Thursday, October 21, 2010

Markieff Morris to miss 7-10 days with injury


Kansas University junior center Markieff Morris will undergo hernia surgery today that will likely keep him out a week to 10 days, coach Bill Self said Wednesday night.

The 6-foot-10, 246-pounder from Philadelphia hasn’t missed any of KU’s first six practices because of the injury.

“Markieff is having the most minor of surgeries (today). You never want guys to miss any time, but we’re probably talking about missing seven days of practice. He should be able to run and shoot within days, be full-speed within seven to 10 days,” Self said.

“During that time we take two days off, so you are talking about missing seven days of practice. He should not miss any time during games. He’s going to get some time off here to give that a chance to heal,” Self added.

If all goes to plan, Morris should be available for the exhibition opener against Washburn on Nov. 2.

Self said sophomore center Jeff Withey (broken bone, right foot) should be full speed by early November.

As far as general impressions of practice, Self has been, well, impressed.

“It’s been good. They are trying hard,” Self said. “Right now, this early the three biggest things we don’t do too well is we are too careless. We’re throwing the ball all over the gym. We don’t guard consistently at all and our rebounding is poor right now.

“The positives are we’ve got quite a bit of stuff in, in a short amount of time. Guys are trying hard, are focused, conditioning is above average. We have the potential to get better in all areas as we tighten it up shortly.”

The Jayhawks are not as advanced as a year ago, the eighth-year coach said.

“Not close to being where we were at this stage after six days last year because we had Sherron (Collins) and Cole (Aldrich) obviously to go with the other guys. On the flip side, we see great potential. This team should be able to guard,” Self said.

As far as individuals ...

“I would say everybody has been pretty good,” Self said. “Brady (Morningstar) was the best one day; Tyshawn (Taylor) the best one day. The twins (Marcus, Markieff Morris) have been the most consistent so far. Josh (Selby) was the best player in practice today. Elijah (Johnson) has been very good.

“To me, Mario Little goes unnoticed but every day you think, ‘He played well.’ Travis (Releford) as well. Thomas (Robinson) has been the best in the gym a couple days or one day. Everybody’s shown potential. There have been no negatives (but) nobody is as consistent as they should be. Nobody has separated themselves.”

Self — who travels to Kansas City, Mo., for today’s Big 12 Media Day — said at last week’s KU Media Day that he’s fond of the team’s athleticism.

“I think we look short. I don’t think we look small,” Self said. “We look shorter than what we have in the past not only because of Cole’s length, but you go back to Sasha’s length as well,” he added of Sasha Kaun. “We’ve had two good fallbacks (for defense). But Jeff (Withey, 7-footer) will be back. It’ll take him some time since he’s been out a month, but when he comes back, he’ll be back. His length helps us.”

Nash to decide today: LeBryan Nash, a 6-foot-7, 230-pound senior forward from Dallas’ Lincoln High, today will orally commit to KU, Oklahoma State or Baylor on ESPNU’s college insider recruiting show, to start at 4 p.m., Central time.’s No. 4-rated player is the half brother of former Cowboy guard Byron Eaton. In the past, he’s called himself a heavy OSU lean.

Nash, however, reported “all the schools are (now) equal,” after last weekend’s official visit to KU.

“Right away he would impact the (KU) program,” analyst Shay Wildeboor said of Nash, who averaged 17.8 points and 10.2 rebounds per game last year. “He is the No. 4-ranked player for a reason. He has handles, can shoot, has driving ability. At 230 pounds, he is a matchup nightmare. If he comes in and plays to his potential, he’ll be a one-and-done player.”

Fieldhouse not sold out: Allen Fieldhouse is not sold out for the coming season, KU officials reported Wednesday.

“More tickets are available due to several reasons: Some fans elected not to renew their tickets,” KU officials reported, with the economy one possible factor. “Some fans elected to purchase fewer tickets than last year. Due to the new safeguards implemented by Kansas Athletics and Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little, Kansas Athletics now has the opportunity to put more tickets on sale.”

Season tickets are available (19 games Allen Fieldhouse, one game Sprint Center) in full packages and a pair of half-season packages. Single game tickets also will be on sale. Williams Fund members will have first priority.

Tickets have been available in past seasons, but this is the first time in more than a decade Jayhawk officials have reported the building not sold out.

Information on how to purchase several hundred reserved season tickets or many single-game tickets is available here.


jayhawks0034 11 years, 1 month ago

This years team will be a match up nightmare because Selby is too big and too explosive for most point guards to match up with. Also I'm pretty optimistic about Nash committing here. I know these ESPN announcements haven't been the best to us in the past, but its a new year and I have a pretty good feeling about this one.

KEITHMILES05 11 years, 1 month ago

The real reason there are more tickets available and AFH is not sold out is because the scum bags who were stealing thousands of tickets are no longer doing that.

The stinch left behind by Perkins and his cronnies will take years to heal.

Marc Frey 11 years, 1 month ago

I agree. Having worked in ticket offices before the pressure to give away tickets for something in return is great. I can not count the times people asked me for free tickets. I then aksed if their company had any "free cars, free medical care, or free product" in exchange. They left with nothing.

jaybate 11 years, 1 month ago

You are a breath of fresh air. Thanks for that comment.

Edward Daub 11 years, 1 month ago

I thought Selby was still waiting on the NCAA eligibility ruling. As for Nash, I have to pull a Sargent Schultz, I know nothing about him.

Robert Brock 11 years, 1 month ago

Doesn't matter about Nash - he chose OSU a long time ago.

jhox 11 years, 1 month ago

The only thing he'll really lose from the surgery is his fitness, and that will come back. He'll be out a few days, then take a couple more weeks to get back to his current level of fitness. No worries. He'll be full speed by mid November. If doctors are going to let him play after only 7 to 10 days, this is definitely not a big deal..

Dean Huggins 11 years, 1 month ago

i have to agree, jhox. i had hernia surgery a few years back and although the first few days after were painful & reduced my mobility, the wounds healed quickly and i was back in action in a little over a week. granted, i'm not a stud athlete and didn't face the daily rigors of a college sport; however, the medical procedure has advanced tremendously in the past 15 years and essentially this surgery is analogous with getting your tonsils removed.
changing gears, lebryan nash come on down. RCJH!

gchawk 11 years, 1 month ago

Soobawls, could you elaborate a little more as to why you think this will effect his ability to play the entire season? If the surgery is, and I presume it is, orthoscopic, then recovery time is minimal. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing, just asking.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 1 month ago

I think soobawls has a valid point. Our Hawks practice at an elite level that is probably more conpetitive than 75% of Division 1 playing regular games. Each person is different and if Markieff comes back too soon, it could become chronic.

I'm not agreeing with the word "will" but I am sure about inserting the word "could".

Martin Rosenblum 11 years, 1 month ago

Is Markieff's hernia a result of straining too hard to carry the weight on his shoulders to keep up with Marcus and still be only thought of as the "other" twin?

jcsmith 11 years, 1 month ago

Not to take away from Marcus, but I thought Kief was more impressive than Marcus at Late Night.

waywardJay 11 years, 1 month ago

'Kieff's a fighter. We need fighters on this team. Just don't give him any bb guns zing

Naw, seriously. It's good to hear this is minimal. We need him fullstrength and better to get this out now and hope coach is right about it not hindering him. I don't entirely trust Trob yet....All reports show him to be up in muscle.... but muscle wasn't his issue last year.

REHawk 11 years, 1 month ago

Wise move to get that surgery out of the way pronto. Thomas, here is your opportunity to work for ten days or more with the first unit! Down the pike, that experience might pay dividends.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 1 month ago

Big "L"...I'm right with you on this one:

1] The family connection is too strong to break. 2] "All schools are now equal"...we needed to be ahead to have a chance. 3] One big reason..TRob..something tells me he didn't want to fight this guy every day in practice for a year. 4] The "ESPNU Curse" ....Kansas holds the all-time record for finishing second. 5] Just a strong gut feeling we get Big Ben and lose Nash.

Andy Hess 11 years, 1 month ago

1 - Brandon Rush, anyone? 2 - says who? how do you figure we need to be ahead to have a chance? 3 - Robinson is a 6'9" PF/C post player. Nash is a 6'7" small forward. How would he have to face off against Robinson? 4 - I don't believe in curses. 5 - my gut feeling disagrees with yours.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 1 month ago

For all the angels in heaven I would love you to be right. Tell you what, I'll drink your koolaid because it tastes a hell of a lot better than mine.

Mr. Nash..come on down!!!

jaybate 11 years, 1 month ago

Where Nash goes depends to significant degree on whether, or not, Byron Eaton played for Travis Ford, or Sean Sutton, or both, and I can't recall who he played for, but I believe he played for both.

If Eaton played only for Ford, Nash is apt to go to OSU, because of the personal connection.

If Eaton only played for Sutton, Nash is very likely coming to KU to be part of the Okie Baller Mafia; that is a bigger deal than the OSU connection, unless OSU is planning on replacing Travis Ford with Scott Sutton, always a possibility and something OSU absolutely should do ASAP. An Okie Baller mafiosi coaching OSU would just about sew it up for OSU with Nash, if Eaton only played for Sutton.

But if Eaton played for both Sean Sutton and Travis Ford and feels Ford got him to the next level and so to the bones of the NBA, then I would give the edge to OSU, because Ford remains at OSU...for now.

Regarding the attraction of styles of play, a guy Self wanted badly, James Anderson, early on a more lithe version of Nash, proved Ford's system is just as conducive for show casing (i.e., getting them a ton of FGAs) players like Anderson and Nash, as Self's system, maybe even more so.

Regarding the attraction of the different coaches, Self seems vastly more appealing to me, but Travis Ford is proving to be one of those little feisty guys, like Billy Donovan, that appeals to something in a lot of players. Still, the edge has to sharply favor Self.

Regarding the attraction of the different teams and teammates, it is not even close. KU has lots of talent now. It is going to have lots of talent next season. KU wins conference titles frequently and rings from time to time. OSU wins conference titles infrequently and rings never in the modern era. And KU is almost certain to be the more talent-stacked team next season and, importantly, will have a perfect slot for Nash.

Nash would be a fool to pick OSU over KU for any reason but that he wants an offense completely built around him the same way Travis Ford built an offense around James Anderson, so as to optimize Nash's draft stock.

If Nash wants OAD glamor treatment, i.e., the most FGAs possible, then he goes to OSU.

jaybate 11 years, 1 month ago

f Nash wants to develop his skills to become the best basketball player he can be in preparation for the L, and likes winning, then he comes to KU.

Frankly, players that say the likes of KU and OSU are all equal at this stage make me think they've got their hand out, and are waiting for sweetener from a sugar daddy. KU and OSU aren't equal. Not even close. KU is a superior program with superior players and coaches and superior tradition and a superior NBA network, and a superior Okie Baller mafia connection, at least while Self is at KU, and a non Okie Baller coaches OSU.

If Nash genuinely thinks KU and OSU are equal, then it appears he lacks insight, or IQ, or both.

Or perhaps he's looking to squeeze more perks out of someone (maybe someone who once tried to add sweetener to our coach?) at the other schools.

Beyond the Nash situation, KU comes in second often, IMHO, because recruits at least appear to be using KU as a lever on lesser programs to add sweetener. No proof. Just a hunch.

Oh, surely not. :-)

Joe Baker 11 years, 1 month ago

There have been no negatives (but) nobody is as consistent as they should be. Nobody has separated themselves.”

Crap! I hope this changes. We must see increased consistency through pre-season.

If we do not see consistency or if certain individuals fail to step up when needed, it's going to be a long season. I don't understand how all the time in the gym would result in such a comment.

Heal quickly Kieff, we need you soon!! But don't rush your recovery either.

KUFan90 11 years, 1 month ago

Don't panic True. It's all just coachspeak. If Self said "our starting 5 have all separated themselves at this point and are clearly playing above the rest of the team" what kind of motive/incentive is that for the rest of the team? You have to give a vague answer like that at this point in the season...keeps everyone hungry.

FarSideHawk 11 years, 1 month ago

I agree. This is just coachspeak. He says the same thing every year, unless he has obvious starters (like Sherron and Cole) coming back. Even then, he is reserved in his praise to keep them hungry.

hawksince51 11 years, 1 month ago

Agree--he seemed to be trying to name every player as having the best day at least once. Then he backed off on T-Rob--was it one or was it two days. Maybe he was running out of possible days i.e. if he named 10 players as best for the day in only 7 days of practice... As Dirty Harry said, "to be honest with you in all this excitement I lost track myself. So you gotta ask yourself, do you feel lucky"?

Ron Franklin 11 years, 1 month ago

LeBryan Nash from Scouts:

Strengths: Nash may be the most physically gifted player in the 2011 class. What sets him apart from his peers is his combination of power and athleticism which makes him a difficult match-up for opponents. As one of the best finishers in transition he is fearless attacking the rim and has the ability to explode through contact and make the play. He has developed his perimeter skills and is now more consistent out to the 3-point arc and is a sound decision maker utilizing ball screens. He is still a load on the block and knows how to go to work. He also has tremendous hands and a nose for the ball when rebounding.

Weaknesses: Because Nash is built and has looked like an adult since he was a sophomore, the expectations for him to act older have always followed him. It has been well documented that the only thing potentially standing in the way of Nash achieving great heights is Nash himself. In the past he has a had a tendency to display poor body language that has sent up a red flag to evaluators, but blow-ups have lessened and he seems to have matured and shown leadership skills. It will be interesting to continue to follow his progress, if the light goes on look out.

Bottom Line: Nash reminds me of a Ron Artest-type with better perimeter skills. He will have a chance to be an impact player in year one of college and has the potential to be a short-timer at the collegiate level. He needs to mature and continue to round out his game, but his body-type, toughness and skill level are unquestionable.

FarSideHawk 11 years, 1 month ago

With the feeling that he that he is OSU bound, my Defense Mechanism starting in 5...4...3...2...1...

"Not sure I want this guy in the team if he has a Ron Artest type attitude problem."

Ron Franklin 11 years, 1 month ago

I'm with you. He is still a youngster, but if he has an ego issue, then that would be bad for team chemistry. A lot of upside though.

waywardJay 11 years, 1 month ago

Far, Ron's an interesting case. He went to an atrocious st. John's team that was coached by Fsquared.... He was on an AAU team with Brand and Odom ( two OTHER headcases ). Played for the bulls with Ron Mercer ( headcase ), Played with Stephan Jackson and Jermaine O'neal ( headcases ).

For most of his professional career he was a nutball on a team of nutballs. There is no telling how he would have turned out in an organized system liek ours our Anderson's at Mizzou ( Conditioned right Ron Artest would have been absolutely NASTY in the 40 minutes defense.)

Now he gets ut on the Lakers and he turned into a nutcase yet an incredible team player. He has actually rehabbed his career significantly from being the faceplate of NBA's dark days to GOofy aloof Champion.

KANSTUCKY 11 years, 1 month ago

...also acheived if you take your medication as scheduled.

mi_familia 11 years, 1 month ago

I think Nash would be an excellent pickup by the KU staff. I stumbled upon the following article and thought the comment posted by green bear was promising. I'm not saying that green bear is a reliable source, just found it promising. I'm not getting my hopes up too high, but I'd definitely love to see him wearing a KU jersey for at least one season.

Danny Hernandez 11 years, 1 month ago

Nash could and would improve so much more under HCBS than Ford at OSU....I wish Nash would choose Kansas but OSU looks like the lean for Nash...Unfortunate decision on his part but it's his decision.....I wonder if winning the Big12 and being a NCAA tourney favorite is in his consideration?

Brett Forreal 11 years, 1 month ago

Come on lucky green bear..... Let's hope this guy is legit and what he is saying is true.

Brett Forreal 11 years, 1 month ago

Naw, this guy is in it for one year...make a big splash and then gone to NBA if no lock out. At least this is the attitude I see from this guy. The problem is he might make a bigger splash at OSU, than KU bec. he is not promised playing time until he earns it from Self. He will be up against some pretty stiff competition next year maybe depends on who stays at KU.

Jaminrawk 11 years, 1 month ago

I can't believe any of these kids are considering Baylor after the scandal they are going through with the recruiting violations the NCAA is looking into. Not to mention the fact that they are going to be left high and dry when Scott Drew either gets fired for cheating or takes a better offer from a big school. OSU has family ties for LeBryan but why would you automatically follow your brother when you could make your own mark at a big school like Kansas and get a TON of more national exposure playing on ESPN all of the time liek he would at Kansas. Personally I think it would be in his and his family's best interest to play at the biggest school he can if he plans to be one and done. I hate on Kentucky but you can't deny that they get kids names out there from the start because of the name on front of the jersey.

That said ... I stopped assuming we would get anyone after guys like Beal, Barnes and Lamb all passed last year. Though I don't think Baylor or OSU is on the level of Florida, UNC or UK respectively.

jaybate 11 years, 1 month ago

"Thursday Feelling Coach Self Continues to Be All Over the Treasure Map about this Team's Gold Prospects"

~Self is acting like a prospector that feels the gold is there, but so far he hasn't found a speck of it, just signs that it ought to be there.

~Height Exaggeration:

“I think we look short. I don’t think we look small.”--Bill Self

Okay, he's buzzed about the rip-outs, but says Cole's and Sasha's "length" in recent years make this KU team look short. Let's see. Let's see, when the KU height exaggeration index is discounted Sasha was 6'10" and Cole was barely "6'9." But, but, but, Coach, Kieff is listed at 6'10," Withey at 7', and TRob at 6'9". Are you trying to tell us Kieff is really only 6'9", Withey is 6'11" and TRob is 6'8"? Well that would be about as tall as Cole, Sasha, the Bigs of the last few seasons, wouldn't it? Oh, no, Coach, you're not saying Kieff is 6'8", Withey is 6'10" and TRob is 6'7"? Well, we do live in the Great Stagflation, so maybe we should expect increasing exaggeration of height.

~Paradox of the day:

“It’s been good. They are trying hard,” Self said. “Right now, this early the three biggest things we don’t do too well is we are too careless. We’re throwing the ball all over the gym. We don’t guard consistently at all and our rebounding is poor right now.

Eh. those are all the aspects of the game coach and you're saying they all suck.

~Where's Waldo?

“I would say everybody has been pretty good,” Self said.

Then Self mentions: Brady, Tyshawn, The Twins, Josh, Elijah, Mario, Travis, and Thomas.

Where's Tyrell?

~There is a rumor going around that Kieff got the hernia cleaning and jerking Mark Mangino. The rumor mill also has it that KUAD is thinking of quietly hiring Mangino for a new, low profile position with the title "Director of Eating." Not.

~Speaking of KU's former football coach, Mark Mangino, is it true that UMinn fired Tim Brewster shortly after a story circulated that Brewster was considering retaining Mangino in some capacity? Just wondering.

chriz 11 years, 1 month ago

Anyone else getting nervous about Nash?

Matt Gonzo 11 years, 1 month ago

Not nervous......if he comes, fantastic and welcome.

He seemed set in stone to go to OSU and has now given us a look. It's hard to get young athletes to change ther minds......just look at Terrence Jones for example.

If he wasn't swayed by Late Night last week......he isn't Rock Chalk material.

C'mon know you want some.

chriz 11 years, 1 month ago

Well, you know me, I have a tendency to be critical of Bill Self's recruiting skills, at least in comparison to "the other guys (UNC, UK, & Duke)." As for Scott Drew, I can't believe that he's getting all the talent he's getting. And for that, and for the possibility that he's cheating to do it, I dislike him.

But I ask myself: Would I like him if he were at KU winning championships? Even if he had a huge recruiting question mark on his head and everyone hated him? Probably. Maybe not more than Self, but probably.

KU needs some talent. We should be getting at least two NCAA titles per decade. Hell, I'd be happy with one title per decade! If UNC, Duke, and Kentucky can do it, why can't we?

kennethst 11 years, 1 month ago

Am I more excited about this B-Ball season or seeing Jaybate's posts???

I can't decide.

Regardless....Good to see you, jaybate.....back and ready to go!!

kennethst 11 years, 1 month ago

Well.....what is the most likely starting five?

KuKain 11 years, 1 month ago

Someone just posted on Nash's ESPN recruiting page. It said....

"Looks like KU, too bad OSU needed him more"

Whether this is just speculation or not, it gives me some hope!

Chris Shaw 11 years, 1 month ago

Quincy Miller and Deuce Bello to Baylor!

Chris Shaw 11 years, 1 month ago

Miller and Bello is official! Nash is next to make decision

PAHAWK1 11 years, 1 month ago

another one of those ESPNU decisions

Chris Shaw 11 years, 1 month ago

At least he did a "Fake Baylor" hat. LOL! Grrrrrrrr!

hawksince51 11 years, 1 month ago

The drama was most underwhelming. Note to self (me)--don't watch anymore of these decision shows.

Chris Shaw 11 years, 1 month ago

Actually, picking the big, orange OSU Cowboy hat was pretty funny. That thing was huge.

Robert Brock 11 years, 1 month ago

He needed some big, loopy earrings to go with the hat.

Matt Gonzo 11 years, 1 month ago

I was surprised he didn't pull a.....I changed my mind and gonna go play for that slimeball Calimari.

Michael Bratisax 11 years, 1 month ago

That was a disappointment. Next year's recruiting class is looking bleak and with 4 seniors and the possibility of 2-3 undergrads leaving there are a lot of holes to fill with not much talent left available.

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