Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Beyond the Phog’ excerpt: Keith Langford on Kris Humphries, Roy Williams

"Beyond the Phog" book.

"Beyond the Phog" book.



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"Beyond the Phog" book.

The following is an excerpt from "Beyond the Phog - Untold Stories from Kansas Basketball's Most Dominant Decade." Compiled by Jason King of Yahoo! Sports and Lawrence Journal-World sportswriter Jesse Newell, the 400-page book includes interviews with 40 players and coaches from the most successful era in Jayhawks history. "Beyond the Phog" will be available in stores Sept. 30. For more information or to pre-order the book, check out will run excerpts from the book throughout the next few weeks.

In Keith Langford's words ...


Most people don’t know this, but we had a lot of recruits take visits here, guys that are in the NBA right now, that Roy turned down. He would talk to us after their visit and ask us if we thought the guy would be a good fit. That was Roy's thing: It wasn’t always about getting the highest-rated recruits. It was about getting guys who were the best fit for what was going on.

Kris Humphries came on a visit and tried to commit. He really wanted to come here. But no one on the team liked Kris Humphries. He was arrogant. He told everyone he was going to come in and be the leading scorer as a freshman and that we’d all have to take a backseat to him. We were trying to be respectful and not say anything. But he was an absolute jerk. It was tough, because Roy was really excited about him. Kris Humphries was a big deal. He was a one-and-done or a two-and-done kind of player. Roy wanted him to commit on his visit. But we told him, "Coach, you can't bring this guy in. You can't do it." You'd figure Roy would say something like, “Let’s work on him,” or “Let’s give him another chance.” Instead he told Humphries, “Sorry, but you can’t come.” Bill Self did the same thing years later with Terrence Williams.

For all the respect we showed Roy, he always made it a point to show respect back. He treated everyone in his program really well. The coaches would never eat before the players. And when it came to getting in line for food, the seniors would always go first — then junior, sophomores, freshmen, managers and then coaches at the very end. They treated everyone from top to bottom the absolute same. Drew would get the same amount of attention that Chris Zerbe would get. It was incredible. His morals and his ethics and the way he conducted himself ... we would never catch him being a hypocrite. That was big with us.

Another thing was that, with us, you never had to worry about any sort of NCAA violations or rule-breaking. Roy always emphasized that he was going to do everything he could to help get us money. He was going to squeeze every dollar he could out of our scholarship checks. He was going to help us get our Pell grants and find camps for us to work at during the summer. He'd always say, “Don’t do anything to break NCAA rules, because we’re going to make sure you have a way to make money.” He was great about that. The fact that we stayed out of trouble also goes back to the character of guys he brought in. Like I said, it wasn't always the top 10 guys. It was the guys who were the best fit.


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Ethan Berger 2 years, 7 months ago

Still don't like what Roy did to us, but his teams have always have good chemistry. That is what makes him and Self such great coaches. They don't have to get the top 5 guys in every class. They get good talent that gel well and they become great talent (Collison, Hinrich, Morris Twins to name a few for both coaches).


baby_jay 2 years, 7 months ago

i saw this story on US Magazine's website - national (gossip) news!


Clarence Haynes 2 years, 7 months ago

Roy also had the clarevoyance of not wanting to attend the big wedding this past summer!


Mike Bratisax 2 years, 7 months ago

Just for something lighthearted: Missouri town kindly asks the University of Kansas to drop 'Jayhawks' nickname for celebrating domestic terrorism.

The people of Osceola, Missouri, are still butt hurt over Jayhawkers raiding their town 150 years ago. The Columbia Daily Tribune is reporting that the town's board of aldermen passed a resolution Tuesday requesting that the University of Kansas drop its "Jayhawks" nickname and end the school's supposed association with "a group of domestic terrorists."


Vincent Patterson 2 years, 7 months ago

After all the crap Roy received from UNC fans after pulling that sticker stunt at the Final Four, ain't no way in hell he was about to show up to The Legends game. UNC fans are still salty about that! I wouldn't expect to see him at an event like that until he retires. Would be cool as hell to see him there though.


Steve Gantz 2 years, 7 months ago

Looking like a pretty decent book about KU basketball. I'll have to have my wife buy it for me for Christmas.


Kc Ticketguy 2 years, 7 months ago

Roy needs to come to the legends game!


kuis1 2 years, 7 months ago

I played against Kris Humphries in 8th grade at a basketball camp and all the coaches did was kiss his butt the entire time. He was an arrogant baby and the camp had to go his way or he would throw a fit. I can definitely confirm what Langford was saying about him. Very happy Roy passed on him.


bay93 2 years, 7 months ago

I was watching from the stands when Kris Humphries visited. Roy got mad at someone during practice and then turned around a yelled at Humphries, "Yes Kris Humphres, if you come here I'll yell at you like that too". Neil Dougherty came running over to talk to Humphries, looked like he was trying to smooth things out. My thought was, I guess he's not coming. I never would have thought that he was turned down.


sonofdaxjones 2 years, 7 months ago

Roy's a tard. Let's see how Bentard spins this one.


FSUJHAWK 2 years, 7 months ago

Where are the proceeds from the sale of this book going?



Michael Pannacciulli 2 years, 7 months ago

This is how all coaches except Cal operate, it's their job. I was a student during the Roy years and will always be a fan of his. loved the teams, Roy's fire, etc. Keith was a lot of fun to watch...quick and had some great dunks!


nuleafjhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

"Most people don’t know this, but we had a lot of recruits take visits here, guys that are in the NBA right now, that Roy turned down. He would talk to us after their visit and ask us if we thought the guy would be a good fit. That was Roy's thing: It wasn’t always about getting the highest-rated recruits. It was about getting guys who were the best fit for what was going on."

That was the only thing I read in this article. It seems very much like what Self does and most of you want his head to roll because he can't land every single top recruit.

Maybe he doesn't WANT every single top recruit ??


Danny Hernandez 2 years, 7 months ago

as for payments to seniors, I'm sure Coach Williams thought that since they exhausted their eligibility, it was ok....I too would have thought the same and obviously been wrong. I still don't see whats the big deal.


KEITHMILES05 2 years, 7 months ago

I can amazed Roy allowed cash payment to the graduating seniors by a booster. For being such a control freak it's very odd he thought that would be ok.


jayhawkdon 2 years, 7 months ago

Great excerpt, can't wait to get the book!!!


Funhawk 2 years, 7 months ago

This book sounds so revealing, I want to read it NOW!


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