Wednesday, November 4, 2015

Cheick Diallo case remains ongoing

Kansas head coach Bill Self directs his offense during the second half on Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2015 at Allen Fieldhouse.

Kansas head coach Bill Self directs his offense during the second half on Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2015 at Allen Fieldhouse.


Bill Self spent his Wednesday morning and afternoon working as an administrator, not as a basketball coach.

“I didn’t prepare for the game (89-66 win over Pittsburg State). I didn’t go to practice today. I didn’t meet with the team pre-game. I was in meetings all day,” said Self, trying to help resolve the Cheick Diallo eligibility situation. 

KU’s 6-foot-9 freshman forward from Mali has yet to be deemed academically eligible for competition by the NCAA Eligibility Center.

“This was the worst day a coach could have to open a season because you should be excited about a season. You spend all day dealing with other things that are more important than your actual season. Of course that has to be done. I totally understand that. It’s disappointing we’re dealing with it on Nov. 4,” Self added.

Self told Diallo at 4 p.m., that he wouldn’t be playing in the exhibition game because his case remains ongoing.

“There wasn’t progress but there were certainly talks. The talks are ongoing,” Self said. “The process is still playing itself out. I was very disappointed for Cheick that we let him know at 4 o’clock today he wouldn’t be suited up, but that’s the nature of the business. Certainly I’m hopeful everybody is working diligently to try to resolve this in the earliest manner it can possibly be resolved. It’s disappointing but one in which it wasn’t from a lack of effort today on our part, I’ll say that.”

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Dealing with Cheick Diallo situation, Bill Self had busy day

After discussing his team's exhibition opener against Pittsburg State, which exposed some weaknesses of Kansas, coach Bill Self details how busy and disappointing a day he had leading up to the game, due to being in constant meetings regarding the eligibility of freshman Cheick Diallo.

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Self was asked if this is a situation where Diallo might be eligible for a certain amount of games, say second semester.

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Graham, Ellis and Bragg on victory over Pittsburg State

Kansas basketball players Devonté Graham, Perry Ellis and Carlton Bragg discuss the Jayhawks' first exhibition of the 2015-16 season, an 89-66 victory over Pittsburg State.

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“I would like to say that is not possible, but after going through the process I’d say anything is possible,” Self said. “Not putting any blame or fault on anything. It’s just there’s a few moving parts. The NCAA has to follow policy on those parts. So it can be a little frustrating but certainly it’s not one at this point and time to stand up and beat the drum saying, ‘This should positively happen.’ I think we have to respect the process.”

Self was asked if it’s “normal” to have back and forth discussions (with the NCAA) about an eligibility matter.

“I’ll be real honest. I don’t know what’s normal. I personally don’t think this is normal. I don’t know what’s normal,” he repeated.

Asked flat out if KU has actually received a ruling and KU may be in an appeals process, Self said: “I can’t say. I’ve been told to let the process play (out).”

And asked when it would be determined if Diallo is eligible or not, Self said: “I thought everything would be done by today. The thing about it is it may be a long time, it could be a long time just because if there’s a ruling ... if it does not go the way you want, there are numerous opportunities you have to fight in (appeal).”

Other players in attendance: The Texas Wesleyan basketball team, which plays Park University today in Olathe, attended the KU-Pitt State game. Former Free State guard Doug Compton plays for Wesleyan. Also in the crowd was former KU guard Merv Lindsay, who played for both New Mexico and Wesleyan after leaving KU.

This, that: KU junior Landen Lucas started, but picked up two quick fouls. He had no points and two rebounds in eight minutes. "Landen was nicked up, that's why he didn't play. He turned his ankle pretty severely yesterday but wanted to play tonight," Self said. ... KU for the 2015-16 season has added several countertops for fans on the second level to use as they dine on concessions. Also, there are additional concession areas in the fieldhouse this season. There are now 16 points of sale on the second level compared to eight last year. ... Schnider Herard, a 6-foot-10, 255-pound senior center from Prestonwood Christian Academy in Plano, Texas, who at one time was being recruited by KU, on Wednesday committed to Mississippi State. Sources said the Jayhawks backed off on the No. 34-ranked (by Herard recently with KU having landed 6-9 Mitch Lightfoot and still in the running for several other big men including Jarrett Allen, Udoka Azubuike, Marques Bolden and Harry Giles.

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Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

I'd love to hear Self's candid, unfiltered, non media friendly opinions of the NCAA right now. I know what the general idea would be, I'd just love to hear Self tear into the NCAA for this one.

Brett McCabe 6 years, 9 months ago

Or, he could recruit kids that are eligible to play and save all the drama.

Jay Scott 6 years, 9 months ago

Which kids would that be Brett? Are kids cleared as Juniors? As Seniors? How? Do they come with an "NCAA Cleared" sticker. Do they get this at birth?

Maybe posting your thoughts in public is something you should avoid Brett?

Steve Williams 6 years, 9 months ago

maybe you should take a crash course in sports recruiting and academic qualifiers

John Randall 6 years, 9 months ago

None of this has to do with recruiting –– It is simply one NCAA malcontent stretching his "fifteen minutes of fame" beyond reasonable, legal and ethical bounds.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

Cheick declared for Kansas on April 28th. The eligibility issues were not known about until mid-July. If we stopped recruiting players who may have an eligibility issue pop up down the road, we would recruit no one. That goes for every man currently on the roster, everyone who's played under Self at Kansas, and all future recruits as well.

There is no drama that is being generated in the manner that you suggest.

Brett McCabe 6 years, 9 months ago

I see that trying harder doesn't mean much to you, Joe.

Overstatements such as "we could recruit no one" may feel good to write, but they are overreaches for dramatic effect. Good for drama, bad for relevancy.

Self essentially said himself that it was drama. He couldn't prepare properly for a game, and I suppose that means that he could not prepare the team properly. And it showed.

Here's another definition of drama and distraction, if Bill's own admission isn't enough, imagine this scenario; play an exhibition game on Wednesday, and then have 90% of the conversation among fans centered around the eligibility of someone who didn't play.

KU is responsible for the players it signs. No one else. I know that people like to play the victim, and blame the big, bad NCAA but we're here because we put ourselves here.

Jay Scott 6 years, 9 months ago

Brett...You've made a fool of yourself. Is it imperative that you blame everyone else for your ignorance? Stop.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

The "drama" is not rooted in how Kansas recruited Diallo, and that's what you're not getting. How can anyone know of problems before they are apparent? If your position is that they were, you should cite sources.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

So KU is responsible because Chris Alexander's mom might have received an improper loan? The question was never answered. You would think that the NCAA would follow through their investigation... Well I would anyways.

Was Kansas responsible when Ben McLemore and Jamari Traylor were forced to sit out the season because of MURKY transcripts? The NCAA was unable to declare them ineligible so they overreached their authority and declared them "partial qualifiers"? Murky is the NCAA's descriptive term - not mine.

Braden Anderson was forced to leave Kansas before his freshman year because of questionable academics. Somehow he managed to graduate from Fresno State and is playing for Seton Hall this season while attending law school.

The NCAA doesn't even play by their own rules:

"NCAA’s rules, the constitution and bylaws require the NCAA to provide interested parties with certain, well-defined procedural protections, including rights of appeal. The constitution and bylaws are expressly intended to benefit not only the member institutions, but also their staff, students, and other individuals affected by conduct subject to potential NCAA oversight and sanctions." WELL-DEFINED PROCEDURAL PROTECTIONS? The NCAA won't even announce what is in question with Diallo much less well defined procedural protections. What did Diallo do or not do while attending his high school (which is fully accredited)? He graduated from a fully accredited high school. Is the issue concerned with his education in Mali? Diallo has acted in full faith with all concerned parties except for some unknown reason with the NCAA.

What if by some absolutely unknown issue, Lightfoot NCAA's eligibility is in question next year? Is Kansas responsible if Lightfoot committed any infractions during his senior year without notification? You seem quick to place blame fully on Kansas and HCBS. Why is that?

You should stop now Brett while you have any remaining credibility. I often enjoy your insights, sarcasm and well pointed barbs but I think you are completely off track here.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

And for the record, Diallo started high school at OSNA as a freshman:

Through its international program, Diallo began attending Our Savior New American School in Centereach, New York. He played with Chris Obekpa in his freshman season and, at first, was dominated by the fellow African big man. Diallo said, "I didn't know what I was doing. I couldn't make a point. [Obekpa] blocked me every time."[1]

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

The NCAA took the Cliff investigation as far as they could. It's kind of hard do investigations without the ability to subpoena people and make them cooperate. What reason did Cliff and his mom have to cooperate when there's no threat if penalty for not cooperating?

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

'What reason did Cliff and his mom have to cooperate when there's no threat if penalty for not cooperating?'

Of course there is a don't get to play. The NCAA isn't an org. for law enforcement so why would it need to subpoena anyone? Either provide the info or watch the games from the bench. Ask Diallo if their is or isn't a penalty.

Ryan Shelton 6 years, 9 months ago

But haven't there been other eligibility issues with Our Savior New American School? I'm not saying that Cheick's case was foreseeable, but it's not surprising. Actually no eligibility issue surprises me anymore. I guess it comes with the territory of being on top of the totem pole.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

Everyone except Diallo has been cleared.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

No one knew there would be ANY problems with his eligibility... But, I don't forsee any problems w/next year's class.

Suzi Marshall 6 years, 9 months ago

Reading between the lines, it certainly seems the question about if we are in an appeal phase might be on the money. Self is a fighter. I'm sure he will turn over every possible leaf to get his guy in the game.

Dee Shaw 6 years, 9 months ago

Right on Brett. You would think before giving a kid a full ride scholarship that he would be eligible. Someone hasn't done there homework.

Phil Leister 6 years, 9 months ago

Looks like someone else here probably never did "there" homework..

The NCAA Eligibility Center doesn't clear kids while they're in high school. There's no way of knowing for certain if a recruit isn't going to be eligible.

Jay Scott 6 years, 9 months ago

Brett, Dee and "there" ilk seem to think that Self should only recruit transfer students...

RJ King 6 years, 9 months ago

Jay was making fun of the incorrect use of the word "there" in Dee's post. It was funny, and appropriate. Some things are so obvious when we just read for information and enjoyment, rather than from attack mode.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

Seriously. What are you talking about???

The eligibility issue surfaced in the middle of July. Long after Cheick declared. What alternate course in recruiting the kid would you have taken to ensure Kansas had "...done there [sic] homework"?

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Absolutely on target Dee... We should completely stop signing and recruiting players in the spring unless they come with a pre-approved document from the NCAA.

Looking back, KU should have withdrawn all offers including those to Bragg, Vick and Colbey until they were vetted by a third party investigation which they will need to pay for. Sorry about the hanging preposition. I blame it on being lazy.

Dyrk Dugan 6 years, 9 months ago

Makes no sense. "There's a few moving parts....the NCAA has to follow policy on those parts...." What in the world can that possibly mean? Several other players have been deemed eligible from this school, what makes Chieck different? It's the first week of November; classes started at KU Aug. 24. You can't tell me they don't "know" he is eligible. Isn't the school accredited? This "policy" can't be a good string a player and a program along like this. You show me the sense of any of this; I mean the details; and then we may have an understanding. Until then, this is just utter folly.

John Randall 6 years, 9 months ago

There could hardly be a more blatant example of little men in positions they are not fit to occupy.

John Randall 6 years, 9 months ago

This situation from Diallo's commitment to KU through the (how many?) months has certainly served to expose one of the NCAA's dirtiest piles of laundry. At least one of their administrators is acting from clearly vindictive motives and getting away with it by sitting around with his opposable digit (or perhaps both) firmly entrenched in his anal orifice.

Only the higher authorities at NCAA can rectify this behavior.

Great example of the paradigm "To discover lack of character in an individual, we need only to give them a little power."

Robert Brock 6 years, 9 months ago

It is apparent that his transcript from three years at the NY Catholic school was short of the required cores for NCAA eligibility; now the search is on to find transcripts in Mali to fill in the blanks.

That was the risk. Other "blue bloods" wanted no part of it.

Tom Jones 6 years, 9 months ago

True. Who would call Kentucky a blue blood, after all?

Jay Scott 6 years, 9 months ago

Bobby.... 1) It's not a Catholic school. 2) Other kids from the same school were cleared this year 3) Virtually every school offered him a scholarship 4) Are there subjects you have some knowledge of that you could comment on?

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

Other people on other sites have dug around the OSNA website and it's appears their Algebra and Algebra II classes might be the problem because they don't meet standards.

Jay Scott 6 years, 9 months ago

What seems odd is that the State of New York Board of Education approves this school but the NCAA thinks they need to have their own opinion.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

I'd be interested in seeing a source if you have one. We'd all like to be more informed on the nature of the issue with Cheick's eligibility.

Jay Scott 6 years, 9 months ago

I was on the board of another Christian private school. The state (not NY admittedly) had requirements of us. I'm sure OSNA has similar.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

Information Im seeing says the Mali coursework is at issue.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

It's not Mali, it's OSNA coursework. I believe Self himself confirmed that earlier this week.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Three of the students from Our Savior New American took at least one of the same algebra classes. Only Kobe Eubanks (who was originally declared ineligible and is now eligible) spent three years of high school at Plantation Florida and one year at OSNA had completed both algebra classes from a different school. Apparently his Florida high school manipulated his grades.

How is it that of the four, only Diallo hasn't been cleared. Kentucky's Skal Labissiere has just recently been declared eligible although the state of Tennessee ruled him ineligible to play high school basketball his senior year.

Most of us can only speculate the reason, maybe one day the NCAA will finally make a ruling and give out the specifics.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

If the Mali coursework is the issue, then it's not the algebra course or any other course taken at OSNA.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Also..Wikipedia reports he started attending classes as OSNA as a freshman. I couldn't find another source for conformation.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

Eubanks issues were never because of OSNA, it was his previous school before OSNA submitting 3 different GPA's for Eubanks and why his family was suing that school.

Self's comments about yesterday really come across as KU being in the appeals process right now trying to get Diallo cleared.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

"Apparently his Florida high school manipulated his grades."

Not clear enough?

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Absolutely Joe. I can speculate but freely admit that I have no idea what is the problem.

Vernon Riggs 6 years, 9 months ago

Total of Five 2015 OSNA Student Athletes - One (Diallo) not cleared, Four (Wilson, Dillard, Eubanks, Yawke) cleared. Eubanks wasn't rule ineligible, ' Bama wouldn't let him enroll until he was cleared by NCAA, he just ran out of time at 'Bama. He is now looking at Baylor, Texas AM and Georgetown.

Humpy Helsel 6 years, 9 months ago

Where are the folks who ran that ticket scam? Are they out of prison? Let's get them over to Mali to get this transcript thing straitened out. Coach's filters aren't working so good. He ain't happy. And it doesn't sound good.

Gerry Butler 6 years, 9 months ago

No, I was way off the mark, it doesn't sound good at all. Up until last night I thought he would be eligible, now not so much. Sounds like has been stated by many, we are in the APPEAL PROCESS, and like coach said this could drag out forever if that's the case. Very disappointing so IF that indeed is truly the case then we just have to suck it up and play with what we got, which I believe if that being the case, Hunter has to be the starting 5, with plenty of action and playing time from Carlton, love that kids smile. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Steve Williams 6 years, 9 months ago

the ncaa is a cluster f$@k.. Such a horrible institution. Chieck cant play because he went to the same high school that cleared 3 other players, but Miami gets a slap on the wrist for boosters funding abortion and cocaine, and PSU gets off for good behavior after rampant child rape

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

A cluster***k! Haven't heard that much since leaving the USCG.

Allison Steen 6 years, 9 months ago

The people who say "Self shouldn't recruit kids who aren't going to be eligible." Do you even think before you talk? Or are you THAT stupid?

John Randall 6 years, 9 months ago

Allison, your two question answered:



John Boyle 6 years, 9 months ago

Actually look back to the recruiting sites prior to Chieck signing with KU. Several "experts" questioned if he would have issues with eligibility. Although you cannot guarantee that every recruit will be eligible, you could shy away from ones that you know have high probability of having issues with eligibility. Having said that, I like Chieck and hope he is cleared soon. Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

Brett McCabe 6 years, 9 months ago

Too much common sense in this post. This is no place for that kind of thinking.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

I checked all Rivals stories on CD by headline going back to 2012 (in the ballpark of 125), and there is not a hint that there were concerns about eligibility issues. It seems odd that Rivals would not do a story about it, but other less-reputable sites have. Yet Im open to the idea that what youre saying is true if you can be of assistance. But aside from the fact that cited sources would be helpful to your point, there is still the matter of how a coaching staff should respond to isolated, scant concerns about his eligibility...even if they exist. Its not clear that they were even aware of any concerns by said recruiting sites. If such information is out there, it was not widely reported evidently.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

Jerry Meyer at 24/7 was the one who mentioned eligibility issues about 2 weeks before Diallo committed.

Allison Steen 6 years, 9 months ago

"Actually" I never read that ANYWHERE while I was obsessing over Cheick (check your spelling ;) ) committing to KU for two months. So maybe SOMEONE said SOMETHING but it was not talked about much and if it was apparently I was checking the wrong sites.

RJ King 6 years, 9 months ago

Can you provide a link? I'd love to read what was going on. Not being sarcastic, just really would like to see what we missed.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

He can't and won't respond is my bet.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

And yet 20 schools including Kentucky, Texas, Connecticut, Vanderbilt i.e. offered Diallo scholarships.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

Agreed, Allison. The coaching staff at Kansas lacks the ability to see the future, and because of that some commenters' dander is raised.

Michael Lorraine 6 years, 9 months ago

Even if he is cleared to play, does that guarantee they won't reverse their decision at a later date? Wasn't there a player a few years back on some other team whose academic eligibility was withdrawn after the season was over?

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

The famous case of Derrick Rose's retroactively being declared ineligible by the NCAA Clearinghouse. After they had cleared him months earlier...

Michael Lorraine 6 years, 9 months ago

Seems risky. Would be painful to vacate an entire season. Especially if that season was a very successful one.

Forrest Ranjer 6 years, 9 months ago

Self's "nature of the business" comment says it all.

Ben Kane 6 years, 9 months ago

kind of proves it's a business and these kids shouldn't be treated as true 'amateurs' anyway.

Clarence Haynes 6 years, 9 months ago

NCAA is just plain outright irresponsible for taking the time that it does to review this situation. Obviously it does not operate on the basis of a business model as these clowns would've been shown the door a long time ago. Disappointing.

Jim Stauffer 6 years, 9 months ago

It seems clear to me KU is going thru an appeals process. Diallo apparently was first ruled ineligible and KU is trying to get an ruling in their favor.

I doubt it is likely. So what we have is a kid who probably has an ACT in the upper third of all students in the country and has proven to be an excellent student being denied entrance into the University because the NCAA does not like the people he received his education from.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

It's not intuitive that Diallo has been ruled ineligible, even in light of Self's recent comments. The large middle ground of still being in the information-gathering phase could be the reason he's not been cleared. Im with you though. I hate the process and the NCAAs feeling that they have authority over this. How they attempt to have jurisdiction over high schools would be akin to the NBA's doing the same thing on another issue with the NCAA. "You cant play in the NBA if your college ___"....

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

It seems to be the case that the Clearinghouse is still looking into Diallo's records in Mali. If that is so, then a ruling about his eligibility has not been made.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Where did you get information that Diallo was first ruled ineligible Jim? Sounds like something someone with a predetermined conclusion would come up with unless of course you can find a single source of information to back up that statement.

Your second comment is much more on target. I'm not sure if the NCAA has a beef with Diallo, OSNA, Kansas, HCBS i.e. but yeah, something isn't kosher.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

Bill Self was directly asked if Diallo's case was in appeals this week and Self said no comment instead of no. Now why would Self say no comment instead of no to that question if this wasn't in the appeals process?

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Why hasn't ANY source stated that Diallo has been ruled ineligible? Seems like someone would want to break that story. The NCAA isn't exactly discreet.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

"Diallo, the top player in KU’s 2015 recruiting class, hasn't been cleared by the NCAA following a review of his high school, Our Savior New American in Centereach, N.Y. The 6-foot-9 forward remains one of the few players nationally who has not been deemed - eligible or ineligible - by the NCAA."

Jaston Archie 6 years, 9 months ago

The NCAA process is longer than the guy will even be in school, my goodness. Whatever classes he took or didn't take, he's a one and done player, stop being holier than thou and let the kid play. Crap like this is an injustice to players who should be able to just go to the league out of high school.

Jay Hawkinson 6 years, 9 months ago

I agree with the comments that it does sound like this thing is in the appeals stage. Self's no comment strongly suggests that. I'm struggling to figure out how everyone else from that school could be eligible while Diallo may not be.

One explanation is that he took different courses than his teammates. The obvious possibility is that he is using English as a Second Language courses for his English credits, and the NCAA isn't having it. That seems odd, since there have been so many international players that surely someone has been allowed to do this, plus Cheick speaks great English. But most of the other players from that school are Americans, so that would explain the difference.

The other possibility is that the information we have (that his GPA and test scores are fine, and it's a question of whether the coursework was rigorous enough) isn't quite right. Maybe his grades were bad his first year or two in the US while he was still learning English. This would explain why KU got the transcripts from Mali. They are trying to show that he had extenuating circumstances, and that his grades were good when he was taking classes in a language that he spoke.

Kenneth Johnson 6 years, 9 months ago

Apparently someone at the NCAA has a problem with KU (or perhaps just Coach Self).

Last year, they decided just before the Big 12 tournament that they wanted to investigate Cliff Alexander. Their process took so long that Alexander didn't get to play during the league tourney or the NCAA tournament. It should be noted that they didn;t ever find anything wrong with his credentials or recruiting.

Now this year, they decided to invesitgate Diallo, even though the other recruited players on his high school team have been cleared.

I suggest that someone needs to investigate the NCAA, to find out why they are trying so hard to make things difficult for the Jayhawks.

Ken Johnson (KU, MS '70) - Author of Kansas University Basketball Legends, and More University of Kansas Basketball Legends, published by The History Press in 2013 and 2014.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 9 months ago

The NCAA didn't know about the loan until a newspaper in Peoria, Ill. blew the whistle. Peoria also happens to be where Jerrance Howard's marijuana arrest occurred. I'd say it's more likely Howard ticked off a reporter there who then dug around for anything he could find and found something big.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

His eligibility would still be in question if he stayed at KU.

Kent Richardson 6 years, 9 months ago

Okay, great. I don't sound likely he will be cleared to play this season. Let's go forward based on that assumption.

Our strength is supposed to be our stable of guards. How good are they, really? They are good but not yet great. We are betting on the come there.

We have Perry and he brings scoring and rebounding from the 4.

Our ability to win another conference title and/or run deeper into the tourney will be determined by our bigs. With Hunter and Carlton we are betting on the come.

With 4 seniors and 4 juniors we still are guessing, pretty much.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Betting on the come? Think I'll shy away any comments on that subject

Brett McCabe 6 years, 9 months ago

Victim central here today.

Schools have a number of tools available to try and pre-determine whether a kid will be eligible or not. I'm a little surprised that people on this site aren't aware of that fact. Who could have possibly foreseen that this situation might occur? Pretty much anyone with a compliance division in their Athletic Departments.

I'm not hating on Diallo, though Self's whining is a little too much, I hope that the kid gets cleared and gets to pursue his dream.

But for me, I'm getting a little tired of the drama and distraction that surrounds the basketball team (Coach Howard, Cliff, Naadir, Diallo...). The operation could use some clean-up.

Jay Scott 6 years, 9 months ago

A weak effort to blame others for you lack of understanding. Diallo wasn't on anyone's radar as an academic risk. He's passed college courses already. Perhaps it's not a good idea for you to express your thoughts publicly....

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

I'm sure. Because every person that you mentioned (Howard, Cliff, Naadir, Diallo) did not have any issues that could be known about prior to coming to Kansas. If you know otherwise, please share. Specifically, please tell us how any of the "number of tools available" would have raised red flags in any of the four's situations at Kansas.

And what are these "tools"?

Brett McCabe 6 years, 9 months ago

They are separate thoughts, trolling Joe, you don't get to combine them for your own lazy convenience.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

It's not laziness to ask someone who has information to provide it. If you are unwilling, that is suggestive of not having such information.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

Do NOT combine THOUGHTS Joe. You're not allowing the 'slower' commentators to keep up. Maybe a ban on words with more than two syllables as well...

Bill Kackley 6 years, 9 months ago

And I am getting very tired of Brett McCabe's negativity towards coach Self. Did he not recruit a relative of yours so you are p--sed?

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

I'm convinced even beyond what future objections he may express that he doesn't really mean what he often says, and that angering people is his ultimate priority. Consider this:

"Matt, I'll admit that I was not as focused during this game...because I spent a good amount of time trying to pi off all the Sooner fans surrounding me with witty quips (known on this board as "trolling")..." --Brett McCabe, from comment history

So he admits to trolling, he falsely accuses others of it, and he expresses that upsetting people is more important to him than even watching the game. Having the expectation of a discourse that proceeds rationally is obviously out of the question, but more importantly it needn't be like this. I've seen him make salient points quite often on this board on many topics, but by his own words he wishes to make a spectacle of himself. If he could just show a bit of the maturity that often marks his posts Im sure his perspectives would be more greatly considered. But in the meantime (and I admit I have a lot of personal work to do on this myself), we need to stop isolating people for negative remarks. Like Rodney and even Brett himself.

Glen Miller 6 years, 9 months ago

I want to know how Kentucky's Labiseere or however you spell his name has already been cleared, when it was thought that he was a shoe in to sit at least one semester. Yet, we still have no ruling on Diallo. It seems like the NCAA waits until the last minute on any and all of our guys that are borderline, while they clear everyone else first. I just don't understand how you can make a school and a kid wait up until the 11th hour of the season, year in and year out.

Joe Ross 6 years, 9 months ago

Bilas has it right. This is not about Diallo. Its not about Kansas. Its about the NCAA.

Doug Cramer 6 years, 9 months ago

Self has always been patient and played nice with the NCAA in the past in these situations. One example was Josh Selby.

I really don't think the NCAA wants to cross that line causing Self to come unglued. I'm not talking about emotional rage or anything like that. I'm talking about Self's political weight that he has in his arsenal.

Get the feeling that it's getting to the point to where the NCAA better make a decision one way or the other. If he can't play...fine...we got Mickelson. If he can play...even better. Just make a decision !

Gerry Butler 6 years, 9 months ago

Appreciate the reference Carter. I know there are a lot of Bilas haters, BUT he brings up a pretty dam good point. END OF STORY

Kris Nelson 6 years, 9 months ago

If the NCAA is supposed to be FOR the "student-athlete" then why are they being the antagonist in these scenarios? Shouldn't they be doing to research into recruit's backgrounds to find out if they've taken money improperly or been passed through a school improperly? Why should it be up to the program to come up with answers to questions they haven't yet been asked? Diallo is a special case because he came from very far away where educational standards may not be what the NCAA expects from institutions in the United States and he attended a place where there have been some suspect practices. In all fairness to the prospective student-athlete, why not look at his track record since he began at the school? If he's capable of doing the course work and all of his professors sign off on his ability to be a competent student then the only thing holding him back from being an "athlete" is a haughtier than thou organization that employs people who hold grudges and have personal vendettas called the N-C-Double-A.

Marius Rowlanski 6 years, 9 months ago

"Landen was nicked up, that's why he didn't play. He turned his ankle pretty severely yesterday but wanted to play tonight," Self said. ...


Rob Bedford III 6 years, 9 months ago

Diallo will end up one of the most talked about Jayhawks to never play a game.

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