Originally published November 6, 2011 at 10:21a.m., updated November 7, 2011 at 12:46a.m.

Missouri to SEC a done deal

University of Missouri Interim President Steve Owens, left, and Chancellor Brady Deaton leave a news conference following a meeting of the Board of Curators, Tuesday, Oct. 4, 2011, in St. Louis. Missouri will leave the Big 12 for the SEC.

University of Missouri Interim President Steve Owens, left, and Chancellor Brady Deaton leave a news conference following a meeting of the Board of Curators, Tuesday, Oct. 4, 2011, in St. Louis. Missouri will leave the Big 12 for the SEC.


Bye-bye Big 12, hello SEC.

After weeks of private flirtations and the college sports’ equivalent of prenuptial negotiations with their respective lawyers, Missouri and the Southeastern Conference took their mutual attraction public Sunday.

First the SEC released a statement welcoming Missouri as its newest member. Later there was a campus pep rally in Columbia, replete with a new SEC banner, the school’s marching band and exploding confetti.

“We are pleased, and we are proud to welcome you to the family of the Southeastern Conference,” SEC Commissioner Mike Slive told hundreds of students and alumni packed into the campus union. “We know that homecoming is a special tradition here at Missouri. So let me say to the entire Missouri nation, ‘Welcome to your new home.’”

Missouri will join the league effective July 1, 2012 by unanimous agreement of the SEC’s presidents and chancellors, including Bernie Machen of Florida, who joined Slive at Sunday’s announcement in Columbia.

Missouri will be leaving the Big 12, a conference it has been a part of since 1907, including its days as the Big Eight and earlier incarnations such as the Big Six.

The school could also face the end of annual athletic contests with neighboring Big 12 survivor Kansas, a rivalry with roots in the Civil War. The teams first met on the football field in 1891, the sport’s oldest traditional matchup west of the Mississippi River. Their college basketball battles also began in the 19th century.

The Big 12’s uncertain future drove the move, said Missouri Chancellor Brady Deaton, who until last month was the conference’s board chairman — and public face of the league’s fight for survival after losing Nebraska (Big Ten) and Colorado (Pac-12) last year and later Texas A&M;, which will join Missouri next year in a 14-team SEC.

The announcement came as no surprise after Missouri’s governing board gave Deaton the permission to change leagues in early October and then granted him broad authority two weeks later to negotiate directly with the SEC.

The delay was likely to due to concerns over the timing of Missouri’s departure as well as the amount of the financial penalty the school must pay the Big 12 for breaking its contract.

A confidential report provided to The Associated Press suggested the school could owe the Big 12 as much as $26 million, though both Nebraska and Colorado negotiated significantly lower exit fees than what they were legally obligated to return. Deaton said Missouri and the Big 12 have not determined amounts.


coolhand357 10 years, 6 months ago

Butt-legger, no one cares what you think.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

Your handle is wrong. It should be bootlicker, for all the feet of the SEC foes you're going to be kissing as your team is getting regularly slaughtered.

By the way, how was your experience the last time your tiggers made the Final Four?

nothingbutbasketball18 10 years, 6 months ago

Was there ever really a doubt that they wouldn't be leaving? I was done with this a month ago...

notigers4me 10 years, 6 months ago

Dang I am kinda sad about all of this. I guess I will have to look for another team to hate. Oh wait we still have K State. Seriously good bye and good riddance.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

Yep. The cats become our rival by default. Can't see continuing rivarly with mizcue.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

No reason to look for another team, notigers. It won't be the same, but we can still thoroughly enjoy watching the regular thrashings that Misuse will be getting in the SEC, as well as their ongoing streak of having never made it to a Final Four.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 6 months ago

Good. Some rivalries are fun, but with them it was just toxic. They are a low class institution from a low class state and we're better off never having to deal with them again.

kureader 10 years, 6 months ago

Let's hope Texas and Texas Tech take care of business in the next two weeks ... and that MU fails to become bowl eligible.

Thomas Michaud 10 years, 6 months ago

Now I know I'll continue my travel through Iowa (rather than Missouri) when I travel back to Kansas; just don't want to ever see those "M" "I" "Z" "Z" "O" "U" billboards again nor stop in Columbia to fill up ... Sad, sad, day -- I for one enjoyed the historic rivalry and will miss it. However, I'm thankful we at least have the K-State rivalry ... wish there were more of a true rivalry with ISU.

Now, can the Big XII end up asking Louisville to join too!!

Mel Clare 10 years, 6 months ago

We added TCU and West Virginia, lost A&M and Missouri.............I would like Lousiville and Cincinnati........or Louisville and Arkansas.............maybe BYU.............

Dan Edwards 10 years, 6 months ago

Finally! Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

Make sure B12 collects exit fee in full.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

No hard feelings on my part. They did what they believed was in their best interest. I find the lack of self esteem on the SEC’s part a bit puzzling. Mizwho has made it very clear the SEC was their second choice. Even commissioned a study to determine if joining would diminish their academic standing. From an athletic prestige perspective this is no big deal but they carry parts of two markets so the loss in demographics is what matters most.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 6 months ago

"Mizwho has made it very clear the SEC was their second choice." Exactly... I see what Missouri thinks it will get but not sure what they bring to the SEC.

brooksmd 10 years, 6 months ago

Another doormat. Probably back door. Not worthy of front.

onlylookin2score 10 years, 6 months ago

The only thing that is puzzling is trying to make sense of your post.... You go from talking about self esteem to commisioning studies to some sort of demographic marketing schpeel... Mike Tyson.. is that you, buddy?

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

Sorry you're so confused. Would you like me to draw you a picture?

onlylookin2score 10 years, 6 months ago

I'm sure if it's your brain telling your hand what to draw, there is no chance... check that, maybe with a child psychologist to help interpret it... but I'm fresh outta those.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

Danmoore's post makes perfect sense to me. So onlylookin, perhaps you need to be "only lookin" in the mirror and checking out your comprehension ability instead of danmoore's communication skills.

WilburNether 10 years, 6 months ago

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Fizzou, don't let the door hit you in the a** on your way out.

Oh, and Fizzou football can say goodbye to qualifying for decent bowl games.

Jeff Coffman 10 years, 6 months ago

They must be hoping that WVU wins the lawsuit, or they are going to get sued and will lose. That could actually be more costly than the exit fees.

jayhawkdropout 10 years, 6 months ago

I am going to miss this rivalry. But I think MU fans are going to be surprised to find out how much more obnoxious KY fans are than Jayhawks.

Jackalope7 10 years, 6 months ago

I think I hate Missouri more now then ever. One of the greatest rivalries in college sports died today. And for Makes me sick. Even as a KU fan, I have friends that are mizzou fans. Only one of them is happy about the move and when I asked why he's happy about the move, he says "Cause we'll get more money." That's what college sports has come to now I guess.

Armen Kurdian 10 years, 6 months ago

I am in violent agreement with you. This is despicable. This miserable stinking chase for more cash at the expense of rivalries, the students, the athletes, is ridiculous. A terrific rivalry with history going back 150 years is gone because of Missouri's desire to make more money. Screw them.

djhawk75 10 years, 6 months ago

Bye, Bye Misery. Don't go away thinking that it was good knowing you, because it wasn't.

ahpersecoachingexperience 10 years, 6 months ago

Ole Miss, Miss St, Kentucky, and even Vandy just chalked up an automatic win for the rest of their life!

coolhand357 10 years, 6 months ago

Go wave your confederate flag where somebody cares.

Steve Reigle 10 years, 6 months ago

I will personally have a very difficult time missing Missouri. Don't let the door....

Terry Sexton 10 years, 6 months ago

Well, who do we bag on now? I say Texas. I got yer long horn right here, buddy.

Mike Skiles 10 years, 6 months ago

Sure glad that rubbish has been taken to the dump! Good riddance to that miserable institution the their so called 'fans'. And our farmers in Kansas can now rest easier, knowing their sheep and cattle are safe from Misery visitors looking for a 'date' across the border .

woodscolt 10 years, 6 months ago

This will give the second tier teams in the sec a game on the schedule they can win. Gets old being pounded by the alabamas and Lsu's. It will give the Lsu's and alabama's a week off and get the reserves into a game.

I for one am happy to see them go. They are god awful rotten sports as well. No more antler antics, whew. They ran off without ever really being able to compete with selfs teams.

Bee Bee 10 years, 6 months ago

Mizzou is a 4 win team in the SEC every season. For some reason their fans think that their football program is ELITE! They are going to find out very soon they aren't. Mizzou will be destroyed by SEC teams. They are only elite as compared to KU and Iowa State. But who isn't?????????

arizonahawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Mizzou is the most elite team in the state of Missouri

Larry Kampa 10 years, 6 months ago

Well after watching LSU-Alabama last night, all I can say is nothing will give me more pleasure than to watch Mizzou get their collective asses kicked up and down the field for the next decade. Can they even spell "defense" in Missouri??

Graczyk 10 years, 6 months ago

I don't think they can even spell "Missouri" in Missouri. That's why they just write Mizzou.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 6 months ago

KUhawks77---thanks for giving a good laugh. Truth be told, I was thinking the same thing. Damn, good minds think alike! Yeah, Mizzou--- don't let the door........

Bill Kackley 10 years, 6 months ago

I have no problem with the "hate" towards MU but I am a born and raised Kansan, graduate of KU, and have lived in Missouri for the last 35 years. Don't knock the people in Missouri there are a lot of KU grads here. Don't turn them off with your sick remarks.

coolhand357 10 years, 6 months ago

Are you saying the KU grads are Misery fans? I don't think anything said here will turn off any KU grads. And what do you mean by "sick" remarks?

Mandie Eutsler 10 years, 6 months ago

Congrats Misery! ...on being the new punching bag in the SEC!

Jackalope7 10 years, 6 months ago

No Doubt! Always figured Mizzou had a small chance at winning the Big 12 in Football. Now they have absolutely no chance of winning the SEC. One thing Mizzou won't be purchasing with all that money from the SEC? ...Trophy Cases.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 6 months ago

Good riddance. They should have gone (if so intent on leaving) to the Big 10 where they would have been a better fit. That was their goal when they started all this crap. Nebraska is one of the top football teams in the Big 10 (despite losing to Northwestern) while slipping to a mid-level Big 12 team their last several years in the Conference. Missouri has zero chance of ever winning an SEC championship in football or any other sport for that matter. I'll miss the rivalry but I hope all Big 12 schools sever any ties w/Missouri. Kansas State will easily fulfill the arch-rival role if they weren't already. West Virginia is going to be a great let's add Louisville and Memphis and the conference will be in great shape.

RockCaCO3 10 years, 6 months ago

Your right, and that's what makes Mizzery look pretty stupid/selfish in this whole scenario.

That said, good f'n riddance.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

Missouri has zero chance of ever winning a Big 12 championship in football or any other sport for that matter.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 6 months ago

jhwkfan162515, You are right, there will never be the same level of intensity.

There are times I find myself cheering for KSU. Something that NEVER happens w/Missouri. I found our rivalry with Missouri was ugly.

The Antlers were never about sportsmanship. And I'm glad I've never seen a group of KU fans that continually generated so much negativity.. We are far from perfect and there have been some embarrassing moments but not anything comparable to the organized filth that the Antlers brought to the rivalry for nearly 30 years.

I made the mistake of traveling to Columbia ONCE my sophomore year and the experience still brings up deep negative feelings and we had won the game. I know I said that I'll miss the rivalry but I'm not sure if it had passed the line beyond what a rivalry should be.

addlime 10 years, 6 months ago

Seriously, go back to your meth lab, moron!

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

But make sure you use their restrooms.

Mandie Eutsler 10 years, 6 months ago

K-State, not much of a rivalry in football or men's b-ball, they would have to win every game for the next 25 years to catch up...

Sport Series Record Last Result Football KU leads 65-39-5† or 64-40-5‡ 59-21 KSU win on October 22, 2011 Men's Basketball KU leads 181-91 84-68 KSU win on February 14, 2011 Women's Basketball KSU leads 59-42 56-51 KSU win on March 5, 2011 Baseball KU leads 176-165-1† or KSU leads 167-161-1‡ 10-6 KSU win on May 22, 2011 Women's Volleyball KSU leads 61-41-1 3-1 KSU win on October 19, 2011 Women's Tennis KU leads 39-11 4-1 KSU win on April 28, 2011 Women's Rowing KSU leads 14-13 13-6 KSU win on April 23, 2011 † - As recorded in the KU record books. ‡ - As recorded in the K-State record books. Includes fall meeting (Sunflower Showdown) led by KSU 7-5, and spring meeting (Kansas Cup) led by KU 8-7.

Jackalope7 10 years, 6 months ago

Might as well. I work a p-rick Nebraska fan who like to gloat about how great Nebraska is at everything...even Women's V-ball team. Means something to some people.

Mandie Eutsler 10 years, 6 months ago

As for the "Border War"... The Missouri-Kansas football series is the second-most-played rivalry in college football history. The teams first matched up in football on October 31, 1891. There have been 9 ties in the 119 games played. The Tigers and Jayhawks first met on the gridiron on Halloween in 1891 in Kansas City, Missouri. The Jayhawks pulled out a 22-10 win in that first game. According to MU the series standings are...MU 56-54-9. Men's b-ball isn't much of a rivalry either with KU leading all time 171-94.

lv_jhwk 10 years, 6 months ago

East. 'Bama wouldn't vote to accept if it meant moving Auburn from the West (would only get to play one cross-division rivalry game, either Auburn or Tennessee but not both).

lawyermog 10 years, 6 months ago

This rivalry was always freedom v. slavery, good v. evil, right v. wrong...K-State will never fill that roll. But it's par for the course from them, turncoats and scoundrels to their core. They wanted to be in the south; well now they can embrace their true heritage. I regret that I cannot hate them more than I already do. Good-Bye.

Jackalope7 10 years, 6 months ago

I love it when Mizzou Fans bring up the raids on Lawrence and how "We came in to Lawrence and burned it down! HAHA". I follow it up with, "Oh? So you're still Pro-Slavery?" That normally my trump card on that conversation.

jhawk4life1976 10 years, 6 months ago

You can also remind them that the Union DID win the war and Quantrill was killed 2 years later.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 6 months ago

MU is going to SEC due to stability issues. Fine. Works for me. Sound logic.

If the Big 12 implodes, then MU being in the SEC make KU to the Big 10 more likely. Removes a competitor and a potential impediment.

If the Big 12 can get to 12, land Louisville and BYU, we're in better shape than when this all started in men's basketball.

And whose birthday is it today??? Happy 150th to Dr. James Naismith.

Alohahawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Nice birthday gift for Dr. Naismith. If there's a slight earthquake today, it's him clapping like crazy, yelling "Rock Chalk Jayhawk", and singing "Got a beak that's big enough to twist the Tiger's tail".

Kye Clark 10 years, 6 months ago

HEM - While in theory removing Misery from the equation makes KU to the Big 10 more likely, it's like saying that when you swim in the ocean and get out you have reduced the volume of water in the ocean due to the water on your body. Factually accurate, but practically irrelevant. The only thing that would ever make KU to the Big 10 more practically possible is sustained success in the football program.

I do agree that the Big 12 should look to land Louisville and BYU, and that would make us a stronger conference in basketball than we were before, and pretty close to the strength in football as before. I still think losing Nebraska was a a bigger loss to our football cred than any of the schools we've added or been rumored to add, but adding West Virginia, Louisville, & BYU would be about as good a replacement as we could hope for.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 6 months ago

Agree on Louisville but would prefer Memphis over BYU. Not for any major reason but their basketball program has had a sustained level of success that started long before Calipari trashed it... They seem to have moved on nicely w/Josh Pastner.

Want nothing to do with the Big 10..I respect the league but would rather see the Big 12 succeed.

Kevin Randell 10 years, 6 months ago

Well....hope they enjoy knowing they just sealed their football coach's fate. Because after 1-2 more years of a losing season Pinkle will be gone. I am going to leave you with a buddy of mines quote he put on face book. This is how I and probably a lot of Jayhawk fans feel:

"Pack up your methlabs, your fireworks & porn convenience stores, and your empty trophy cases and enjoy bottom-feeding in your new home, Slavers."

gchawk 10 years, 6 months ago

All I can think of is: "How's that switchy, changy thing working out for you Colorado and Nebraska"? I honestly believe that it will be pretty comparable for Mizzou. While I concur with most of the posters here in that I will, somewhat, miss the rivalry, I won't miss the obnoxiousness of a large percentage of their fans.

Maracas 10 years, 6 months ago

Enough talk about Missouri. Let us henceforth speak about Missouri as often as we speak about Florida or Mississippi.

Mizzoufan 10 years, 6 months ago

MU is low class? Who are the ones throwing around beastiality claims, slavery claims, meth over-run claims about us and vowing to never spend a penny in Missouri? Oh that's jayhawks. Talk about low class.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 6 months ago

And you have put all Jayhawk fans into one nice box that fits your limited outlook.

kranny 10 years, 6 months ago

Missouri, if you want to know how well this move will work out for you, dial up Colorado.

Mandie Eutsler 10 years, 6 months ago

Can we finally change Missouri St. to Don Famrough Dr.?

Ardy Dehdasht 10 years, 6 months ago

Na na na na... na na na na... Na na na na... Hey hey hey... Who cares...

As we Jayhawks always say... Muck Fizzou

Joseph Kuebel 10 years, 6 months ago

Loll! This clown is pretty creative! Way to come up with some new material!! You have what, 2 more wins head to head (in football, in bball we tear that as UP) VS. KU SINCE 1890?? LOL. Good thing you guys dominate us so much in football- ohhh wait (According to MU- KU was ruled to have an ineligible player in 1960 when KU ruined MUs only perfect season, ruined yet another of your best season, as KU still disputes this ruling to this day .This player was named Bert Coan, who dominanted the game, was later ruled ineligible due to a recruiting violation by a coach when he was playing for TCU... So instead of a 56-54-1 all time record, KU does not acknowledge this as a loss- as this violation did not occur at KU nor was it even known until some time later. So 56 -54 minus one win, and plus one loss is 55-55-1 - figured I'd have to calculate this for you, given your blatantly apparent lack of intelligence... Making the overall series tied.) An overall record for 55-55-1 vs. KU in 120+ yrs is real dominant, about as dominant as you are intelligent...As in: Not at all.

Even funnier is when MU beat KU at Arrowhead in 2007, and KU goes to the Orange Bowl... Quite obviously the committee that decided on who goes to the Orange Bowl takes the team that will have the most fans, and do the best. Also quite obvious is what qualified individuals, the rest of the country and the bowl committee thinks of MU in comparison to KU...Don't hate, just accept! Mizzou is a 2nd rate institution compared to KU.

So, even in the sport your sorry school (suddenly) takes pride in, you were dogged out and dumped on by your superior rival of a school, KU! Thanks for bring a second rate school and playing second fiddle to your rival, even after you beat us everyone knew MU < KU!!!!! Get your second rate school out of here, we appreciate your acknowledgement and inferiority complex that you need to come on your rivals' website to further demonstrate that you are (still) inferior!

Joseph Kuebel 10 years, 6 months ago

Meanwhile, in the sport both schools fans actually care about pay attention to KU completely dominates...171-94! No BCS games, and No final fours. Pretty conclusive that your school continues to (after KU is awarded your BCS game) look like a bunch of sorry no talent as clowns. In line with this public perception: MU announces that it wants to leave the B12 for the B1G (that was intelligent and used some quality foresight and knowledge-sarcasm) and was not only rejected, but not even considered for acceptance to the B1G. Hahahaha, what self respecting individual (much less anyone that represents a "learning" institution) would even consider making it public knowledge they want to join a conference prior to being certain or having some kind of insider knowledge or verification that they would be accepted?... This is like announcing your intent to be married to a woman you have not talked to, and then her publicly saying, "uh no way". Then saying, "I never said I wanted her, I want someone else now, anyways"...

That is pretty sorry and self-loathing of the "2nd beezy", the SEC. Not much self-respect or regard for themselves. I know if I was her dad I'd not be proud. Essentially saying: We are quite obviously their 2nd choice, but we need someone else to add to the list (to get to 14). In that sense I guess Mizzou and the SEC does work out, as MU is used to being 2nd fiddle (to KU) just like the SEC did with them.

jayhawkinATL 10 years, 6 months ago

Hopefully, like UT with A&M, I hope KU tells Mizzou to take a hike as far as keeping the rivalry going. No need to help them line their pockets!

LngTimeFan 10 years, 6 months ago

Could ther possibly EVER be a more inept AD or Chancellor, or President than the bunch at MU? Every school and every student in the SEC, regardless of gpa, will soon be above a whole university in MU. Wait til the MU whining starts as it will and wait til the SEC sees how childish the MU bunch is about everything. Can't wait.

Richard Heckler 10 years, 6 months ago

Good,,, Now all home games will played at home = nice feeling for local cookie jars

utahjayhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Well, the school that first started all this realignment crap finally got what they wanted, and left untold collateral damage in their wake.

My hometown, Kansas City, will now have to pay the biggest penalty for their greediness. The great college atmosphere of KC that developed over the years will now wane. I can only hope the hapless Royals and semi-hapless Chiefs can pick up the slack, or it's one step closer to Wichita and Omaha.

Mike Gammill 10 years, 6 months ago

Thanks to the Big 12 sitting back and allowing the conference to be picked over like buzzards on roadkill, two of college football's longest rivalries are dead:

Kansas vs. Missouri Kansas vs. Nebraska

They were ranked 2 and 3, only Minnesota and Wisconsin have been playing each other longer.

Thank you for your support, great job of running a conference.

Mike Gammill 10 years, 6 months ago

Ok, fine. How about two of college football's longest series?

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

MU leaving for SEC means either:

a) the Missouri state oligarchy just gave Super Corridor boys exactly the right of way to Kentucky that they wanted as a quid pro quo for leaving; or

b) the Missouri state oligarchy is about experience a sudden, acute regime change.

Probably "a", but "b" might be more fun for Kansas fans to watch.

brooksmd 10 years, 6 months ago

Don't lay that hat down when you go to Bama. Those boys will fill it with spit faster than you can whistle Dixie.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

Nice to see you displaying that finenly honed Misuse grammar, a**licker.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 6 months ago

LOL Too bad he won't understand your comment.

okiedave 10 years, 6 months ago

Growing up in Lawrence and bleeding crimson and blue, the KU-MU series was fun. The rivalry began in 1860. It continued in sporting events even before their was a conference. I, for one, hope the rivalry continues. It helps me define good vs. evil, intelligence vs. ignorance, hygiene vs. grim, etc.

Geekinout 10 years, 6 months ago

Freedom vs. slavery. Nice roads vs. crappy roads. Less meth labs vs. more meth labs.

About the only good thing to come out of that state was Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens.

ajhk 10 years, 6 months ago

Just another Paige (Paige Laurie) in the the Mizzou handbook of "How to be a Sleazeball Sellout and Still Have it Blow up in Your Face." -Foreword written by Snyder.

I won't be missing these unlovable losers. F 'em

Kye Clark 10 years, 6 months ago

Now we must all be rooting for West Virginia to hurry up and get here, so we don't have to endure anymore of Fizzou's ignorant, obnoxious, meth-addicted fan base.

(Cue the meth addicted loser in the suit & hat telling us "we'll whip u jayhawks one more time before leaving". Good riddance, we know your exit won't be slowed by carrying all those trophies!)

kusayzone 10 years, 6 months ago

Which SEC school should I mail my Muck Fissou T-shirt to???

KJRFC 10 years, 6 months ago

Send it to South Carolina. I'm a KU alum. who married into a family of South Carolina Gamecocks. I can't wait to travel down to (the good) Columbia and watch USC totally pound the dollars out of FIzzou. Rock Chalk, Jayhawk! Go Cocks!

rob4lb 10 years, 6 months ago

I know that most of these comments are driven by jealousy. Blame the leadership of the Big 12 for losing these teams and believe me, if KU had options, they would do the exact same thing MU, NU, and CU have done.

So where are we. Some of our closest and oldest friends in our neighborhood have left (NU, MU, and CU). We look at the neighborhood now and see our mouthy little brother {KSU) and his quieter friend (ISU). The neighborhood bully (UT) rules the roost and we have to be careful not to upset him. His little brother got fed up a left. We never related very well with UT's other friends (TT and Baylor). A couple of our other old friends have changed (OU and OSU). We don't hang out with them like we used to and we are no longer close.

It's a sad state of affairs, but we have no other options.

Kye Clark 10 years, 6 months ago

Agree & disagree.

Agree that the Big 12 is not the conference we loved when it formed, and that the Big 12 leadership's inaction on keeping the conference together was criminal.

Disagree that the comments are driven by jealousy. Would we have left for a better situation? Probably. However, I think most fans honestly hate Misery, and are rejoicing at seeing them leave. Them leaving is a loss for the traditionalists who dig the historical rivalry, but what did they really bring to the conference? Sustained mediocrity. The biggest loss is in losing the St. Louis market, and in now having to share the KC market to some extent. But the school and it's athletics programs, strictly on their merits and not on their geography, is not a big loss. West Virginia is an upgrade in both football & men's basketball.

So am I sad? Not even a little bit! Jealous? Nope. As I posted above, my greatest concern regarding the whole matter is the Big East holding West Virginia hostage for 2 years and possibly enduring Misery being around for that long.

Bossa_Nova 10 years, 6 months ago

seriously folks, it's quite ironic that most people in Missouri and at Mizzou dont even know there's a rivalry between MU and KU. thats how pathetic things are on the Kansas side of the border. i guess thats what happens in baren red states that produce the likes of Fred Phelps where there's nothing to do but obsess over the local college sports teams, civil war rivalries, pro-choice/pro-life and the concept of evolution in the classroom.

Kye Clark 10 years, 6 months ago

You're posting on a college athletics website. Of course people are discussing college sports. Dumba$$. What exactly are they doing on the Misery side of the border? Go to the Mizzou website and they're talking about the same thing.

As for your comment that "most people in Missouri and at Mizzou dont even know there's a rivalry between MU and KU", that's a lie. Of course they know about it. They're not THAT stupid. They just don't care. They're too busy counting the money they think they're getting in this move. And I don't begrudge them that. But let's not be too quick to judge Kansans. Mizzou is an institution that produced the Antlers. An all-male group of fans who hang out in hotel rooms prank calling opposing players and coaches. Class & intelligence all the way losers!

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 6 months ago

"seriously folks, it's quite ironic that most people in Missouri and at Mizzou dont even know there's a rivalry between MU and KU"

Doesn't speak well for the level of intelligence of 'most people in Missouri and at Mizzou' Do they know St Louis won the World Series?

Dyrk Dugan 10 years, 6 months ago

they will regret it. it won't happen now...or next year...or maybe in five years...but this school will regret moving away from it's traditional, geographic rivals.

KU will not play them anymore. it's over and done. it doesn't matter that they made a last great play for the KC area in one of their last statements...but it makes no sense for us to play them ...especially in basketball. and if we don't play them in basketball, there's no reason to play in football...and sure as heck no reason to play them in non rev sports.

this should be the ultimate motivation for us when we play them this both football and mens bball...this game this year in KC really means something now. KU fans will show up with a passion...and i think our players will be fired up too. it will be a barnburner in Arrowhead for sure.

Good riddance Tiggers!

Kye Clark 10 years, 6 months ago

Cripples? How? Yes losing the St. Louis market is a downside, but I'll ask again: from an athletics standpoint, what did Mizzou bring to the table? Nothing that isn't easily replaced (and actually upgraded) by WVU. Does it hurt our football profile? No. They've never won the Big 12, nor even played in a BCS bowl game. Does it hurt our basketball profile? No. They've never even been to a Final 4, and rarely finished in the top third of the league. Cripples? Fail to see it. I'm not an economics major so I can't pretend to predict the long-term financial ramifications of losing the St. Louis market, but I find it hard to believe it would be "crippling", as if to say the Big 12 will struggle to function without them. You're deluded if you think so.

As for it being sour grapes, I refer you again to my previous post. It's not jealousy or envy that is driving these posts. KU fans hate them. And not in a "we hate them, but respect them as a rival" type of way. We loathe them. And are glad to see them leave.

Kye Clark 10 years, 6 months ago

Your original post said MU leaving cripples the conference. You said nothing about Colorado, Nebraska, & Texas A&M. Of course losing 4 schools and replacing them with 2 won't result in a net benefit, but that wasn't what your original post was talking about. MU for West Virginia straight up IS a net benefit and in no way "cripples" us. WVU is better than MU in football and basketball, the revenue sports so, again, I'd ask you to explain yourself on how this "cripples" us.

Also, don't throw out statements like the Big 12 is now "the weakest academic conference of the remaining 5 viable conferences" as if that is fact. It's not, and you have no evidence to prove your point. If you did, you'd have provided it.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

Tulane guy. Maybe you haven't heard but they were replaced before they left. West Virginia > mizboohoo.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

Only if you're not measuring football and basketball programs.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 6 months ago

KUhawks77---thanks for giving (opps, ME) a good laugh. Truth be told, I was thinking the same thing. Damn, good minds think alike! Yeah, Mizzou--- don't let the door........

classclown 10 years, 6 months ago

I think the font color for this and related stories should have been set to green to accurately reflect the gist of the posts.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

You're right, classclown. The main color should be green, since Misuse left the conference for more money.

actorman 10 years, 6 months ago

I should say they left because they THOUGHT they would get more money. We'll see if it actually plays out that way, after they finish at the bottom of the SEC year after year and their attendance dwindles drastically.

jaybate 10 years, 6 months ago

How long will it be before we are reading about Antlers being lynched in Mississippi?

"Antlers Burning."

Vince Brown 10 years, 6 months ago

I agree with bookemdano. Let 'em go! The only reason they didn't join the confederacy 150 years ago was the presence of Union troops. Nobody's stoppin' the move this time. Let their fans take their boorish behavior south. Not at all sorry to see mu leave the Big 12.

danmoore 10 years, 6 months ago

I will change my hate for mizpoo to indifference once they have left the conference.

milwaukeeJAYHAWK 10 years, 6 months ago

For most of us Jayhawks that aren't from the KC metro area.....K-State is a bigger rival to us than Mizzou. I understand the numerical dominance of KC alums at KU, but out west we've always hated K-State way more as we've had to live around them forever, just like there's more Mizzou fans in KC area for you.

Learn to embrace the KSU rivalry more......Mizzou turned its back on the Border War forever.

Bonnjayhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

Whatever everyone, I know we all just wish we could go to the SEC with them. Big 12 RIP

carneyrick 10 years, 6 months ago

I love it that some Missouri fan thinks that it will improve recruiting. Last year they were Big 10 material; then they decided they were SEC material. Yet they can't win a championship in football , much less a national championship in anything.

As a graduate of LSU living in KCMO I can't figure what these boys have been drinking. Why would kids want to leave and play for a team that has been mediocre when they can play for a championship caliber team.

Now you Mizzou fans have transfered your insanity regarding the SEC.

AZHawk72 10 years, 6 months ago

Wow, what a non-tragedy. This poor conference has been decimated by the departures this year. Not.

During the last ten years: Missouri, zero BCS bowls, Texas A&M also zero; West Virginia and TCU have both been there, done that. Poor TCU--a miserable season with a 13-0 record with a win over a good Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl. I watched West Virginia school Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

The sky is falling--or maybe I didn't watch Nebraska lose to Northwestern at home and Colorado continue to be the worst team to ever play in the PAC.

I conclude every night by taking out the trash and walking the dog. I'm just not sure which category the four departures fit into.

gardenjay 10 years, 6 months ago

The supposed reason for leaving the Big 12 is its lack of stability. So the SEC is supposed to be stable, and why is that? Big 12 better copy whatever formula that is, because instability SUCCCKKKKSSSSS.

Also, I think MU is really stupid and unsentimental. Marriage used to mean more than this money stuff.

Steve Western 10 years, 6 months ago

Please let my BYU Cougars in, pleeeaaazzzzzeeee We'll be good not suck at Texas or TCU as we did this year but get better. We'll travel with 15,000-25,000 to every road game and promise to sell out LaVell Edwards Stadium' 64,000 seats and the Marriott Centers 23,000 with every game. We can't play on Sunday but that's not a biggy The Cougars have 780,000 fans within the Intermountain area with zillions more outside. We finished 2010 with the #27th football attendance, the 3rd highest basketball attendance and we're no academic slouch either, #72 in Best Colleges which would be third in the current B-12. And hey they're nice in Provo real friendly no nasty fan stuff, (not to be mixed up with Utah). Check out a great site on the fan# for each FBS school I'm not sure what's keeping the Cougars out they are closer than West Va, with a larger fan base and the 33rd TV market. Just ask Matt Tait, Provo's not a bad place to visit easy to get to: SLC (Delta's west hub, 40 miles away, PVU Provo's airport 5 miles away. I commute from PHX to all the home and away games, there are nutcases like me all over.

minnhawk84 10 years, 6 months ago

What a BS statement to make 162515. Your momma didn't teach you very well......

Shawn Otrimble 10 years, 6 months ago

We need to get Louisville, Cincy, BYU before its too late....

HawkKlaw 10 years, 6 months ago

Yeah, if we're still going to call it the Big 12, it would make no sense to not have 12 teams. C'mon Big 12 officials!

Or here's a novel idea: Let's not put a number in the name of the conference, so it won't matter whether there are 10, 12, 14 or whatever number of schools.

Displayhawk 10 years, 6 months ago

So the former board chariman of the Big 12 (Brady Deaton), whose job it was to uphold the integrity of the conference through thick and thin, readily gives up and goes to what they perceive to be greener pastures. This is like a naval captain being the first one in the lifeboat after the torpedo hit. The problem is, they are more like the sinking ship now than they were before! I wonder how much Mizcue had to pay the SEC to finally take them???

David Gordon 10 years, 6 months ago

I mean no disrespect to the Fambrough family when I say this, but thank God Don Fambrough didn't live to see this day!

Hey, does this mean I've gotta change my user name?

coolhand357 10 years, 6 months ago

No, keep the user name... but change it to all caps.

GoodbyeMU 10 years, 6 months ago

We all knew this was coming -- time to go get Lou and Cinncy -- eliminate the Big East and have 12 schools again.

Randy Bombardier 10 years, 6 months ago

Well, so much for posing as an academic institution. Now, Mizzu fans can move onto things that are more important such as brewing shine, and chasin your cousin round the still and holdin spittin contests with grandma.

Armen Kurdian 10 years, 6 months ago

Screw you Mizzou and your chase for the almighty dollar. Thanx for ruining one of the best college rivalries in history. Thanx for giving the finger to an institution that you were a part of for over 100 years. Thanx for jumping on the realignment bandwagon instead of leaving well enough alone. Yeah, conferences don't mean anything geographically anymore. Shame on you Tigers. Enjoy your new rivalries with LSU. Oh yeah, lots of history there.

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