Tuesday, October 27, 2015

L.A. Times rates KU second in sending players to NBA

Kansas University basketball recruiting

Kansas University basketball recruiting


A Sunday article in the Los Angeles Times figures to give Kansas University’s basketball staff some recruiting material as the Nov. 11-18 early-signing period nears.

KU basketball, the newspaper reported, is tied with UCLA nationally in producing the second-most NBA players since high school standouts were forced to attend college one year (starting with the 2006 NBA Draft).

The Jayhawks and Bruins have sent 18 players to the NBA in the so-called “one and done era,” trailing Kentucky (23) by five players. Duke, North Carolina and Syracuse followed by shipping 17, 15 and 14 players to the NBA in that nine-year span.

Ken Pom speaks:, which specializes in using an abundance of stats in making its rankings and observations, has KU fourth in its preseason Top 25. In an interesting twist, Maryland, which tops some polls, is listed No. 24 by Ken Pomeroy.

The Top 25: Duke, Kentucky, Virginia, KU, Villanova, Arizona, North Carolina, Gonzaga, Wisconsin, Baylor, Oklahoma, Utah, Indiana, Cincinnati, Wichita State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa State, Vanderbilt, Miami, Purdue, SMU, Maryland, Louisville.

Giles’ final visit coming: Harry Giles, the No. 2-rated player in the recruiting Class of 2016, makes his fifth and final recruiting visit — to Duke — this weekend.

Giles, a 6-foot-10, 220-pound senior from Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Virginia, has already been to KU for Late Night in the Phog and Kentucky for Big Blue Madness. A native of Winston-Salem, North Carolina, he has also visited Wake Forest. He recently canceled a visit to University of North Carolina.

Oak Hill coach Steve Smith told that Giles will announce for a school either Nov. 12 or 13 on ESPNU or in Winston-Salem when Oak Hill plays in the Phenom Hoop Classic on Nov. 13-14.

Bolden decision looms: It remains to be seen if No. 16-ranked Marques Bolden, a 6-10 senior forward from DeSoto (Texas) High, will wait for Giles to pick a school or commit first. Bolden has visited KU, Kentucky, Duke and Oklahoma and made an unofficial to Alabama. He’s also considering Baylor, TCU and Wake Forest. Bolden has yet to say for sure whether he’ll sign early or late.

Allen to visit UK soon: No. 20-ranked Jarrett Allen, a 6-9 senior forward from St. Stephens Episcopal School in Austin, Texas, visited KU last weekend and will visit Kentucky this upcoming weekend. He’s also made an official visit to Notre Dame and is also considering Houston, Indiana, Kansas State, North Carolina and Texas. Allen averaged 21.4 points, 13.3 rebounds and 4.3 blocks last season and was named the Austin American-Statesman’s all-Central Texas player of the year.

It seems nobody has a firm read on Allen’s recruitment, except Allen himself.

“He’s not overly active on social media and often spends as minimal amount of time as possible on the phone with college coaches during the time allotted by the NCAA. It’s common for a text from a college coach to go unanswered for days, sometimes even weeks,” writes Tom Noie of the South Bend Tribune.

“He’s a very unique individual,” Allen’s AAU coach, Marland Lowe, told the South Bend Tribune. “But that’s just him. He’s all about winning. He’s a quiet guy on the outside, but he cares. He’s passionate about the game on the inside. He’s just not a rah-rah guy.”

All’s quiet on Herard front: Schnider Herard, a 6-10 senior forward from Prestonwood Christian Academy in Plano, Texas, who is ranked No. 34 nationally, has visited KU, Mississippi State, Purdue and Texas Tech. He has said he will take a final visit to a yet-to-be-determined school and will sign in the early period.

Azubuike visits UNC: Udoka Azubuike, a 6-11 senior forward from Potter’s House in Jacksonville, Florida, who is ranked No. 27 nationally, visited North Carolina last weekend. He’s also visited KU, Florida State and North Carolina State and will decide in December. One more visit figures to take place.

“We are going to talk and figure out the last one, as there are three schools in consideration (for visit),” Harry Coxsome, mentor of Azubuike, told

Of the UNC visit, Coxsome told “I think one of the biggest things was just how big of a school it is and how big of a network the alumni have there. There have been a lot of guys go on to the NBA from North Carolina and some guys that have gone on to become NBA analysts and things like that. I know some of the other schools have that too, Kansas is one of them, but I’m not sure anyone has the network as big as North Carolina’s.”


Rodney Crain 6 years, 9 months ago

With all the love our program is getting you have to wonder why it is so hard for us to sign top 100 ranked players earlier.

We seem to be ranked pretty low over the past few seasons compared to KY, Duke, NC, NCS, MSU, FS, AL, UCLA, Viallanova, Auburn, Virgina ........

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

Not just a Kansas phenomenon. Players are waiting because they want to know that space is available on the roster for them to get PT coming in. Why they are going to Arizona, Kentucky, Duke is a separate question.

Rodney Crain 6 years, 9 months ago

Joe not at the schools I listed, all of those schools got a commitment from a player in the top 35 for 2016 already. 2 of those schools actually have 2 players in the Top 35 signed.

With what we have to offer it is stunning that we can not sign a top player, like all those other schools, in the early period.

Trent Rose 6 years, 9 months ago

I'm not exactly sure why it matters when they sign. What matters is they are getting those players. It is nice, for peace of mind, to sign them early -- but most of the top 20 players typically wait until the late signing period. The reason is to see which players leave and to make sure the head coach (coaching staff) will be at the school before they sign.

Rodney Crain 6 years, 9 months ago

There are only 29 top 100 players left. 10 in the top 20. Why be last to the party?

10 of the top 20 players have signed already so Trent that arguement that players typically wait is not accurate.

Your head coach arguement does not hold water either, Self is not going anywhere. Coach K maybe but he has two top 20 players signed already.

Something is amiss. I am unsure if our conference looks weak or our market coverage, or that we do not have a conference network. Actually if you look at what we have to offer, everything and playing time next season at the 4 and 5. This should be a slam dunk, not another wait till spring time situation.

Self will patch together a late class that will look good or very good, but why the scramble at the end for 2-3 players?

Trent Rose 6 years, 9 months ago

Your impatience is hilarious, Rodney. Like a little child that just has to have the toy the moment they see it in the store. Again it doesn't matter when they sign - it's the quality of recruits. Diallo and Bragg (fringe top 20); Alexander and Oubre; Wiggins, Selden and Embiid were all top 20 players signed in the last three classes.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

I'd rather have a player who wants Kansas over a guy who picks Kansas because of playing time.

Kit Duncan 6 years, 9 months ago

It could have something to do with location. Many of the top schools are on or near a coast or major metropolitan area. Students like Svi, Cheick and Coleby can commit to Kansas because their families live in other countries, and going home for the weekend, or having parents drive up for the weekend, is not an option.

The freshmen whose parents moved to Lawrence or lived nearby, have possibly done better than freshmen whose parents/family were a long way away. Sophomores who stuck it out have for the most part thrived under Coach Self once they got over being far from home. On that note, I believe Svi will blossom into the player everybody hoped he would be last season.


Kent Richardson 6 years, 9 months ago

All interesting questions are raised here.

A few more recent final fours would help.

The success of Kentucky and Duke with top recruits one after another makes them a sexy choice.

Location is a factor. This is the middle of the mid west. Rural and conservative and not a huge university. We make up for this by being appreciative and loyal to our team and players. We frequently hear our former players speak fondly of the program and the fans.

Maybe we miss Manning as a draw although there is a generation gap and a lot of recruits don't know who he was. Lightfoot mentioned recent players but he is a fan. I manage 20 to 30 year old's and you learn pretty quick the world has moved on.

One thing the top programs have in common is stability with head coaching and a surprisingly limited number of scandals.

You can be sure Bill Self is concerned about high level recruiting and the new dorm digs are a direct result of that concern.

Tyler Capone 6 years, 9 months ago

I wonder where we are on the list that produces the most busts.

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