Sunday, December 16, 2007

Cats find solace in Hawaii


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2007-08 Dec. 15 KU-Ohio Basketball

— Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometimes - but not very often - you go on to Hawaii.

"The good thing," Ohio U. coach Tim O'Shea said after the Bobcats' 88-51 bashing by Kansas University on Saturday in the Sprint Center, "is I get to lick my wounds on Waikiki Beach."

Ohio's traveling party was scheduled to board an airplane for the Hawaiian Islands this morning, with the Bobcats slated to play St. John's on Wednesday in the Rainbow Classic.

"They're as good as I expected," Ohio senior forward Leon Williams said of the Jayhawks, "but we still get to go to Honolulu, so I can't complain too much."

Ohio's extended road trip began at Maryland three nights ago and resulted in a shocking 61-55 victory over the Terps. But there would not be back-to-back stunners, and O'Shea suspected as much.

"The fact we beat Maryland, I think that made (the Jayhawks) more focused," the 'Cats' coach said. "It might have been different if we had stumbled in here. Either way, they were superior to us."

O'Shea prescribed a zone defense from the outset, figuring the Jayhawks might struggle shooting from the outside and, at the same time, his players might catch fire.

What happened was the Bobcats caught cold. A seven-minute scoreless stretch midway through the first half enabled Kansas to explode from a 10-9 edge to a 29-9 cushion.

"We knew they had to miss a lot of shots because the size differential was so great," O'Shea said. "And we had to shoot lights-out."

As it was, Ohio couldn't hit Kansas City from the top of the Liberty Memorial. The Bobcats threw brickbats. So bad was their first-half shooting that they managed just one - that's right, one - two-point goal.

OU's 20-point first half consisted of six free throws, four three-pointers and Justin Orr's short jumper with 9:17 showing. The 'Cats shot 17.2 percent (5 of 29) in the first 20 minutes.

"We knew we would have to play our A-game," O'Shea said, "and it would have to be a C- or D-game for them."

Ohio received KU's A-game in the first half instead. Meanwhile, the Bobcats didn't flunk out, but they certainly weren't much better than a D-minus.

"When we beat Maryland," guard Bubba Walther said, "we got every loose ball. On one possession, (Kansas) had four rebounds. They're just more talented than we are."

Faced with a 26-point deficit to start the second half, the only real drama swirled around whether the Bobcats would manage more two-pointers than three-pointers. Final accounting: Nine twos and eight threes.

O'Shea tossed a lei at the Jayhawks' bench before leaving for the beach.

"Their second five : that team could win the Atlantic-10," the Ohio coach said, "and finish in the top division of any league in the country."


jayhawkinATL 12 years, 6 months ago

Have fun in cold-ass Dallas, APDJayhawk!!!!

Chris McIlvain 12 years, 6 months ago

Jross - if you graduated in 1972, go change your Depends and keep your un-original attempt at humor, or banter, or whatever it is to yourself...

Joe Ross 12 years, 6 months ago

As far as Im concerned, youve just unwittingly let slip your Missourable origins...we dont use the word "putz" in Kansas. Go back to the drawing board and think of some other way to try to pull the, the "COTTON"...over our eyes.

ROCK CHALK (you wouldnt know what that means...)

Chris McIlvain 12 years, 6 months ago

YAWN!!! KU is always this good during the regular season. Come March, bring the water because they will choke as always!

Joe Ross 12 years, 6 months ago

"Their second five : that team could win the Atlantic-10," the Ohio coach said, "and finish in the top division of any league in the country."

Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen...Kansas is THAT good!

Ed Fox 12 years, 6 months ago

Of course he's a troll - but some comments are just dumber than others. KU hasn't looked this good this early at any point under Self. If they improve at the rate DURING the season that they have the last few years - they could definitely be scary good.

jaybate 12 years, 6 months ago


Lebowski makes a good point. I would like to hear your thoughts on the following:

  1. Tell us about what sacks of ca-ca the MU fans are.

  2. Tell us about how MU's win at Arrowhead over KU in football was a fluke and how KU would beat MU 9 times out of 10.

  3. Tell us all about how the real MU team showed up vs. OU.

  4. Tell us about how just it is that KU gets to go to the Orange Bowl while MU gets to go to a chump bowl.

  5. Tell us all about how MU is a second rate basketball program that hires coaches that never raise MU up to KU's level in basketball.

Go ahead. We can't lose here. If you pay lipservice to everything above, its wonderful watching an MU fan humiliate himself/herself. If you fess up to who you are, then we get to expose you for the lurker that you've always been. And if you fail to respond, we know you are spineless.

One last thing--I REALLY want to hear you say the magic words: Rock Chalk Jayhawk, GO KU! :-)

Joe Ross 12 years, 6 months ago

Someone said once, and its worth repeating...

How appropriate is it that the slave state of Missouri is now picking Cotton.

truefan 12 years, 6 months ago

I have argued many times with ApudD. It got boring though because it is waaaaaay too easy to shut him up. He just tries to throw out stats that are incorrect and as soon as you expose them as false his arguement falls out from underneath him and everyone just laughs at him on the message boards. What a sad life he must have.

Dan Harris 12 years, 6 months ago

APD##K- I'll send you some oranges, you can keep your cotton.

Chris McIlvain 12 years, 6 months ago

I think it's easier for you putz's to assume I'm tied to MU in some way...but it's just not true. Fact is, I'm a KU alum who's tired of the GREAT regular seasons only to be disappointed come March. #3 winningest program in history is 20 years removed from it's last National Championship. How many have Kentucky and North Carolina won in the last 20 years? One N.C. is still more than Kansas. Of course the regular season is exciting...but it's a means to an end and we haven't seen the end result we desire in 20 years. YAWN!

JayCeph 12 years, 6 months ago

Does it bother anyone else that KU settled for the three when Ohio went to their zone? I know we were hitting a decent percentage from the 3 but with our size advantage, wouldn't it have made more sense to just shove our 'high-low' down their throats?

Don't get me wrong, I thought Ohio seemed like a class team that didn't resort to petty fouls and antics when they were down... it's just that when you have such a solid imbalance in your favor, you exploit it. What happens on the day(s) when our 3-ball isn't falling?

Tony Peck 12 years, 6 months ago

Hey ADP,

The Red Sox didnt win a world series in 86 years. That didnt stop their fans from being loyal. 20 years? Big deal. At least we know what kind of a fan you are...if you are actually a Jayhawk..

tdub 12 years, 6 months ago

The thing I find most befuddling about APD is that he spends all his obviously ample free time on a site devoted to the Hawks. I can honestly say I've never been to an MU-devoted webpage out of sheer apathy towards the tigers. Shows a little bit about the state of that program to the east when all APD can do is try to pick on KU's weaknesses.

On the off chance that he is a sheep in sheep's clothing, then I suppose we must redefine the term "fan". He would be in a class all by himself.

Joe Ross 12 years, 6 months ago


RE: "Jross - if you graduated in 1972, go change your Depends and keep your un-original attempt at humor, or banter, or whatever it is to yourself..."

Is the "Depends" comment original? Is it humorous? Let me know when Im supposed to split a side, and I'll do my best to feign it for ya.

Chris McIlvain 12 years, 6 months ago

JRoss - it was actually a suggestion. An incontinent man your age shouldn't sit in his own waste for too long.
TPeck - do you honestly think Red Sox fans sat around for 86 years talking the regular season up, when they actually had good regular seasons? What an idiotic analogy.

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