basketball, its not all about one-on-one, the team is bigger than the sum of the parts.

Benjamin Piehler 12 years, 1 month ago

x could be legit in the nba someday, but its pretty much a coinflip.

JacquesMerde 12 years, 1 month ago

Your last sentence is right on. That's why I hate pro basketball. You can go to any school yard in a large northern city and see where pros are made. I like the team concept as you note. Rock Chalk.

medington 12 years, 1 month ago

I to was disturbed as I watched the draft and saw some of the proposed draft picks in the second round. Sherron is a better player now than any of the guards that were picked. Scouts have to cover their butts so they go for what they call potential. They chose potentially over 6' 2" thin long wing span athletic types. They did not recommend Sherron because he does not fit that mold. If they would have recommended Sherron and he was not successful they would have egg on their face. If the potential types are not successful they can blame on lack of effort or some other reason.

We all love Sherron and have watched him dig us out of trouble more than once. It is what it is. Sherron may be more successful in the NFL than the NBA if he gains more weight. I think the NBA is concerned with injuries with him carrying an extra 30 lbs. They would like to see him at less than 200 and I would like to have seen that as well as I think he would have been a better all around player. If he can do that consistanly he can become successful. I think that's what the draft was trying to tell him. AS DID BS.

Lacy Mohler 12 years, 1 month ago

After four years at Kansas Collins was still one of the most easily trapped point guards in the Big 12. His size is a problem and the NBA report pretty much calls him short, slow and unwilling to give up the ball.

The scounting report says small shoot-first point guards (ball-hogs?) aren't successful in the pros. Sounds like Collins to me--and the national championship drive didn't make it past the 2nd round.

Never liked his style of play. It will be a breathe of fresh air when a "Collinsless" team steps out on the court in October.

Geekinout 12 years, 1 month ago

Couldn't agree more.. Sure he scored a ton of points, but also threw up a ton of shots in doing so, often shooting KU out of games with his ego. Plus, it's rumored that his of the court character was suspect.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS YEARS TEAM! We're going to be deep...

tis4tim 12 years, 1 month ago

While I agree with some here who say round two was a lot of drafting on potential, this particular year it had a lot to do with salary cap and clearing the decks in an attempt to lure LeBron James. Some of the Euro guys drafted were chosen even though it is unlikely they will ever play in the league. Sounds ridiculous, but that's how majorly loaded with max contract guys the free agent pool is this season. Sherron probably fell victim to that along with some of the other perceived negatives about his game. I think he'll get several shots to latch on with some team. I too was hoping the Suns would take him at #60. Nash isn't going to be around forever. Dragic is the heir apparent, but they would need a solid backup. Collins would do well in that system.

Lance Hobson 12 years, 1 month ago

Miles. Langford and even Simeon fell when they blue it in the tourney. These guys need to realize what else is at stake during March Madness.

Randy Bombardier 12 years, 1 month ago

Sorry to see this. No one is gutsy like Sherron. His work ethic will take him far no matter what he does.

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