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Originally published April 5, 2013 at 01:25a.m., updated April 5, 2013 at 01:13p.m.

Rio Adams might stay

Guard has second thoughts about transferring; Self says two will meet again

Kansas freshman guard Rio Adams watches second-half action from the bench during the Jayhawks’ home game against TCU on Feb. 23, 2013, at Allen Fieldhouse. On Tuesday, April 2, Adams announced on Twitter that he will transfer from KU.

Kansas freshman guard Rio Adams watches second-half action from the bench during the Jayhawks’ home game against TCU on Feb. 23, 2013, at Allen Fieldhouse. On Tuesday, April 2, Adams announced on Twitter that he will transfer from KU.

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Kansas guard Anrio Adams flexes his muscle after a dunk by Kansas center Jeff Withey against North Carolina during the second half, Sunday, March 24, 2013 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

Rio Adams, who has announced plans to leave Kansas University and was released from his scholarship Wednesday, is apparently having second thoughts.

“I’m going to speak with coach on Monday. I’ve decided to stick it out,” Adams, a 6-foot-3 freshman from Seattle, told the Journal-World late Thursday night.

He relayed that message to the J-W after posting on Twitter: “I’m not going anywhere I’m a Jayhawk for life,” and “I can’t go I love my team too much.”

Adams, who has expressed dissatisfaction about playing time his freshman season, said he’s reconsidered his position on that matter.

“I didn’t get what I expected,” Adams told the J-W, “but there have been other players in the past who have worked hard, and eventually it pays off. The scholarship is still there. Coach said we could talk Monday (when he returns from Final Four). I’m deciding to stay.”

Reached in Atlanta at the Final Four on Friday, KU coach Bill Self said he and Adams would "meet again" upon his return from Georgia.

Anniversary of ’88 title

It was 25 years ago Thursday that a Danny Manning-led Kansas University basketball team defeated Oklahoma, 83-79, to win the 1988 NCAA title in Kemper Arena in Kansas City, Mo.

The ’88 champions were recognized twice this season — at the 115 Years of KU Basketball reunion on Feb. 23 in Allen Fieldhouse and also at the Tulsa-SMU basketball game on Jan. 6 in Dallas. That’s the day several members of the team gathered to be interviewed for a CBS Sports Network documentary on the team that aired March 11.

Former KU All-America forward Manning is head coach at Tulsa; former KU coach Larry Brown is coach at SMU.

“That was neat,” Manning told the Journal-World, referring to the mini-reunion before Tulsa’s 48-47 victory. Brown’s Mustangs later won the rematch in Tulsa, 71-65. “We knew we weren’t the most talented team, but we all were willing to sacrifice for each other. We sacrificed. We played hard. We bought into coach Brown’s system, and we had guys who had great feel for the game.”

The team, which at one point in the season had a 12-8 record (KU finished 27-11), was nicknamed “Danny and the Miracles” — a nickname that bothers team-player Manning.

“We don’t talk every day,” Manning said of the ’88 players and coaches, “but whenever you talk to them, it seems like you talked to them yesterday. That’s everybody.”

Manning agreed to speak to the J-W about the other starters on the team:

Milt Newton: “You know, Milt didn’t miss a shot in the championship game (6-for-6, 15 points), which was huge for us,” Manning said of the Washington Wizards’ vice president of player personnel. “And people continue to not recognize that at times. Milt was someone who persevered. We had a lot of guys come in who played his position, but when he got his opportunity, he made the most of it.”

Chris Piper: “Pipe and I probably talked more in the last five to seven years than I have with most of those guys, but a lot of times it was because we were traveling together,” former KU assistant coach Manning said of former KU radio color announcer Piper, who had eight points and seven boards vs. OU in the title game. “We’d sit together on the plane and catch up and visit.

“He had his ear on the inner-circle of all the different things going on in the basketball community because of his profession (owner of Grandstand Sportswear and Glassware) so we always talked about a lot of different things, and I enjoyed those conversations.”

Jeff Gueldner: “We stay in contact through texting, and he would do camps, and we would talk about different ways of doing camps and our kids and that kind of thing,” Manning said of the Olathe businessman who scored two points in 15 minutes vs. OU.

Kevin Pritchard: “Kevin and I cross paths a lot because of our professions,” Manning said of the Indiana Pacers’ general manager. “Kevin was hurt, and we get him back for the NCAA Tournament, and we go on a run.” Pritchard had 13 points off 6-of-7 shooting with four assists vs. OU.

“Then you talk about Scooter Barry, Clint Normore, Lincoln Minor, Mike Maddox ... When we had our 20th-year celebration (on KU campus five years ago), a lot of guys came back, and we actually went to the alumni center on campus and got together there. That was the first time that most of us were in a room together watching the championship game together, and that was neat.

“Before that time, we all stayed in contact together through everybody else. So-and-so’s doing this, so-and-so’s doing that. Now, there’s more communication. We get email chains going, and we’re texting all the time.”

Selden excels

Future KU guard Wayne Selden scored 13 points off 5-of-7 shooting (2-of-4 threes) with five rebounds and three assists in the East’s 110-99 loss to the West in the McDonald’s All-America game, Wednesday in Chicago.

“Coming out here with all the guys and being able to score a few buckets, get a few assists and a couple rebounds ... it always feels great to play with a great group of guys,” Selden told boston.com.

He played some point guard during the game and afterward was asked if he’ll play some lead guard at KU.

“If I just keep developing,” he said. “I feel like I can play all three guard positions, and I’m just working on defending all three guard positions right now. I’m just trying to get to that next level.”

Selden and KU signee Joel Embiid will compete in the Jordan Brand Classic at 7 p.m., April 13, at Barclay’s Arena in Brooklyn, N.Y. It will be aired on ESPN2.

Wiggins, Parker compete, too

Andrew Wiggins, a 6-foot-8 forward from Huntington (W. Va.) Prep who will pick either KU, Kentucky, North Carolina or Florida State at a yet-to-be-determined date, scored 19 points in the game. He went up against Duke-bound Jabari Parker of Chicago Simeon, who had 10 points and eight boards.

“Me and Jabari, we are friends, both great players,” Wiggins told the Chicago Sun Times. “I know I’m going to see his face a lot at the next level and the level after that. I consider it a great learning experience. I’m just glad to be here. Going against Jabari is just the best going against the best.”

Comments

ljmhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

I've been a fan if rio but honestly he needs to go...sorry but you just can't get released from your scholarship and then less than 36 hours later decide you want to stay...he needs to go.

Steve Corder 6 years, 3 months ago

And tell me WHY he needs to go? He's a freshman, and that says it all. Extend a little grace here and let the kid learn, grow and mature as a Jayhawk. He just might hit that winning championship shot for us someday.

741hawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Tyshawn was immature and grew-up under Bill's guidance.

kellerman411 6 years, 3 months ago

He's like 18 years old... it's what they do. The bottom line is he has the physique and talent to be a first round draft pick. He is like Tyshawn only with a stronger build.

Bobby Burch 6 years, 3 months ago

Regardless if he stays or goes, all KU fans have this beautiful stroke to look forward to ... Spoiler Alert ... Frankcamp KILLS IT! http://bit.ly/XuhIgZ

Suzi Marshall 6 years, 3 months ago

Holly Hell....where and when was this even held? After watching how far Ellis needed to improve to elite D-1 level, I was never high on Frankcamp, thinking he was a "coutesy scholarship." However, after watching this, that young man has a stroke!!! Noticed at the very end when showing his picture in the program B. Greene was next to him.

Luca Rossi 6 years, 3 months ago

Wow, chill out. There are a bunch of great Kansas players that were in his same shoes at one time. Its normal for kids his age who are big time competitors to get frustrated with playing time and seriously consider transferring. No true competitor is satisfied being on the bench. Rio went a little bit farther than someone like Chalmers who also was very close to transferring his freshmen year. The important part is that realized the great opportunity he has at KU and wants to stick it out and I'm glad he did. RJCH Rio.

Dirk Medema 6 years, 3 months ago

Most know better than to have public discussions about it.

Jory Collins 6 years, 3 months ago

Most of those gusy didn't have twitter. You can bet RussRob and Chalmers both would have had to delete a couple tweets if it was available to them. Kids don't understand social media these days.

He's a young immature kid that is very talented. As soon as he grows up he could be a really nice player.

actorman 6 years, 3 months ago

Guess I should have refreshed before making my comment. Funny how it was nearly identical to yours, jc.

Jory Collins 6 years, 3 months ago

Most of those guys didn't have twitter. You can bet RussRob and Chalmers both would have had to delete a couple tweets if it was available to them. Kids don't understand social media these days.

He's a young immature kid that is very talented. As soon as he grows up he could be a really nice player.

actorman 6 years, 3 months ago

A lot of them had their issues before social media became as big as it is now. Who knows how many more might have done the same thing if it was as common as it is these days?

He's displayed some immaturity, but how many freshmen in college are NOT immature? He's just going through some growing pains.

jhox 6 years, 3 months ago

If Coach lets him stick around after what transpired, then I'm fine with it. That would likely mean that Self feels he can be a contributor down the road. I'd make him close his Twitter account though.

Joel Hood 6 years, 3 months ago

So, is that what you posted in 2005 about Russel Robinson when it was widely know he wanted to transfer?

Adam Evans 6 years, 3 months ago

There's a difference between wanting to transfer and talking about it, to actually being released from your scholly and told good luck.

Joel Hood 6 years, 3 months ago

yes, we should crucify Anrio since he is a 19 year old on Twitter

Jonathan Allison 6 years, 3 months ago

changing his mind might be the most mature decision that he's made since he's been at KU.

It's not easy to admit that you were wrong, and if he indeed does get to retain his scholarship then just maybe he HAS learned something and grown a little since he's been at KU.

Ryan Michael 6 years, 3 months ago

Trying to imagine myself in his shoes... This is probably one of the most humbling situations he could have at this point. He has to go talk to Self and plead for his slot back.

The fact that he's willing to do this is a step in the right direction, and the fact that he's going to "owe" coach Self for allowing him to stay may be the push they both need to make things work. I sincerely hope Rio buys into the program hard, busts his ace over the summer and contributes on the court next season. By his junior/senior year he could really be a star.

John Randall 6 years, 3 months ago

I am sure Anrio has spent lots of time the past few days with a comparison of KU freshmen facing his situation who went elsewhere with those who stayed to work things through. Maybe even spoken with a few. There is a much wider spread among of results among the former than the latter.

David A. Smith 6 years, 3 months ago

I have to differ. His change of heart shows character on several levels.

Dirk Medema 6 years, 3 months ago

Sveral levels, like his mom's level and his dad's level? He did say he needed to talk to his family. Almost sounds like, "You just wait til your father gets home."

David A. Smith 6 years, 3 months ago

Maybe. But, he's worked hard, attended classes and for whatever reason has decided to stick with it. I don't know that the reason ultimately matters. Kids (and college kids are still kids) need guidance- so if it was due to guidance, good. On the other hand, if he "came to himself", good.

Mark Lindrud 6 years, 3 months ago

I agree, bye kid. Look, he's been complaining all year then gets his reprieve to leave, then he decides he might want to stay. He needs to learn you have to live with hard decisions. Also, who's to say he doesn't whine about time next year. I've already looked at our team next year and I like what I see. Rio, go to a new school and grow up kid. I hope a few years down the road he matures and becomes a nice player, but we don't need anymore of his drama.

Michael Bratisax 6 years, 3 months ago

So we would be better without having Rio backing up Tharpe at the point guard position? I understand that Frankamp is coming but like Tharpe, they both lack size.

Rio will be getting about the same amount of minutes that Tharpe played this year. I admit it is difficult to compare their freshman seasons as both played on a very short leash but overall, I still think Rio is a good get.

I admire the fact that you were extremely decisive when you were his age and lived with those "hard decisions" but Rio is probably more like the rest of us were when we were his age.

actorman 6 years, 3 months ago

Hell, I'm still indecisive and I'm nearly three times his age!

Mark Lindrud 6 years, 3 months ago

Hes obviously been thinking about this throughout the year. If he does stay he needs to understand there's more competition coming in. He will need to step it up and get off of the social media. Going public doesn't make him look very mature. I'm certain when he talks to Self there will be a set of expectations similar to what happened with Tyshawn

John Randall 6 years, 3 months ago

I don't remember complaints – expression of frustration, sure. Before social media miasma, he'd have worked this through with people he could trust – instead of weathering the response from naive, self centered s-f-b types on those networks.

Dirk Medema 6 years, 3 months ago

Not sure about "he needs to go" or "he needs to stay". The latter sounds like maybe he had the RussRob conversation with his parent - You quit on KU/Coach Self and come runnning home, and I'll kick your a$$. Or maybe he talked to a couple coaches and found out how much playing time is available for PG's with 1:2 A:TO ratios.

What I am certain of, and can see Coach making a requirement is that he shut-up and shut-down (the twits. If you twitter, does that make you a twit?). Players shouldn't be holding their own mini-press conferences. Maybe he just needs to attend the Tyshawn Taylor School of Effective Communications. Or he can continue to learn the hard way.

Sam Constance 6 years, 3 months ago

I'd prefer to keep Rio and have you go, honestly.

ljmhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

he was officially released from KU... papers signed and all. now he wants to come back? sorry...if I was self I'd say goodbye. sounds like those other schools he wanted to transfer to didn't want him.

Sam Constance 6 years, 3 months ago

Good thing you aren't Self. I'll be considerably more willing to defer to Self's judgement than a message board commenter.

At least Self's decision will be made with internal knowledge of Rio's actual attitude and feelings about the whole situation, and not based on some expectation of following through because he already said he wanted to go.

Benz Junque 6 years, 3 months ago

That's ridiculous. Rio is a young kid trying to figure out what to do. There is some indecision. If he chooses to stay at KU because he loves his teammates and loves playing here too much to leave then KU basketball is better off for it. I hope he stays. A kid that has to work and fight to get on the floor usually appreciates it more when he finally gets his shot.

Benz Junque 6 years, 3 months ago

Heck, I would worry about what type of heart he had if he WASN'T bothered by not getting out on the floor more. So long as he realizes that he needs to put in the WORK to earn those minutes then he will be fine. Many of these kids simply aren't used to having players on their team that are better than them. It's a harsh slap in the face to some of them.

Greg Lux 6 years, 3 months ago

Kids ( and they are kids away from home ) get frustrated when they don't get what they want or think they deserve (playtime). I congratulate Rio for staying and growing into a man. I have always loved what little I have seen of Rio and I am sure he will be a great guard for KU in the future. I won't say welcome back because once a Jayhawk always a Jayhawk . Great decision Rio I look forward to seeing your future at KU.

Rock Chalk

EverRisingHawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio I'm so glad to hear you are sticking around. This change of heart shows a lot of maturity and I think you will develop into an awesome guard under Self's tutelage. For those saying he should leave, try developing a little empathy and understand the position he is in. Rio wants to showcase the talents that he knows he has, and he has doubts about where best to do that. I would prefer that all the naysayers leave and Rio stays.

Michael Bratisax 6 years, 3 months ago

ljmhawk..I completely understand where you are coming from. My first thought was very similar but then I needed to remember what it was like when I was his age. I couldn't even decide on a major. Rio obviously likes being an Jayhawk and I've never heard negative comments about him or from him in regards to his teammates. Let's not push the kids out the door for acting like an 18 or 19-year-old.

This kid has talent and like Tharpe, he will be getting a lot more minutes in his sophomore year. Tharpe had some of the fastest yanks after making a mistake then just about any other player I can remember under Self during his freshman year.

I honestly think he will be a much better point guard then Tharpe and it will definitely relieve some of the pressure at the PG position and allow Frankamp to grow into his position.

MimiHawk 6 years, 3 months ago

I am glad he's decided to stay... I hope it works out that he can. RCJH Rio. I know I made a few bad decisions when I was his age, and would love to have another chance to make a better choice.

Steve Zimmerman 6 years, 3 months ago

Too bad there's no THUMB DOWN icon here. This would've been my pick!

Kent Wells 6 years, 3 months ago

This post is from the future telling you you've made another one of those mistakes in your past....

wrwlumpy 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio, If you come back, there are 4 really good guards coming to KU. This guy will make it tough for Frankamp and Greene, and Mason to get on the court, let alone Rio. http://www.battlesport.it/video/wayne-selden-official-hoopmixtape-explosive-guard-can-pass

wrwlumpy 6 years, 3 months ago

Also the high school senior slam dunk and 3 point contest for the final four which will be shown tomorrow has a picture of the two winners. See if you can recognize the 3 point winner with not only the net around his neck but also the rim.

wrwlumpy 6 years, 3 months ago

Also the high school senior slam dunk and 3 point contest for the final four which will be shown tomorrow has a picture of the two winners. See if you can recognize the 3 point winner with not only the net around his neck but also the rim.

dylans 6 years, 3 months ago

I see Fankamp with a silver. Who's got the gold?

Bill Skeet 6 years, 3 months ago

Wow. I think Rio should have learned that it's better not to surprise your coach through the media.

I'm a fan of his.. he has potential.. but more to learn on and off the court.

It will be interesting to see how Coach Self handles this.

BigDBigJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

I bet HCBS tells him he doesn't have a schollie. Good luck Mr. Adams.

Kevin Huffman 6 years, 3 months ago

He has THREE so long as Mc leaves. I'm sure he's not going to mind letting Rio keep his - doesn't necessarily mean that we won't STILL add at least one more player though.

If he DOES let Rio keep his, then I would suspect that we're not going to get a G with any other scholarship that we might give out though.....either a F or a C.

BigDBigJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

I can count. I meant he doesn't have a schollie FOR HIM. I guess it comes down to whether HCBS thinks he has enough depth at SG...

Jeremy Hays 6 years, 3 months ago

Ok I've seen on here people BLAST Rio yet telling him to be more team oriented and being more humble. The kid decides that he wants to be part of a team and wants to to stay band be team oriented and humble. Then we BLAST him and say I hope they don't give this kid a scholly back!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! KU SPORTS Posters Grow up, be a little more humble yourself and think about a 18 year old kid and some tough decision that he is going through!!

dylans 6 years, 3 months ago

Red shirt him to check his commitment to the team and let 'Rio get his academics under control.

Marcia Parsons 6 years, 3 months ago

Agreed,bskeet. This is the second time Rio has blindsided Self through the media. First was announcing he was leaving, and now that he is staying. Seems a very foolish move to me. Never a good idea to publicly force your coach's hand, specially this coach who likes to keep team issues in the locker room.

Sarah Carr 6 years, 3 months ago

I hope he stays, works hard, and becomes even more of a fan favorite! It sounds like he grew up a bit in the last 36 hours. Come on back, Rio!

LngTimeFan 6 years, 3 months ago

I hope he can use this step in life to mature. All he need do is look at the list of KU players in the pros and see few of them started their first 2 yrs, many redshirted. Yet they are having great pro careers. How many KSU and MU players do you see on those lists? Only a couple. Selby thought he was far better than his ego and family led him to believe, and he is doing nothing really as a pro. Commit to being a team player and learn all you can every day, and you will be more than welcomed back. Listen to the coaches, work hard.

DanR 6 years, 3 months ago

I hope he can pull his act together and stay, but I wonder why the change of heart. Maybe the LJW can do one of those reader polls.

  1. Offers from UCLA, UW, Gonzaga, Cal didn't pour in as fast as the ones from mid majors and community colleges.
  2. He didn't realize he was going to have to sit out a year.
  3. Chalmers and RussRob gave him a call and told him he was an idiot for giving up on KU.
  4. Girlfriend issues.
  5. Grandma back in Seattle already converted his old bedroom into a sewing room.

Mark Lindrud 6 years, 3 months ago

I wish we all grew up in 36 hours then. Let him go. Players coming in need to understand if you're going to whine and complain then you don't belong, especially if you do it publicly.

Dr. Robert s. Mosser 6 years, 3 months ago

What limited playing time Rio had looked pretty good to me. Having second thoughts about leaving is just a reflection of some frustration and most of the better players have had some time with frustration. RIO STAY. There will be playing time this coming year. Two years of coaching withe CS will show and you will be glad you did. Whether you play professional ball or want to coach the upside of staying in a premier program is huge.

Dirk Medema 6 years, 3 months ago

1:2 A:TO ratio is pretty good for a PG?

Really? Sounds like you didn't see much.

texasjayhawk91 6 years, 3 months ago

He's not a point guard. He's most certainly a 2-guard, and that's not debatable. Came to KU listed as a SG, will continue to develop as a SG.

Jim Tebow 6 years, 3 months ago

He played the point during every minute he was in this year

notjustbread 6 years, 3 months ago

So was Scott Pollard making his only attempt on Senior night.

Dirk Medema 6 years, 3 months ago

Definitely agreed that population size is significant (it's not a sample, which would be only a part of the whole), tho part of the counter-point is the question, "Was there more than one game (Big12 Tourney) that warranted more than mop up minutes."

As for your just like, if your big makes 1 out 10 TPA, should we really consider him a good perimeter shooter? Mybe he becomes the next Dirk, but is there really anything to lead us to that conclusion.

David Hall 6 years, 3 months ago

IT MAY NOT BE OVER WITH SO DO NOT GET YOUR HOPE UP HE HAS NOT TALK TO COACH YET

actorman 6 years, 3 months ago

HOPEFULLY WHEN HE TALKS TO COACH HE WON'T BE SCREAMING LIKE YOU ARE!!!

Ron Franklin 6 years, 3 months ago

"They'll stone you when you're trying to be so good.

They'll stone you just like they said they would.

They'll stone you when you're trying to go home.

They'll stone you when you're there all alone.

But I would not feel so all alone.

Everybody must get stoned"

--B. Dylan

KEITHMILES05 6 years, 3 months ago

That is not true. He HAS spoken with Self. Just read the article from a couple days ago. It is obvious he is not up to par on his studies as well as athletics. Self said it.

This will be interesting to watch to see how Self handles things. I agree it was not a good move on Rio's part to be talking to the media prior to Self.

Kevin Huffman 6 years, 3 months ago

If this is true, then maybe he DOES get the scholarship back but gets redshirted to just get acclimated to everything.

THAT'S probably what got Rio ticked off to where he announced his transfer. Other KU players, realizing the year off at other schools closer to home, knowing what a future at KU would hold - - - numerous things probably had him wise up and reconsider.

BUT taht wouldn't surprise me AT ALL!!!

If that's the route, then we might STILL end up using 2 schollies on G's as Rio could be brought back but not to play until '14/'15.

Suzi Marshall 6 years, 3 months ago

Not talking further with Self before making this kind of public statement is not a great decision. From Self's statement, it also seemed to me his grades were an issue. Nevertheless, whatever Self decides, I'm 100% supportive.

Kip_McSmithers 6 years, 3 months ago

KU had an APR of 1,000 for the 5th straight year. Not sure that we could get a perfect score if Rio didn't have good grades. Maybe I've missed it some where but has Self came out and said that his grades weren't passing? Or are you reading too much into Self's comment: “Anrio and I met about his future, both academically and athletically, and we believe it is in his best interest to look into potential opportunities that may exist closer to home.”

Dirk Medema 6 years, 3 months ago

A marginal academic performance in the first year wouldn't hurt the APR.

Kip_McSmithers 6 years, 3 months ago

"The Academic Progress Rate is a Division I metric developed to track the academic achievement of teams each academic term. Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one retention point for staying in school and one eligibility point for being academically eligible. A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by one thousand to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate score."

I read that as he was academically eligible last semester. As for this semester we don't know if he's passing or not. I'm guessing he was or Self wouldn't have suited him out in the tourney. So until Rio, Self, or KU says he's academically failing I don't see the need for people to bash this kid about it.

John Strayer 6 years, 3 months ago

If I understand correctly..and that may be a stretch...his leaving in bad academic standig would probably be worse for KU's APR than staying and working through his academic issues.

Steve Zimmerman 6 years, 3 months ago

CRAP! WHAT KIND OF BS IS THIS? I REALLY HOPE YOU'VE LEFT THE CAMPUS. If the scholarship has already been released, that means KU won't even try to keep him in the team. He's not our priority. Does this mean we won't get Wiggins? Shucks.

archercc 6 years, 3 months ago

This wont impact Wiggins, we have scholarships. Our big issue with Wiggins is I don't think those top 5 kids are really gunning for Kansas.

Jonathan Allison 6 years, 3 months ago

I highly doubt that he has left campus mid-semester. My guess is even if he ends up not coming back he still finishes the academic year in Lawrence.

Any students online who know when the last date to drop a class is?

John Randall 6 years, 3 months ago

That could be the kicker in this whole kettle of fish ... is the team APR more important than a second chance for a marginal player to mature?

Does dropping out during semester simply remove a player from APR calculations?

Kip_McSmithers 6 years, 3 months ago

No. Counts against us. That's why The Cuse is minus two schollies.

duanep5ku 6 years, 3 months ago

It's the final 4 weekend, and no KU. So I guess we might as well have something to read about,to keep us going. The Rio soap box continues, just kidding but seriously Rio good luck and I hope it works out for the best. I do hope the faithful Kansas fans will cut you some slack and give you a break, if you do stay with Kansas. Good luck Rio

Kent Wells 6 years, 3 months ago

Apparently someone has spiked this kids invisowheaties. I'm not a big fan of soap operas, but this one is a fixin' ta get interesting..

Kent Wells 6 years, 3 months ago

Honestly WJL, I think that the '88 team deserved its own article. It shouldn't be linked up with this nonsense.

Rock Chalk 6 years, 3 months ago

I agree a separate article regarding the '88 team, but not that this is nonsense. It is drama. That's what makes Rio who Rio is: Passionate, super funny (check out his soup-eating gifs on phog.net message boards) and an athlete eager to compete.

klineisanazi 6 years, 3 months ago

He still doesn't get it. Tweet before you even talk to Self? And how has his competitive and academic situation changed in the last 48 hours? It hasn't.
Kids these days.

Billy Derringer 6 years, 3 months ago

wiggins on seeing parker alot at the next level then again at the next level .....sounds like he is going to be in the ACC an don the UNC jersey...either way i dont care. how damm hard is it to pick a damm school already, what a media hor.

jhox 6 years, 3 months ago

I see more and more comments from him about Kentucky. I hope this class really backfires on Calipari. If enough one and done type guys end up sitting on the bench too much (and looking at the numbers that is bound to happen) other coaches will be able to use that in their negative recruiting against him (much like they use the Selby situation against Self.) Or so I can wish.

Icing on the cake would be a fairly quick tournament exit from them next year.

Bob Thompson 6 years, 3 months ago

Or no NCAA tournament, and a quick exit from the NIT like this year.

BigDBigJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

If they get Wiggins, they win the title. Only thing that is going to crush this "Kentucky model" is a restruture to the NBA rules that allows kids to declare for the NBA out of HS.

Chris1955 6 years, 3 months ago

I suspect that UK getting Wiggins may be the tipping point for the NCAA to announce an investigation of Calipari and the Kentucky program. The NCCA can't allow a bunch of HS kids to emulate LeBron James in "deciding" who gets to win the NCAA championship. The NCAA has self preservation to think about, and with Calipari's track record, they know they can finds "something" if they just look hard enough.

I can't imagine that UK's Board of Regents are really pleased with UK being the poster child for NBA pre-school. This can't continue.

Suzi Marshall 6 years, 3 months ago

If the NBA restructures, it will require 2 years of college instead of 1. No way will the NBA go back to signing kids right out of HS due to financial considerations. NBA teams lost BIG when they did that.

AIRCAV67 6 years, 3 months ago

Let Wiggins go to Kentucky aka "Thug U" we don't need him or Randle. I watched the McD All-American game and Randle looks week. A small upper body no shoulders. Ellis would take Randle to school.

63Jayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

I don't understand why KU fans would rag on 18 year old kids who choose not to attend our school. If Wiggins were to choose KU and Randle had chosen KU. We all know that you and others would be telling us how great they're going to be.

Posts that belittle a kid for choosing another school do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help Coach Self recruit.

Randle and Wiggins are both outstanding talents and I would like very much to have them become Jayhawks, but if they choose to go elsewhere, it does not diminish theiir talent.

Let's face it, Calipari, the Kentucky facilities, and the boosters make for great recruiting. I have my questions about what else might be going on there, but I do not know for certain that anything else is going on.

If you listened to Randle's comments well before he announced his decision, he talked very positively about his relationship with "Coach Cal". It seemed obvious to me that Randle really liked "Coach Cal" and that he had a long term relationship with him. The guy somehow gets the kids to like him. He also appears to use social media effectively.

Coach Self says that he wants to add two "immediate impact" players to his 2013 recruiting class. I wonder who he has in mind besides possibly Wiggins. Could he have in mind players that are verbally committed to other schools, did not sign letter's of intent? I could be wrong, but I don't think that kids like Randle, Wiggins, and Gordon are eligible to sign a letter of intent. If so, hey could be "fair game" until they enroll at a school. I don't really expect Randle or Gordon to change to KU, but there may be others who ARE reconsidering. Is he considering JUCO players?

zku42 6 years, 3 months ago

we do play duke next year, but still he isnt coming to lawrence

KULA 6 years, 3 months ago

I'd be very glad to see Rio stick it out. I think he could be a great talent for us. Wouldn't be surprised if Bill makes him redshirt if he wants to stay.

And I hope Rio doesn't read all the haters on this board. These are the same guys who hated Tyshawn Taylor, who only managed to win 127 games in four years as a Jayhawk. Some of these clowns would turn on their own mother if she missed a free throw. But not their father figure. They'd just say missing a free throw was part of his master plan and he's a genius.

Welcome back Rio--glad to have you. But not without a little tough-love, which I'm sure Bill will provide.

rockchalkchalkin23 6 years, 3 months ago

Haha, self 'watch dog' ralster didn't catch your shot at his idol.

Jack Jones 6 years, 3 months ago

I, too, am pleased to hear that Rio is reconsidering his decision, and hopefully will be returning. He obviously has the talent ~ look who recruited him to Kansas University. The maturity that has/will come as a result of this past season and these past several days, will prove to be extremely valuable as his basketball ~ and life~ careers progress.

My money says that he will be a significant factor in the Jayhawk's continued success, as we complete the "Decade of Dominance" in the Big 12 conference.

Oh~ one more thought~ Please don't hold your breath on Wiggins. As history shows us, we don't really have much success in recruiting these #1's thru 5's one-and-done'rs ~ thru absolutely no fault of our own. These kids have been told over and over just how great they are ~ with justification ~ and they really can only see themselves wearing a Duke, a Kentucky, a North Carolina or a Louisville uniform. The "east coast eyeball exposure factor" vs Lawrence, KS/Kansas University is too bright a light in these 18 yr. old heads.

But that's plenty OK with me. We've proven year after year that we can more than successfully compete with any other college basketball program without them. Our incredible list of Head Coaches ~ combined with our unmatched tradition of winning ~ far outweighs the loss of any OAD. Our coaches ~ present company prime example ~ can take a group of 2-3-4 star players and mold them into a TEAM that can defeat anyone on any given day/night ~ 2012-13 team prime example. Last game not withstanding ~ this year's team won game after game down the stretch when it was a "must win" situation. We'll be just fine.

Jesse Johnson 6 years, 3 months ago

Just pointing out a fact: Our team of 4 star players this year failed to make it past the second weekend. It was a team of 5 star players in 2008 that won the championship (Rush, Chalmers, Arthur, Collins were all 5 star players backed up by 4 star players Jackson, Kaun and Russell Robinson). I think we need to go for that type of mixture again to have the best chance of winning a NC.

Jim Tebow 6 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, and last years team that made the national championship game only had 1 five-star (Elijah)...so your point doesn't make sense

Michael Bratisax 6 years, 3 months ago

Losing in the Sweet 16 this year was a major disappointment but next season is going to be a real challenge to even get back to the dance. I think we have an outstanding recruiting class and add in AW3, maybe Rio, and of course Ellis, we will have one of the most talented young group of players I've seen at Kansas.

But HCBS is going to need to be a little more patient with his freshman next year as only three players have much game experience. If we were to make the Sweet 16 next year, I think that would be an extremely successful season. I guess it's all in expectations and perspective.

Jesse Johnson 6 years, 3 months ago

I don't disagree with you Ralster. I've loved our teams the past 5 years. I am just disagreeing with posters who say they don't want 5 star players at all. I think we should take 'em if we can get 'em.

I really think our biggest weakness this year was just shear lack of offensive talent. Ben McLemore was a star but having players like Young on the floor and nobody else being able to consistently knock down threes made it hard to spread the defense.

I agree though, we are so spoiled. Especially after 2008 where we had a dangerous scorer at every position. I just would never say no to picking up another Chalmers or Rush.

John Randall 6 years, 3 months ago

All this talk about ✩s gets wearisome. Any player should be evaluated for fit in our program, regardless of AAU scoring average.

Hawk8086 6 years, 3 months ago

I think it would be great if he stays as long as he has the right attitude. He does have very good athletic ability and skills that just need some developing. We'll see how it plays out when CS returns. As far as the haters go.......sadly, they exist on every schools site. A friend of mine is an IU grad. He says that if any recruits read the comments on their board, nobody would ever go to IU.

yates33333 6 years, 3 months ago

You realize how young these players are when things like Rio happen. My question would be whether this type of antic hurts the team. If he stay will he be a demoralizing factor on a very, very young team? Not knowing the circumstance beyond what you read in the newspaper, I would not take him back, but there may be things happening that would make me change my mind.

Robert Lofthouse 6 years, 3 months ago

Let your yea be yea, and your nay be nay.

He makes his decision to leave, then talks with Coach.

He makes his decision to leave, then says he needs to talk with his family.

He makes his decision to leave, then changes his mind, announces his change of decision, and now he has to talk with Coach.

Someone said it earlier, "kids these days".

What does this say about his on court decision-making? Didn't we just go through some of this?

Page Butler 6 years, 3 months ago

I Like Rio. It would be better for him to stay if he wants to play next year. Second thoughts are party of life and if he wants to change his mind then I understand. I think we just be fans and watch. It is his life and our entertainment.

Brad Avery 6 years, 3 months ago

Takes me back to the summer of 2001 when many gathered in Memorial Stadium to hear Uncle Roy tell us, "Ahm stayin'." after he and Wanda took their secretive "last" emotional tour of the campus and past the Chi Omega fountain. How could I leave all of this, Roy wondered? So he told the 20,000 or so who gathered in the stadium to hear his decision that he would retire as a Jayhawk and Dean Smith would just have to go out and find himself another coach,. And all the KU fans were happy and relieved. And we drank free coca cola. It was, after all, his favorite drink. What a night because Uncle Roy was stayin' ! And we all lived happily ever after. The end.

Bob Thompson 6 years, 3 months ago

Well said, that is exactly why I can never forgive "Uncle Roy". I am glad he left, and glad we have coach Self. I just don't respect someone who will lie to your face like he did.

Erin England 6 years, 3 months ago

I respect Roy's talent as a coach. He's a good one in his own way. However, I don't respect the decision he made. That will always make me a little angry, but I think we got the better end of the deal out of it. Self is amazing. He's done a lot more here than Ol' Roy.

mom_of_three 6 years, 3 months ago

So i am not the only one who is still a bit... peeved... about that. I understand why, but i hated the way it happened. just still leaves a little bitter taste... and the reminder of a crying kid who was devasted.

DRsmith 6 years, 3 months ago

Reading these comments compared to the ones on yesterday's article about him leaving crack me up. How quick of a change. Does it really matter in the end? If KU is counting on Adams to get any significant minutes, it is going to be a long year.

Hawk8086 6 years, 3 months ago

DRsmith,

I'm not sure that we need him to play significant minutes in 2013-2014, but with his natural ability, he could continue to develop and contribute significant minutes down the road.

DRsmith 6 years, 3 months ago

I wouldn't call it an outcry, I saw many more negative comments than anything.

nuleafjhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Darling you got to let me know Should I stay or should I go? If you say that you are mine I’ll be here ’til the end of time So you got to let me know Should I stay or should I go?

The Clash, 1982

VaJay 6 years, 3 months ago

One day it's fine the next it's black, so if you want me off your back...

coolhand357 6 years, 3 months ago

Well, my name is Jim, but most people call me . . . Jim.

Kent Wells 6 years, 3 months ago

How did we go from music quotes, specifically the Clash to Blazing Saddles????

hotrodm 6 years, 3 months ago

If Self lets Rio stay.....Things will be tough for Rio, is Rio tough enough to handle coming back?

Kent Wells 6 years, 3 months ago

It is sort of like Tyshawn - Rio is always going to be right there making the situation more difficult for himself...

Stu Van Gorp 6 years, 3 months ago

Maybe Rio finally got a chance to see the CBS gem "The Miracles" . Watching that piece of KU history in HD with Danny's commitment to come back to win a NC could inspire even Ben to want to come back. Keep the faith kids!

Yonatan Negash 6 years, 3 months ago

Great news Rio. With the right mindset, hardwork and dedication you will excel in this system. Now, I just hope Rio and coach can work things out. If accepted back, I can assure you, Rio will be tested to the limit and be on a tighter leash. This whole experience must be a learning experience for Rio and I believe it will be. I am hopefull, things workout because Rio needs Kansas more than Kansas needs Rio. The fact of the matter is, the institution is bigger then any individual.

As for the fans, some of you continue to say horrible things about this kid. You have forgotten, this is a 19 year old kid, who is obviously stuggling to find himself. But hey, I'm sure those bashing Rio, had it all figured out at 19 years old.

To the true Jayhawk fans, I hope you continue supporting this kid as he will need you every step of the way. At the end of Rio's journey at Kansas, he will reflect back and appreciate the love you show him and the difference you will make in his life.

brooksmd 6 years, 3 months ago

Those bashing Rio are probably the same ones who bashed Withey his first 2 years. Or the Morii their freshman year when they were foul magnets. Rio has realized his mistake and humbled himself to try and get his spot back. Let's let coach and the team decide his future.

GabrielMichael 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm glad he is staying... He has lots of upside. A lot of Jayhawk greats thought of transferring after their freshman year didn't go as planned.

Rio is an emotional guy but this will help him appreciate his opportunity more...

Rock Chalk Rio!

NebraskaJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

By his comments, it sounds like maybe Releford got in his ear and made him see the light. I mean this kid has talent. All you guys wishing him to be on his way are insane. I do think there should be some stipulations should Self decide to let him stay on. One of those stipulations would be no twitter for at least all of next season. That would be a good starting point to see if he is mature enough to undergo what it takes to become a crucial and relevant player on a great team. I for one would like to see him stay.

Jonathan Allison 6 years, 3 months ago

I was thinking that it definitely sounds like someone got ahold of him in the past two days. I'm sure that he heard it from Releford and EJ, but maybe he got some advice from Mario Chalmers or Russell Robinson or Tyshawn Taylor, too.

Jesse Johnson 6 years, 3 months ago

Stipulation #2: Rio can only celebrate invisible bowl of cereal style on the sideline. All year.

Andy Tweedy 6 years, 3 months ago

If Coach says he can stay, I'm all for it! I imagine he's spent more time with Rio than anybody on this board, and knows what he's dealing with.

April13 6 years, 3 months ago

Every time Selden speaks, I like him more. Every time Wiggins speaks, I like him less.

VaJay 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm in full agreement.

"We're both great players,” Wiggins told the Chicago Sun Times. “.... Going against Jabari is just the best going against the best.”

I can't recall an ego that large ever putting on a Jayhawk uniform. This guy reminds me of the kid we recruited years ago that went with the Ducks, saying he was going to "Carmelo-ize Oregon".

These guys always go elsewhere, which is fine by me.

sarcastichawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Shame on Wiggins for having the ultimate confidence in himself

Marcia Parsons 6 years, 3 months ago

I found that "best playing the best" a little off-putting, too. A little humility goes a long ways.

Jaminrawk 6 years, 3 months ago

People need to calm down. Russell, Darnell, and Travis openly talked about nearly leaving KU. It's obvious all of the guys on the team liked Rio a lot. He has a lot of potential and this late in the recruiting process, I'm not sure they would fill his spot with any quality anyway. Give the guy another offseason and I'm sure he will contribute much like many of the other guys the rode the bench in year one.

David Black 6 years, 3 months ago

Wiggins-Parker..we are great players and best friends! He is going to NC. Not sure we need that ego at KU. Rio..good luck and stay off twitter kid. Teams win and we have a lot of good parts.

Scott Tichenor 6 years, 3 months ago

Drama queen. Attention getter, etc. KU you will be great with or without him. I'd think his teammates and coaches want someone that has their act together, which he obviously does not and is showing us so in public.

But then, yes, he is 18-19. I'd say he has some apologizing to teammates and coaches if he's going to be let back in and then he needs to buckle down and find out what makes KU basketball great.

Jim Roth 6 years, 3 months ago

I was just going to make the same comment! Drama queen is right. Not an unforgivable offense, but I sure hope he grows up soon.

Mel Clare 6 years, 3 months ago

Kids will be kids...........If he is able to stick it out and Self allows him to continue at KU, then no one on this board will be bashing him if as a senior he is averaging 13 a game with 5 assists............Tharpe is the leader along with Ellis, Rio will be a good backup next year and his JR year and when Tharpe is gone he will be the PG. Frankamp is a shooter and short, Mason is a bulldog and tough but short..........we have seen in this tourney what happens to shorter PG against length.

He is a kid.................let it play out, may be in the best interest of all parties involved.

(Unless of course HCBS has found a 6'9 230 pounder that can rebound and defend in his hip pocket waiting on a schollie..........;-) JK!

jhawkinsf 6 years, 3 months ago

Coaches have accepted some pretty high profile jobs, only to change their minds a couple a days later. Didn't Billy Donovan do it a couple of years back? If they can do it, so can Adams (as long as it's OK with Self).

DanR 6 years, 3 months ago

We took Glen Mason back after he took the Georgia football coaching job, didn't we?

VaJay 6 years, 3 months ago

Uhh, yeah, that worked out real well for us didn't it!? ;)

Andy Godwin 6 years, 3 months ago

I for one would be happy if Anrio returns. However the decision is now in Self's hands. It happens all the time when you think it will be better elsewhere and when you look carefully, you determine that you already are in the greenest pasture. I have no problem that after reflecting and looking at options that Rio wants to remain a Jayhawk. As I posted before, a Rio Adams with one year of Self style basketball under his belt is better than an unproven but talented freshman. Rio can play lockdown defense and that is a huge upside for a team losing so much. The rest of his game will come with maturity. I hope Self lets him return. Certainly, puts Self in the driver seat about following team rules to the letter.

Steve Brown 6 years, 3 months ago

Not sure it is in HCBS hands. Billy will hear him, inquire if he can step up to the standards, on court in class and on social media, then be willing to work his tail off for no promise of PT. Here are the rules, and higher for you, but you set that bar, not me, can you live with it? I get to move you off team w/out question on any day, welcome back Marine. PS other coaches have called me about your attitude and work ethic, I love your passion but not your 'control' yet, prove me wrong. here or elsewhere.

tis4tim 6 years, 3 months ago

Wow. What an interesting development regarding Rio. I'm still not sure what to make of it. Part of me says "Welcome back" and part of me says "You made your decision and now you have to live with it". However, he's young and it's not like he waited a week to change his mind. Everyone operates on a different schedule and some take longer than others to "get it". He might have figured it out in the nick of time.

The critical part for me is the quote,

“I didn’t get what I expected,” Adams told the J-W, “but there have been other players in the past who have worked hard, and eventually it pays off..."

This seems to indicate to me a kid who does now gets it and really understands what it means to be a part of KU basketball. I hope that is the case and it's not just someone who read the message boards after his initial decision and now is choosing to stay because he doesn't want to upset the fans. Frankly, he needs to be selfish here. It's his life and it would be better for him to leave if it ensures his happiness. He shouldn't concern himself about what others think.

If he goes, great. If he stays, great. I just hope if he returns he works his tail off to get better and be the player most of us think he can be.

Interesting decision for Bill. Fool me once ...

Ron Franklin 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio,

You should feel blessed if Coach Self lets you stay.

You will not find a better education.

You will not find a better coach.

You will not find more tradition.

You will not find more impassioned and caring fans.

And if you want to know how much we can love you, just ask Jayla and Thomas.

There is no greener grass.

Ron Franklin 6 years, 3 months ago

Shameless Repost:

"They'll stone you when you're trying to be so good.

They'll stone you just like they said they would.

They'll stone you when you're trying to go home.

They'll stone you when you're there all alone.

But I would not feel so all alone.

Everybody must get stoned."

--Bob Dylan

Ludwig Supraphonic 6 years, 3 months ago

College is a great place to learn delayed gratification. I hope Rio learns. Wiggins sees college as a one year "level" before the payoff. I understand that's how the system is set up for a gifted few. I don't really see a purpose in the OAD NCAA requirement. Of course, I'm a KU fan and Bill Self's teams are unlikely to benefit from players who view college as a one year audition.

Jack Wilson 6 years, 3 months ago

It's not an NCAA requirement. It's the NBA's rule. You aren't eligible for the draft.

Ludwig Supraphonic 6 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the correction. I need to tilt at the right windmill.

Kevin Huffman 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm not going to be one of those to begrudge him changing his mind & I be it will never surface as to what EXACTLY changed his mind. I'm thinking that Elijah & Naadir may have been able to talk to him AFTER he'd made that announcement and offered up WHY he might want to reconsider and that if he BOTH was patient AND put in the required work he would flourish - likely even more than them (again, guess on my part) and maybe that made him feel like Naa "had his back" or something.

Robert Brock 6 years, 3 months ago

Self likes intense basketball practices and Rio could bring some tough on-ball defense to force Selden and others to sharpen up. Meanwhile, Rio needs to learn to dribble-drive without turning it over, improve his shooting, understand the game (decision-making), etc.

AND the kid brings some amusement to the bench. NOBODY can eat soup like this kid!

nuleafjhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

You've got to get up pretty early in the morning to pull one over on me - I've got this thang figured out now !!!

Rio wants to stay and play another year with BEN !!

Steve Gantz 6 years, 3 months ago

I know he's young, but I hope Self teaches him a life lesson and doesn't let him back on the team.

Ron Franklin 6 years, 3 months ago

I shut off the Droid yesterday and went back to the flip phone. It was a birthday present to myself!

NebraskaJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

+100 I'll just use 100 because I can't put enough zeros behind the one.

nuleafjhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

drgn - I'm responding the the "electronics" part of your post. No one under 30 will understand what I'm about to say. I enjoyed and agree with your post, and I'm not trying to one-up you (this is the honest to God truth) - I don't even own a cell phone. I literally couldn't send a text if my life depended on it. It's my desire to be the last person on earth to own one (don't think I have too long to wait). I don't do Facebook, Twitter, or any of the other stuff. Kusports is the only "social media" that I participate in and it's because of my love for KU sports. My job requires that I be on a phone and a computer all day (no, I'm not a telemarketer) and when I get home, the only electronic equipment I want to mess with is a stereo or a TV. I know that I'm just being stubborn and that many of these devices are truly helpful to many people, but there are MANY instances when people just need to learn to put them down and pay attention to life.

Steve Gantz 6 years, 3 months ago

My job basically requires me to text, but it's only on a 'dumb phone'. But I hate it. Texting is evolution in reverse. We've evolved from smoke signals to pony express to morse code to telephones to cell phones and now we're going back to typing messages on phones, kind of like morse code!

John Randall 6 years, 3 months ago

It's 5x slower and 50% less accurate than Morse code – which doesn't matter much when you have nothing to say . . .

Jack Jones 6 years, 3 months ago

Couldn't agree more with your last comment ~ granted I am from the transition era of radio > television ~ it is my belief that we have lost something critically important when option 1 is to send a text (whatever that is), rather than placing a phone call ~ and having the other person actually answer the phone vs having to dictate to their voice mail. Yes, I'm aware times have changed ~ but that doesn't negate the reality of "we have lost something critically important."

edmondjayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

If he comes back great...if not, I'm fine with that too. If I'm HCBS, the first thing I would tell him is that he's on a short leash as far as complaining about playing time via twitter. That doesn't do anybody any good. Not good for team chemistry and IMO, not good publicity for KU basketball.

chalkitup1811 6 years, 3 months ago

are you still living in edmond ? i'm from edmond as well! by the way i like the fact the he is wanting to come back because the kid has some serious potential

Steve Gantz 6 years, 3 months ago

I had the fortune of enrolling at KU in 1985, not really knowing much about KU's great hoops history. Watching Danny play for the three years I was there was fabulous. Sitting behind the north goal a couple rows back gave me a seat unbelievably close to the action.

I don't remember the game or even which season, but I watched Danny grab a rebound and throw a length of the court bounce pass, threading the needle between two defenders, hitting a now nameless Jayhawk in his hands for the layup. My behind the goal seat gave me a perfect view of how good that pass was. It was a play I'll never forget.

The championship was the icing on the cake of my time at KU, I've only been back to KU once since, but I'm forever a Jayhawk! Every time the team loses in the NCAA, I still rest on the thought that during my senior year we were the champs! A great memory indeed.

Martin Rosenblum 6 years, 3 months ago

Please release me! I want to go somewhere else to get more PT! Conner is coming! Tharpe will be the next EJ, not me! My family helped me decide not to stay!

Oh, never mind....I guess I could stick around (just to see what happens).

Please! Call a Waahhh-mbulance cause this is a wreck!

REHawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Holy effing moly! Speaking of miracles, by comparison Rio has just converted the teenage Tyshawn Taylor into an earlier image of rocksolid and dependable Perry Ellis! I knew this kid was quicker than greased lightning, but didn't envision his striking so suddenly via multimedia. Hell, ESPN probably has changed Holly's travel agenda to track down Bill Self and stick to him like glue until this comedy plays itself out. Which could take all of five seconds. Whatever the outcome, it sure takes my mind off that Sweet 16 collapse. Someone posted, "Rio, we hardly knew ye." No truer words were ever uttered.

Erin England 6 years, 3 months ago

I don't have any doubts that Self will let Rio back. This isn't a CJ Giles incident. So, he changed his mind? Which I think was a good decision on his part. Self and his staff recruited Rio because they know his potential and how he can fit on this team.

Beate Williams 6 years, 3 months ago

In the article he says the scholarship is still there and that CS said we will talk on Monday. If what he says is true, it would appear CS left the door open, realizing there was a possibility of a change of heart on the part of Rio. I could be reading something that is not there, but guess we will know come Monday evening.

Kevin Huffman 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm thinking it's 50-50 that Rio's back.

I'm actually thinking that it's 100% that Self will let him back.

Problem being - I'm thinking that there'll be "a catch". Redshirt next season. Take the time to mature, get the schoolwork down, etc.

He'll still get to practice, improve / hone his skills, etc.

Look at the good it did Releford. I know it was forced but I think it did a WORLD of good for Ben & Jamari too. I think they'd've only been shells of what they were this year if they'd been enabled to play last year.

Then we get a combo. G who maturity-wise & school-wise is MUCH further along (a JR. by schooling) but only in his 2nd year of eligibility.

He'd've had to lose that year in transferring anyway. By his 3rd year of eligibility then in '15/'16 he could start and really make a name for himself.

I think another bit of why he's reconsidered is that I think that he sees that he could play the "2" and that Selden may very well be another OAD.

Jack Wilson 6 years, 3 months ago

Mentioned this last night on another thread -- a name to add as a possible KU target: Josh Davis from Tulane. 6'8" power forward. Led Tulane in scoring at 17+ ppg. Is immediately eligible.

http://recruiting.scout.com/2/1280165.html

On Adams, it's just very odd how the clear frustration that has built up with the kid this season can somehow be changed by a one day reconsideration. But when the light bulb goes on, maybe it is goes on. We'll see how this plays with coach Self.

I see tons of potential in Adams. But remember, a roster at Kansas is a battle for scholarships. There are 13, but there are battles inside that 13. Winners and losers of the battles determine transfers. Adams staying may impact Mason, Frankamp, Greene, and White for three years, Tharpe for 2. Selden likely for at least 2. Think about that. Let's say we have a 5 man perimeter rotation (and Self was content with a 4 man rotation this season). You can't get around the numbers. That's 7 bodies with no other adds.

Again, we'll see how Adams' supposed reconsideration here plays with coach Self.

NebraskaJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Very good point. I would say Mason is for sure a redshirt if Adams returns.

Ron Prichard 6 years, 3 months ago

HEM, I always enjoy your posts. Well thought out and almost always right to the point.

You can put me in the camp of those glad Rio may stay. He is freakishly athletic and quick, and if he can get his head on straight I think he can make an impact even next year. Even if it was in garbage time, he scored 11 points in about 2 minutes in the Big XII tourney. You don't do that unless you have skills. He may honestly be one of the quickest players I have seen at KU in a long time.

It does pose interesting questions about the future and how it will impact the other players. However, it is no different an impact than what we were looking at at any time this season until Rio announced he was leaving. It's not really a changing landscape so much as a return to the expected.

milehighhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

If Rio already received word from Self they will talk Monday--assuming Rio doesn't change his mind prior to that meeting--I think it's safe to assume he's back.

I think it's also safe to assume we will be hearing far less from Mr. Adams through social media after Monday.

I'm pumped about both scenarios.

Tony Bandle 6 years, 3 months ago

Blame it on Rio....or not.

1] EVERYBODY deserves a second chance. Including myself and every one of the posters on this site, because I am betting that at one point in all our lives we would have been screwed if we weren't given that mulligan.

2] To all of you who have shown a positive reaction to Anrio's postiton, even if somewhat guarded, well done. Maybe he has read the positive comments on this site . 3] To all of you who expressed a negative, please look in the mirror. Isn't Kansas Nation about family and when talking about true family, isn't forgiveness and patience required?

4] I understand your frustration [I'm sure not playing tomorrow contributes to it]. Anrio is almost undergrad Tyshawn-Lite. Take the high road and see what happens..as one poster noted, this may be a moot point if Bill says see ya......I hope he doesn't.

5] And finally, I've gotten quite fond of invisible corn flakes!!

Mark Lindrud 6 years, 3 months ago

If he comes back then his twitter account better be shut down for the whole year, and Facebook just in case. If he's got issues going public about it needs to stop. Be a man and face up to what's going on. His coming back doesn't mean he grew up. His actions from here on out will show his true character.

brooksmd 6 years, 3 months ago

Isn't it a good thing Withey didn't let all the negative comments on here his first 2 years bother him?

PVJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio may deserve a second chance, but I'm not sure about you, Oaky! :-)

Joe Baker 6 years, 3 months ago

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

Seriously, it's his decision and it's between HCBS and Anrio Adams. He stays and has a great season in a year or two, this board will sing his praises. He stays and has a down career, this board crucifies him. I'd rather error on the side of caution and stay. I'd take my chances on a decent opportunity than jump ship into a worse situation.

Work it out Rio. Half the board supports you either way. No pleasing the masses whatever you decide. Whatever you decide, get focused and get your game face on for the next three years. Listen to HCBS and you will be successful.

Steve Yeakel 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio and Bill will make the right decision next week. It is hard to be a star in high school that has to pay your dues and wait your turn to be successful at the next level. But Travis and Jeff and many others have shown that KU is the place to do that. Bill can help you if you are truly a one and done guy, and can also give you the help you need to succeed at the next level if it takes you more time to develop and grow to get there.

5to6 6 years, 3 months ago

I trust Bill on this one. I hope that it works out well for both KU and Rio. I'd love to see it turn out to be a redemption story with a positive ending.

Michael Maris 6 years, 3 months ago

In the end, it is now up to Bill Self as to what Anrio future will be at Kansas. I'm sure if the decision is to allow Anrio to stay at Kansas. The Twitter issue will be fully addressed both past and future.

In reading yesterdays article about it being a Family decision, the message was conveyed as if Anrio had spoke to his family and they all came to a mutual decision that it would be best for Anrio to transfer back closer to home. But, in the midst of that article, it was clear that Anrio had not yet spoken to his family at length about the decision to transfer.

If Anrio truly wants a good opinion on the situation, he should speak to Rodrick Stewart about transferring away from Kansas. After all, the Stewart family has a role in Anrio life. Is Rodrick unhappy or ecstatic about his decision to leave USC and transfer to Kansas. I'm sure that Rodrick will inform him that life at an Elite Program and having the ability to be a member of a special team is a lot more enjoyable than the experience that Rodrick had at USC. I commend Lodrick for sticking it out at USC. But, Rodrick can always look at Lodrick and smile while he holds up the Championship Ring into the glowing sunlight.

But as I stated earlier, it is now in the hands of Coach Self to make the final decision. I entrust that Coach Self will make the right decision in regards to the Anrio ''Rio'' Adams situation.

pepper_bar 6 years, 3 months ago

Self rarely seems to hold players accountable for their poor choices. I consider it very likely that Self will allow Adams back on the team.

John Randall 6 years, 3 months ago

I sometimes wonder how I'd have turned out (better or worse) if I only had one chance at each choice I made as a teenager.

Tony Bandle 6 years, 3 months ago

Possible conditions for reinstatement:

Greatly reduce the social media, red shirt 2013-14 [Wayne may be a yet undiscovered OAD and with Wayne, AWIII, Naadir, Frank, Conner and even Evan, why waste a year when you can grow physically, emotionally and BBall IQ wise and have three more years] and, finally, work your a$$ off.

PS Take over as the locker room "Dance Master" with BenMac's departure.

Dale Kroening 6 years, 3 months ago

Why would he decide to stay, and is waiting to talk to Self if he was told he wouldnt play or was being "shuttled" off ? You have no idea what your talking about.

Ethan Berger 6 years, 3 months ago

Sounds like one of the seniors went and paid him a visit. And my money is on EJ. Regardless, if he stays good, if not well best of luck to him.

woodscolt 6 years, 3 months ago

These guys are young kids when they are brought in here and people need to quit judging them like they don't or can't grow through some indecision. I know Self isn't tolerant of any or everything they do but being a kid, he should be. I think that he realized that the grass might not be greener and this might be his best shot even if he has to earn it. However, he will have to prove that he is capable of being a team player and that means not attracting so much attention to himself. He needs to disappear from the media and do his talking in the classroom and on the court. Elijah (T-rob,Releford,twins,Withey) didn't see much playing time his freshman year and this years team was his. (He was asked to play out of position and that wasn't his fault and he would have been great as a two guard) Come on back and go to work Rio. We need guards and it is wide open for you.

Max Ledom 6 years, 3 months ago

I've said this for a while now. Rio is the next great one. This is destiny. What a Jayhawk.

woodscolt 6 years, 3 months ago

Got that feeling too hawks boy. This may be a bigger story when it is told in a year or two!

Josh Becker 6 years, 3 months ago

Never really saw anything special in Rio besides that he has a 6'9'' wing span and came in for 2 minutes to pick up 2 fouls. It would be better for him to transfer, every single guard coming in will be better than he is and will learn the system quicker than he has. The class coming in has guys with good heads on their shoulders and are much better than Rio will be

Kevin Huffman 6 years, 3 months ago

Honestly, I'd be suprised if Rio were to stay if he didn't end up >>>>>>>>>>> Conner!!!

Really, Frankamp & Mason are better than Rio?

REALLY?!?!?!

Ludwig Supraphonic 6 years, 3 months ago

Just can't let Morningstar go can you JayhawkinNebr.

FL_Jhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio saying he was a Jayhawk for life was all I needed to hear for me to welcome him back.

I think Rio just grew up a bit. Sometimes we don't now how much we miss something until we see it walking away from us. It may be that Self won't let him back, but if Self sees that Rio has really made that step and really wants to work hard for KU, then I hope he does. Maybe Rio will have to redshirt a year as penance, which actually might be good for all, I don't know. If there are academic problems, it will give Rio a chance to catch up while still contributing to the team.

Bottom line, if Self lets him back, I think we should welcome back this "Jayhawk for life", a young man who will undoubtedly bring fun and excitement to KU BB.

Hoosierhawkfan 6 years, 3 months ago

"Rio and Coach Self will make a decision next week"? Rio made his decision and CS made his. I don't think Coach wants to sign back on for more drama. If Self tries to restrict Rio's use of social media, and thereby Rio's First Amendment Right as a condition of staying, I will be very disappointed in the coach. I think the team has had enough of all this distraction. Let's move ahead!!

741hawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Kinda like the Superintendent of a Military School meeting with a new student for the first time. "Do you want to take that earring out, son; or do you want me to do it for you?"

Michael Bratisax 6 years, 3 months ago

Or bootcamp, although the military certainly has the right to restrict speech.

Ron Franklin 6 years, 3 months ago

"and also you took someone else's avatar,btw." THAT has me ROLLING!

brooksmd 6 years, 3 months ago

Doesn't really matter. Rio would have 2 options. Keep his twitter account and leave or shutdown his twitter account and stay if that would be HCBS's stipulations.

KUsmoothies 6 years, 3 months ago

Hope Rio stays. I think he'll be a great player someday if he works hard. Someone has probably already mentioned this but is there any chance that he changed his mind once he figured out UCLA, Arizona, Oregon and whoever else wasn't interested in him?

pepper_bar 6 years, 3 months ago

There's no other logical explanation for this nonsense.

John Randall 6 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, there is another explanation, but we'd have to take Rio's word for that, wouldn't we? It gives me no pleasure to speculate on interest from other schools – but you may be wired differently.

Brian Skelly 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio's situation -- even here at KU -- isnt all that unique except for the fact that now we live in 24/7 information world. Twitter, Facebook, Blog posts, you name it. Society is 'on' (for better or worse) all the time now.

Even 5 years ago this isnt the viral discussion it is now. Tempest in a teapot. My guess is at this point he's just not cut out mentally for the grind -- yet. We'll see what happens. My guess is that his parents probably told him to suck it up and stay. Just a hunch, no verification of that obviously.

If he's ineligible because of grades he can be run off. Considering how much academic help these guys get it would be shocking to me if thats the case. But if not, he's likely looking at JUCO ball and ending up somewhere else.

If he's actually been released how does the 'coming back' part work? And at this point does Self even really want him back (my guess is that's debatable)?

kckuguy 6 years, 3 months ago

A few days ago Rio said he wasn't going to name the school he was transferring to and now he has had a change of heart. Could it be he is not welcome where he thought he was ? I don't see any new maturity in the kid or he wouldn't be announcing on twitter at midnight he was staying at KU. That sounds like the same Rio that has been at KU all season. I would bet that is the way he was brought up. He sounds to me like he thinks he is entitled to the scholarship. Does anyone not think if there was another school wanting Rio and offering him more playing time that he wouldn't go today or next week ? The world must have revolved around him before he came to Kansas and now all of a sudden he isn't the focus of everyone. He went so far as to get his release after KU waited all last summer for him to even become eligible. I would do just like Self did and wish the kid good luck. Self I am sure doesn't want to hold the kid back, that is exactly what I tell kids that work for me that know more than I do about my business and threaten to quit.

741hawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Fascinating. Now, 14 hours later, there are more posts re: Rio's possible return than were posted in the entirety after he announced he was leaving!

DanR 6 years, 3 months ago

Not really fascinating or accurate. There were over 500 comments on the previous two stories.

cobweb 6 years, 3 months ago

Good grief! He's an immature kid. Has it been that long since all of you were 19? I couldn't find my a** with both hands. Cut him some slack.

Josh Becker 6 years, 3 months ago

The best part about Rio staying, presumably, is that he will provide more entertainment on the bench next year when Selden, Greene, and Frankaamp are in the game draining 3's and Selden throwing down monster jams. His hungry face is probably the best bench entertainment in a while. Good for practice, nothing in the 40 minutes he played all season was enough to show his potential or really any necessity for him staying. It would actually be better for the program to show some freshman coming in playing well, and a lot, with a successful season. Good he is staying for making our guys compete against a decent player when we will have extra scholarships left. But temper your expectations people

Kyle Neuer 6 years, 3 months ago

I would like to remind all the haters that Naadir Tharpe had an absolutely wretched freshman year. Tyshaun Taylor had a few lousy seasons. Coach Self's system is tough for guards and it takes awhile for them to "get it". Patience, grasshoppers.

Sam Constance 6 years, 3 months ago

His name is Rio and he dribbles down the floor .

Sometimes he's frustrating, but leaves you wanting more .

And when he cheers the team, his style is hard to beat .

Eating from an invisible bowl of cereal made of wheat. . .

Oh Rio, Rio don't do anything too rash .

Bill Self's a tough coach and you should expect to clash. .

Don't let frustration tell you that it's time to walk .

Come back to Lawrence and put on that proud Jayhawk.

Personally, I have a few thoughts on Rio:

I'm disappointed, but not at all surprised by the venom and unforgiving attitudes that several on this message board have shared in regards to Adams. I mean, we had a pretty sizeable chunk of fans turn on a guy who just finished a 4 year career of bleeding crimson and blue, and who is largely responsible for our appearance in the 2012 NCAA title game AND our 2013 Big 12 Championship. Of course fans are going to turn on a kid who has only been around for a year and played sparingly while airing his frustration on Twitter. A far-too-large contingent of the KU basketball fanbase has looked pretty freaking ugly over the last week or so.

Personally, I can see advantages/disadvantages to him staying or going. If he goes, it's really just the same thing that we were all expecting 24 hours ago. It will be too bad that we don't get to seem him grow as a Jayhawk and see what kind of things he would be capable of with some discipline and instruction, but ultimately, I want Rio to do what he feels is best for him. I might think that playing at KU is best for him, but I'm admittedly biased. On the other hand, if he comes back, this latest bit of drama may give Coach Self some useful leverage to get through to Rio when it comes to being a team player and fully buying in. "Yeah son, you can come back, but we need to talk--no more Twitter or public airing of grievances, and you're on a short leash as it relates to disciplinary issues. If you do what you're supposed to, you could have a long and prosperous career at Kansas, but if not, it will be a quick hook to the bench, then to the end of the bench with your warmups on, then off the roster completely.

Whatever Coach Self and Rio decide on Monday, I will be fine with it. The kid seems to have basketball talent that needs to be harnessed, and when he's not tweeting frustration about playing time, I really enjoy his infectious and entertaining antics on the sideline. Speaking of which, I posted this in response to someone's comment on the "Rio is leaving" thread, but I spent a good 20-30 minutes laughing at the photoshop glory, and hoped that anyone who is put out about Rio could read this thread and perhaps have a change of heart:

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172&f=3725&t=11377153&p=1

jay381 6 years, 3 months ago

It has been my experience in business if a manager gives notice and then tries to withdraw it a day or so later his mind and dedication have already left the company. I think the same would apply to Rio. I certainly wish him no ill will and nothing but the best. However, given his prior antics plus the family decision to seek alternatives I think his mind and dedication have already left KU. I have never seen a change of mind work out over time. It might for a short time but over all I would be extremely apprehensive of the end result even if he stays. However, if that is what he and Self work out I wish him absolutely nothing but success in this great basketball program.

GortHawker 6 years, 3 months ago

One thing I've learned in life is , once a quiter always a quiter, I don't care what Rio says , let him go !

BainDread 6 years, 3 months ago

I think it's someone who is not quite a quitter.

Tony Bandle 6 years, 3 months ago

Oh Come on..everybody knows that. You have to take same size patches of materials and sew them together to form a pattern and...what?...quitter, not quilter??....OH....NEVER MIND!!

Sam Constance 6 years, 3 months ago

Anyone who thinks Self is giving this kid his walking papers and trying to make it look like Rio wants out, I think you're forgetting that our backcourt (at least at the PG position) is going to be pretty small next year:

5-11 Naadir Tharpe 5-11 Frank Mason 6-0 Conner Frankamp

Not only does Rio have a year "in the system" over Mason and Frankamp, but he gives us some much needed size at the pg position. Self usually likes to have the option of a big, physical guard in addition to the more waterbug type guards like Tharpe.

If Rio can convince Self that he's matured a little bit and will buy in (and will stop his tweeting), I think he'll be welcomed back. As I noted in my last post--Self may see the change of heart as an opportunity to really instill some discipline, now that he has a bit more leverage over the kid.

Jerry Long 6 years, 3 months ago

I trust that Coach Self will make the right decision, but personally, I hope he gets the chance to stay. I made a really dumb decision when I was 19 years old that I would give just about anything to have back. That was 40 years ago. Making stupid decisions when you are young is not uncommon, but it can haunt one for a long time afterwards. I hope this young man doesn't have to look back in 40 years and say, "Why did I do that?" I hope that 40 years from now he can say, "Thanks to a great coach, I got a second chance."

April13 6 years, 3 months ago

You should add "Wise" to your username. If Self sees fit in keeping him, this could be a major turning point in young Rio's life. I'm with you, I hope that Self can find a way to bring him back.

jaybate 6 years, 3 months ago

The decision is always the same.

There is a role this guy could play.

Is he likely the best you can get to play the role?

If yes, then keep.

If no, then get better player.

No emotion.

Just a choice.

Let Self make it.

Next.

BCRavenJHawkfan 6 years, 3 months ago

Or as they say in Vegas Elvis has left the building.

Jerry Long 6 years, 3 months ago

Mr J, I rarely disagree with you, but I have to this time. If I wanted no emotion, I would watch the NBA. I would not walk across the street to see their game if I were given free tickets. The emotion of AFH, the Rock Chalk, the Alma Mater, those are the things that have always made me a Jayhawk. I hope I never lose that emotion.

jaybate 6 years, 3 months ago

OG,

Thanks for weighing in and I respect your take.

Emotion for the Jayhawks is at the heart of The Living Myth.

My point is that people are not getting emotional about the Jayhawks. They are getting emotional about a guy who quit the Jayhawks. I have a hard time emoting about guys that quit the team. If Rio is let back on the team, I can get emotional about him again.

About the decision as to whether Self should take him back, or not, I stick by my take. I'm on the players sides when they want to be Jayhawks. I don't like running players we take aboard, if they are good citizens and bust their butts.

But once they quit, bets are off for me.

Things then default to the same drivers as when they were being recruited. Are they the best player for the role the upcoming team needs.

If yes, keep.

If no, select the better player.

jaybate 6 years, 3 months ago

Selden is focusing on defense, so he can guard 1-3. He is a god send.

Brad Farha 6 years, 3 months ago

I know! I loved that comment by Selden.

Suzi Marshall 6 years, 3 months ago

I bet ALL Jayhawkers were having those exact thoughts!!! Self has an incredible eye for tallent and ability to coach them up.

Greg Lux 6 years, 3 months ago

Great decision Rio .. You will make a great addition to the team. I love you speed and talent your upside is awesome and your decision to is the same.

Rock Chalk

TysonHawk37 6 years, 3 months ago

This past summer, I had the opportunity to meet Anrio, Ben, Nikko and Andrew WIII at a camp for kids. I am glad that Rio may possibly be staying. I was genuinely impressed with Rio's interaction with the kids. He came across very comfortable with them and seemed to genuinely enjoy interacting with them. That impressed me. I'll also say, the kids (mine included) seemed to have had a great time with him and his playful demeanor. While he may have shown some immature actions this year at times, I believe he's a good kid and will mature. I hope he stays.

Neom 6 years, 3 months ago

This dude is surely a charactor, both at the sideline with his hilarious moves and at the media creating dramas. KU should keep such a charactor to add some flavor to the otherwise boring offseason with the earlier tournament exit!

I have been watching basketball games for many years, never recall anything like this happened before in here or elsewhere.

jayhawkinATL 6 years, 3 months ago

Somebody told him that he likely would have to sit out a year, right??? Comical.

jayhawkinATL 6 years, 3 months ago

$20 says Rio is not back after Monday. Self will hear him out and his plea, but will ultimately opt for no more Rio-esque distractions.

Tony Bandle 6 years, 3 months ago

You're on..I say he stays. We'll let Jaybate hold the virtual twenties and figure out payment later!!

I see this as an opportunity for HCBS to remind a very young team that he is the boss and his word goes!!

jaybate 6 years, 3 months ago

Part 1

vTwenties in Helicopter jaybate's iFederal Reserve awaiting Big Bill's decision. :-)

First, I don't have a sense for how this will actually play out, except that I noticed that Self left the door open for a change of heart, when Self said he and Rio had "agreed" in principle, but that the paper work was pending, while Rio returned to Seattle to talk it over with his folks.

Therefore, it seems likely that Self would take Rio back, since Rio wants to come back, since things were kept pending until Rio talked to his family...other things staying equal in the interim.

The question is: have things stayed equal in the interim. And I have no way of knowing that, so I can't say what moves Self might have made in the interim.

I suspect what happened was that Rio panicked sometime ago about Self's pursuit of Wiggins and Wiggins apparent continuing interest in KU!! The optimism about Wiggins seemed to crest around the time UK got bounced out of the NIT.

Rio probably doubted he had a shot at daylight with Wiggins and Selden showing, and he was probably unnerved also by Self continuing to pursue still more players.

But I suspect that the Wiggins-to-KU thing more or less ended, when Wiggins talked about winning it all with what UK had plus himself.

Next, Wiggins brother at WSU reputedly said Wiggins was preparing a bombshell announcement and, while I have speculated that that did not necessarily mean UK, it also seemed not imply KU either. A bombshell announcement would seem to involve Wiggins doing something unforeseen, like signing with Enfield at UCLA, or something.

Next, it probably clarified beyond a doubt that Ben was going to the L.

So: then Rio saw some oxygen at KU--some PT for himself next year and a likely starting spot the season after.

Also, he probably talked with Lorenzo Romar and his old high school coach.

Romar probably told him something like, "I want you, but you have to understand you aren't a shoe-in here either."

His high school coach probably gave him the "Look, here, Anrio, if Ben Mac could sit a year at KU and make the best of it, and he's a lottery guy, who the dick do you think you are not being able to do it, too?"

I suspect these things converged to cause him to say, "Well, I'd rather play some at KU, rather than not at all somewhere else."

But this only hypothetically explains Rio's change of mind.

It says nothing about what Self has been doing since Rio headed home for his family chat.

Self seems a pretty proactive type--not the type to sit and wait twittling his thumbs for Rio to decide. And here is where it gets sticky to predict.

jaybate 6 years, 3 months ago

Part 2

Self has said he wants to sign not just one guy, but several more.

If Wiggins cooled his jets on KU, Self might have been doubly motivated to move on a player or two that he has been telling to wait until Wiggins decides.

This is why I have said above that it really comes down to whether any players in the woodwork, and Self is famous for finding these sorts late, gives the team more of what it needs than Rio would.

It seems unlikely that Self could find such a player right now, but, dang, Rio was so wild this season, Self could easily be thinking, well, Rio is going to bloom late like EJ did, and Self needs some one in the rotation that is not going to be a March Hare for another season.

The odds are Self will not have such a player in the wings he could reel in.

But if Self were to have such a player, and Wiggins told Self Wiggins were not coming to KU, then Rio may have just Hamlet-ed himself out of crimson and blue for good.

So: this is the long form of why I gave the short form up above.

If Rio is the best available player for the role, then Self will go with him.

But if Play B is more experienced and ready to play next season than Rio is likely to be, Self will likely select Player B.

All of this is just hypothetical and speculative of course.

Bill's the only one that knows that knows what cards he has in the hole.

And its the hole cards that will drive his choice on Adams.

JayHok 6 years, 3 months ago

Thank gooodness for Rio Adams! Seriously helping me take my mind off of the fact that we should be winning a national championship in three nights. All by himself he has me fired up for next year whether Self lets him back on the team or not! His defense will forever be known as the "Soup Nazi". Tthat gif is about the funniest thing I've ever seen. No soup for you when he's playing defense!

Tony Bandle 6 years, 3 months ago

Nice thought but no one's beating Louisville this year...they're on a Mission From God!!

JayHok 6 years, 3 months ago

If that's an absolute true statement from god then I'm fine with losing to Michigan. Otherwise if it's a hunch, I have a hunch Withey and the Wonders wasn't going to let anybody else win it.

Ron Franklin 6 years, 3 months ago

Had a dream last night that UL beat Michigan for the title. We'll see :)

Kevin Huffman 6 years, 3 months ago

Wow! How polarizing is Anrio.

Some of you are like, "Great! Great to have you back."

And others of you are like, "Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out!"

I would contend that the right approach if your self is somewhere in between.

You're welcome back, but we have to have some conditions......whatever those might be.....i.e., no Twitter, a redshirt year, both? academics in order, etc.

JayHok 6 years, 3 months ago

He's eighteen or so. Pretty big maturation step he just took to own up. I can't see Self letting him back on the team without social media rules. Anyone who really isn't excited about him possibly coming back wasn't watching his defense. The players love him too. Just needs to mature that's all. You'll notice the accounts who are acting like the world is crumbling are brand new. I personally witnessed first hand during our loss three Mizzou fans at a Columbia bar all over kusports posting having a ball. They may have moved to the SEC but they'll never stop getting in our business. It's funny, they should be starting a new rivalry in the SEC but they can't stay away.

Brett Forreal 6 years, 3 months ago

Probably wants to stick around for the Wayne Selden show.

jayhawklawrence 6 years, 3 months ago

Success in life is almost always based on making good decisions.

I cannot think of a guard under Self with the kind of talent that Rio has not becoming a professional basketball player.

If you get a degree in basketball under Bill Self, it makes a lot of money. That is a guarantee. Few things in life are as guaranteed as this.

FearlessJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio probably realized staying at KU is his best chance of wearing a ring and getting the kind of exposure the Jayhawks provide.

amyirenie 6 years, 3 months ago

I like the kid, but can we get him on a mood stabilizer? Some zoloft maybe? When he's up, he's up, but when he's feeling down, he is not a happy lil jayhawk. I think if he would think before he tweets that would be good for him. It's tough being a freshman with big dreams and sharing the stage. If he would be patient and put his thoughts in to action in practice, then maybe he wouldn't be in this position.

4jhawks4ku 6 years, 3 months ago

I bet Anrio wouldnt have turned down the wide open layup.. He plays harassing defense also but needs more playing time to control his fouling.

Jack Wilson 6 years, 3 months ago

Ok, what hasn't already been said?

I will say that I love Adams' game. Meaning his style of play. The dreaded eye test tells me he could be a top tier KU player when all is said and done. He seems to have everything. He's quick, tall, long, explosive .. an "above the rim athlete" as Ralster said above. If I had to gamble, I'd say after four years we'd think of him much better than we do Taylor, Reed, Morningstar, or EJ (if you take the final four run out of the reminiscing with TT and EJ). Just a hunch there. I just see a lot to like from his game and very little not to like.

The biggest thing for Rio is being humbled. He's not humble. He needs to play the game the way coach Self wants it played. Like Chalmers did, like Collins did, like RRobinson did. And kind of like Taylor did. Kind of.

Playing a game that focuses on the team, not on Rio Adams, is the key for the young man, in my opinion. That transformation in perspective may be all that is needed. And this experience, or epiphany, may be exactly the right medicine.

When he sees "team" first, watch out.

notjustbread 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio is like a yo-yo. Someone make a rap.

Jack Jones 6 years, 3 months ago

Classic rap ~ to my 76 yr. old ears ~ well done.

Kevin Jenkins 6 years, 3 months ago

At first I hated this kids attitude and comments on twitter. And watched a few games that he played and decided he wasn't that good. But his playing time was limited. But then I remember my 18th birthday and thought about what I was doing when I was that age. Let him come back if the grades are good and he is motivated. If he shows he can, why not? What were you doing at that age? It is hard to being a great highschool baller and then just sitting-thinking you can help win, but just have to sit and watch. Let us see if he really wants to stay or not. Sometimes when you make a decission and then change it, you second guess that decission. After a week or two we will know if it is what he really wants. I am sure Self has heard all the rumours already.and will need to have a sitdown with Rio on this. But then again if he decides to leave that is okay. We do have the talent and talent coming to replace him... Good luck anyway. Again he is just a young kid and needs to help his future. KU is a great place to start....

JayHok 6 years, 3 months ago

Heck if EJ faked an injury before his free throw we'd still be playing.

Tony Bandle 6 years, 3 months ago

You all think this is an explosion of posts??

What if the name in the headline was changed from Rio Adams to Ben McLemore!!

I think the LJW server would BURN OUT in a matter of minutes!!!

Ron Franklin 6 years, 3 months ago

Has there been a study done yet to show which Rivals High Ranking Athletes actually pan out at the next level? Who is projected a number one prior to college, and holds that same designation after school?

4thGenJHawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Is anyone else nervous about Wiggin's comments?? This isn't the first time I've thought his comments were arrogant to say the least. Do we want "this" on our team??

702Hawk 6 years, 3 months ago

I don't think he is as bad as you think. I think he has been a little bored now that the high school season has ended. So to entertain himself he is saying these comments which make him seem like he is leaning one way or another to cause the four school fan bases to panic. There is no reason to worry about what he is saying until the hats are in front of him. But I really hope he doesn't actually have hats. Why not do something new like shoes?

702Hawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Spoiler Alert:

From the pictures on the American Family 3 point contest it sure looks like Fankamp won the competition. Way to go Conner.

JayHok 6 years, 3 months ago

22/25 for 88%. From what I've heard about him he'll put on a happy public face and go back to the gym later until he hits 25/25 perfect swishes.

seattlejayhawk68 6 years, 3 months ago

I think I'll wait until Tuesday to weigh in on this...

GreatJake 6 years, 3 months ago

Monday is a long way off. Rio could leave stay multiple times before Monday . Beware of breaking tweets over the weekend. Seriously I wish you the best where ever you end up Rio!

hawkmoon2020 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio - glad to hear you want to stay, and excel as a Jayhawk. I hope you do, because you've got game! However, I trust CS to make the best decision for the team and for you.

Selden - Loved your MDA game, and can't wait to see you perform in crimson and blue! You have elite talent, and will definitely prosper under CS.

Wiggens - Love your "low key" personality and incredible talents. Appears KU isn't in the lead for your services, but I wish you the best regardless. I do think you could tone down your verbal arrogance a bit, and let your skills and results do the talking while playing college ball.

Jayhawk fans - please lighten up on Rio, EJ, etc. Whether young or mature, no one is perfect, and our players go through a hell of a lot to earn their scollie and PT. Gotta love us "arm chair" coaches. LOL

4jhawks4ku 6 years, 3 months ago

Selden looks better than Wiggins to me. A little shorter but longer on toughness and speed. Give me a tough competitor and team player every time over a me player. But I would allow Wiggins one year as a Jayhawk to change my mind.

Ben Simonett 6 years, 3 months ago

Seriously? Am i dreaming?

did i just read a top 15, Mcdonalds all-american say he is focusing on GUARDING all 3 back court positions?

Holy S*it!

Self is going to do amazing things with Selden!

ahpersecoachingexperience 6 years, 3 months ago

Great!!! He's going to talk to HCBS on Monday. Meaning we'll have three more days of Rio Berglund articles discussing if he'll stay or go.

mikehawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio at the Tipping Point...dig in, work hard, grow up, learn to understand what Coach is trying to do, and become a man. If the previously mentioned occurs, you can only imagine Senior Night for this young man. We will look back and remember this moment in a player's career, and we will all be in love with him. This kid has great potential. Long and strong, but soft between the ears. So were all of us at his age. In those days we were just young and so stupid we actually thought we were smart. Now, it is all of that with a Twitter account. I've had mixed feelings about Rio all year, but there is something compelling about this young fella. I think he has a chance to be a very good player if he stays and gives his cerebral cortex a bit more time for development. You want to be a Jayhawk for life, then I hope it works out for you when you meet with Coach. He has you where he wants you now. And that is exactly where you need Coach to be...with his right hand firmly gripped between your legs.

Kye Clark 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm a huge Adams fan. For all the reasons ralster (and others) mention. Length, speed, athleticism. Why toss all that away (if you're Self)? Absolute worst case...he still doesn't get PT next year, becomes a cancer on the team and Self has to kick him off. That's it. It's not as if we're in a position scholarship-wise where keeping him would mean that we've closed off avenues to bring in anyone else equally as good or better. Aside from Wiggins (who is a long shot IMO), there is nobody else "better" to be had at this point. And Self has the schollie to burn. So again, worst case isn't really any different than we were a day ago.

On the flip side, the best case is he shows the best qualities of some of the elite guards from KU teams' past.

It's low-risk, high-reward. Hope Self sees that.

Steve Gantz 6 years, 3 months ago

This I know, 300 posts on the first article about him leaving, almost 200 on the next and now over 300 posts on him maybe returning. Never has so much been posted on for a KU player who has actually played so little!

Jack Wilson 6 years, 3 months ago

Well, except for Milton Doyle .... or maybe it just felt that way.

dylans 6 years, 3 months ago

Wait until a significant contributor leaves.

Micky Baker 6 years, 3 months ago

Rio will probably see significant playing time next year, even if it's off the bench. Rio will come in when KU plays small, but he probably won't be at the point much unless Tharpe gets injured. That is, if Self agrees to let him stay which I believe he will.

Dale Kroening 6 years, 3 months ago

I know this story is about Rio, glad to see he had a change of heart and would like to see him stay if he's willing to work, and earn his playing time, but Frankamp was impressive in the 3-point contest hitting 22-25 shots. Food for thought, Ive seen many posts about Frankamp and Masons size for a pg being small at 6'0", that may be true, BUT, do you realize the guy who knocked us out of the tourney and won Big1G and National POY is ONLY a 6'0" former 3 star HS recruit named Trey Burke ??? Not saying either of these guys are Burke, just saying lets wait and see them play before saying they will be a liability because of their size.

eric poncharello 6 years, 3 months ago

Self already talked with Rio and signed his paperwork releasing him from the team. All the drama and paperwork is in, no more drama so, no more Rio, he should of kept his twitter mouth shut until he talked to Self when he got back from the final four.

Hoosierhawkfan 6 years, 3 months ago

This morning Rio Adams tweets "transferring". WTF???????

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