Wednesday, May 6, 2020

KU receives NCAA response in violations case

The NCAA headquarters in Indianapolis is pictured, Thursday, March 12, 2020. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

The NCAA headquarters in Indianapolis is pictured, Thursday, March 12, 2020. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)


The University of Kansas has received a response from NCAA enforcement staff in the violations allegations case against its men's basketball and football programs, the Journal-World has confirmed from a source close to the situation.

It's unclear when exactly KU received the response — the NCAA's deadline to respond was Tuesday — or if it will be made public.

The Journal-World filed a request for the response under the Kansas Open Records Act on Tuesday, but has not received the document.

The response from the NCAA enforcement staff is one of the final steps in the case, which began when KU received the NCAA’s original Notice of Allegations in September. Now that KU has received the response from the NCAA, the next step in the process will be a hearing before the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions. It’s not known when that hearing would take place.

KU issued its defense against the allegations on March 5, after the NOA was amended several times. The NCAA enforcement staff then had 60 days to respond to that defense, meaning that its deadline was on Tuesday.

In the original NOA, the NCAA alleged the KU’s men’s basketball program and coach Bill Self committed five severe violations tied to recruiting. The football program was also accused of some lower-level violations — the origins of which are being disputed in a lawsuit filed by former coach David Beaty.

The allegations carry potential punishments that could keep the basketball program from the NCAA tournament for the first time since 1989 and result in a long-term suspension for Self, among other possible penalties.

In KU’s 149-page response to the NOA in March, the university and its outside legal team argued that the NCAA’s evidence in the case is not credible, and it did not acknowledge that any violations took place in its men’s basketball program.

The response, separate from individual responses by Self and assistant coach Kurtis Townsend, argued that the NCAA’s allegations rely on a “never before alleged theory” that employees of corporate partners are boosters to college athletic programs.

Sports editor Matt Tait contributed to this article, which will be updated as more information becomes available.


Dyrk Dugan 2 years ago

Frankly, KU should tell the LJW and any other publishing or broadcast entity, to pound sand, and not release a thing. This isn’t a court matter; although the federal courts dragged our name through the mud previously to “force” the NCAA to investigate. We’ve seen the allegations and KU’s response; now, it’s an internal matter with an NCAA member school; it’s not “Judge Judy.” The final result will come out in due time after all the committee votes and appeals are complete.

Joe Black 2 years ago

Kind of stupid arguments now to try and penalize a school because of alleged payments by shoe companies at the same time that the NCAA is pushing to allow individual players to make money off their likeness by shoe and athletic wear companies. Talk about a double standard.

Jeff Foster 2 years ago

Kind of agree. It would be ironic if KU gets punished for a broken system, for something that has gone on for decades. Heck, IF, KU players got paid and IF KU staffers knew about it, now that players can legally get paid, shouldn't KU be hailed as pioneers?!?! :-)

Keith Gellar 2 years ago

not really. Again - let me dumb it down for you folks. The speed limit is 25. you get busted for going 35 one fine day. If the next day, they raise the speed limit to 35, doesn't mean you can come out and say you were wrongly convicted. You broke the law technically,and you got caught so you have to accept that.

We need to quit trying to act as if we didn't do anything. just like all the other blueblood, we are a dirty program. we just got caught. so quit whining about double standards. if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Joe Black 2 years ago

Let me DUMB IT DOWN for you Mr. Gellar. In America you are innocent until proven guilty. In the court of law KU was found to be the victim of a crime not the criminal. The NCAA made huge leaps into what they think happened with no real proof other than one player who never played a game at KU and another that only received a small amount and had to sit out way too long for that violation. The point being made is: the NCAA obviously doesn't really care if players are paid or not since they are pushing for it to be "legal" in their eyes. The NCAA has a long history of being judge and jury in these cases but are very selective in who they penalize. Kentucky has turned their middle finger up to the NCAA starting at least back to the 50's, yet they are never truly ever punished. There are numerous other examples of double standards from other schools that the NCAA treats as untouchables: Duke, UNC, etc.

Ken Tschetter 2 years ago

I agree with Keith that if KU did the crime, there will be punishment, even though the rules may change on athlete compensation going forward. However, I think the double standard is that the NCAA seems to be trying to make an example out of KU. There is credible evidence that Zion was paid to attend Duke, ("consultant" payments made to his mother, which led to Michael Avenatti trying to blackmail Nike) but the NCAA looks the other way. Can't kill the golden goose. The Adidas cases went to trial first...why not Nike (a Duke school)? What phone calls were made to the upper levels of the US Attorneys Office to help guide them, informally of course, as to which case they choose to take to trial first. Makes me wonder.
Also I seem to recall that when KU agreed to designate the Adidas guy as a "booster" they specifically said it was for purposes of Silvio's reinstatement issue ONLY. The NCAA is trying to apply that now to their violations case, but KU has not conceded the point.

Stephen Johnson 2 years ago

NCAA is clearly trying to make an example of KU. I don't see any direct connection to a KU employee, unless they consider players employees.

Matt Gauntt 2 years ago

If the NCAA really wanted to do something, they would put sanctions on the shoe companies.

Oh, wait.......that would mean less revenue for the NCAA, and of course we can't have that.

Keith Gellar 2 years ago

NCAA has not authority to put sanctions over shoe companies. that's just absurd. drop the kool aid.

Ryan Mullen 2 years ago

I think I'm starting to see why they discounted season tickets. They know they are getting shut down this year for the tourney.

Doug Horn 2 years ago

I have to agree with cutting to the chase and get on with this. The fact is that we agreed to call/label Adidas a booster in order to have the NCAA hear an appeal of the two year suspension of Silvio De Sousa. Ultimately that is at the center of the NCAA claim and I believe that it was a huge mistake on the part of KU's Athletic department to do that. There were plenty of people at ESPN that would have supported a public story/trial of the NCAA for the singling out Silvio only. If KU had gone to ESPN to tell the story that the NCAA was trying to make them label Adidas a booster to have Silvio's case heard that would have been a big deal. I am sure there is an attorney would have taken a discrimination case against the NCAA. To date the NCAA has done nothing to Silvio's guardian and he has something like 19 other players that he is the guardian for, who are playing for other NCAA college teams. If they wanted to stop him it is very simple, but that would stop quality players from making the NCAA money. I hope the KU Nation is smart enough to know that we are not clean in this matter at all. Hopefully it doesn't end up being 5 major violations, but what ever the punishment is we need to accept that we got ourselves into this. The NCAA is using this as a way to clean up their image that has been tarnished by the FBI doing their own investigation. We just need to get on with it! I wouldn't be surprised to see this thing stretch beyond next season.

Bret Eckert 2 years ago

What bothers me most:

Coach Cal did not just turn over a new leaf and all of a sudden go clean.

Alleged player we were gonna pay went to Duke. And not for free.

UNC got nothing for committing the same violations mizzou got hammered on. .

Nike Trial?????

Pius Waldman 2 years ago

Obviously NCAA right now is having many problems and the coronavirus is a challenge. Also faced with the pay to athletes hard to see what might happen. Evidently the not making public the decision means not final. Our local paper wants to gain information that maybe isn't final. Guess we will need to wait and see. The punishment De Sousa received can not be changed. Including that the Big 12 and KU decided. I suppose just holding the chair up in the air appears to be nearly as bad as using it. Today what happens with the coronavirus may be the biggest challenge.

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