Tuesday, November 26, 2013

Charlie Weis quiet on QB

Kansas quarterbacks Montell Cozart, left, and Jake Heaps warm up prior to kickoff against Oklahoma State on Saturday, Nov. 9, 2013 at Boone Pickens Stadium in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Kansas quarterbacks Montell Cozart, left, and Jake Heaps warm up prior to kickoff against Oklahoma State on Saturday, Nov. 9, 2013 at Boone Pickens Stadium in Stillwater, Oklahoma.



Kansas quarterbacks Montell Cozart, left, and Jake Heaps warm up prior to kickoff against Oklahoma State on Saturday, Nov. 9, 2013 at Boone Pickens Stadium in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

It’s back to the drawing board for Kansas University’s football team as it prepares for Saturday’s 11 a.m. season finale against Kansas State at Memorial Stadium.

After starting junior quarterback Jake Heaps during the season’s first nine games and true freshman Montell Cozart for the past two, KU coach Charlie Weis once again is keeping the identity of his starter a secret this week, as the Jayhawks (3-8 overall, 1-7 Big 12) look to end the season on a high note against the in-state rival Wildcats.

“I would not say one word,” Weis said on Monday’s Big 12 coaches teleconference. “I would not say who the quarterback (will be). Not a chance.”

Both Heaps and Cozart played during last week’s 34-0 loss at Iowa State, and although neither player could find a way to produce points, each sprinkled a few good moments into an otherwise miserable night.

Cozart ran for 44 yards on 12 carries, including a long of 21 yards that nearly went the distance. In the six games in which he has appeared, the Bishop Miege graduate has proven to be much more effective as a runner than a passer, both in terms of yardage totals and the impact he has on the offense even when he does not keep it and take off.

Heaps entered the Iowa State game with 5:56 to play in the third quarter and looked as accurate as he had been all season. His final numbers (7-of-19 passing for 72 yards) did not reflect that, however, because the Kansas wide receivers dropped half of Heaps’ incompletions.

Saturday’s setback against the Cyclones zapped a lot of the momentum gained from knocking off West Virginia a week earlier, but the Jayhawks believe finishing strong and upsetting the Wildcats, who entered the week as 17-point favorites, would be enough to paint the 2013 season as a step in the right direction. Because of that, Weis began looking to the Sunflower Showdown long before the final horn sounded in Ames, Iowa.

“You don’t wait until after the game to start addressing what needs to be different,” Weis said. “If you wait until the next day at the quarterback position, I think you waited a day too long. (So) during the (Iowa State) game, in the third quarter and the fourth quarter, I had conversations to address issues that happened in the game and how you go about fixing them going forward.”

While that was the focus with the two guys who play the game’s most important position late in the loss to ISU, Weis turned his attention to the entire team as soon as time ran out.

“Saturday night after the game, I ripped into them as bad as you can be ripped into,” Weis said. “Sunday, we moved on to Kansas State.”


Craig Carr 8 years, 10 months ago

Blah blah blah, tree falling in the forest

Doug Cramer 8 years, 10 months ago

Big bad Charlie has to let the world know that he. "Ripped into them".

Probably too late Charlie. I wonder if anyone ripped into Charlie for not developing a team that plays disciplined SMART football. You can bet that K-State will.

Terry N Tom Denner 8 years, 10 months ago

Try not to blame the team for they will only play as well as they are coached to do so. Blame the coaching staff. Just for chit and giggles they should have packed different cleats knowing it would be snow and cold as hell in Iowa. KU has the team but not the right staff to coach them.

Doug Merrill 8 years, 10 months ago

We so often see comments that globalize the problems to the entire team and the coach. I think it is worth remembering as you look back early in the season and in several other games through the season, we could easily be battling for the sixth or even seventh win this weekend if we had had 2 receivers who were able to hold onto the ball. I have never seen a crew drop balls like this one, every single one of them. We have had defensive breakdowns, but they were not the reason for 3 of our losses. We have had offensive line weakness, but they were not the reason for 3 of our losses. We have a young team with not a great talent pool (yet) at all positions, but our Coach is not the problem: we don't have two guys who are dependable that when the ball comes to them, they catch it.

Robert Brown 8 years, 10 months ago

Maybe but I think your analysis is wishful thinking. Unlike last year, where an argument could be made for KU to have won 2-3 more games (Rice, UT, Tech, NIU), we did not have many games like that this year. We had a 4th quarter lead at Rice, but by the 4th quarter of all of our conference games this year, it was obvious we were not going to win. Maybe you could argue that the TCU game was in doubt in the 4th quarter.

I saw as many poorly thrown passes as dropped passes. I think people who say that progress has been made this year are kidding themselves.

David Kemp 8 years, 10 months ago

I would agree. Offense is putrid at best going the wrong direction with better skilled players but 3 new staters in o line. In this day and age should be able to find a capable line out there. Next year is looking even worse without multiple starters coming from freshmen or juco ranks.

Jim Jackson 8 years, 10 months ago

Do you know how many JUCO guys are playing in the NFL? There are numerous on every team. We need to go that route the next few years if we want to succeed

Savion Havon 8 years, 10 months ago

Robert the difference between last year and this year is once Crist layed the duck we changed to Cummings and got after folks playing smash mouth football in HCCW coaching genius the Texas and Tech games were won then we stared running options to the short side of the field. This spring he hands the keys to Heaps stating the whole time he's the guy. Whole time the guy is 50%passing and runs like there stocks in his pants. His mobility is the reason he left BYU We jump over the qb with big 12 experience the one who had us in the games last year and go to a freshman who's out there running scared. Then the now third string qb is playin tailback because of injuries. Why not put ya best 11 out there and let the cards fall where they may

Robert Brown 8 years, 10 months ago

I think you are saying we have a coaching problem. Weis is supposed to be a QB guru and he hasn't figure out what is effective in the college game. He offense at Florida was not very good.

Savion Havon 8 years, 10 months ago

Yes sir and not just very good one of the worse in Florida history with known proven game breakers Demps and Rainey. Year he leaves they are top five

Robert Brown 8 years, 10 months ago

In this picture, Heaps sort of looks like Drew Brees.

Lance Cheney 8 years, 10 months ago

Terry, he said he LOOKS like Drew Brees. I actually thought the same thing when I looked at it. He looks like him in the face in the picture, and even the throwing form is the same. It's pretty hard to compare how 2 players PLAY, just by looking at a picture of one player during warmups.

Jim Jackson 8 years, 10 months ago

I wouldn't fire Grunhard; we just need better talent.

David Kemp 8 years, 10 months ago

Coming back at you, WHEN are they going to get the talent. How many more years must we endure this not even mediocre play. And if you look this bad talent is not coming here.

Brandon Mahon 8 years, 10 months ago

Powlus and Ianello were major parts in recruiting last year, they did a decent job bringing in some good JUCO guys that we can expect to help next year once they get off redshirts and have had a full year. But they should NOT be coaching their positions. Weis needs to look in the mirror and see the writing on the wall. He will not be here the full 5 years if things dont get turned around. The good thing about assistant jobs the contracts are usually only 2 years. Get those two out think about Grunhard, but get those two out and get some quality talent in there. Weis should see that they have not done they job he brought them here to do, and it is making him look bad. We had QB issues last year and this year, and Crist got signed by an NFL team. We had receiver issues last year and maybe even worse this year except the we have two guys 3 guys catch a TD. Yet two are transfers and one was our best receiver last year. I am really hoping Weis and Zenger can pull off something this off season get a good OC in here and a couple good assistants. Everyone knows Weis wont be here for 5-10 years maybe pull the coach in waiting job as a stipulation in a contract only if the guy proves himself.

Jim Jackson 8 years, 10 months ago

I agree, but the conundrum we are faced with is that Ianello is recruiting and in good position with a lot of recruits right now. How can we fire him?

Great players make great coaches; does anyone think Ed Orgeron could take over KU like he did for Kiffin @ USC and go 6-1 (or whatever their record has been since he took over)?

No chance. However, his roster is loaded with 4 & 5 star players.

Brandon Mahon 8 years, 10 months ago

I dont think they will. Harwell only has one year of eligibility and Millweard came here because he saw and opportunity to be a star. We are going to have a WIDE OPEN QB challenge this off season, because this coming season is the show us what you are made of season for Weis. He is going to be searching for any form of magic he can and hey maybe Millweard will be the next great QB he will have 4 years and he is more mobile than Heaps, but probably a better passer than Cozart has shown. Also Harwell will be the straight up #1 option next season, will looks of Turzilli, Coleman and McCay following.

Mark Lindrud 8 years, 10 months ago

Ive thought about that. Weis keeps playing musical quarterbacks and nothing has improved. Cozart is athletic, but can't hit the broad side of a barn. it needs to be an open QB battle. Also, we need more recievers and o linemen badly. At this point I don't believe Harrell will be an upgrade because no one else Weis has brought in has. Im at the point I'll believe it when I see it with the offense.

Brandon Mahon 8 years, 10 months ago

Respectfully decline that, Harwell had 1400 yards receiving 2 years ago, almost 900 last year. Seasons of 8,9,6 touchdowns. I think i call that an upgrade

Aaron Paisley 8 years, 10 months ago

I agree, Harrell (whoever he is) will not likely be an upgrade because I don't think he plays for KU. Nick Harwell on the other hand will be an upgrade because he has an actual body of work to judge from at the D1 level.

Terry N Tom Denner 8 years, 10 months ago

Sad but the Hawks will get humiliated again in front of a so so crowd on Saturday. Charlie and company will be throwing excuses about every little thing that went wrong this year. The BLAME starts with the coaching staff PERIOD !!! Hate that damn 3-4 defense !! If u do not have a monster NT and two huge and fast DT's u have no chance in hell stopping the run or pass game. Get rid of that worthless Cowboy has been defensive coach and find someone who knows what the heck he is doing. Oh the heck with it, get rid of all of them !!!

Brandon Mahon 8 years, 10 months ago

I disagree with you on that one. Campo has done a good job and statistically our defense has done things it hasnt done for 3 years now. We are sacking the QB more, we have more interceptions. Our defense has kept us in games as well as they could. I watch every game and there are only a few games where we were completely out of it. When the defense is out there for 30+ minutes and the offense is going 3 and out every series it wears on the defense, the problem is in the offense.

Lucas Town 8 years, 10 months ago

I wonder if Charlie will buy out the tickets for all of the students for this years Senior Day game? I would venture to say that the stadium will be about 30-40% purple on Saturday. K-State's D is better than ISU's and we won't be able to run the able like OU did against K-State. It doesn’t matter who starts at QB for KU, Snyder will make sure this game isn’t even close.

But here is my question for the off season...Do we have a legitimate QB controversey on our hands for next season? Who will be the starting QB for KU when we open the 2014 season? Heaps? Cozart? Millweard? Other?

Here is a better question…Who will that QB be throwing to? Harwell is unproven in the Big 12, but his name will be in the mix.

Brandon Mahon 8 years, 10 months ago

We will have 5 quarterbacks on the roster that have been in the program for at least a year. Darling, Cozart, Millweard, Cummings, Heaps. My best bets are Millweard, Heaps or Cozart. Highest rated coming out of HS (that shouldnt matter) and most experience.

Matt Glassman 8 years, 10 months ago

…because hey, what the hell does it matter, we're going to get bombed by 50 anyway. Amirite...?

kellerman411 8 years, 10 months ago

Snyder will throw down his usual massacre against an inferior opponent. He gets blasted by elite teams and has to take it out on teams he is already up 50 on. Mark my words, this will be a 50 point game going into the 4th quarter and Snyder will have the first team out there til the final seconds off.

People see a little old man with white hair and think he's sweet. Bill Snyder is a terrible sport. If you don't agree with that, you didn't watch K-State football in the late 90s. He used to beat teams by 70 or 80 points and not even flinch. I hope he is around to see his Wildcats take some losses like that.

Lucas Town 8 years, 10 months ago

That was probably back when margin of victory was factored into the BCS rankings. Now that that is gone I think he only shows enough to win. I think the best time for KU to play K-State would be the first game of the year. They seem to play very poorly then, maybe then we could win a few.

Robert Brown 8 years, 10 months ago

I can't remember on time when KSU scored 80 points let alone won by that many.

Robert Brown 8 years, 10 months ago

I think most KU fans have huge respect for Snyder because it should be more difficult to win at K-State than at KU but he continues to win with inferior talent on paper. What he does is not easy as Weis has found out.

Jim Jackson 8 years, 10 months ago

LOL our guys better come prepared.

Anyone have any knowledge of recruits we are closing in on?


Andy Tweedy 8 years, 10 months ago

I REALLY wish the choice of QB had any chance of mattering!!!

Jordan Powell 8 years, 10 months ago

As soon as Crist and Heaps transered they were the lock to start the next two seasons, no real competition. That was a mistake. Cozart can throw a lot better than Charlie is willing to find out which is also a mistake.

David Kemp 8 years, 10 months ago

Ok let's break it down: QB has no wheels can throw, QB has wheels can't throw, o line can't block, receivers can't catch, leaves Sims to do it by himself( not working) Dline no push, linebackers make 90% of tackles! secondary's best defense is pass interference. Finally, our walk on kicker , supposed to be an upgrade, is benched in favor of same lousy kicker who made us look comical last yr running fake fgs.

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