Monday, November 15, 2010

Turner Gill: Nebraska simply ‘won battle’ against Kansas

Huskers controlled line of scrimmage in win

Kansas head coach Turner Gill leaves the field following the Jayhawks' 20-3 loss to Nebraska, Saturday, Nov. 13, 2010 at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.

Kansas head coach Turner Gill leaves the field following the Jayhawks' 20-3 loss to Nebraska, Saturday, Nov. 13, 2010 at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.


Trying to explain why his offense gained just 87 yards and five first downs during Kansas University’s 20-3 loss to Nebraska on Saturday night, KU coach Turner Gill simply said his team could not get anything going.

Sunday night, a few hours after reviewing the game film for the first time, Gill had a more specific answer.

“(Nebraska) executed at the line of scrimmage,” he said. “That was really the bottom line. Their front four or seven beat our front six or seven guys. When (that happens), you cannot run the football, and their pass defense was very, very good. They won the battle.”

After picking up 20 yards and a first down on the first possession of the game, the Jayhawks had four straight offensive possessions end with Nebraska sacks.

Sunday, Gill continued to give credit to the Nebraska defense for his team’s sluggish offensive night. Several Jayhawks who faced NU’s vaunted “Blackshirts” defense were right there with him.

“We were all frustrated as an offense collectively,” wide receiver Bradley McDougald said. “When you got that much pressure in your face, there’s only so many plays that you can make.”

After the game, NU defensive coordinator Carl Pelini told reporters that what he saw from the KU offense was drastically different than most of what he scouted on the six weeks of game film he watched leading up to the game. Gill didn’t divulge how much his offense changed but did say that the Jayhawks gave a few new looks.

“There’s always little adjustments here and there,” he said. “Every week we try to do something a little bit different, but you still do some base things always. We gotta find a way to make some plays. They executed better than we did.”

Gill not bothered

Gill didn’t have much to say Sunday night about the fact the Nebraska offense continued to pass late in the game despite owning a 17-point lead.

Nebraska threw two passes — one from the shotgun — in the final minute and also called timeout with 10 seconds to play.

Asked for his reaction, Gill said: “I don’t have any thoughts.”

The late aerial attack angered fans from both sides, and several made their displeasure known on KU and NU Internet message boards.

Asked after the game what his intention was, head coach Bo Pelini said he was trying to get his offense more work.

Mecham still the man?

Though junior quarterback Quinn Mecham endured the worst game of his three starts (3-of-13 for 15 yards and one interception) this season, Gill said he never considered benching him in favor of backups Kale Pick or Jordan Webb.

Asked Sunday if Mecham would remain the starter for this week’s game against Oklahoma State — 11 a.m. Saturday in Lawrence — Gill was noncommittal.

“We’re gonna discuss it a little more (today) and may come to a decision Tuesday,” he said.


NebraskaJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Great game defensively for Kansas really. Not bad. Bring that intensity to every game.

Offensively, I knew we would struggle. Not sure why we didn't keep McDougal in the "Wildcat". That was actually pretty successful.

tc15 9 years, 3 months ago

NOT BAD!! Turner Gill and these bunch of wannabe's are nothing but a group of losers... fire him asap!

jhox 9 years, 3 months ago

I'd like to see Pick get a chance to run the offense this week. He won the job outright before the season started, then lost it after one game when, clearly, he had no help from the rest of the offense. I'd like to see what he might be able to do if given a second chance. Webb clearly has the best arm, but he's pretty careless with the ball. Meachum seems to me to have been the most poised of the 3 QB's. Pick is clearly the best runner. I still have no idea if he can throw a pass. The couple of times he's had a chance to play, the offensive line hasn't given him a chance.

GridironHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

I don't really agree with Pick as the QB. However, he sure would make a great person to run the "wild" whatever offense (don't agree with calling it the Wildcat formation). I was very surprised KU did not try and go to one of the more athletic QBs and role the pocket out. At least it might have helped buy a couple extra seconds (that would have gave the QB a total of 3 seconds to try and get a pass off). The pocket was collapsing so fast and from all directions that Mecham had no chance to make a play. At least a roll-out allows a QB to buy some time.

Ben Kliewer 9 years, 3 months ago

You know it's called the Wildcat because Snyder developed the style at K-State right? I mean, I'm a Jayhawk through and through, but you gotta give credit where credit is due... I did not mean for that to rhyme. Granted, the Wildcat formation was developed from previous formations, but the current usage comes out of what Snyder was doing with Michael Bishop at State. We can at least be proud it came out of the state of Kansas and not Kentucky...

JBurtin 9 years, 3 months ago

From Wikipedia: The Wall Street Journal credited Hugh Wyatt, a longtime coach in the Pacific Northwest, with naming the offense. Wyatt, coaching the La Center (WA) High School Wildcats, published an article in Scholastic Coach and Athletic Director magazine in 1998, where he explained his version of the offense, which relied on two wing backs and two backfield players directly behind the center alternating who would receive the snap. Many other high school football programs across the United States adopted Wyatt's Wildcat offense.[6]

There is also a blurb crediting Bill Snyder, but since it's from Wikipedia it was almost certainly written by a K-State fan. I find the reference from the Wall Street Journal article to be a bit more objective.

Oh and BTW jhox, Pick has sucked horribly when he's been in. Sure the offensive line could be better, but Pick is absolutely terrible about holding on to the ball waaay too long. He's just not a good decision maker when the pressure is on.

bigtex 9 years, 3 months ago

Long wants a pocket Qb. After watching this season develope, the play calling designs are definitely for a pocket Qb. When Mecham was named starter you know Gill and Long don't care about an athletic Qb. After watching NU game and seeing Mecham physically lay down before the sacks even happened I thought wow this kid is a big puss or Long told him to lay down. That type of play is sickening to watch, playing not win but to survive.

ahpersecoachingexperience 9 years, 3 months ago

Tired of losing. Sick of reading false optimism. Tired of losing. Sick of homers who are satisfied with 3 wins and empty memorial stadium. Tired of losing. Sick of thinking what osu's balanced attack is going to do to us. Tired of losing. Sick and tired of being sick and tired. Going out of the country for a few days, have at it homers.

Al Martin 9 years, 3 months ago

I'm far from a homer, and as frustrated as any 'Hawk fan could be, but let me be the first to say: Take your time. You won't be missed.

ralphus 9 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the update on your travel schedule, sucktard.

Jayhawk1075 9 years, 3 months ago

Somebody call the Waaaaaaaambulance......for Pete's sake. Whiner......

John Myers 9 years, 3 months ago

If you could kindly stay gone permanently, we'd be most appreciative.. Enjoy your sad, pathetic life in solitude, rather than polluting the boards here. Thanks.

Mike Skiles 9 years, 3 months ago

We can all hope that when you try to return to the country, and airport security gives you a 'pat down', they'll deny you re-entry. TSA doesn't like whiners either.

kufootball2008 9 years, 3 months ago

Our defense played great (for themselves). O-Line pretty decent as well, but still a little inconsistent.

Hard for any defense not to play well against a team that runs the same off-tackle handoff each play. Still unsure why we don't air it out from time to time. We've got good receivers. Perhaps the most frustraing thing for me this season has been our offensive play calling. Just don't get it.

Marcia Parsons 9 years, 3 months ago

We don't know that they haven't tried other things in practice that just haven't worked out. The plays they're using may be the only ones they have confidence in. There are a lot of players to learn a lot of new things, and, unfortunately, players learn at different rates.

Jayhawk1075 9 years, 3 months ago

Game went a little better than I expected. Nice defensive play. Let's keep working on it Hawks.


troutsee 9 years, 3 months ago

"NU did not want to make Gill look bad." How utterly ridiculous. Pellini wanted a big win and he did not get it because our defense played very well. Give credit where credit is due.

JBurtin 9 years, 3 months ago

Nice to see that you don't let pesky little things like facts get in your way. One need look no further than the recruiting rankings for Buffalo over the last 10 years or so to see that there was a significant improvement in recruting in the 4 years that Gill was there.

Not to mention, you obviously haven't been reading the weekly articles on the Shiver. Nearly all of our recruits are the key players on very good high school teams.

Layne Pierce 9 years, 3 months ago

As a rational person, I am greatly amused by the debate going on here between the everything is bad, and everything is good crowds. We are not a very good football team, ok, but we are a better team than we were 3 weeks ago. How good are the recruits Gill has commitments from? Well, we will find out, but we do know that Gill is looking for leaner, faster meaner players. Heaven knows we need them.

When he took the job, he said he was looking to build a dynasty, well we are on the way, but don't be surprised if he does not commit suicide or a game, or a couple of games. He is trying to look big picture.

No Nebraska. I think that's great. It gives us a chance to get the elephant off our psyche. KState owns Texas, Texas owns Nebraska, Nebraska makes a crying B- out of us.

Do any of you negative types really think that Mangino would have won any more games with this bunch? And where are all the great players Mangino recruited? He certainly did not recruit a lot of great quarterbacks? There was never really anybody to replace Reesing.

For you wow, we are getting better types, yes, we are, but so is everybody else. To have a winning season we have to get better better than other people. Think about that.

grandpa 9 years, 3 months ago

Everything starts with the quarterback. Bottom line is Kansas does not have a quarterback. LMecham holds the ball too long befor geting rid of it. Pitiful showing on his passing. Donit blame it all on the Nebraska defense.

HawkTronic 9 years, 3 months ago

Uh, it actually starts (and ends) with the O-Line. There were only a couple plays that KU didn't have 3 Blackshirts in the backfield before the play developed. It's no coincidence that Gill's first half dozen recruits were linemen. We are weak up front. If we had a better O-Line, I believe we could have won three more games this year.

caribhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Carl Pelini said KU had new offensive wrinkles (maybe McDougald at wildcat), but it clearly didn't make a difference, it was still basically a predictable running offense which looked like a handful of plays. The only semi-impressive offensive performance was 2nd game of year against Georgia Tech when Turner scrapped everything from the N. Dakota State game and went to a spread offensve that resembled the Mangino years, so he could get the ball in the hands of KU's wide receivers - - the only weapons that KU has. That plan has since been scrapped for a conservative run offense, although KU's strength remains at wide receiver. KU refuses to help out an inexperienced q-back by giving him 3-step drops to throw short slants and screen passes. The offensive play calling is horrible and really doesn't require any scouting. I don't think Turner was in the mood to give his former team a tussle even if KU could, Turner was not about to call any trick plays that might "embarrass" his former school. Just glad that Hawkins was coaching Colorado when we played them, and not interim coach Cabral. Regarding recruiting, per, KU is 8th in the Big 12 in recruiting, not good, not horrible, but only one 4-star recruit - - definitely not the "fantastic" recruiting that everyone seemed to think that TG would bring. May as well play the young guys the last 2 games of the season, it doesn't appear this staff knows the best players that should be on the field anyway.

DevilHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

This season is not about this season. Have you really not realized that?

We opened the season with: No QB with significant FBS experience A mediocre o-line that was depleted by injuries A pathetic pass defense (going back to the 2008 season) Remaining divisions within the team because of the coaching change Implementing a new system on offense Implementing a new system on defense

Moreover, considering that we cannot become bowl eligible, it would be incompetent to pull the redshirts from our other players.

Ben Kliewer 9 years, 3 months ago

What? An intelligent person presenting an argument with solid support? Outrageous!

Mike Skiles 9 years, 3 months ago

Wow - very well stated and the most lucid post on this thread. Well done. I would also add, that anyone who thought this season was going to be 'competitive' in the Big 12, after the University ran their prior coach out on the rails and with him a number of solid recruits coming to KU, was smoking something that is illegal. I've been impressed with the last several games, and Gill seems to have the team at least showing up for the ask more of this season is ridiculous and shallow.

Jeff Hargate 9 years, 3 months ago

I think we need to pick our poison. We can either try to win, turn the ball over a few times and lose 55-7 or keep from turning the ball over 4 times and run the same old plays and lose 20-3. Either way, Gill is not going to win anyone over this year and especially not in these last 3 games against ranked teams.

Jeff Hargate 9 years, 3 months ago

One more thing. If you watched the game on Saturday night you can definantely tell that Gill has not lost this team. There was a lot of fight and enthusiasm out there. Can Gill coach? Who knows, but he seems to have their ear.

honk_for_hawks 9 years, 3 months ago

new coaches NEVER do well. especially when most of the best players graduate/leave early the year before. the only time new coaches ever even do okay is when they are hired from within or when they are a blueblood with ridiculous amounts of talent sitting around (like OU,USC, etc). you cannot judge a guy in his first year at a program. usually after 3 years you can tell if they are gonna work out. by then, their first recruiting class will have come in, redshirted and played at least one season. so gill deserves at least that. plus, he isn't going anywhere anyway for at least that long. no buyout clause means KU sure as hell isn't going to pay him 8 million just to leave.

Lance Cheney 9 years, 3 months ago

If Nebraska was supposed to keep the score low, they wouldn't be passing the ball in the final minute of the game with a 17-point lead. I think that might just be an excuse for Husker fans to help them save face after only winning by 17 at home against one of the worst teams in Division-I college football.

gchawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Exactly. With bowl implications there is no way they would intentionally keep the score low, on the contrary, they would want to run it up as much as possible in order to keep what just happened from happening, and that is, to keep from dropping in rankings. Glad we could help out!!!

Ben Kliewer 9 years, 3 months ago

You know what I think? I think that Gill has lost all the players, none of them ever show up to practice, Osborne called President Obama to have him issue a decree that didn't allow KU to lose by more than 17, our football team should have gone undefeated and won a national championship this year, all our players are slow and fat, yet all our losses are Gill's fault for some reason, the low quality of our players is somehow Gill's fault, even though most of them are Mangino's recruits, and Mangino is perfect and can do no wrong. Wait, oh, I'm sorry, I don't think any of those things. You know why? Because that would be ridiculous. Bring back the Navy Blue Uniforms!

stuck88 9 years, 3 months ago

Please not the navy blue uniforms, but I wouldnt mind seeing the names put back on the jerseys

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