Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Freshman Frankamp brings hot shot to KU

Kansas guard Conner Frankamp smiles while talking with teammate Tyler Self on the bench prior to a scrimmage on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, at the Horejsi Center.

Kansas guard Conner Frankamp smiles while talking with teammate Tyler Self on the bench prior to a scrimmage on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, at the Horejsi Center.


Last December, after one of his amazing shooting displays, Wichita North senior/future Kansas University combo guard Conner Frankamp heard himself glowingly referred to as, “The White Mamba.”

Conner Frankamp says he made 400 of 410 shots on his best day

Kansas freshman Conner Frankamp says he made 400 of 410 shots on his best shooting workout day with his father, Marty. Frankamp talked to reporters on Monday, June 17, 2013. File video, shot by Nick Krug, is from a <a href="">Frankamp shooting workout in September of 2012</a>.

“Some reporter on the news said something about it. It kind of went on from there. Everybody picked it up from there,” said Frankamp, a deadly shooter who doesn’t mind being nicknamed after one of the world’s most venomous snakes.

“It’s all right,” he added of the moniker, “because I like Kobe (Bryant) a lot and he’s the ‘Black Mamba.’ It works out pretty well.”

If anybody in Kansas deserves a ‘Mamba’ moniker it has to be the 6-foot, 160-pound Frankamp, who, as he proved in last Wednesday’s Bill Self campers game, can strike quickly. He iced four threes in as many tries, at least two from NBA range.

“In high school they played a lot of defense on me, so they had guys on me a lot. I had to learn to shoot from farther distances,” Frankamp said Monday at Self’s camp. “I kind of adapted to that, worked on that and practiced everything, getting used to defense and everything.”

Frankamp’s work ethic showed in his high school feats.

A two-time all-state selection, who was often double teamed, Frankamp averaged 31.1 points, 3.8 assists, 3.5 rebounds and 2.5 steals a game his senior season for 20-3 North. He made 93 three-pointers, shot 49.2 percent from three-point range and 91.7 percent from the free-throw line.

Frankamp had 14 games of 31 or more points and five of 40 or more. The all-time leading scorer in Wichita City League history, Frankamp broke the 33-year-old city league single-game scoring mark by potting 52 points as a sophomore against Northwest. In that game, he was 18-of-38 shooting (he made eight threes and was 8-of-8 from the line).

“Probably winning the three-point contest (at 2013 Final Four) in Atlanta,” Frankamp said, asked which of his three-point displays proved most memorable. “That was pretty cool. There were some really good shooters there and everything. I felt there was good competition. I shot pretty well, so that helped.”

Frankamp hit 22 of 25 three-pointers in the final round to defeat current KU teammate Brannen Greene, UCLA’s Bryce Alford, Michigan’s Zak Irvin, Memphis’ Nick King and others at the American Family Insurance three-point championship last April.

“In a competition like that, for sure,” Frankamp said, asked if it was the most accurate he’s ever been.

Frankamp, who despite being leading scorer for USA Basketball’s Under-17 national team that won gold at the FIBA world championships two summers ago, was snubbed by the McDonald’s All-America game committee last spring.’s No. 34-rated player in the Class of 2013 admitted that oversight had him fired up for the competition in Atlanta on ESPN.

“That for sure motivated me a lot. I didn’t get too down on myself about it. I had to keep moving on and work harder,” he said.

His workouts with his rebounder — dad Marty — are legendary in Wichita.

“I’ve made 400 out of 410 (shots) in one workout. That was my best workout ever,” Frankamp said. “We shoot all different types of shots. That includes free throws and everything, too. I’ve had some others pretty close to that. We just (called it a) fairly good shooting day and moved on.”

Now in summer school at KU, Frankamp is working at both shooting guard and point guard as he vies for minutes his freshman season.

“For sure,” he said, asked if he can play on the ball. “I feel I’m a good passer as well. I just try to work on everything. Wherever coach needs me.”

He said he needs to work on ... “defense, lateral quickness and staying in front of quick guards. There are some quick guards in the Big 12 ... defense for sure.”

Like all freshmen, Frankamp figures to benefit from KU’s weight program, directed by Andrea Hudy.

“Last week we had a really tough workout on Monday. Today’s Monday, too. I’m kind of nervous about today. I think it’ll be all right,” Frankamp said with a smile on Monday. “I’ve had some pretty tough workouts with my trainer over the past four years (his dad’s former teammate at Coffeyville Community College, Roy Birch). The one last Monday was probably the toughest I’ve had for my entire life, actually.”

Frankamp, who is roommate of KU transfer Hunter Mickelson, said he’s been impressed with fellow members of his freshman class.

“Wayne Selden is playing really well. He’s so physically strong for such a young kid. Brannen Greene has been playing really well, too, and shooting the ball well,” Frankamp said. “Pretty much everybody has impressed me. Frank Mason is so quick, so fast. He gets to the lane pretty much whenever he wants. It’s nice having him kick it out to me and Brannen for an open shot. He’s helped a lot.”

KU coach Self is certainly happy the Jayhawks beat out Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas, UCLA, Boston College, Wichita State and others for Frankamp, who committed in July of 2011.

“Hey ... the dude can make shots,” Self said. “That’s one thing we’ve got to free his mind to be able to do that. With USA Basketball, he did everything. He played on the ball, off the ball and was leading scorer on the team that had Jabari Parker (No. 4-ranked player headed to Duke) and guys like that. He’s a good scorer. Other players enjoy playing with him and I absolutely love watching him play. He’s a stud.”

Alexander visit coming: Cliff Alexander, a 6-8, 240-pound senior-to-be from Chicago’s Curie High School, will make an unofficial recruiting visit to KU on Thursday, reports. Kentucky and Michigan State have been believed to be leaders for the No. 5-ranked Alexander.

“No one is on top. I’m open to everybody. I’m open to all of the schools that are recruiting me,” Alexander told, citing a close relationship with KU assistant Jerrance Howard.


MinnesotaJay 9 years, 3 months ago

400 out of 410? 22 out of 25? Good grief! I guess I don't know much, but it seems like the winning strategy would be to get him open, then get him the ball. Your team is four offensive rebounders (just in case) and Frankamp. Absent turnovers, you should average around 2.7 points per possession!

hawk316 9 years, 3 months ago

I'm thinking this sharpshooter is going to hit a lot of big shots for KU during the next few years. I'm very happy that he's a jayhawk.

thmdmph 9 years, 3 months ago

I really like Frankamp. He IS a stud. His stroke may not be pure like Ben, but he's arguably even more deadly. Moreover, he can drive and pull up and knock it down. Ben is predominantly money only when he catches & shoot, or drive in for a dunk. When he tries to creates his own shots, it's not as pretty. The White Mamba on the other hand is way underrated outside of Midwest.

Martin Shupert 9 years, 3 months ago

He might not shoot quite that well if someone guards him though. :) Still... I can't wait to see the kid light the place up.

David Hodges 9 years, 3 months ago

I think you missed this part of the article... "A two-time all-state selection, who was often double teamed, Frankamp averaged 31.1 points, 3.8 assists, 3.5 rebounds and 2.5 steals a game his senior season for 20-3 North."

Jayhawk1410 9 years, 3 months ago

There were games when he was tripled team and he made the defenders look stupid.

Dan Pawlowski 9 years, 3 months ago

I think you also missed this,“In high school they played a lot of defense on me, so they had guys on me a lot. I had to learn to shoot from farther distances,” Frankamp said Monday at Self’s camp. “I kind of adapted to that, worked on that and practiced everything, getting used to defense and everything.”

Dirk Medema 9 years, 3 months ago

There will only be 2 or 3, and when you're shooting for the best, they will play regardless. A big (Okafor or Alexander?), PG (Jones or Mudiay?), and possibly a wing (Vaughn or Winslow?) would do nicely.

Kevin Huffman 9 years, 3 months ago

We're not getting Jones or Mudiay.

I'd say be SERIOUS about getting Josh Perkins. Ranked low enough at No. 24 that he could not balk at playing off the bench his freshman year but then could start his next 2-3 years potentially.

Often regarded as the best passer in the Class w/ somewhat decent size - i.e., 6'3, 185.

wrwlumpy 9 years, 3 months ago

From Coach Howard's tweet. Pride and determination on each one's face. Wiggins with his new team after practice with former point, A. Miles.

Michael Luby 9 years, 3 months ago

That is cool!!! Man, it would be incredible to watch a practice with all those guys in a pick up game.

David Leathers 9 years, 3 months ago

Don't forget how Coach Howard captioned the photo either:


I'm assuming he's either referring to the difference between SMU and KU or the difference Wiggins makes just being on the court. That, coupled with the article you posted below (, I have a feeling this is going to be a special season.

David Leathers 9 years, 3 months ago

Whoops, sorry. I guess a hashtag before a comment blows it up.

thmdmph 9 years, 3 months ago

Those are faces of winners for years to come. Where's the White Mamba?

Scott MacWilliams 9 years, 3 months ago

Okay, so who is who here?

Is it: Wiggins, Black, Miles, __? Embiid, ___?

KGphoto 9 years, 3 months ago

Wigs, Black, Miles, Coach Howard, Embiid, Selden. Pretty much murderer’s row.

jaybate 9 years, 3 months ago

• Conner has amazed me with his recovery from his ankle Fracture; that's often a tough recovery and he worked through it like it was nothing!

• Self calling a freshman a stud is something too!

• Sliding at D1 speed appears Conner's get better path. Tyrel Reed, how about working with Conner. You mastered it.

• Conner, like Travis Releford before him, is one of those guys that make Self feel younger about his own hair issues. :-)

• Conner's glow on Mason's get-in-the-paint speed encourages me about Mason.

• Embiid Skills redux---yesterday JayHawkFanToo took issue with my remark that Self's quotes perhaps suggested Embiid might be farther along on skills than all KU bigs but Ellis. His was fair questioning. HEM responded he had noticed a lot of skills in Embiid videos as far back as last season, which I then recalled him noting back then. My only add here is to look at the skills Self referred to and ask: which bigs other than Ellis already possess all these skills?

Self's quoted: “From a raw skill set, he’s big, long, quick, athletic, can move his feet, he can shoot over both shoulders, jump hook, things like that. It’s unbelievable for a guy playing three years to have that skill set.” He also is a decent FT shooter, if I recall correctly.

Last season, Jamari lacked the jump hook and shooting over both shoulders. Landon seemed a.bit slow footed and lacked quickness.. Justin lacks the shooting. No one talks about Tarik being able to jump hook.

There are other big man skills like drop step, arm hooking, hedge defense, holding spots, screening, rebounding, and passing. Self says Embiid needs to get better and so we can infer he means these things. But all of KU's bigs need to get better at those things and they are not footers.

I'm not knocking our other bigs. I am just saying they too are early in development, excepting Tarik, who I don't know much about, and Justin, who seems unable to harness his athleticism so far.

NebraskaJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Ha! I noticed the hair too, Jaybate. Dude is going to be bald before he leaves KU.

DoctorTK 9 years, 3 months ago

As a specialist dealing with people's hair loss day in and day out, I have seen many young men's self confidence destroyed by this unfortunately hereditary condition. I know neither Jaybate nor NebraskaJayhawk got any ill intention towards Conner or made any sly remarks. I only use this opportunity to plea for everyone to be kind to those suffering from hair loss. It is no laughing matter to many of them. A simple mentioning of their hair loss can be like a dagger through their heart.

One reason for all this hurt is the amount of misconceptions on male pattern hair loss and that most doctors do not know the best way to treat it. The most important truth he needs to know is that it can be a very treatable condition, especially at his young age. Many of my patients can attest to that fact.

I have just completed 29 hours of travel. 18 of which were in the air. My head is spinning and my ears are ringing. Time to say good night and keep my mouth shut.

jaybate 9 years, 3 months ago

"Doctor, doctor, tell me the news, I got a bad case of losin' you..."

You're being a tease, DocTK.

If you want to help Conner, and everyone else with high hair lines and thin hair, which is most of us sooner or later, and you know how to treat the problem, just tell us.

Just post exactly what we need to know about how to hold onto our hair and grow more. Don't say you know and then not tell us. This topic is nothing to withhold information about in order to get paid a fee for explaining the cure. :-)

Jack Wilson 9 years, 3 months ago

Yes, I agree with DoctorTX. You are being highly insensitive. Please stop with the hair loss, and bald jokes. It's really bullying, that's all. Men losing their hair should not be subjected to these taunts.

Now, on the other hand, a bald woman is nice ... nothin' like it. It should be a law.

Michael Luby 9 years, 3 months ago

I want this season to start RIGHT NOW!!!!! Man, I wish we could watch those guys play pick up games. That would be awesome!

thmdmph 9 years, 3 months ago

LuLu, Jayhawk Network should broadcast their pickup games on prime time. Unfortunately, living in Boston, it won't benefit me, but still would be very radical.

As for Naadir, I wonder if say this next year, he turns over too much. Is Self going to be able to play Mason or Frankamp over seniority? Scares me what happened at end of last year.

jaybate 9 years, 3 months ago

slayr flexing his insight muscles again.

jaybate 9 years, 3 months ago

If Self keeps landing 40% trey shootists like Conner, Greene, and White, plus recent dead eyes like Ben, Travis, Xavier, Tyrel, Brady, Sherron, Chalmers and Brandon, BIGMANU may have to change his alias to MAKESHOTU!

Really, it's been a stunning run of shootists.

Self's formula increasingly seems:

(Efficient bigs + great shootists + get-to-the-rim game) x DEFENSE^3 = .84 W&L

mattiesdad 9 years, 3 months ago


KemDooKU 9 years, 3 months ago

No worries on the hair - $35,000 and today's transplant technology he will have most of his hair back on top in no time - well 2 or 3 years max. -yes I know a little about it.

DoctorTK 9 years, 3 months ago

Someone young like him, there's no need to jump right into hair transplant. That's what hair transplant mills like Bosley want you to think. At his age, 1/10th of the cost you had mentioned would allow him to grow much of his own hair back.

jhox 9 years, 3 months ago

I thought I could shoot pretty well back in the day, when working out. But 400 out of 410...that's just freakin' insane.

jaybate 9 years, 3 months ago

Yes, I believe Conner counts as a shooting savant. :-)

Matt Spitzli 9 years, 3 months ago

"“Last week we had a really tough workout on Monday. Today’s Monday, too. I’m kind of nervous about today. I think it’ll be all right,” Frankamp said with a smile on Monday."

Thanks for clarifying that he said it on Monday. His being able to keep the days of the week straight is a good sign.

JayDocMD 9 years, 3 months ago

It seems Jerrance is paying early dividends. Not sure Cliff Alexander pays us a visit without Mr. Howard in his ear.

Jerry Rockhold 9 years, 3 months ago

I took my younger son to watch Frankamp play in an AAU tourney in KC his junior year. At 1st glance, he's a very unlikely looking ball player at around 6' 160. However, his handle was very good, had good hops & can dunk, and shot the ball well against very good AAU players. He has a very high BBQ & can not only shoot, but can get his own shot as well. He's a winner & a gamer & a true gym rat/coach's son. After the game, we talked to him & did our small part to welcome him to Jayhawk Nation. He took a couple of minutes to talk to my son & seemed like a very good, very unaffected kid. There were big-time coaches in the bleachers a few feet away, Bill Self, Coach K, Huggins, to name a few & he was focusing on talking to my son. Pretty impressive & cool for a 17yr. old.

No one can accurately predict exactly how his skills will transfer/translate to D-1 level, but he's played with & against the best in AAU & International ball & to this point has done well.

Welcome to the tradition that is KU basketball, Conner. RCJ, GO KU!!!

Cecil Connor 9 years, 3 months ago

I wonder if some of his teammates could make 400 of 410 layups.

Chris1955 9 years, 3 months ago

I'm not sure I could successfully get out of bed 400 out of 410 times!

Matthew Stephan 9 years, 3 months ago

The next few years may be some of KU's best 3 point shooting years in a while. Frankamp, Greene, Selden are all outstanding shooters. Andrew White was already a good 3 point shooter. I am sure that Andrew Wiggins can drain some 3s too. I think that is an edge that we will have against other teams.

thmdmph 9 years, 3 months ago

Because of this, Embiid, Ellis, Black should thrive offensively

KansasComet 9 years, 3 months ago

It will be hard keeping this young man on the bench this season. He can flat out play. He is one of a kind. He is not a Tyrel Reed type or a Kirk Hinrich type. No disrespect to any guards that we have had in the past. He has his own style. Those that have not seen this young man play, get ready for a treat. This is one loaded KU team. The great thing is we have other great shooters on this team as well. Imagine if Conner Frankamp gets going, Andrew White III gets going and Brannen Green gets going, all at the same time. What an impressive run that could be. We could go up 20 or comeback from double digits in no time. I am not predicting championships, because those combine luck and skill. We do have a chance to be really special on the inside and from the outside.

wrwlumpy 9 years, 3 months ago

He also reminds me of Boshee, Boshee had the quickest release of any KU tray shooter. Both are short and teen idols.

KGphoto 9 years, 3 months ago


He’s more like the Boschee Supreme Deluxe, version 5.0

The guy outplayed The World at the U17 championships. He is more than dialed in. He is laser guided. His experience alone puts him a light year ahead of Boschee. He would take Boschee for a ride in a one-on-one, a game of H.O.R.S.E, or a match of Tiddly Winks.

Height and White don’t make him compare with Boschee.

KGphoto 9 years, 3 months ago

By the way, I’m not knocking Boschee. I loved Boschee and realize he was a Micky D, and a highly sought after recruit. It’s just that, shooting wise, he was a one-trick-pony. He was a spot up 3pt. sniper. Conner has many intangibles that would allow him to lead a team, ala Jacque Vaughn, to go with his incredible marksmanship.

Ben Simonett 9 years, 3 months ago

This year is most likely going to feature alot of ball screen and perimeter action to put Wiggins in positions to utulize his natural ability. that being said, I'm actually more looking forward to the '14-15 season because I can see Self finally having the peices to go back to his bread and butter Hi-Lo system that won us the national championship.

The problem we've had the last few seasons is that a defense could pack the lane to counter the Hi-Lo without worrying much about the shooters they were leaving open on the perimeter. EJ and Releford were great, but between Frankamp, Greene, and White, we're now going to have 3 guards in our rotation who all can realistically shoot 40% from behind the arc. Defenses aren't going to be able to leave the perimeter to help inside.

Perry Ellis + Joel Embiid with no help defense inside or 40% 3 point shooting, pick your poison. That's going to be a very potent offense.

NebraskaJayhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

A lot of people are comparing his game to Jimmer Fredette. Wouldn't that be something..

Alex Resnik 9 years, 3 months ago

Self has assembled the kind of talent around Tharpe that he needs. He should only average around 9 pts a game next year. This is why Self got Tharpe so he can be a facilitator. I am very excited to see how he responds!! Should be positive!

Jack Wilson 9 years, 3 months ago

kD .. Tharpe's assist to turnover was 2.21 - 1.0 this past season. By contrast, EJ's was 1.45 - 1.0. So you can breathe a little easier. I think you'll get a guy whose ratio is well above 2:1, and who will score appx. 8-9 per game.

I do have a concern with Tharpe offensively getting "shot happy" .. kind of in line with the infamous Tyshawn quote a few seasons ago after a high scoring game ("I finally got mine."). Tharpe's mindset is key. Distributor/facilitator more than scorer -- and take the points that are given to him.

thmdmph 9 years, 3 months ago

Agreed. For past 2 years, Tharpe's downfall has been this ill advised quick pull-ups from downtown. Hopefully, another year wiser and much more talents around him, it won't even occur to him to do this anymore.

CaramelMacchMan 9 years, 3 months ago

Man oh man! I can not wait for this season.

Andrew Horigan 9 years, 3 months ago

I'm so ready to see these kids on the court. This season is going to be nuts. Also, unfortunately Brian Scalabrine (You guys remember the big white dude on the Celtics and the Bulls a few seasons ago that looked like he had no business on the court) was already given the "white mamba" nickname, but hopefully Frankamp will be more deserving of it.

bhol 9 years, 3 months ago

Thank you chicagojayhawkism. We got to nip this in the bud now. There can be only one White Mamba -- SCAL!!!

Bobby Burch 9 years, 3 months ago

The dude made 1 out of every two shots in his ENTIRE senior year, of which he was mostly doubled teamed. Good grief, Charlie Brown, that's impressive.

ParisHawk 9 years, 3 months ago

Of all the players, Conner is the one most likely to play less than I want him to. Is that a compliment or not?

I guess that means his offensive talent makes my mouth water, but can he step up to D1 level defense?

I like Selden as much, but I'm much more confident about his PT.

Too much talent, too many players to like, too much growing up to do too fast, not enough PT!

Why can't all problems be like this?

nuleafjhawk 9 years, 3 months ago

400 out of 410?

Well Conner, a little bit of hard work and you should be able to bring those numbers up.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 3 months ago

I seriously doubt most of us here would not be able to make 400 of 410 layups. Of course I couldn't count that high.

Lance Cheney 9 years, 3 months ago

You forgot to use your sarcasm font for the other readers.

Steve Gantz 9 years, 3 months ago

Connor's got to be the leader in most anticipated Jayhawk ever. It seems as if we've been reading about this kid since the Roy Williams era, didn't Roy offer him in Kindergarten? It sure will be a letdown if he just turns out to be another good 3 shooter like Reed, and not much else.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 3 months ago

Not unlike BigManU, maybe I'll change my ID to DeadEyeU!! :)

I am betting that there is none of us who could make 400 out of 410 layups standing two feet from the basket!!

Heck, I'm not sure I could make 400 out 410 dunks if I was standing on a ladder next to the hoop!!!!!

Tony Bandle 9 years, 3 months ago

PS Conner will be bald by the end of next season, much less his KU career!! :)

ku_foaf 9 years, 3 months ago

I think his age will be questioned more than any player since Greg Oden.

We all know he will not take the number of shots he did in HS. An amazing shooter. He does look fast, too. But as noted here, no defense, no real playing time. I am not saying that he cannot defend, I have no idea yet.

Maybe more hype, but he looks like a better shooter than Heinrich, Vaughn or Hawkins initially. Hard not to find it exciting.

Michael Luby 9 years, 3 months ago

KU should start selling tickets to the pick up games for like $15 a game. AFH would be sold out in record numbers and KU would make more $$$.

PhogPhanatic20 9 years, 3 months ago

I hope Conner goes with the shaved head look by his Sophomore year. That hair is beginning to look ridiculous. Plus, he IS the next Jeff Boschee for us.

Lash 9 years, 3 months ago

Before Conner is through no one will remember Boschee.......

RCJHTOTHEGRAVE 9 years, 3 months ago

I think Naadir will be a great leader. Remember that shot against ok st? That was clutch. I expect him to step up. I'm just happy this year well have an actual point guard.

Randy Bombardier 9 years, 3 months ago

Man this is going to be a great year. Who do you start? Great problem to have. I am looking forward to some great shooting and with Wiggins some great acrobatics on his way to the rim.

Jayhawk1410 9 years, 3 months ago

Once he gets stronger he will be by far one of the best 3-point specialist KU has ever had. IMO Kirk was the best of them all.

Does anyone have a clue about a starting lineup? I know Self will mix it up until he gets a good group of guys. I'm so excited for this year, so much potential. This should be a better freshman class then Chalmers, Rush, Wright.

Jayhawk1410 9 years, 3 months ago

Im thinking:

PG- Tharpe, Frankcamp, RS Mason SG-Seldan, Green. Franks SF-Wiggins, White, Green PF-Ellis, Traylor C-Black, Embiid

justanotherfan 9 years, 3 months ago

There's no need or reason to question Conner's offensive abilities. He can shoot and handle. He is an ELITE shooter from distance. That will take him far. I think he could go down as one of the all time great three point marksmen in collegiate history. He's just got that shooters ability, like a JJ Redick or Steph Curry.

My questions remain about his defensive abilities. His HS played quite a bit of zone, much of it to let him save his energy for offense, where he represented the majority of their scoring. I can't fault them for that. If you have a guy that's in permanent heat check mode, you do what you can to maximize those opportunities.

He rarely had to guard anyone that was college ball talent outside of AAU - again, I understand that you have to maximize the fact that you have a truly gifted shooter on your hands. But my question is how he will handle guarding bigger and stronger guys in college, particularly if he ends up playing off the ball to maximize his shooting skills? This is especially a concern for a guy that is slightly built. It's not like Conner is built like Michael Lee. I think his quickness will help him here, but still worry that he could get bullied by bigger guys.

I'm especially curious because there's a good chance he will spend most of his career playing with similarly sized guys (Naadir, Frank) and someone has to guard the opposing 2 guard. Frank is so small that i doubt he can handle 2 guards at the college level and we saw last year what bigger guys were able to do to Naadir. If Conner can't guard bigger guys, I don't know how you can play more than 2 of those three for any kind of minutes because you won't be able to play them together. That doesn't mean Conner will be the odd many out (Frank probably is this year), but it does make things interesting going forward.

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