Wednesday, October 17, 2012

ESPN: KU hoops has No. 2 recruiting class for 2013

Wayne Selden, middle front row, sits behind the bench during Late Night in the Phog on Friday, Oct. 12, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. Selden was one of 24 players selected for the 2013 McDonald's All-American game.

Wayne Selden, middle front row, sits behind the bench during Late Night in the Phog on Friday, Oct. 12, 2012 at Allen Fieldhouse. Selden was one of 24 players selected for the 2013 McDonald's All-American game.


Kansas University’s men’s basketball recruiting Class of 2013 is currently ranked No. 2 in the country by

The Jayhawks’ class of Conner Frankamp (No. 28, No. 37, Brannen Greene (No. 22 Rivals, No. 41 ESPN), Wayne Selden (No. 14 ESPN, No. 23 Rivals) and Frank Mason (No. 131 Rivals, unranked ESPN) trails only Kentucky’s class of Andrew Harrison (No. 2 ESPN, No. 4 Rivals), Aaron Harrison (No. 3 Rivals, No. 4 ESPN), James Young (No. 5 ESPN, No. 8 Rivals) and Derek Willis (No. 126 Rivals, unranked ESPN).

Florida is ranked No. 3 overall in the ESPN team rankings, followed by Louisville, Memphis, Michigan, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Arkansas, Marquette, Duke, BYU, North Carolina State, Arizona and Florida State. will put out its team rankings at the conclusion of the November signing period.

Tyler Roberson, a 6-8 small forward from Roselle (N.J.) Catholic, will visit KU this weekend.’s No. 29-rated player has a list of KU, Kentucky, SMU, Syracuse, Villanova and Rutgers. The Jayhawks are still in the running for No. 1 Julius Randle, 6-9 from Plano, Texas; No. 5 Aaron Gordon, 6-8 from San Jose, Calif.; and unranked Joel Embiid, 7-foot from Cameroon, currently in Gainesville, Fla.

Fran’s musings: ESPN announcer Fran Fraschilla attended KU practice on Tuesday and posted some of his thoughts on Twitter.

Of freshman forward Landen Lucas, he said: “Big bodied work in progress. I was impressed with (frosh forward Jamari) Traylor. reminded me of a young T-Rob (Thomas Robinson).”

Of freshman forward Perry Ellis he wrote: “Still deer in headlights but talented enough to get out of the way of the car.”

He also wrote: “Elijah Johnson was excellent leader, Ben McLemore is as good a freshman as I’ve seen under (KU coach Bill) Self ... Andrew White can’t defend yet but has a GREAT shooting stroke, Travis Releford is perfect glue guy for young team, Jeff Withey solid, not great.”

KU sophomore guard Naadir Tharpe did not practice Tuesday. Self told the Journal-World he has a sprained ankle and will return to practice today.

Documentary talk: ESPN aired its 30 for 30 ESPN Films production, “There’s No Place Like Home” on Tuesday night.

The documentary chronicled the weeks leading to KU and Lawrence High grad David Booth’s purchasing of James Naismith’s original rules of basketball for $4.3 million at auction.

“I’d be very happy to be a lead sponsor in this project. I’ll do more than my fair share to get this thing done. I’m good for a million on it,” Booth said when first approached by KU grad Josh Swade about buying the rules and keeping them at KU.

Booth wound up being the only KU graduate who bid on the rules.

At one point late in the auction, Booth turned to wife Suzanne and asked if he should continue as the price continued to rise and the auction was marred by long delays from the other bidder, a Duke supporter. She said, yes, and Booth went on to prevail in the auction. His rules will eventually be housed in a building adjacent to the northeast corner of Allen Fieldhouse.

“This is one of those extraordinary moments in one’s life where you can do something that’s truly memorable,” Booth said near the end of the film.

Other quotes ...

From KU coach Bill Self: “When David and I talked (before auction), what I tried to say was what it would mean to every alum that’s ever given a dollar to this place, every student that’s ever attended a class here and certainly what it could mean to us as a basketball program.”

From former KU coach Roy Williams: “There’s no question in my mind I’d like to see them (rules) back at the University of Kansas. Those rules ... to be in that museum in that Hall of Fame at Allen Fieldhouse on Naismith Drive ... that’s where I think they should be.”

Of the fieldhouse, North Carolina coach Williams said: “It’s the greatest venue for a college athletic event I’ve been in, bar none. The guy that sits on the last row is just as enthusiastic as the student that stands on the first row. It bothers me now because I’d like to say that we’re like that (in UNC’s Smith Center). Our people are really good. I mean we really do some great things, but there’s only one Allen Fieldhouse.”

From ESPN’s Dick Vitale: “You could make a case for UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, all those programs, but none of those programs had James Naismith there as a coach. Absolutely (KU has the) strongest case of them all to put those rules right there.”


DPW 1 year, 5 months ago

Don't forget Coach Calipari has a $u$pect recruiting $y$tem in place....thus they have the number one recruiting class once again


wildjayhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

How about those Wildcats, Kansas ST. rated number 4, ha, bet that really sits well with the KU fans. KU lagging behind again.


Konkis Dongington III 1 year, 6 months ago

Marcus Lee is supposed to announce this afternoon:

He's deciding between Cal and UK. If you're someone who wants Randle, you want him to pick UK. Personally, out of the bigs we're still recruiting, Randle is 3rd on my list. Yes, he's uber-talented and strong, but I think I'd rather round out the class with Roberson or the yet to be recruited again Luke Cothron. In fact, Cothron is my ideal because he was top 50 in 2010, experienced as a two year JUCO starter who's done very well, and would come in as a junior, adding depth to the upper class, while playing a traditional 4 role. If we get an OAD, Randle is probably the best available if for no other reason than he will be a traditional 4. Gordon wants to be a shooting guard of all things. Jermaine Lawrence (really a TAD), wants to shoot 3s all day. Embiid will need a season or two to really add to the offense. Randle will body up and score down low. That's more the type of post player we need to complement or be complemented by Ellis. Let's see what happens.


Woody Cragg 1 year, 6 months ago

Just finished watching the 30 for 30-wow, whata documentary! I'd give it an Emmy right now. What a tremendous, and I mean tremendous recruiting element for HCBS! This publically exemplifies what we fans at Kansas know is our rightful place in the legacy of this sport. Hell, I'd even put you on the payroll & give you a company car. Way to go Josh!


86Jayhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Here is a blog by Julius Randle from USAToday.

Looks like HCBD is really impressing the big fella.


Jay Dogger 1 year, 6 months ago

As far as recruiting goes, we have one more schollie remaining. It will most likely go to a Big this fall, probably Embiid, maybe one of the others. I doubt it will go unused by the season's start.

Then after the season we'll see if someone gets flushed or, far less likely, goes to the NBA. With that one (or more?) newly available schollie(s) we can see if a OAD-type player (Randle?) wants to come here.

If by some chance that doesn't happen Self will offer it to some 3-star guy that gets excited about KU calling only to be later flushed. I wouldn't mind banking an open schollie (or giving it to Wesley) for when we soon won't have many to offer with having such a loaded and young team.

I think Tharpe will be the starting PG next year. Obviously it will be determined by how this season goes with his development, but he would be the only upperclassman on the team and I think we would be helped to have one in the starting rotation. Isn't that how Self operates? And Tharpe wouldn't have to be great and score a lot of points; just have a good A/TO ratio, make good decisions and run the offense as a facilitator. He would have the scorers around him and wouldn't have to be the PG that TT & EJ were.

As a junior I would expect him to be better than freshman Mason for sure and an initially better fit than Frankamp (who could still be a roll player to begin with and more important down the road). I'm really curious how he plays this year and will be watching him more than anyone else off the bench. I bet he's mostly solid. Thoughts?

With what I said about Tharpe it makes the Mason signing all the more curious and with Selden on board I would not be surprised to see Mason change his mind soon. I'm not saying he will, but like others posters above have said, it wouldn't be a shock. Maybe Self thinks Mason is the PG of the future (after Tharpe) but I would expect that he wants to sign an elite PG in '14. Mason could be insurance, but I thought that was Adam's role? I'm so confused...


wildjayhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Calipari on ESPN today said he has the best class that he has seen. Number 1 in recruiting and great, great coach.


jaybate 1 year, 6 months ago

Part 4

Self is going to really have to walk a tight rope with Perry Ellis this season.

He has to turn him into the scorer that draws the forearm smashes away from Withey and onto Perry. And yet doing this is exposes Perry to the kind of pressure that no freshman big, unless he is a once a decade type, should really be exposed to.

It will take some incredibly adroit coaching to keep Perry's confidence from getting riddled, and at the same type Perry is going to have to be a very quick study on the kinds of dirty play that is SOP in D1 today.

The logical thing for Self to do early is to play through EJ and Ben and Travis as much as possible, then play through Perry when there are comfortable leads already built up to try to establish his scoring bonafides. When the going gets tough, Self has to come with Kevin Young to do the bulk of the hairy chested stuff and sparking, whenever Perry gets dazed by the combat. And that's a daunting prospect since lion hearted though KY may be, he still stands 6-8 and 180 on the roster.

The committee of Perry and Kevin are going to be crucial to this team, especially if Zach is out for the season with this cuff injury.

Here again, Frannie is right on the money about Perry, though putting it a bit in code. Perry is "...a deer caught in the headlights, but he knows how to get out of the headlights." Self appears to be gambling that Perry can get out of the headlights of oncoming thug ball. Perry is about to become the man with the Red X on his forehead inside...purposely.

Even when Self put the team on BRush's back as a freshman, BRush was at least outside, where he could run away from a lot of the abuse.

Not Perry.

From the minute Self can't find a way to play through his great outside trio of perimeter players, the ball has to go to Perry Ellis, the freshman in order to keep Jeff from getting hammered senseless. And everyone is going to know that's the game plan very shortly. And they are going to know that while Self can bring a lot of fouls, he hasn't got an enforcer and he has to protect Withey at all costs to save him for defense.

Perry, you are about to get trial by fire without any bullies on your side.

I wish you could wear a helmet. I really do.

Rock Chalk, Perry Ellis!

The direst circumstances offer the greatest opportunities.

Seize this one if you can. If Self believes you can do it, then you probably can.

But wear your mouth piece.


jaybate 1 year, 6 months ago

Part 3

This team is going to turn out to look more like last year's team than a lot of board rat's think, unless it stays exceedingly healthy. And this will especially be true if injuries occur on the perimeter, as they did last year, where KU had to play EJ and Travis hurt. The perimeter starters will have to play hurt again, if the injury bug bites.

If Jeff has to average more than 10 ppg, the opposing teams will just butcher him till he is injured, and then KU will lose the fabulous defensive edge he creates. And without that shot blocking edge, KU lacks a TRob grade rebounder, so the vaunted Self Defense could come unglued in a hurry.

Protecting Jeff on the offensive end had to be PARAMOUNT on every player's mind. Because opponents are going to take their cheap shots on him on the offensive end in order to take him out of his defensive game. And they aren't going to have to worry about Thomas forearm smashing people for pay back this season.

Self keeps harping on Perry's aggressiveness, not because Perry is particularly lacking in aggressiveness.

Self is talking about it, because he knows he is about to throw Perry Ellis to the XTReme Dogs as a freshman in a way he never had to do with Marcus Morris, or TRob, or any big man. And he knows that things have gotten way, way rougher than they were when Cole got his face smashed in by MSU his sophomore season.

Frankly, I already feel terrible for Perry Ellis. He is a class act in every way. He is a straight A student. He obviously has a first rate mind. And he wanted to play some three.

But instead he is about to find himself caught up in a kind combat that frankly can't be comprehended for about half a season, or a full season.

Anthony Davis was considered the best player in the country as a freshman and he was subjected to some terrible beatings over the season. And even when everyone said he had matured into what people expected him to become by the end of his freshman season, in the Finals, after playing some spectacular run and bump for ten minutes of the final against KU, KU turned him into a 1-10 punching bag on offense who really went completely off the tracks and was saved mostly by his teammates and especially Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, who was some kind of freak of athleticism and maturity at an early age.


jaybate 1 year, 6 months ago

Part 2

What he can't let happen, without an enforcer on the team, is to let teams scheme all season long to beat Jeff up the way they beat up Thomas last season, because Jeff probably can't take the physical beating Thomas was given last year. By season's end, Thomas' arms were taped, his legs were taped, and god only knows what kinds of bumps and bruises did not show on Superman's body.

What Self has to do is build a fully diversified scoring offense, as he did in '08, so that opponents will not key on Jeff, any more than they keyed on Darrell Arthur in '08.

Then, when the situation calls for a surprise attack, Self can play through Jeff the way Self worked through Darrell in a few big games in '08.

Fran and Bill appear to be pals. Fran appears to be doing his best to underplay Jeff, and pump up how sweet JamTray is, who of course Bill is saying is still very raw. But read the fine print on what Frannie said about JamTray. He's like a young TRob. Remember that as a freshman TRob could barely walk and chew gum and was very rarely on the floor. And as a soph, he was little more than a designated enforcer the first half of his soph season, when he almost fouled without moving. He blossomed into a fine third big the second half, but even then the fouling was unpredictable.

So: the question is: is Frannie saying JamTray will be like TRob as a frosh, or like TRob as a sophomore. Who knows? Self has been all over the map on JamTray. Last year he was likely to start ahead of Jeff. This year he is "getting better every day," but has played such a short time that Perry Ellis "...can have all the minutes he wants, if he just stays aggressive."

Here's the way the scoring has to look like for Jeff to be saved for crucial surprise attacks on offense, and so preserved from the beating that goes with being played through on offense.

EJ 15ppg Ben 15ppg Travis 12ppg Perry/Kevin 15 ppg Jeff 10 ppg Bench (Andrew, Zach, Justin, Landon) 8 Total 75ppg

This is a lot of scoring to expect from the starting six, but it has to be this way. The good news is that a healthy Travis could pick up the slack for EJ and Ben on bad nights.


jaybate 1 year, 6 months ago

"Diversifying Scoring Can Protect Jeff, But It Puts Perry Squarely in the Cross Hairs"

Part 1

Fran Fraschilla appears to me to be doing some image management for Bill.

Recall, when assessing Jeff, that nobody expected Thomas Robinson to become the first or second best player in D1 last season.

Next, recall that Jeff had a triple double in one of the exhibition games last season, when he had to produce when Tyshawn and Thomas were out. Recall also that Jeff scored a lot in high school. Recall he's got a very good touch.

His two deficiencies from an offensive standpoint are: 1) not enough strength to carry rodeo cowboys on his back up to the rim to finish, and 2) not enough lower body weight and strength to sustain position on the low block when XTReme Muscle is being played.

I'm guessing he realized after last season how rich he could become and that he and Hudy have done a credible job at improving him on both counts coming into this season.

But Hudy can't apparently create a 240-250 enforcer at the 4 that will be needed to keep opponents from using Jeff as a kick boxing target, if Self announces KU will be playing through Jeff.

Self has apparently learned his lesson with the experiences of Cole, Marcus and Thomas, about announcing his intentions to play through a big. Cole was butchered. Marcus was worn to a frazzle by the end. And Thomas suffered the most disgraceful abuse of a big man in a Kansas uniform that I can ever recall. Wilt might have gotten worse, but opposing teams did not oppose him with benches full of 240 pound mug ballers allowed to foul indefinitely by refs keeping games in broadcast windows.

Self appears to be massively down playing Jeff for good reason. Without a legitimate enforcer on the floor, there is just no way Self can telegraph an intention to play through Jeff offensively. To do so would be like signing a contract for him to be XTReme Mugged.

Self can play through Jeff any damned time he needs to, unless its out and out mug ball.


JayHok 1 year, 6 months ago

Like someone else said above, I too think Swade should get his jersey hung, Booth too obviously. Before those two go up Naismith and Phog SERIOUSLY need to hang from the rafters. Perhaps a coaching tree with Naismith at the top.

Without doing a search, let's do a quiz for fun.

The rules have been in Lawrence:

A. Never before Booth bought them B. a brief time, 3 years, while Naismith was here. C. A year until Naismith mailed the rules to his mother. D. For the entire time he was at KU, for all two years. E. for the entire time he was at KU, 40+ years. F. For the entire time he was at KU, 40+ years, plus 10 years after his death until they were discovered by his family. G. I don't know H. The rules always resided in Springfield until Naismith's grandson took them for a tour a few years ago. After being purchased in New York, they have remained in a safe of David Booth until a proper structure is built adjacent to the Fieldhouse.


oldalum 1 year, 6 months ago

For those who want to write and thank the Booth family, their address is listed in the Alumni Assoc. directory. Probably isn't their house, but it should get to them.


KUFlippin 1 year, 6 months ago

Does anyone know where we could watch the 30 for 30 episode online?


BPSkelly 1 year, 6 months ago

Any institution that fund raises views competing fund raising as such. I've known and dealt with directly in the academic, charitable foundation, faith based organizations. I can assure it's not peace, love and pancakes when it comes to fundraising. I've not dealt directly with academia with this, but I know folks who have. If there is some big project a University (or even a whole University system) is trying to launch, they will try like hell to knock down smaller projects -- say an Engineering department has some grant money for a project, but needs about 70% matching funds from corporate / personal donations. It's quite common for higher ups to either directly, or more often than behind closed doors and subtly, to try and squash it.

I've personally dealt with this in the charitable and faith based areas. I can tell you if it doesnt directly flow with whatever the 'up above' folks say, think, and want; its not uncommon or them to either railroaded or at minimum not promote it. Big range in there of course, but the principle is the same. There's only so many donate-able dollars to be given out. Especially in this economy.

It's unsurprising to me KU wasnt all that enthusiastic about it. Short sighted on their part in my mind. We all love KU, and almost all that goes with it. But KU hoops is the only true "window" that most folks see and hear of the university. At least outside the academic arena. Thankfully David Booth finally saw the value in that. Bless that fine rich man!!!


Steve Gantz 1 year, 6 months ago

My thoughts on the article: The auction sale price was 3.8 million, not sure why it's reported here as 4.3 million.

Booth once donated 300 million to the University of Chicago. I think that's why it's the U of C Booth Business School.

Vitale praised KU in the documentary, not sure why people still are ripping him.

Self doesn't have the #1 class again? Fire this clown before he ruins the program!

A few more weeks til live basketball. Can't wait! RCJHKU!


Eric Bernauer 1 year, 6 months ago

I loved Josh's comment that others may think his priorities are screwed up. Well, they are screwed up! Your point being......? Aren't the priorities of all Jayhawk fans screwed up? That just means you're one of us!


William Blake 1 year, 6 months ago

"Jeff Withey solid, not great.”

Really? Maybe his offense has a ways to go but look back last year at all his blocks and defense... Didn't he block more shots than the unibrow God in the big dance?

Jeff Withey became the greatest shot blocker in a single NCAA Tournament... that record eclipses lots of greats from past tournaments... Olajuwon, Sampson, Ewing... Jeff passed them all!

I'd call him "great!"

Rock Chalk, Jeff... go prove them all wrong again this year by dominating the block like we know you can!


JHawk06 1 year, 6 months ago

Glad to see our recruiting class so highly regarded!

Is it just my wife and I or does anyone else feel the need to write letters to Mr. Booth (especially) and Dr. Allen to thank them for their unwavering support of KU? -and yes Josh too

I know they would most likely not even receive/read them but it just seems that there should be something we can do to show our appreciation.

Rock Chalk


midwest_muser 1 year, 6 months ago

I can't imagine the pressure that Booth felt. Sitting there with the cameras rolling..are you up for it or not? Tough situation. He deserves a lot of appreciation...


Miguel Colón 1 year, 6 months ago

Can we get Josh Swade in the Booth Atheletic Hall of Fame?? He deserves a spot!


Tony Bandle 1 year, 6 months ago

Let me try this again:

1] Withey goes, Conner F. comes. 2] Releford goes, Brannen comes. 3] EJ goes, Wayne comes. 4] Kevin goes, Frank comes. 5] Keith's cousin gives up schollie to Jo Jo. 6] But how do we also get Randle AND Robertson??


Tony Bandle 1 year, 6 months ago

Help me here: 1. TRob gone, schollie to Perry 2. Tyshawn gone, schollie to Conner F. 3. Conner T. gone, schollie to Brannen 4. 2013 schollie to Frank 5. 2013 scollie to Wayne 6. Keith's cousin returns schollie for Embiid

Question to my illustrious fellow posters...where do scholarships come from for Randle and Gordon. Unless David Booth starts paying for tuition for a couple of guys, aren't we Jayhawks about done????????

PS taped the show...replayed it three straight times. New term for any enthusiastic Kansas fan,, I'm a "Joshhawk"!!


Jerry Rockhold 1 year, 6 months ago

Lest we not forget, Bob Knight many times is one of the worst prepared, most mistake-proned coaches-turned-broadcasters of all time. Fran will be well-prepared & unbiased in stark contrast to Knight. Be thankful for the change & let's keep KU BB a "BOB-FREE" zone. RCJH, GO KU!!!


jaybate 1 year, 6 months ago

"Proposition: College Basketball OAD Draft Lottery"

After reading that KU's second ranked recruiting class is 10 to 20 ranking positions inferior to UK's regarding every recruit, the non UK schools need to band together and lobby the NCAA to establish an OAD draft lottery. It works for the NBA and apparently has established legal precedent.

Here is one way to do it.

Each OAD picks three schools he would be willing to play for.

Each of the three schools picked have to have different shoe company contracts and different agency contracts. The shoe companies and agencies have to be independently owned with no interlocking board memberships or joint holding companies. This will force the emergence of a more diversified, stable and more symmetric ShoeCo and agency oligopoly; a regime more typically found in and more fitting with producer oligopoly economics today.

The player then draws straws in a televised , primetime event each year to see which school he will attend.

Each school can only be listed on five OADs selection lists. Once the school is on five OAD's lists then the school is closed to further listings and remaining OAD's must select other programs.

The straw drawing will occur after the deadline for conventional signing of all non OAD recruits and after the deadline for all early departure decisions by non OAD players.

Any one that chooses not to be an OAD has to stay 3 years.

If asymmetry by shoe contract and/or agency affiliation later emerges amidst non OAD recruits, then the system will be extentended as far into incoming recruiting classes, as necessary to remedy the asymmetry.


Konkis Dongington III 1 year, 6 months ago

As far as Fran's analysis, I think most of what he has to say is encouraging. Withey being solid but not great isn't a sleight to Withey. Solid is what we need from him. He's a very limited offensive player. If he's leading the team in scoring night in and night out, something probably isn't working. If Withey scores 2 more ppg and grabs 3 more boards, he'll be producing like the junior Cole Aldrich, and he's the better shot blocker between the two.

White not having it together defensively won't last long. Defense is Self's specialty. He'll put it together.

It's very reassuring to hear from the outside that BMac is as good as Self has built him up to be. We haven't had a true pickpocket since Chalmers. I hope BMac can give us a little more of that.

Traylor looking like a young TRob is good, but not something to get overly excited about. The young TRob was a garbage man. He was a physically impressive garbage man, but a garbage man nonetheless. That's a good role for a frosh Traylor.

Ellis stands as the lone concern because we need him to be more productive than we've had a freshman big be in a long time. I have faith in Self's ability to draw it out of him, but I won't be surprised if it takes until conference time for him to put it all together. Good news is that we've got a lot of cupcake games for him to work on it. The bad news is that we've got an early contest against a veteran Izzo squad and it's an occasion that we're going to need the young guys to rise to, Perry chief among them.


KEITHMILES05 1 year, 6 months ago

I was shocked to hear KU was against Booth bidding on the rules.Who in the hell called and told him to back off? We didn't have an AD so who was it? Somebody in the chancellors office? WHO?

Thank goodness for Josh and his intensive efforts or this never, ever would have been done.

Why was he never able to get in touch with Self? I mean he could get an audience with Roy but not Self? That is very weird.

At the end of the day sure glad private investment stepped forth disregarding the shameful acts of KU.


Brak 1 year, 6 months ago

Great documentary and when Josh started the Rock Chalk chant in Duke arena I was rolling. I loved his comment about them being "new money" because they didn't start winning til the 90s. Love the guys passion and while it bordered on fanatical like he said, he knew what he was doing was a little far fetched but he didn't care because it made him happy. Even during the bidding scene I knew how it turned out but I was on the edge of the seat hoping he won the final bid. Everyday is a good day to be a Jayhawk but things like this make it a little better.


Greg Ledom 1 year, 6 months ago

Random comments.

1) 30 for 30 There's No Place Like Home was fantastic. A huge committment from Mr. Booth that no one else was willing to make. Can't wait to see The Rules in Allen Fieldhouse.

2) Sweet recruiting class that isn't yet finished. The future is well preserved for more runs.

3) Let the Roy hatred go. The dude went HOME. Anyone who has not ever gone back on something they said can cast the first stone. Here is what Roy didn't think would happen; another chance to go HOME because of the schools history and success with coaches. Who would have thought Matt would have failed like he did.

4) You may not like Vitale for his loud and overdone basketball one liners, but you can't question his passion and committment to the game. He mentioned several other high profile and history rich programs, but landed on KU as the place they belong. If you've ever watched a Vitale video of him talking to kids at a camp about what's really important in life you might (doubtful for the haters) change your mind on him. He's overdone at this stage, but not an idiot. Dude has a big Italion heart.

5) I know it may be tough to see, but on the football front, our football team is making progress people. We've had one game where the score was ugly, and that can be squarely attributed to the turnovers. I truly believe we are headed in the right direction.


Jack Wilson 1 year, 6 months ago

What Mr. and Mrs. Booth did for KU should never be understated, nor should Josh Swade's organizational efforts. For Vitale to argue that there's a case to be made for other schools really is absurd because he makes that statement as if there is a legitimate case for other schools .. sure, you can argue for any top school. But there is only one legitimate home. KU.

I thought about why KU didn't endorse this effort, why the University tried to dissuade Mr. Booth, and who was making those decisions/efforts. It's about money. My guess is KU (and our lovely chancellor) didn't want Booth or any other donor expending resources on the rules of basketball vs. other KU causes that might have been more important to her/them. There are only so many dollars to be donated. When there is no other legitimate answer, then money tends to drive it. I'm curious if anyone else has a theory there?

Thank goodness for visionaries.


Miguel Colón 1 year, 6 months ago

Can we bring Roy home and thank him for the success he brought us? Yes I was hurt and upset when he left, but as the years have gone so too has the pain. Please bring Roy back so we can give him a night and make him feel HOME AGAIN!


Jason Keller 1 year, 6 months ago

In reference to some of the conversation on here regarding Nike vs Adidas and how it relates to college basketball. Probably the hottest hiphop song out right now is called Clique and is done by several heavy hitters in the hiphop world such as Jay-Z, Kanye West and others that most of us don't know much about. Anyway, in the song a rapper named Big Sean references Adidas basketball affiliations a couple times inbetween versuses. Like I said this song is huge right now and these rappers influence kids heavily. I never used to notice things like this until Bate and everyone else started talking about it but I think its real.


Timmay97 1 year, 6 months ago

That ESPN documentary last night was simply awesome. For anyone who "couldn't remember" the final tally for what the Naismith rules went for was in for a real treat. I think some of us forget that these guys were jumping up by $100K each bet. How many of us make 100K in a year? I would venture few.

In any case......somewhat off subject but I thought you all would enjoy some good reading material courtesy of Wikipedia dedicated ALL to the Kansas Jayhawks. A lot of material here for you to read for that day you're bored or at lunch while at work.

Enjoy! Rock Chalk Jayhawk!


Dan Harris 1 year, 6 months ago

Thank You Josh for all your hard work zig zagging the country in your pursuit to bring the rule back to their only natural venue.

Thank You Mr Booth for graciously parting ways with 4.3 Milllllllion to bring the rules home.

Now we will be able to not only walk reruits through the hallowed shrine that is "The Phog" but show them the holy grail too!

Props to Dr Allen for helping to close the deal ! RCJH!


bennybob 1 year, 6 months ago

We're back were we should be with the #2 recruiting class.

We were top 5 class staple for Self's first 5-6 years.

Yet somehow, people still don't believe what we witnessed the past 3 seasons up until now wasn't a recruiting slump!

i'll never understand it!


James Naismith 1 year, 6 months ago

He's kind of a doofus, so no harm, no foul. I doubt what he saw will help OU where his kid sits.

If he was such a talent evaluator as he clliams, he might still be coaching. He couldn't even get the gig at a few middle of the pack schools recently.


brooksmd 1 year, 6 months ago

Damn, #2 class. Not bad for a coach that can't recruit. And I think a special jersey for Josh Swade should be hung from the rafters of AFH for his hard work and dedication to getting the rules back to KU. Shoot, even my wife was engrossed in the show last night and she's from Louisiana.


Martin Rosenblum 1 year, 6 months ago

Doesn't Fraschilla still have a son playing on a Big12 team? Anybody else a little bothered about him being at our practice?


Eliott Reeder 1 year, 6 months ago

Well, prepare yourself, because there will be MANY turnovers to witness. This teamvwill win with its defense. At least for the first half of the season...


Michael Pannacciulli 1 year, 6 months ago

Randle...can he still be giving us a look?

Roberson would be a nice edition also...


BucknellJayhawk3 1 year, 6 months ago

Wow, we've got a ton of guys between this year's class and next year's. Playing time is going to be pretty tough. I wonder if the players on the current roster ever hope that KU doesn't get good recruits so they have a better chance to play. It'll be interesting to see what happens to guys like Mason and Anrio over time. Will they become starters or key role players by their upper class years or do they look into transferring if they aren't patient with the process. I remember when Travis Releford was a freshman thinking man, how is this guy going to start for KU in the future? Looks like he's doing pretty good for himself now, though.

Another random thought: With all these new guys I just want KU to protect the ball. I hate seeing turnovers more than anything.


nuleafjhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Of the fieldhouse, North Carolina coach Williams said: “It’s the greatest venue for a college athletic event I’ve been in, bar none. The guy that sits on the last row is just as enthusiastic as the student that stands on the first row. It bothers me now because I’d like to say that we’re like that (in UNC’s Smith Center). Our people are really good. I mean we really do some great things, but there’s only one Allen Fieldhouse.”

Roy - I'm pretty much at peace with you now, especially with the last health scare of yours, but PLEASE quit saying nice things about us. Whatever little bit of malice I still have against you, I'd really like to hold onto and you're making it very difficult.


milehighhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Definitely had something in my eye a couple times during 30 for 30.


nuleafjhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

"I’d be very happy to be a lead sponsor in this project. I’ll do more than my fair share to get this thing done. I’m good for a million on it,”

Big Deal.

If I had a dollar for every time I'd donated a million to some


DDDHawk 1 year, 6 months ago

There's No Place Like Home was AWESOME! Thanks to the zealous efforts of Josh Swade, Jayhawk Fan Extraordinairre David Booth, Dr. Allen, numerous coaches who love KU, and all of those involved in the documentary, the most important document in sports history will be back home where it belongs. Thank you, thank you, thank you to all of you!!!!!


REHawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Ha! Ol' Fran sounds as parsimonious as Self himself, nudging passive roosters into the ring. Jeff and Perry, are your feathers ruffled?


Phil Leister 1 year, 6 months ago

Vitale just doesn't understand. I'd love to hear the "case" from the schools he mentioned...


Jeff Schartz 1 year, 6 months ago

I doubt that we will overtake Kentucky at the #1 spot on the commitment list, year in and year out, but, I know that we have a better coach!


Alohahawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Watched the documentary on the auction to purchase Naismith's Founding Rules of Basketball. As a member of the Jayhawk Nation, and a basketball fan in general, it made me feel proud. Sooo glad that the rules have been brought back to KU. I've always felt I'm one of the most fanatical Jayhawk fans. I find it hard to believe, but I have to admit that Josh Swade may be even more so.

The interviews with former KU coaches, previous Jayhawk basketball players, national sports commentators, and the investors all made for an enjoyable watch.

The real time bidding war was exciting, even though I already knew the outcome. Sold for $3.8 million, and how satisfying!!! For everyone involved.

I specifically loved Josh Swade chanting the Rock Chalk chant while sitting in the empty bleachers at Duke's basketball court.

ROCK CHALK, and a huge "MAHALO" to Josh Swade, who spent so much time and energy in accomplishing his goal of bringing them back! And to David Booth and his family, for his/their support and contributions, both monetarily and for taking time out his busy schedule, and for helping to see Josh's (and the Jayhawk Nation's) dream fulfilled.


JayHok 1 year, 6 months ago

I'm not sure Vitale gets it. These exact rules spent close to 50 years in Lawrence already. They have returned home. Thank goodness Booth's wife let Kansas beat Duke. Imagine how sick we would have felt to see Coach K parading those around twice a week on TV.


MrMario15 1 year, 6 months ago

Wow, ole Franny was kind of harsh on Withey


Bill Skeet 1 year, 6 months ago

I still get shivers about The Rules!

Thanks again to all who made it happen, including the Booth family, the Allen family, and of course the point guard, Josh.

I really want to thank Josh because I can now point to him and convince my wife that "I am not the most crazed KU fan in the world."

Though I am not proud to be less than the best at this, it may comfort her some.


Michael Luby 1 year, 6 months ago

So might we assume, based on Franny's tweets, that Traylor will start in place of Ellis? If not, he will definitely take some minutes from Peters (injured) and Lucas.


nwhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

Withey had just eaten a beef and bean burrito from 7-11. Nobody's at their best after that.


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