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Tuesday, April 14, 2015

Brannen Greene to undergo hip surgery

Kansas guard Brannen Greene gives a few claps before shooting a pair of free throws late in the second half at Wilkerson-Greines Activity Center on Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2015 in Fort Worth, Texas.

Kansas guard Brannen Greene gives a few claps before shooting a pair of free throws late in the second half at Wilkerson-Greines Activity Center on Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2015 in Fort Worth, Texas.

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Kansas University sophomore guard Brannen Greene will have hip surgery Thursday and will miss up to five months of basketball workouts, coach Bill Self told the Journal-World after Monday’s KU basketball banquet at Lawrence’s Holiday Inn.

“It (hip) hurts, but that’s not the problem. The problem is it’s continuing to get worse,” Self said. “He’s had it (bone spurs) for years, and they’ve decided to get it corrected. He’ll be pain-free.”

Self said Greene, who has a torn labrum, would not be able to play in this summer’s World University Games. He will not be red-shirted, Self said, because he should be able to play during the entire 2015-16 season.

“There was a period of time he was the best shooter in the country,” Self said of this past campaign. “He had a minor concussion, and he didn’t hit a shot three weeks after that.”

Summer exhibitions: Self revealed that KU’s World University Games team would play a pair of exhibition contests against the Canadian National Team this summer in Sprint Center in Kansas City, Missouri. It would be the week before the Jayhawks head to South Korea for the Games, which run July 3-14.

“Just because Allen Fieldhouse is not air-conditioned,” Self said of playing in KC. “It’d be hard to play a summertime game in Allen if you are able to put some people in there. It’d probably be pretty miserable. We plan on doing that the week leading up to the tour. Nothing is finalized.”

KU is allowed 12 players on its World Games roster. Svi Mykhailiuk (Ukraine) cannot play for the KU/U.S. team. If Self needs to fill out the roster, he cannot add any former KU players now in the NBA because their participation is against the NBA collective-bargaining agreement.

“It looks like all our ex-players in a development-league-type situation are too old,” Self said. “A Tyshawn (Taylor), Elijah (Johnson), Travis (Releford), they are all too old. They all turn 25 before Jan. 1. You can’t turn 25 before Jan. 1. I could possibly go try to get a guy from another school, somebody fighting to try to find his way just to fill a spot. We’re going to wait and see how many guys we have, who we sign. If we get another international player, he can’t go. Numbers may be such we may need to get a guy or two.”

Recruiting needs: Self is still after several players to fill three open scholarships in recruiting.

“I think we are one ‘big’ away, obviously. We need to sign a big that can anchor it for us. We are actively involved with a couple guys. We hope we can get one of ’em,” Self said. “If we can get a difference-maker guard, a pro, not necessarily meaning a one-and-done guy, but a guy who can come in when you watch him, whether he be a Ben (McLemore) type or somebody like that where you know he’s gonna be an NBA-type guy. If we can get one of those, I think our talent level will be as good as it’s been in a long time.”

Off to workouts: Self said freshmen Kelly Oubre Jr. and Cliff Alexander would be leaving Lawrence today to begin their pre-NBA Draft schedule of workouts. Self has a policy that players cannot leave if their academic status could hurt the school’s APR rating. Self has approved of players leaving in the past as long as their academics are in order, which appears to be the case here.

“Cliff was dealt a bad hand no fault of Cliff,” Self said, apparently referring to having to sit out the end of regular season and postseason because of an NCAA issue. “It is life. As tough as it was, he handled it like a man.”

Thorne update: Former Charlotte center Michael Thorne Jr. will visit Kentucky on April 24-25, Jayhawkslant.com reports. He visited Pitt last weekend and will also visit KU and Illinois before choosing a transfer destination for his senior season.

Ellis was hurting: Self told the banquet-goers Ellis’ sprained knee late in the season was significant. “We kept it from the media how bad it is,” Self said, indicating playing on it couldn’t make the injury any worse. “(But) he didn’t have to play. He worked his butt off. He wasn’t the real Perry. He didn’t have the same bounce.”

Comments

Phil Leister 6 years, 7 months ago

I'm naive, so someone give me some insight. I've always wondered how the APR works, how the guys who declare for the draft can leave campus with 3+ weeks of classes left. Are professors giving them some leeway? Are tutors taking their finals for them? Is the APR not affected if a guy just gets a D or better? Even in my gen eds I took at KU my freshman year, if I had stopped going to class 3 weeks before the semester was over, I'm pretty sure I would have failed all of them.

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

A majority of college basketball players take online courses second semester.

So whenever they finish their class requirements, they are done for the semester.

Kyle Rohde 6 years, 7 months ago

Of all the BS things about college sports, this one bugs me more than anything. How can "students" leave with weeks of class left and still be "in good standing"?

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

Because they have fulfilled their obligations for school.

Online classes often are work at your own pace. Designed for nontraditional students.

Jay Scott 6 years, 7 months ago

Would Self Grab Andrew White if he needs a 3 for the University Games?

David Lara 6 years, 7 months ago

Now you're talking. Also, is Diallo elligible? Don't know if he has US citizenship or not. I don't want a great opportunity such as the U Games, not to mention an attractive element for recruiting, to have no impact in the destination of the recruit we need more than any other for next year.

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

If we picked anybody up outside our program, which is highly unlikely IMO, then I believe we would go after a recent graduate who meets the requirements.

No college coach is going to risk a player injury when the school has nothing to gain.

Benz Junque 6 years, 7 months ago

Get real. This is virtually zero chance that Nebraska loans out one of their players to Kansas to play.

Allison Steen 6 years, 7 months ago

I would take Andrew White for the game, but I think its unrealistic taking from another team. I dunno why everyone dislikes him so much. Self has never said such good things about a player transferring, seemed to be a really great kid and hard worker.

Arthur Ankeney 6 years, 7 months ago

Greene going out for 3 months... This will put him and Svi on the same level as far as playing with the team before the season I guess so will be interesting to see who wins out. I expect Svi to win out the starting 3 spot as he is more versatile and can fill more roles with Greene being an offensive spark off the bench. Here's how I see the line up/minutes working out.

PG: Mason 20 minutes, Graham 20 minutes SG: Seldon 25 minutes, Mason 10 minutes, Graham 5 minutes SF: Svi 25 minutes, Greene 15 minutes PF: Ellis 30 minutes, Traylor 10 minutes C: Lucas 20 minutes, Michelson 20 minutes

Bragg and another recruits not listed as their minutes will depend on their development and how they play collegiate ball.

As McCabe said, with Svi and Greene out, nobody at the 3 right now for world play.

Jim Erickson 6 years, 7 months ago

I like your minute distribution until post...

Scenario 1: Ellis 30, Traylor 15, Bragg 20-25, and Mickelson/Lucas fight for the remaining 10-15 minutes. Scenario (We sign Zimmerman, Maker, or Diallo): Ellis 30, Traylor 10, Bragg 20, Zimmerman/Diallo/Maker 20... This means we have the most talented 5th & 6th post players in this history of planet Earth!

Michael Bennett 6 years, 7 months ago

They could play Bragg at the 3, he's described as being able to play both forward positions. Time will tell but he seems to be a much more versatile athlete on the court than say Perry Ellis. It'd be nice to develop the option of going big with him at the 3 next season, not that Svi or Greene are small but they are both more 2-guards anyway.

Tom Jones 6 years, 7 months ago

Tough break for Brannen. He had a lot to work on this summer.

Heal thyself, young man!

Brian Skelly 6 years, 7 months ago

I would be curious as to what players (regardless of ability) would even be elgible for the games in Korea that arent still on campus?

It sounds like it will only be the guys here (or coming). Anyone know any info on that?

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

If Xavier or TRob were free agents in June and July would they qualify to play in the World Games?

Rich Hetherington 6 years, 7 months ago

Justin Wesley or Kevin Young are probably available and might fill in nicely if we need another big. For those talking about a 3, it's pretty clear Bragg is going to get a lot of PT in Korea with Svi and Greene not there. Despite his transfer, I would not be surprised if Nebraska was approached about Andrew White. I do know if we don't sign another person who can play the 3, they will work out something to use someone from another school.

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

Kevin Young just won Defensive Player of the Year in the NBL (Canadian League), but if we are not getting a game-changer, such as what Withey or TRob could have been, then I would rather KU take the opportunity to develop current players.

Look how much Kentucky gained from playing in the summer last year against various national teams. The key to their great season wasn't only top players or a soft schedule. They had tons of time in the summer to work together and create a cohesive unit.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 7 months ago

KU won't have their full roster in Korea because they won't have Svi with them. That means KU would have to fill out the rest of the scholarships with American citizens to bring the rest over. If KU lands Diallo or doesn't fill out the rest of their scholarships, or both, KU will be looking outside the current roster at that time or at some of the walk ons to fill out their roster for Korea.

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

In that case, yes, take KYoung.

But if the opportunity presented itself I would rather use Withey or TRob.

Jim Erickson 6 years, 7 months ago

As the roster stands right now, we are only chemistry away from a top 5 team. Talent wasn't lacking last season, but chemistry was. Assuming players develop as they should... Mason, Selden, Svi, Ellis, and Bragg is a pretty darn good starting 5 with experience, length, and talent. Graham, Greene, Traylor, Lucas, and Mickelson is about as good of a bench as you get in college basketball. I would love to sign a 7 footer like Maker or Zimmerman to make this even better, but this team could be scary without them.

Along those lines, I'd love to see us use at least 2 of those remaining scholarships to sign guys who will be with the program for 3-4 years. Go after some Frank Mason/Travis Releford/Jeff Withey types!

Benz Junque 6 years, 7 months ago

Sorry but Lucas is not talented enough to get KU to being a Top 5 team. He isn't. He tries hard but he isn't even a threat to score when he is out there. Top 5 teams can't have a starter that is not a threat to score.

Curtis Stutz 6 years, 7 months ago

After KU lost Alexander, Lucas shot 70% from the floor the rest of the season. When you argue with math, you will lose.

Shane Johnston 6 years, 7 months ago

We are already a top 5 team. We're between 4 and 7 in most of the early preseason polls. If we pick up Thorne and another five-star, we probably jump Maryland/ISU/MSU. That already reflects a legitimate shot at a title, especially if you are not too high on UNC. We don't know what UK will look like and most polls ranking UVA high assumed Justin Anderson would come back.

Regardless of who else we sign, there's a very real possibility that Landen starts for us on day 1.

Bryce Landon 6 years, 7 months ago

Coaching was also lacking, and has been for two or three seasons.

Fire Bill Self!

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

That is a very nice way to put it.

Ignorant is another.

Bryce, should Coach K have been fired prior to this year? Because he got popped in the first round twice in a row.

Should Billy Donovan be fired for missing 3 of the last 8 NCAA tourneys entirely?

How about Jim Boeheim (only referring to tourney success/failure)? He's coached for numerous decades and only has one title to show for it.

Allison Steen 6 years, 7 months ago

Well yes, of course they should :-p Bill Self is a great coach and we are lucky to have him. Only ignorant psychopaths think we are better off without him.

Greg Lux 6 years, 7 months ago

Bryce enough of the FBS bold type and large fonts. You have posted the same message in numerous other articles over the last few weeks. We understand you don't want HCBS to continue to coach at the Univ of KS. So please for all the other KU fans who post and read. Let it go and move on.

Craig Koehn 6 years, 7 months ago

How about Conner Frankamp to help us out in South Korea? Just kidding! Self should be able to get another recruit or two to sign and help us out.

Aaron Paisley 6 years, 7 months ago

I think Ben McLemore is the only recent player who be eligible to play based on the age limit, but I don't know if he's been doing online classes to fulfill that part of the eligibility requirements. Beyond Ben, I would guess Self would look at some of the walk ons to fill out the roster.

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure Ben isn't available.

"If Self needs to fill out the roster, he cannot add any former KU players now in the NBA because their participation is against the NBA collective-bargaining agreement."

Erich Hartmann 6 years, 7 months ago

Carlton Bragg, 6'9 McDAA, 225lbs, is also coming! (And he's Uh-mer-i-kun, so he can play...). Self told me Bragg is a "stretch-4", so put him in the post, put Perry at the 'vacated' wing position, and let them flip-flop between perimeter and paint, and drive opposing defenses crazy!

Stated another way, if we get NO new bigs, we still will have 5 bigs, counting Bragg.

Adam Tyler 6 years, 7 months ago

Just curious...

Did Self tell you this personally?

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