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Originally published March 14, 2010 at 05:02p.m., updated March 15, 2010 at 12:00a.m.

Jayhawks surprised by seemingly tough NCAA draw


KU players, from left, Marcus Morris, Mario Little, Markieff Morris, Sherron Collins, Jordan Juenemann, Cole Aldrich and Jeff Withey react to their NCAA Tournament seeding.

KU players, from left, Marcus Morris, Mario Little, Markieff Morris, Sherron Collins, Jordan Juenemann, Cole Aldrich and Jeff Withey react to their NCAA Tournament seeding.

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2010 Selection Sunday

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What do you think of KU's draw in the NCAA Tournament?

  • Extremely easy 1% 110 votes
  • Moderately easy 2% 164 votes
  • Not easy or hard 4% 279 votes
  • Moderately hard 42% 2449 votes
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  • Undecided 0% 49 votes

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Kansas head coach Bill Self discussed the team's seeding in the NCAA Tournament Sunday, March 14, 2010.

Marcus Morris about lost his dinner of hamburger and chicken strips while watching the revealing of the NCAA Midwest Regional bracket with his Kansas University basketball teammates Sunday in the Naismith Room in Allen Fieldhouse.

“The first thing I thought was, ‘Wow, are we No. 1, or is somebody else No. 1?’” said Morris, shocked by the strength of a regional that includes KU — the country’s overall No. 1 seed.

“There’s Ohio State and Georgetown and the only teams we lost to (Tennessee, Oklahoma State). That was tough to think about. I feel we’ve got a lot of tough teams in our bracket. But, I mean, at the end of the day, it doesn’t even matter. Whoever they put in our bracket is just another step standing in our way,” Morris added.

The Jayhawks’ first test comes against Patriot League champion Lehigh approximately 8:40 p.m. Thursday in Oklahoma City’s Ford Center. Winner advances to Saturday’s second-round game against either UNLV or Missouri Valley champion Northern Iowa.

Other headliners in the regional are: No. 2 seed Ohio State, regular-season tri-champion of the Big Ten; No. 3-seed Georgetown, which has defeated No. 1 seeds Duke and Syracuse; No. 4-seed Maryland, regular-season co-champion of the ACC; and No. 5 seed Michigan State, another tri-champ of the Big 10.

There are also No. 6 seed Tennessee and No. 7 Oklahoma State, the only teams to topple KU this season.

“After you look at the bracket, you say, ‘Well, I don’t think we had a lot of favors done to us,’’’ KU coach Bill Self said. “It should be tough. It’s why it’s your national tournament. All teams are good.”

Yes, but Clark Kellogg and the rest of the CBS analysts seemed to agree KU’s regional is the toughest of the four. They say the Jayhawks face more potential potholes on the road to the Final Four than overall No. 2 seed Kentucky (East), No. 3 Duke (South) and No. 4 Syracuse (West).

“Just looking at it from the seeding standpoint, I’d agree whole-heartedly (with announcers),” Self said. “We’re No. 1 overall. You’ve got the No. 2 seed that several people thought was in the conversation for a No. 1 (Ohio State).

“You have in my opinion a team that played unbelievable down the stretch. Any team that was able to score 91 points against Syracuse (in 91-84 win in Big East Tournament), you know they can beat anybody any night,” he added of Georgetown. “Your 4 seed is ACC co-champion, and 5-seed is Big Ten tri-champion.”

Still ...

“We are not even concerned about that. If you look too far ahead, you are preparing for something that may never exist. You’ve got to stay in the present, and the present is this weekend,” Self said.

And first up is Lehigh, which went 22-10 overall and 10-4 in Patriot League play.

“We’ll totally respect them because we played one other team from the Patriot League a few years ago. If I’m not mistaken, Bucknell was in the Patriot League, so I’m sure we’ll be hounded and reminded of that,” Self said.

Bucknell stunned KU, 64-63, in a first-round 2005 NCAA Tournament game in the same Ford Center in OKC.

What did that Bucknell game mean to KU senior Sherron Collins?

“Nothing,” he said. “I wasn’t here then. None of us were here then.”

Self said he’d have tape of the current darlings of the Patriot League, Lehigh, by Sunday evening.

“We know McCollum (C.J. freshman guard) can really score,” Self said of the player of the year and freshman of the year in the conference who averages 18.9 ppg. “They obviously are good and deserving. I believe their coach Brett Reed has been there three years and obviously has done a great job. We’ll be excited to play.

“Some of our guys actually watched them play (Friday). They saw for themselves Lehigh is good.”

Indeed, KU’s players caught some of the Lehigh-Lafayette conference title game from their hotel rooms over Big 12 tournament weekend in KC.

“They’ve got a good freshman guard, good players,” Collins said.

As far as the site ... KU lost a first-round 2009 Big 12 tournament game to Baylor in Ford Center and won three games there in the 2007 Big 12 tourney.

“I’d like to go play well in Oklahoma City for our university first and foremost,” Self said. “One weekend there we were great, and a couple weekends we weren’t great. I don’t want it to be distractions for X and C.J. (Xavier and C.J. Henry, who hail from OKC), and I don’t think it will be.”

If the Jayhawks win two games in Oklahoma City, they’d advance to the regional semifinals the following Friday in St. Louis.

While the Jayhawks admit it’d be nice to meet the team that knocked them out last year (Michigan State) — “We feel like we owe them something” Morris said — they realize they have a lot of work to do the opening weekend to advance that far.

“We’re going to go into every game and play tough and try to just keep moving forward,” Morris said.

Here are all the seeded teams in the Midwest bracket:

  1. Kansas
  2. Ohio State
  3. Georgetown
  4. Maryland
  5. Michigan State
  6. Tennessee
  7. Oklahoma State
  8. UNLV
  9. Northern iowa
  10. Georgia Tech
  11. San Diego State
  12. New Mexico State
  13. Houston
  14. Ohio
  15. UC Santa Barbara
  16. Lehigh

Comments

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

I did not realize KU had played so many teams in the top 50. Impressive.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Patriot League opponent, seen that before. Ohio State & Georgetown in the Midwest bracket. Wow, and Okie State and Tennessee!

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

Jeeze...Tennessee, OSU, Michigan State...they committee is really gunning for a KU rematch game, eh?

But regardless of that - CONGRATULATIONS JAYHAWKS! A well deserved seed for a very, very well played season thus far.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Of course, the only teams that beat KU are in its region. Also, Ohio State scares me, but I still think we'll be partying in Lawrence come April.

nobody1793 10 years, 2 months ago

I see a lot of tough games in our future.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

This is the reward we get for the first overall seed? Ohio State is the best 2nd seed. Remember if Evan Turner doesn't get hurt they're probably a #1 seed.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Wow, the West Region is freaking easy. I'm choosing K-State out of that region.

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

KSU has a lot better bracket than we do. That's pretty ridiculous.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

K-State draws the West bracket with Syracuse. Well if KU meets K-State again it will be just a Final Four matchup and not the title game.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Agreed, MrPilot. I was praying for Purdue as the Midwest 2-seed, but that would have been a miracle. I never imagined OSU, unless it all came down to location (i.e. put a Midwestern team in the Midwest region) rather than performance.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Hmmmm, wonder if Tennessee St. is a killer B team?

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Does anyone know anything about UNLV or UNI? Didn't we beat UNLV a couple years ago?

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

We beat UNLV in 2008, second round I believe.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

Jayhawks beat LSU baseball again today!

newyorkjayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

is it just me or is Kansas being punished for no good reason at all? Tennessee is not a legit 6 seed, they could've been seeded as high as 3 or 4 as far as i'm concerned. Besides, them and Okla St are the only two teams to have beaten KU this season, and BOTH are in our bracket. Our path to the sweet 16 isn't all that concerning as a fan, but a potential sweet 16 rematch with Mich St isn't what I wanted to see. Besides that, Ohio St is the best #2 seed the tourney has in my opinion, and they're also in our bracket. G'Town and Maryland are also tough!

My fellow fans! Calm me down!

Either way, bring it on, as a die-hard fan, I'm personally ready, and as far as I'm concerned, everyone else should be scared to death of the Jayhawks. RCJHGKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Just did some research on Ken Pomeroy's site:

UNLV: ranked 37, lost to KSU, USC, BYU, and Utah among others UNI: raned 32, major loss to DePaul (very bad team) and Evansville

Looks like it should be an easy road to the Sweet 16, but I hate seeing Michigan State as a possible opponent. We snatched defeat from the jaws of victory (or something like that) against them last year.

Chad Hallack 10 years, 2 months ago

New Mexico a 3 seed? What a joke... K-State looks to have smooth sailing to the Elite 8. They did us like they usually do.

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

We got screwed. We have the toughest region. What good exactly is the overall #1?

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Seven teams out of the Big XII. Maybe it's just me but the "committee" put a big bullseye on our backs.

Chad Hallack 10 years, 2 months ago

Call me crazy but I can see K-State and Baylor with us in the Final 4

okiedave 10 years, 2 months ago

Appears that the committee is doing it's best to pass the love around and find a new national champion. But, tough games in our bracket will prepare us better for final four matchup. If we win the national championship this year, there will be no questions who is the best team in America.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Hallacek, I can see KSU but not Baylor. I think Duke will take that region. They have such an easy road to the Final Four - much unlike the overall #1.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

NewYorkJayhawk, my feelings exactly. KU didn't get the easiest route to the final 4. I think KState has an easier route as the 2 seed! Oh well, we've got to beat em all to win it no matter where we're seeded so lets go get em!

Chad Hallack 10 years, 2 months ago

ACC gets 6 teams in due to apparent secret legacy clause in NCAA selection committee by-laws

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Yes let's hear from Dan and find out how he pulled these brackets out of his back side.

Chad Hallack 10 years, 2 months ago

KU08-

I've thought for weeks that Baylor will be the "sleeper" of the tournament because they have all the pieces to make a serious run. Good guard play, a true scorer, a dominant post defender to go along with strong team D complimented by good athleticism and length... I would take Baylor over Dook any day. Dook is a one dimentional offensive team, if they don't hit 3's they're done and lack consistent defense, especially in the paint. I will have Baylor by 10 if it comes down to it.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

I really hope we face Maryland in the Sweet 16 instead of Michigan State. Something about Tom Izzo's team in March scares me.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Tell me Lehigh does not run the Princeton system!

newyorkjayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

There had to have been some Duke grads on the committee, cuz Baylor and Purdue aren't very indicative of members of the 8 best teams below them. Either way, some have said it already, but Davidson, in my mind was a terrifying team in '08, UNLV was tougher two years ago, Maryland is very tough, but they only one player and unless his name is James Anderson, it'll take more than that to scare me. Granted Okla St IS in our bracket, but i doubt we'll have as bad a first half a second time as we did in Okla St last month.

I'm pretty curious as I do honestly feel that this is the toughest bracket, but there's not a team in the bracket that qualifies as a top tier contender the way that Kansas, Syracuse and Kentucky have stood for throughout the season. Kentucky can't avoid these OT knockout punches forever, so they're waivering, and Syracuse just lost their prime post player (Onuaku)... We are the premier team in the nation, and we're playing with the grit necessary to back that up...

Here's to hoping we'll continue that aggressiveness and bring home another championship.

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

Syracuse lost to Le Moyne, Clark Kellogg. That's why they aren't a #1 seed. Le Moyne.

Let me say that again. Le. Moyne.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Hallacek... I hope you're right. I do see the Elite Eight matchup between Duke and Baylor, but I give the edge to Duke.With the emergence of Zoubek and Plumlee in Duke's interior combined with its three offensive weapons, I can't see Baylor hanging with them.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

Calm it down. Ohio St., GTown, Tennessee, Ok St. etc. are all playing for one chance to play us, so who cares, the Elite 8 was going to be tough. Our road to that point is actually pretty easy compared to others'.

The CBS incompetence is overwhelming already. "Baylor, are they going to get in?" Idiots.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

I didn't hear, where did Carolina go?
Mississippi St. beats Fl in the SEC tournament, nearly knocks off Kentucky twice, so they pick ....Florida.
Jim Nantz just mentioned we're in the toughest bracket.

hawkbono1313 10 years, 2 months ago

BYU over Kansas State. Hawks all the way

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

newyorkjayhawk... thank you for bringing me a slight sense of calm.

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

Oh wait, Syracuse did get a #1. Eh, they still didn't deserve it.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 2 months ago

Relax everyone,

Sweet Sixteen...no problem. 3rd round - Maryland is another over-rated ACC team. 4th round - Ohio State and Georgetown will beat the piss out of each other, with the survivor barely able to limp on the court. Besides, since it's in St.Louis, they will win

jhawkshocker 10 years, 2 months ago

Northern Iowa is no easy out, an experienced team that has been playing together for at least 2 years. But then, there are no easy outs. Go Jayhawks!!!

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

Well my god...I wonder who was on the bubble for One Shining Moment? Elton John? Billy Joel? T-Payne?

Dirk Andrews 10 years, 2 months ago

Can Texas do some of our dirty work early with UK? That will be a great game. I think we drew the hardest bracket, but regarless of that we can still get all these teams. We are going to have to be Big 10 killers I guess. I second the comment about the number of teams from the ACC, a pretty ridiculous bias. I'll be rooting for Big XII teams throughout until we come up against one.

Ben Kane 10 years, 2 months ago

i have kansas, wvu, kstink, and baylor in the final four. we have a really tough path and will have a really hard elite 8 game (yes, they are all hard at that point) against georgetown i think.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

Luther Vandros or....Jennifer Hudson? Really?? I hate you CBS. Take CSI Miami and David Curuso with you.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

Bilas just mentioned we're in the toughest region too.

Maurice E. King III 10 years, 2 months ago

Northern Iowa will test KU's three point defense. Not a good matchup.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

No kidding, MrPilot and trueblue9. I forgot Luther Vandross died last year. Jennifer Hudson... I'll admit, I've never heard a single song by her before but that's not going to stop me from saying what a horrible choice that is. If they had to choose an Idol winner, they should have gone with Ruben (remember him? he may also be dead).

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

Vitale just said we're in the toughest region.
Remind me again what the #1 overall seed means?

hawk4evr 10 years, 2 months ago

Message from committee to KU: "We really don't think you deserve the #1 overall seed but we would look like idiots if we don't give it to you. However, if you think we want you in Indianapolis you must be crazy. Good luck with this bracket."

If there was ever a number one team that should be playing with a chip on their shoulder it should be us. Good luck Hawks.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

kcblkscorpion: Yep. And that was one of the things that killed us against Okie St.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

Wissox et al who don't like the Ohio St. and GTown draw:

These commentators might start addressing this once they get over talking about teams who aren't the tournament. Basically the problem was the Big East having so many highly seeded teams. There couldn't be a 2 seed Big East in the same bracket as Cuse. And the same logic for us not getting KState. Soooo, Ohio St. is the only one left. Same for the 3 seed, can't have a 3 from the Big East in the same as a 2 from the Big East. I guess we got a little unlucky that they chose GTown over Pitt (assuming you think GTown is better, I don't really know either way).

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

This Bob Knight rant is classic. He is completely senile. I will be surprised if Bilas' head doesn't explode.

Steve Gantz 10 years, 2 months ago

Makes some sense trueblue. The only problem is the Big East has so many teams. So those rules spread them out which is going to cause these "problems" that we're seeing here.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

81% of voters on the poll above think Kansas has a moderately to extremely difficult draw. Put me with the 81% (if you haven't gathered that already).

Darsves 10 years, 2 months ago

okiedave,

I agree with you. We do have a pretty tough bracket, and if we show the grit needed to win against some of these opponents and go on to win the National Title, then there's no doubt who is the best team in the country.

Kentucky is a really good team, but they have so many freshmen who are the main contributors, it makes me wonder if they'll be able to hold their poise on the biggest stage of college basketball or if they'll try to force the issue in some of these games and end up costing the team. Syracuse is one of the biggest surprises of the season since they weren't really picked to do all that much at the beginning of the season and with their latest injury, it makes you wonder how they'll be able to respond after their last loss. Duke I think is the weakest of the four #1's, but they got the third one seed surprisingly. Zoubek has come on lately, but I'm still not too sold on their inside game. The Plumlee's do sorta remind me of the Morris' of last year and I'm not too impressed with them at the moment. If one of their big three has an off night, then I'm not sure how far they can go. I just see Kansas having the deepest team in the nation. When you can have a kid like Reed come off the bench and drain threes when you need him to, or a guy like Markieff who picks up right where his brother leaves off, then you have a good chance to go far and be something special and they've shown it all year long.

But going back to our part of the bracket, it is tough, but the good news is that the majority of those tough teams are all crowded into the lower half so they'll have to beat up on each other before they even got a chance to play us. With Michigan State, to be honest, I'm not sure will get to the Sweet 16. If they do however, I think KU will take care of business and put them away in revenge from last year. I believe that in the Elite 8, we'll be playing Georgetown which will be a very tough game in my eyes. I think we can and will go all the way though and be cutting down the nets in Indy.

RCJHKU!

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

I think Georgetown is the team to fear. Their inconsistency was largely due to the fact the one kid was a walking time bomb with the undiagnosed diabetes. Discount that if you want, but the guy had to have times when his energy level was up and down. Now that he is diagnosed he will be on a more even keel and be able to sustain play.

CaramelMacchMan 10 years, 2 months ago

Relax people!

Remember 08 team? I mean we couldn't blow out Davidson. and we thought that was an easy game.

I think this team will play better with better competition in my opinion.

Mich. st. should be a motivation for this team.

If Ohio st., we have enough defensive power to frustrate Turner.

fisherhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Nothing we can do about the brackets now. Just go out and win 6 in a row and all is good. We have already done that a couple times this year. GO HAWKS!!!

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

I was in a bit of a hurry, i think the rule is actually a bit more complicated. There can't be two teams from the same conference in the top four seeds of the same regional (unless its absolutely necessary because there's five, i assume). Plus, I imagine that Ohio St. feels like they got screwed too, but also got somewhat of a reward by being in the Midwest, so the committee has to take that into consideration as well.

In any case, I think we got a pretty easy 8/9 and wouldn't be surprised to see a rematch with Sparty. That will get those juices flowing.

Ben Kane 10 years, 2 months ago

anyone know what time our first game will be?

Seth Peattie 10 years, 2 months ago

seems like the Midwest is the toughest overall bracket. no love for the overall #1. regardless. everyone not KANSAS can SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ron Franklin 10 years, 2 months ago

Shouldn't we be playing the winner of the play in game? Is it an unspoken rule that the overall number one gets the "easier path"?? Whatever the case is, in my opinion we have the toughest schedule bar-none. The committee failed miserably if the overall number 1 is supposed to have the easiest road...

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

I got KU, KSU, UK, and Duke in the Final Four. KU and UK in the championship, with KU winning, 79-74.

After all my complaining, I still think KU has the best chance to win. I've been saying for weeks that UK will lose in the Sweet 16, but I think they have a relatively easy road to the Final Four, albeit a touch Elite 8 matchup with WVU.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

BlownJay, the OKC games start Thursday. The play-in game is Wednesday, so the winner has to go to a region that starts play on Friday. That's why we don't get the play-in team. I'll take OKC over that.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

In my 6:38 comment, change "touch" to "tough". I was so satisfied with myself for using the word "albeit" that I typed the rest of the sentence with my eyes closed.

melrank 10 years, 2 months ago

Agreed - we got a tough draw for the overall 1 seed.

Is it just me or is Villanova the softest 2? How did Puke get them?

mjprcjh0314 10 years, 2 months ago

I always want the jayhawks to win the national championship through the toughest bracket and playing the top teams along the way, just like in 08 it was them winning with all #1 seeds, so I am excited for their bracket, no question they need to play at the highest level along the way to make it there!! Rock Chalk!!!

brooksmd 10 years, 2 months ago

I hope we get Georgetown and beat'em so I can tell Monroe's mom, after he calls her in tears, that he should've gone to Kansas.

Oh yeah, thanks for nothing committee.

KU08 10 years, 2 months ago

Vitale: "I think we all agree that the Midwest is the toughest region."

Finally, a comment from Vitale that makes sense.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 2 months ago

Don't ask me why, but I've seen Lehigh play at least three times this year. What can I say, it's Dish TV. Anyway, they don't have any Princeton in them. They have some athletes but generally play like KU, just not near as good. Easy win, as it should be.

As far as the rest of the bracket, we didn't fair too well. Ohio State was one of my biggest worries, they have Final 4 written all over them. I don't know how in the world they are considered the lowest 2-seed. No way.

UNI could be a tough game, especially if they slow it down like you know they will. Apparently MSU is in bad shape, so we'll probably end up playing Maryland. Too bad, there's no way we lose to MSU again.

GilbertAZ 10 years, 2 months ago

Kentucky has a much harder path to the final four than we do. Say what you will about Texas, but if i'm Calipari, I'm pissed. Texas or Wake Forrest in the second round? And Kansas gets UNLV or Northern Iowa? Not to mention West Virginia is the #2 seed in Kentucky"s bracket. I got news for everyone, West Virginia is better than Ohio St..

Mike Kendall 10 years, 2 months ago

Wow! KU is in the toughest bracket! When CBS first announced the Midwest Region, I was looking at the teams with KU--- Maryland, Tennessee, Georgetown, Michigan State, Oklahoma State and the other OSU, Ohio State--- this is a tough stinkin' bracket. Playing in OKC and St. Louis will help, for sure. You have the two teams that beat KU in the regular season. You have the team that bounced out KU last year in Michigan State. And a possible matchup of KU and Syracuse in the Final 4--revenge game from '03. But KU is playing on all cylinders, right?

I haven't filled out my bracket yet, but here are my preliminary Final 4 picks:

KU Jayhawks--Midwest K-State--West West Virginia--East Texas A&M or Duke---I will pick A&M

Good luck, Jayhawks! You rock OKC!!!!

brooksmd 10 years, 2 months ago

Where's UNC? They didn't get a reigning champion birth? lol

Lance Hobson 10 years, 2 months ago

At least G'town and Ohio State will beat each other up before we face one of them.

BeakofLight 10 years, 2 months ago

Agreed Gilbert, WestVa is much better than OSU...I have them in the finals with us.

Billy-Boy is looking dapper on the four-letter network.

My upsets:

  1. NMexicoSt over Sparty, then possibly over Md.
  2. Murray St. to the 16 over Vandy and Butler
  3. Gophers over X and into the 16
  4. Washington to the 16 over 'quette and Los Lobos
  5. Siena over Purdue (not much of an upset)
  6. Richmond over Nova to the 16

My Final 4: KU, Zaga, WVa, Baylor

KU over Thuggy to claim the 2nd in 3

Anyone else amazed that Zaga got an 8??? This is the worst job the selection morons have done in years.

To everyone asking why KSU got an easier draw than KU

Two Words: Tim Weiser

RCJKU

nobody1793 10 years, 2 months ago

"Where's UNC?"

Just wait til next year, when .500 is good enough!

rges 10 years, 2 months ago

EAST COAST BIAS!!!!! these brackets this year are flat out ridiculous! Syracuse final number 1 seed and Duke 3rd Number 1 seed BY FAR have the easiest road to the dance... just punch their tickets right now! I hate Kentucky(Calapari) almost as much as Mizzou but they got flat our screwed! I think that Ohio St. is a better team than West Virginia... i really dont like the Danny Manning reference to Turner... Turner is good but they are not the same player and this Ohio St. team has a lot more around him than Danny did. I think the selection committee deserves a swift kick straight to the nuts! they did a flat out piss poor job this year!

p.s. Illinois and Mississippi State deserve to be in the dance!

BeakofLight 10 years, 2 months ago

Possible craziness:

  1. Oakland over Pitt
  2. Okie St to the 8
  3. UT over UK (Johnny Slime has got to be furious, they got jobbed worse than us)
  4. Washington to the Final 4 if they could get by UK and WVa.
  5. da 'ville over Puke'
  6. the Utah St Aggies over the aTm aggies
  7. Siena to the 8
  8. Gophers to the 8
  9. et al

*all unlikely, but possible

BeakofLight 10 years, 2 months ago

FWIW, we got absolutely jobbed

Again, two words:

Tim Weiser

kubirdfan75 10 years, 2 months ago

This is how I see it ...... KU and Tenn in the Elite 8 with Syr vs KSU, Ku over Tenn, KSU over Sry.......UK and Marq with Duke and Baylor, Uk over Marq and Duke over Baylor .... Ku over KSU for the fouth time and Uk over Duke, only because i would like to see KU vs. the KUntucky wildkittens in the Finals so we can knock down the Great Wall

dynamitehawk 10 years, 2 months ago

I like our bracket. I like the whole dang thing. They screwed everyone but Duke, and that's ok b/c Duke really sucks. Let's get it on.

dynamitehawk 10 years, 2 months ago

There is a chance that Texas, Baylor, KU and KState could be in the final four. Awesome.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 2 months ago

Dyna-----Man, I would love an all Big 12 Final 4. I am rooting for all of the Big 12 teams to get to the Final 4. If it is K-State VS Syracuse, I am rooting for the Wildcats, although, we owe the Cuse payback for '03. Rock Chalk forever!

BeakofLight 10 years, 2 months ago

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

As much as i dislike Johnny Slime, you gotta give it to him, the man knows how to make cheddar.

Is the four-letter network interviewing Johnny or DTV???

Whats that you say Dirt Ball, I cant see you with that DTV logo illuminating around your greasy head.

Chad Hallack 10 years, 2 months ago

The brackets are what they. Bottom line is that though it is fun to discuss it, and maybe complain about how we seemed to get it put to us year in out. WE are the favorite because WE are the best team. I have no fear of Ohio State or Georgetown or anybody else. If we come to play, no one will beat us.

If we lose in this tournament it won't be because of Kentucky or Dook or Syracuse or anybody else. It will be because we beat ourselves. I am one confident Jayhawk today. Rock Chalk!!!

eastTXjayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Let's just win this thing.

FYI, KU 8 LSU 4 today. Two of three from #1, nice.

eastTXjayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

The NIT selection show comes on in 30 minutes, is there a camera team set up in Chapel Hill? ;-)

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Listen up folks!

KU clearly must have pissed the UCLA Athletic Director off (he was the Selection Committee chairman). It is beyond comprehension as to how that Midwest bracket was chosen. If I've counted it correctly, the midwest bracket has 7 of the ESPN/Coaches poll top 25! That top 25 includes the 25th ranked team in that poll in Northern Iowa that could very well be a second round opponent. Explain to me how a top 25 team is slotted as a possible second round game against a number one!

Here are those top 25 as they stood going into the conference tournament week.

  1. Kansas
  2. Kentucky
  3. Syracuse
  4. Duke
  5. Purdue
  6. West Virginia
  7. Ohio St.
  8. New Mexico
  9. Kansas St.
  10. Villanova
  11. Michigan St.
  12. Butler
  13. Tennessee
  14. Gonzaga
  15. BYU
  16. Pittsburgh
  17. Temple
  18. Wisconsin
  19. Maryland
  20. Baylor
  21. UTEP
  22. Georgetown
  23. Vanderbilt
  24. Texas A&M
  25. Northern Iowa

The last time we got the over all number one our bracket was pretty stacked. Anyone care to guess who won the whole thing that year? Hint, KU lost to that team in the Sweet Sixteen.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

And the winner is chuckberry32!

That KU team was looooooaded. The good news is that Bill Self will no doubt point out everything that has been hashed out on this site. You thought the season was tough, tighten up those jock straps!

Ben Kane 10 years, 2 months ago

yeah, that team was super loaded but you have to give it up to arizona. If i recall they were the first team ever to beat 3 number 1s to win it all.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 2 months ago

That guy from UCLA is an unscrupulous scumbag. He makes Blagojevich look like John Glenn. He put us as the #1 seed in the west in '07 with UCLA as the #2 getting to play home games against us. It was a joke. I can't believe no one has stood up to this guy and questioned his integrity.

Chad Sandwell 10 years, 2 months ago

texas will not be in the final 4.....so let's just end that crazy talk right now....ESPN is getting ready to make their "expert" picks. I would guess that Digger will pick Ohio St. and everyone else will pick KU....which is just fine with me....Everyone talks about Bob Knight being old and senile....Digger jumped that shark with his hilighter long ago....Overall I think the Big XII should do well in this tournament...For everyone picking Syracuse.....Onaoaku is out so Cuse should lose early.....Our road is tough, but we are tougher!

Justin LoBurgio 10 years, 2 months ago

Lehigh has a stud freshman out of Ohio, a pure scorer. I agree with the above post that UNI will give us a tough matchup if they beat UNLV (although I would not like to see a Lon Kruger coached UNLV team either). We will have to have our heads in every single game to get through this region. I think we will.

KSU and Baylor both got good draws. I see KSU possibly in the Final Four and Baylor making major waves.

Here is to Cornell knocking off Kentucky!!

I think we match up well with the other top seeds in our region. Ohio State would be tough but I think we have plenty to beat Michigan St., Maryland or Georgetown. Rock Chalk.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Correct again chuck. You are running the table tonight, something KU is going to have to do. But I go back to Northern Iowa, a top 25 team, slotted to possibly play the number one BEFORE the Sweet Sixteen!

1911sa 10 years, 2 months ago

final four - Kansas, Kansas state, Kentucky, and Villanova. just for S&G :)

diehardjhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

everyone calm down...we have the best team in the nation, we just need to play like it...i feel we are peaking at the right time so I'm not going to get all caught up in the matchups talk

everyone there are still lower level tickets and plenty of upper level tickets for the regional games in STL from ticketmaster....I just got my pair....the team will need us to come in droves as this most likely will be where we meet Mich St., G-town, or Ohio St.

STL is a managble drive and i just booked a room at the Super 8 for $38/night just outside the city.....C'mon down people!!!

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Well knock my socks off! Digger picks KU all the way.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 2 months ago

Damn, everyone at ESPN is picking KU. We need a reason to have a chip on our shoulders.

Chad Sandwell 10 years, 2 months ago

Every ESPN Expert picks KU to win the NC.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Dick Vitale just ejaculated all over himself talking about Kentucky.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 2 months ago

A lot of the ESPN experts are picking KU and Syracuse, instead of K-State. Hubert Davis is picking another KU/K-State rematch.

I am about ready to puke---Dick Vitale is picking UK and KU in the NC game---guess who Dick is picking? You got it---UK and John C. Dick said, "they will be partying in Lexington!"

Chuckberry32---say it ain't so?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fansincewilt 10 years, 2 months ago

The only decent team that Ohio State beat outside their pretty weak conference was California. They lost at home to North Carolina. I personally think everyone in the Big 10 is overrated. Georgetown will beat Ohio State and facing Georgetown in St. Louis is ideal. I would much rather face Georgetown than a K-State or W Virginia. I think it is possible that both of those teams will be in the final four. But Syracuse will have time to get healthy again by then and will probably knock off K-State with their zone. KU will dismantle the zone and head to the championship game. Overall, I think we have a favorable road to the championship game. Given the brackets, I really like our chances. But, the other teams should be griping - not us.

Kit Duncan 10 years, 2 months ago

We're doomed! Doug Gottlieb, Jay Bilas, Digger Phelps, and Hubert Davis all pick KU to win it all! The only saving grace is Dickie V picks Kentucky to beat KU for the Championship.

I think it's time to bet Vitale once again to get him to sweep the court in Allen Fieldhouse when KU wins.

(Note: I still expect Kansas to win the Title... I'm not superstitious.)

Kent Wells 10 years, 2 months ago

Chuckberry: Game times will not be announced until tomorrow sometime. CBS needs some time to look at the games and figure out how to jackup their broadcasts the best.

fansincewilt 10 years, 2 months ago

Kentucky is not going to be in the championship game. The toughest teams in the nation are in the Big East and Big 12. But, I was surprised when Memphis made it to the championship game. The run to the championship game can give you quite a bit of experience. However, I will be penciling in W VA. I think it will be a Big East and Big 12 final.

Ben Kane 10 years, 2 months ago

Mike, a lot has to happen before anybody makes it to the national championship game. We will have our tests and Ky will have theirs. If it makes you feel better I have KU over WVU for the national championship game. Though in all honestly I'd like it to be KU UK because I (obviously not literally) want to be the one to beat them!

James122 10 years, 2 months ago

WOW!! Ru kidding me?? We get the #1 overall and we get the Big 10 Champion, The Big East Champion, 2nd in the ACC, and Michigan State.

Kentucky has it made, followed by Duke's Region and then Syracuse Region. We will have to play very well to even make it to the Final Four. I have KU winning it, but it will be a dog fight.

To's and FT's in the big game will have to be won by KU.

melrank 10 years, 2 months ago

I like our first weekend match-ups.

The other #1s don't have a gimme on the 2nd day. I would not like to play Texas, Gonzaga, or Louisville just to make the Sweet 16. Ouch.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago

The seeding process is a joke -- we got the second toughest #2, and I'd take any other the toughest 3, 4, and 5s .. meaning I'd trade out any other 3 , 4, or 5 for who we got. Not to mention a #6 and #7 that beat us. It is just a joke. Not so sure what being the overall number 1 got us. And we get the second best team on our side of the bracket (Syracuse).

Kentucky's bracket is a joke, other than West Va., as is Duke's. I'd trade out in a minute.

Unbelievable.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago

Melrank: I hope you don't think UNI is a gimme. They'll smoke UNLV.

Mike Kendall 10 years, 2 months ago

lighthawk--- What else do Vitale and John Wall do together?

Chuck--- Thanks for the encouragement---in all honesty, I was being sarcastic! I don't think UK will make it to the Final 4. And, I agree with you on a lot of things---chalk another agreement---I agree it will be KU and W.VA. for the Final.

RE: The NIT Selection Show---North Carolina gets a bid. They are happy that they might up their 2001 win total. But they have to play on the road---can't remember who they play. They haven't been a good road team. I wonder if they were one of the last teams selected to the NIT---LOL!

melrank 10 years, 2 months ago

HEM - nope, no gimmes this time a year, but I'd rather have UNI or UNLV than either of the other three.

Personally, I throw the macho stuff in the trash and say "gimme a bracket full of upsets so we can have an easy path to the title game". There's no prizes for the toughest schedule.

lovemyhawks 10 years, 2 months ago

i'm not at all pleased with our region and certainly wondering what good the #1 overall seed did for us. nothing, that i can see! wow...... it's going to be a tough ride but we can do it....... we can beat ANYONE if we come to play ball and play tough for 40 minutes!! northern iowa scares me a bit and georgetown scares me more than that but we can do it. i bet we play the first game of the tournament around the 11 am time frame on thursday but could be wrong...... that's what i've been planning for anyway. we have to prove dicky baby wrong....... and prove the others are right and that we ARE the best in the country. we all know we are when we want to show it and hopefully sherron will pump em all up and we'll be ready. i think we got screwed but hawks can handle it!! ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK for 6 more games!!!!!

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago

Melrank: I agree .. give me Murray St. any day of the week.

lovemyhawks 10 years, 2 months ago

north carolina is a 4 seed playing wm and mary but think we were acting like they shouldn't have been invited at all and could easily lose first round!! probably the best field of NAMES that the NIT has seen in a long time. texas tech also in.

Ben Kane 10 years, 2 months ago

the number one seed got OKC and STL and that's all that mattered to me. The seeding is kinda like dumb luck.

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

Quit your frickin' whining, fans! You play the hand you're dealt. Period. If you're good enough to win the whole thing, who cares who is in the way?

MrPilot 10 years, 2 months ago

Very true, KU. We just gotta take care of business and do what we gotta do. Show them all it doesn't matter what obstacles they put in our way, we ARE the best team in the country. And that will be proven when we cut down the nets in Indy.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

Mike Gammill 10 years, 2 months ago

Take heart gang. If we play solid, consistent ball, I believe the Jays will be all right. What we need to guard against though, is teams that come right at our big men. Morris could be on the bench within 5 minutes saddled with fouls if he's not careful. Ditto for Aldrich, although he's not quite as prone. The other thing is, if we see a zone defense that guards the 3 point circle well. We are on a bit of shaky ground if we have to rely too heavily on outside shooting.

We just need to get hungry. Once we get somebody down, we need to put our foot on their neck and put them away. I hope we can do that. The national media needs to receive a big message from us, and we need to show them what KU and the Big 12 are made of. A couple of 35 point wins in the early rounds would be a great start!

Mike Kendall 10 years, 2 months ago

KU--- It's not whining---it's debating, and, this is what makes the Big Dance such a great event! After all the debating, ur, in your case, whining, is done come Thursday morning, let's play the games and let the scoreboard do the talking. This is the best sporting event ever!!! Rock Chalk Jayhawks!

Mike Kendall 10 years, 2 months ago

KU--- It's not whining---it's debating, and, this is what makes the Big Dance such a great event! After all the debating, ur, in your case, whining, is done come Thursday morning, let's play the games and let the scoreboard do the talking. This is the best sporting event ever!!! Rock Chalk Jayhawks!

hawken123 10 years, 2 months ago

We don't have to play Tenn, OK St., Georgetown and Ohio St., we only have to play one of them. The last game before the final four will be tough, but it will be tough for every team. Until then, our bracket looks pretty good.

newyorkjayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

You know, this is my third post tonight, and each time I'm getting more and more confident. Tough region? absolutely, no doubt. Toughest region? without question in my mind. However, Self said something about that in his press conference... something to the extend of a) every coach has some reason to say that they got the short straw on the tournament breakdown, so there's no reason to necessarily feel that KU was antagonized more than anyone else and b) that even if KU got the toughest road to the final four of all the #1 seeds, it hopefully won't matter because this team is hopefully battle tested enough to be able to withstand the blows that any of our region's talent would send our way.

Look at this... I looked at Kansas, Syracuse, Kentucky, and Duke... each of their schedules and counted how many games were played against tourney-bound teams... ready? KU = 15. Syracuse = 14. Duke = 9. Kentucky = 8. Ok... it gets better... Syracuse went 10-4 in those 14 games. Duke went 5-4. Kentucky went 7-1. Kansas? we went 13-2.

Percentage-wise against those teams that made the tourney, UK wins it 87%, while Kansas was 86% against their tourney-worthy opponents. However, Kansas had a much higher percentage of games in that department that were true road games. Otherwise, the other #1 seeds didn't fair NEARLY as well against tourney bound teams. Battle tested? I'd say so. Beating a 2 seed three times this season? no one else can say that. no one can even say they defeated a 5 seed twice. 15 games against tourney bound opponents and to only lose 2, both of which true road games.

That's an unreal record and a VERY difficult schedule. I don't care what anybody says, this is as battle-tested as I've ever seen a team be come tourney time. And not only have we been battle tested, but we've succeeded in those battles... 32-2... tied for the least amount of losses, and with one of the hardest schedules the country had put together.

The fact that HCBS is taking this tourney two games at a time... one weekend at a time... the fact that he'll be studying tape on Lehigh instead of complaining of the 2-seed draw like Calipari will be about WVa... that's why we're successful in our battles, while UK had to go OT against Stanford and couldn't handle SCarolina on the road... and that's why we have the best chance to win this thing... c'mon 'Hawks... turn off the cell phones, turn out your bedside lamps at a decent hour, study the scouting reports like you would a midterm exam, and come to practice ready to play... if we're focused, there's no reason why we won't win #2 in three years... Rock Chalk Jayhawk Go KU.

DDSF 10 years, 2 months ago

I think the committee has a sick sense of humor. Not only putting both teams that beat KU in the same region (not that I think either will make it to play in the elite 8), but putting Michigan State and Maryland (2002) up there also is just ridiculous.

Then you have Syracuse vs. Vermont (last time Vermont was in was when they beat 'Cuse in the first round) and a potential for 3 different Big East matchups in the second weekend.

I dont think I will ever understand how the committee works, but they did get one thing right. KU belongs in Oklahoma City and St. Louis. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

lovemyhawks 10 years, 2 months ago

hey i was wrong and i'm quite surprised but pleased. 8:40 pm instead of 11 am....... great news!! yes, truly no need to complain now, there's no changing what is ahead. i think the bracket stinks but we'll take what we are dealt and prove we are the best through the toughest road. hawks can do it!! i'm ready for the ride!

gardenjay 10 years, 2 months ago

If there really is an advantage to being the #1 overall seed, then someone tell me what that advantage is.

This bracket-racket is akin to choosing a winner. Did other people feel like Duke was going to be in the final four, even like 2 weeks ago? Can't you just smell it? Personally, I think it's all part of the east coast bias or mafia, whatever. Good job, mob. Mark my words: Duke in the final four.

Good luck 'hawks; don't Bucknell on us this year.

Hawktacular 10 years, 2 months ago

For those that don't like to go through life wearing blinders: a major component to winning a National Championship is the path you must take to get there. Our path is by far the toughest of the four number one seeds. The committee did a TERRIBLE job this year. There is no excuse for the overall #1 seed to have the Big Ten regular season (co) and tournament champs, the Big East tournament runner up and the ACC regular season co-champs as our 2-4 seeds. Not to mention our 5 seed is also the Big Ten regular season co-champ, and our 6 and 7 seeds are the only two teams to beat us this year. What a joke. We are still going to win it all, I'm just saying...

Ron Franklin 10 years, 2 months ago

Of all the teams in the Midwest, who shoots the three ball best?

Georgetown is really the only team that scares me.

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

mikendal......It's frickin' whining! "Oh my goodness.....what good did getting the overall #1 seed do us? Whah....whah....whah....."

It's all about matchups. Not who has the 16 toughest teams in their region. Usually some of the top seeds get knocked out before you have to play them anyway, so why worry about anything but the game in front of you?? In 2008, KU played the #12 seed in the 3rd round and the #10 seed in the 4th round because of upsets.

1) Leihigh--Slam dunk victory. 2) UNLV or Northern Iowa--UNI is the better defensive team by stats but they have only played one top 50 team the whole season! UNLV is 5-5 versus top 50 teams. KU is 11-2. 3) You're probably faced with Michigan St or Maryland--Both have severe limitations this year. MSU doesn't score very easily; Maryland is an average defensive team in a weak defensive league. Maryland is 1-3 against top 25. Michigan State is 2-4 against top 25. 4) You're probably looking at Georgetown or Ohio State if both advance--Both teams have scary-good athleticism. Neither is particularly good defensively. Georgetown is sporadic. Ohio State can be reduced to a puddle of goo if you can either neutralize Evan Turner or let him get his and not let the rest of the team beat you. Georgetown and OSU are 7-6 and 3-4, respectively, against the top 25. 5) Anybody's guess who emerges from the West--maybe Syracuse or K-State. We've beaten KSU 3 times already. Syracuse isn't playing very well and the Morris twins are good enough high post passers to offset their zone defense. Besides, if Onaoku (spelling?) is hurt, they have a very short rotation. Syracuse and KSU are 5-2 and 6-4, respectively, against the top 25. 6) By the time you get to the championship game, if you're still whining about your draw, you're an idiot. Just play the game and have fun and win it. Remember, 2008 was the first year all four #1 seeds made the Final Four and KU won. They didn't whine and they didn't make excuses about their draw.

Woody Cragg 10 years, 2 months ago

The only way we don't win it all is if we run into another team shootin lights out like OSU or Cornell did, I don't care who we play. The planets will have to be aligned just right for that to happen. But again it did happen the last time we were pick of the litter. I'm so glad we don't have to watch Roy ball like a pipsqueak Gomer Pyle anymore. I guess he was just gettin in touch with his feminine side. We take em one at a time, play the hand we're dealt, and we should be OK. This time of year everyone steps it up a notch. Remember all the breaks we got in 2008-Davidson, Calimari not fouling, everything's got to fall in place for you to take the tourney. Thanks Mario...AND SHERRON!!! He's still HERE!!! GO HAWKS!!! KICKBUTT!!! RCJH!!!

Mike Kendall 10 years, 2 months ago

newyorkjayhawk---great post and man, I am ready to play for you!!! Were you a coach at one time? What part of New York are you from? Hopefully, not from Syracuse. I truly believe the Jayhawks will be ready not matter who we play. Let's enjoy the ride! Rock Chalk!

Hawktacular 10 years, 2 months ago

A quick comparison, shall we...

Kansas #2 Ohio State = Big 10 regular season (co) and tournament champions, best player in the country, a likely #1 seed if Evan Turner is healthy all season, won 14 of their last 15 games

Duke #2 Villanova = Big East champions of nothing, lost 5 of their last 7 games...are you kidding me???

Terrible job by the selection committe for this and a multitude of other reasons.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 2 months ago

Definition of irony:

North Carolina reached their 2000th win in 2010 but won't be attending the dance!

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 2 months ago

Dear Dickie V:

Please beware of the Phog!

Yours truly,

Jayhawk Nation

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

Hawktacular.....Are we playing Ohio State in the first round?? Oh......I didn't think so. You can't even play Ohio State until the fourth freakin' round! Why are you worried about it? Why waste your energy worrying about what you can't control?

The chances are that one of the teams--KU or OSU--will lose before that round anyway.

minnhawk84 10 years, 2 months ago

Don't worry about the Spartans.....they lost to Minnesota in the Big10(11) tourney, for cryin' out loud. Minnesota! Watched part of the Purdue/Minnesota game on Saturday with another die-hard KU fan......we both got to laughing at how SLOW and PLODDING and AWKWARD both teams played -- we're too used to watching KU & Big XII teams play each other. Ohio State has been playing in a tier-three JuCo conference all year, and both OSU and MSU will look like it in the tourney. Tubby Smith must be suicidal coaching the Gophers in the "slow motion" league (and no, they don't play great defense in the 10(11).

It doesn't matter the seed, the region, or the ranking. Win and advance, win and advance......RCJHKU!

Larry Smith 10 years, 2 months ago

KU Gets to play in OKC KU gets either UNI or UNLV in the second round

Kentucky plays in New Orleans Kentucky get Texas or Wake in the second round

Duke plays in Jacksonville Duke gets Cal or Louisville in the second round

Syracuse plays in Buffalo Cuse gets Gonzaga or Florida St in the second round

Who has the easier path?

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 2 months ago

Jayhawks vs. Mountain Hawks Thursday night

Jayhawks vs. Runnin' Rebels Saturday

then Jayhawks vs. Spartans

then Jayhawks vs. Hoyas

then Jayhawks vs. Orangemen

then Jayhawks vs. Wildcats (Vill.)

then,..."The ball is tipped, there you are"....!!!! Another Shining Moment!

Jim Pendleton 10 years, 2 months ago

kuwells - Start times have been announced tonight. KU is playing at 8:30pm Thursday evening. KSU is playing in afternoon session at 1:40pm. Probably will get weekend times for second round in next day or two.

Also, don't recall who had the play in game questions, but I have responses. There is no guarantee the play in game winner automatically plays the number one overall seed. First, the play in game is Tuesday not Wednesday. Second, the team who wins that game generally is put into one of the Friday-Sunday brackets. They don't like making a team travel twice on short turnarounds. Since we are playing Thursday, that is why we are not playing them.

Yes the draw is tough, but I don't recall anyone saying our bracket two years ago was easy. There were a couple upsets along the way, but we still had to play tough teams. We came thru that ok. I like Coach Self's approach of looking at this in two game mini-tournaments. Best way to do it. We'll worry about St Louis games after this weekend.

Everyone make your travel plans, we need Jayhawk Nation in these cities the next three weekends. Rock Chalk!!

lincase 10 years, 2 months ago

I am trying to figure out the S-curve that the committee used. Weren't we supposed to get the weakest #2 seed? Also both teams that beat us this year are in the Midwest??!! All of the experts say this is the toughest region, so I don't see much benefit to being the overall #1 seed. I absolutely expect to see us playing K-State for the 4th time, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Baylor win through to the final four. That would be wonderful for the Big 12. Oh well, it is what it is, and I think we will get the job done. Two things that have me worried: everyone (except Dickie V) thinks we will win it all and Jason Whitlock of the Kansas City Star thinks we are invincible.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

Come on people. Maybe every announcer thinks that the midwest is the toughest region because it has the best team in the country in it. Think about it. I know GTown played a decent Big East tourney, but they were the 8 seed in the Big East. Ohio St. is good, and it sucks we got them, but as I pointed out above, that was because the Big East had so many good teams and they couldn't be in the same region. We'll be fine, we can't play all the teams in the bottom half, just one.

DENDK24 10 years, 2 months ago

I think that we actually got a pretty good draw. Michigan St. Is no where near as good as they were last year, plus revenge will be great motivation for Sherron. I'm glad that Syracuse dropped to the last of the number ones. That means if we end up playing them in the final four we'll have a whole week to prepare for the zone instead of only a couple of days if were to have met them in the NC.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 2 months ago

SI has a good story about the Midwest Region and brackets in general. Basically it says that the Midwest is the hardest and no one knows why so many loaded teams are there except the committee. They gave the committee a thumbs down for the overall bracket - strange match-ups and no consistency in their reasoning. Guerrero doesn't seem that bright, or he just has an agenda. In 07 he had us as the one playing in Cali against his UCLA Bruins - home games for them even though they were a 2. Very suspicious.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

Yeah, playing UCLA in San Jose, thats like a home game. Basically means that KU has home games in Minneapolis. And the committee has bad reasoning.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago

JAYBATE....

157 comments and counting ! We need your evaluation of the situation....and for you you to restore order here!!

I'm not worried about this bracket at all......you have to consider every single team a tough opponent from here on.....so in my mind it doesn't much matter.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

kenneth=jaybate, there's no other explanation.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago

PS-Everyone.....remember we have 2 great locations to play where there will be tons of KU fan support. So, I figure that will help even this all out and help mitigate some of the "tough" opponents. We will be fine. Why? Because...in the end...you know who the toughest team in the tournement is?

Yep....You guessed it.....KANSAS!!

PPS-Going to try a Dewars Scotch tonight......nice way to warm up on a cold,wet evening. Good Scotland weather out there.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago

Trueblue....

No way. On my best day....I don't come close to knowing as much as Jaybate on his worst!

I enjoy his posts......yours as well.

I have no problem with the seeding....especially as well as our fans travel and support our team.

What do you think?

KGphoto 10 years, 2 months ago

KU plays better against tough teams. And we get a chance at redemption against two orange zits on our resume. I'll take it.

okiedave 10 years, 2 months ago

Guys, if you want to hear some whinning going on just talk to the fans at Maryland, Tennessee, Georgetown, Michigan State and Ok.State -- they have Kansas in their bracket. Now they have a reeeeeeaaaly tough bracket. Glad we have the two teams in our bracket we lost too. Extra motivation and we know better how to play them. Better than facing an unknown. Ok. State doesn't stand a chance away from home. Hope to see K.State in the final four. We know exactly how to beat them.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

First, KU is right: no whining. KU must play the cards dealt.

Second, Slayr is right: bring on the whole corrupt east coat media seedings and let's beat them all.

Third, soobawls is right: the NCAA apparently decided to protect their and the network's on-going investment in the Big East and ACC.

Fourth, the NCAA and the network also apparently decided to protect their investment in Contucky's reputedly rogue season.

Fifth, the NCAA and the network apparently decided that if they had to lose any one of the Number 1 seeds to seeding bias, KU was the one to lose. KU's name can carry the early nothing seeds its plays. Later, KU's name matched with big media market teams, like Ohio State, Georgetown, Maryland, and Michigan State, equal good ratings. And if the NCAA and the network get lucky, KU will get beat playing one or two of these and then maximum draw is ensured for the Final Four.

Sixth, the word "seeding" should no longer be used and the term "RPI/market gravity ranking" should be substituted.

Seventh, the RPI and kenpom.com rating systems, if they wish to remain relevant to post season play, need to start including a variable for "market gravity efficiency."

Eighth, why don't they just play the games on round, banked wooden tracks and the guys wear roller blades instead of basketball shoes and have the crowd shout, "Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan," and add chasing the roller ball and then putting it through a hoop to the Madness.

Ninth, new flipping low.

Tenth, main question: Do the network executives literally sodomize the NCAA executives before, or after, the seedings?

Eleventh, secondary question: Do the network executives practice safe sex and wear condoms, while they sodomize the NCAA executives, or are the NCAA executives so submissive in their imagined black crotchless, latex underwear and black leather collars that the network executives know the NCAA executives save themselves only for their masters, thus allowing the network executives to skip condom usage?

Twelfth, tertiary question: was the real title of Stanley Kubrick's posthumously released Eyes Wide Shut actually "NCAA Seedings Wide Shut"?

Thirteenth, tertiary question: Do the network executives wear hooded shrouds and grotesque masks and was Bill Harford actually attending an NCAA/network seeding selection orgy in the controversial 199 movie by Kubrick, starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman?

Fourtheenth, tertirary question: Do the NCAA executives wear g-strings and masks and make the picks at a secret mansion somewhere near New York City?

Fifteenth, is there any reasoning person either on the planet, or in low earth orbit around it, that does not find the Midwest bracket a disgrace of the NCAA tournament and of college basketball?

Really, KU, I am not whining here.

I am just asking legitimate, journalistic questions triggered by the reported behavior of the NCAA tournament selection committee this year..

Really.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago

okiedave-exactly. Well said. That was my point too.

And yes....we will beat OK State. I was impressed with them when they beat KU. But I thought they looked awful in the tournement. I think those guys had the game game of their lives vs KU. Wont happen again. Pretty much the same feelings for Tenn. Kentucky absolutely destroyed them the other day. We would as well if given another opportunity.

I have seen Northern Iowa play some.....they actually scare me a little. Can't take any team for granted. KU fans know that from the past!!

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

Ha, was just kidding Kenneth. He's a bit long winded for me, but whatever.

I would've rather avoided Ohio St., but things always get tough in the Elite 8, thats why winning a title means so much. They aren't supposed to tee it up for you.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago

Trueblue-exactly....the tougher it is.....the more the championship means.

Besides...there are no easy teams in this field. Not any more. maybe in November, but not in March/April

sizehawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Hey, guys and girls.

Why does everyone seem to think that KU's bracket is so tragic? If we are rated the #1 team in the country, we are going to have to prove it someday. It may be a shame that we don't have an easy bracket, but then, what would we have proven going into the final weekend? We are number 1. We merely have to keep proving it, again and again. Beating KState's defense certainly demonstrated that we can develop the offense (sometimes on the run) and the defense (sometimes out of character - zone) to beat anyone, any time. Hopefully, we will not have a night when everybody is flat. I don't think that will happen.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago

Sizehawk is right and I have been saying basically the same.

Furthermore.....regardless of where and how a team is seeded......at some point you are going to meet really tough teams.

No worries about this. (Of course the Scotch is helping with that too, I must admit.)

waywardJay 10 years, 2 months ago

We are also overlooking one major factor of tournament time that proves real every year......

It comes down to having the guy who wants it the most.

Ladies and Gentleman, May I introduce to you from Chicago, Illinois.... NUmber 4, SHER-RON COL-LINS.

dchon 10 years, 2 months ago

KU got jipped = understatement of the decade

waywardJay 10 years, 2 months ago

you know what... I'm with those who suggest we need to play the best to BE the best....

IN 2003 we were a langford foul and some missed freethrows frm tkaing it.... and we had to beat Duke and Arizona back to back.... SImiliar situation this year.... but we have a tough as gravel, spit in your eye and then kick you in the groin guy liek Sherron... We have the smartest coaching staff, the best conditioning staff....

We got this. No worries.

johnnyphoton 10 years, 2 months ago

How in the heck did Missouri make the tournament.

Hank Cross 10 years, 2 months ago

I can't remember if it happened last year, but the was time when every year a 15 beat a 2. Go Santa Barbara. Ole, ole, ole, ole! Gauchos, Gauchos!

Lone_salina_kufan 10 years, 2 months ago

I dont think it matters who is in KU's way. Ohio State only goes 7 deep at most. They had one game this year where they only played 6 people, and the 6th man played 2 mins. They will be completely gassed by then if they make it there. Dont forget they needed a 40 footer to beat a Michigan team WE destroyed!! Then got taken to a double OT by Illinois, shouldve lost, and Illinois didn't even make it into the field. Our biggest worry is Georgetown. That offense has clearly given us trouble and Monroe inside with Freeman on perimeter will present problems.

Shoe in: KU vs Syracuse in Final Four. KState will kill the orange on the boards, but length really really bother Pullen and Clemente. They go 6'3 and 6'4 at the front of that zone. That will force the chucker brothers, as I call them, into bad shots. Praying Kentucky loses, and going out on a limb, but Baylor maybe the best team in that south region, especially if Dunn can string together a few good games

newyorkjayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

More props out to the Big 12... first of all, Johnnyphoton, Missouri got in based on some quality wins against the following: Old Dominion, Illinois, KSU, Okie St, and Texas. Also, of all their losses (10), only one of them was against a non-tourney team (Nebraska in the big 12 conference tourney). Otherwise, they went 10-6 in the #1 RPI conference in the nation, only got blown out by KU and Nebraska (tourney game), and otherwise, collected 22 wins... i actually couldn't imagine the committee leaving them out.

secondly, does anyone else realize that with Texas Tech being included in the NIT, the Big 12 has 8/12 teams in a post-season tourney??? that's 66.7%, right? WOW!

As for the Jayhawks, it'll be interesting to see the following - will Brady get more minutes than Reed? I'm an enormous proponent of Brady, but Reed is deserving more time on the court... his defense has been amazingly upgraded as the season's progressed and he's been much more reliable from the 3pt line and FT's. Also, people have called X Henry our X factor, but the real X factor in my mind is actually the Morris twins... not Marcus, but both combined... it sounds arrogant on the surface, but in our two losses this season, the brothers have totaled 16 or less points and 8 or less rebounds. Getting 10+ rebs from the two of them combined, and 20+ points from them combined would be incredibly instrumental. it'd take a concerted effort to stay out of foul trouble, crash the offensive boards for garbage put backs, and not turn the ball over. pretty much a combo of playing smart and aggressive. Overall, our depth allows us to play numerous styles, be it zone or man-to-man, or half court vs full court paces, aggressive and physical vs composed and disciplined... Self has led the fans and media to believe the formula for the Jayhawks' success is pretty straight forward... he hasn't been wrong yet, and I'm tending to think as long as we come out with sufficient effort, we will win EVERY game.

Ethan Jones 10 years, 2 months ago

Yes, the Midwest region has the toughest teams in it, but that is partly because Kansas is in it too. It is important to remember that KU only has to play Maryland OR Michigan St. And only Georgetown OR Ohio State. And that is assuming those teams don't get upset. The Midwest actually sets up much more difficult for the teams ranked below KU. Maryland, for instance would have to beat MSU, KU, and Georgetown or OSU to get to the final 4, much more difficult. I'd rather be KU playing Ohio State any day than be OSU playing KU. KU is the toughest match up for anyone. Who knows, maybe it will end up like 2008 and KU's path to the final 4 will be a 16, 8, 12 and 10 seed.

dchon 10 years, 2 months ago

eaj9351 - I'm hoping for that 8 seed as well. UNI scares me..

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Surprise,

DickVi picks Cal and Contucky.

His baldness is nothing if not consistent.

After not picking KU in '08, then snubbing our victory to focus on the loser, and now picking Cal again in '10, I can only conclude this is La Cosa Paisan :-)

waywardJay 10 years, 2 months ago

what else is new jaybate, Dickie knows nothign about Actual Basketball..... does that really surprise us ???? Even a blindman can shoot fish in a barrel, and Dick Did it last year with his buddies in baby blue..... i would not put any money on kentucky at this point... too many freshman, too many turnovers, and a ringing endorsement from a Guy who is best known for Hocking Pizzas.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago

Jaybate...so true. Did you happen to watch the UK vs Miss St game? The ABC announcers had a schoolgirl crush on UK....could n't stop saying how wonderful they were. Never mind they were .1 sec away from losing but lucked way out.

When will they learn?

Kelly Hanrahan 10 years, 2 months ago

If you believe the polls are relatively accurate, and if you apply the "S curve" logic of seeding the teams - you get the following results: Seed Rank Team ESPN Rank Last Week Difference 1 Kansas 1 0 2 Kentucky 2 0 3 Duke 4 +1 4 Syracuse 3 -1 5 Kansas State 9 +4 6 Villanova 10 +4 7 West Virginia 6 -1 8 Ohio State 7 -1 9 Georgetown 22 +13 10 New Mexico 8 -2 11 Baylor 20 +9 12 Pittsburgh 16 +4 13 Vanderbilt 23 +10 14 Purdue 5 -9 15 Wisconsin 18 +3 16 Maryland 19 +3

Kelly Hanrahan 10 years, 2 months ago

Only Georgetown, Baylor & Vanderbilt improved more than marginally over the previous ranking, and Purdue is the only team that lowered its' ranking more than marginally and that can be attributed to their injury situation. By the "S curve" we should have the #1, #8, #9, and #16 ranked teams in our bracket - Georgetown is the only one of these teams whose ranking by the seeding vs prior week ranking is substantially different, and if the prior week ranking was accurate - KU would be in a better situation as a result of Georgetown's improved ranking. KU should have the worst of the #5-#8 teams (KSU, Villanova, WVU, & Ohio State). KSU would not be placed in our bracket if conference affiliation is taken into account, and WVU was considered as a possible #1 per the committee chair, so we would get Villanova or Ohio State - their assignment of Ohio State is not unreasonable.

KU should be assigned the best of the #9-#12 teams (Georgetown, New Mexico, Baylor, Pitt).. If conference affiliation is taken into account Baylor would not be assigned to KU's bracket. Given how Georgetown played in their tournament this past week, I can see the committee saying they are the best of the remaining 3 teams.

KU should have the worst of the #13-#16 teams (Vandy, Purdue, Wisconsin, Maryland). Purdue's injury situation makes them an unknown, and the remaining 3 teams all have 8 losses. Having watched Vandy play against Kentucky, I think they are the best of the remaining 3 - so it is a toss up to me as to who is better/worse between Maryland & Wisconsin.

When you look at the committee's seeding like this, it doesn't look like KU got screwed by the seeding at all. Teams ranked lower than #16 nationally shouldn't cause one to believe one bracket is loaded while another is weak.

Arizona beat 3 teams seeded #1 on their way to the title, and in 2008 we beat 2 teams seeded #1 to claim the title. I don't see anything in our bracket to cause fear - we just need to play our game.

As a side note - several times this year announcers have commented that nobody had defeated teams ranked #1 & #2 in the polls for several years. In 2008, UNC was ranked #1 and Memphis #2 in final AP poll prior to the Final Four - we beat them both in a 3 day span.

TylerFrancis 10 years, 2 months ago

I would much rather play the best, to prove to be the best. LETS GO! Rock Chalk!

KUjhawk10 10 years, 2 months ago

5 teams in our bracket have already beaten a #1 seed this year

2 seed has the player of the year and should be a #1 seed( we should be playing the weakest #2seed (KSU..again) since we are the #1 overall seed)

3 seed just went to the title game in the best conference(maybe) college basketball and should have won-so they are hot

4 seed shared the ACC championship and come on at the end of the year-so they are hot

5 seed was ranked #1 earlier this year

6 seed already beat us

8 seed already beat us

We can do it but its gonna be tough..I'm not too worried Duka has easy street but will loose to either Louisville or A&M!!

YOUR THOUGHTS?

100 10 years, 2 months ago

Thank you Dick Vitale!!!!!!!

That's nearly exactly what he predicted for us in 2008, except he had us losing to Carolina!!!!!!

Kye Clark 10 years, 2 months ago

KU, the overall #1 seed, should have in its region the worst of the 2 seeds. That's Villanova. In every poll Villanova is ranked below the other 2 seeds and they were the only 2 seed to not atleast reach their conference tournament final. RPI-wise Ohio State is the worst of the 2 seeds, but their numbers suffer from losses when Evan Turner was hurt. Instead it's Duke who draws Villanova. Kentucky also has a gripe drawing West Virginia as a #2, being the second #1 seed but drawing one of the two #2 seeds who could have made a case for grabbing the fourth #1 seed.

KU should then draw the toughest #3 seed. You could make a case for any of the #3 seeds being tougher than the other, except for Pitt. Georgetown beat Pitt on the road, advanced farther in the conference tournament, and has a higher RPI. I think the committee more or less got this one right, depending on how sold you are on New Mexico.

KU should then draw the weakest #4 seed. Not really sure who that is. I tend to say it's Purdue. They haven't beaten a tournament team since the Hummel injury. Vanderbilt has the weakest (slightly) RPI. I think Wisconsin is the toughest, with wins over Duke, Maryland, Ohio State, & pre-Hummel injury Purdue. I guess Kentucky has another gripe here. Other than Wisconsin I don't think the #4 seeds are all that impressive. Maryland has a losing record against the RPI top 25 & top 50 and no quality non-conference wins (their "marquee" non-conference win...against #81 RPI Fairfield at home). No major complaint with KU's draw here.

KU should then draw the toughest #5 seed. IDK. Depends on how you look at it. Michigan State actually has the worst RPI of the 5s, and its not all that close (#28, next closest is #13 Texas A&M). They are only 5-5 over their last 10 games, which is also the worst among the 5s (next closest is A&M going 7-3 over their last 10 games). I guess it depends on how you judge Temple & Butler, not playing in BCS conferences. I still tend to think Michigan State is a tough team, because Tom Izzo is an experienced coach who has won a national title and they were battle tested in a tough conference. Again, just depends on how you look at things. It could easily be said that KU drew the weakest #5 seed.

KU should then draw the weakest #6 seed. Instead, it drew the toughest, by far. RPI-wise, not even close. Tennessee #14. Notre Dame & Marquette - #s 49 & 50.

And so on and so on. A couple of other observations. Figured the overall #1 seed should face the winner of the play-in game. Instead that goes to Duke. Something I'd love to see that is improbable, but would not be a big shocker, would be Texas somehow finding it's form and beating Kentucky in the 2nd round. Despite the tough road ahead every analyst I've heard on ESPN has KU advancing at least as far as the title game, with only that clown Dick Vitale picking us to lose against Kensucky

ParisHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Fun debate which I am not trying to close, but I just wanted to post Sherron's take:

“You aren’t supposed to be rewarded in the NCAA Tournament. That is why teams make the tournament because they are good. Everybody has a tough bracket and has tough matchups."

Charge, Sarge! RCJH!

ParisHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Here's an idea (am I the first to have it? No clue) :

1) The Committee chooses 65 teams, seeds them and puts 64+65 into the play-in game. It then decides which 1 seed goes into which region.

2) Each team in turn picks his opponents, just like choosing sides: a) KU chooses its potential opponent among the 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s; then UK, etc. b) Each 2 seed thens chooses its potential opponents among the 3s, 7s, 15s c) Each 3 seed chooses among the 6s and 14s ... and so on until the 8s choose among the 9s. At the same time, the 1 through 4 seeds get to pick their pod.

Choices would be limited by the rules the Committee has to follow as far as Conference matchups and the play-in winner having to play on Friday.

I am sure this would be wildly unpractical and unworkable, but imagine what a show that would be! So much pressure on the coaching staffs and so much second-guessing.....

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 2 months ago

ParisHawk -

Interesting scenario. I kinda like it!

But, if that were incorporated, then Jaybate's fantasy including sodomy, crothless latex underwear, etc. would become a non-issue. Then where would we be?

Kyle Helmer 10 years, 2 months ago

KSU will have a hard time getting past BYU in the 2nd round. They are VERY good! And I would love a rematch with Mich St. We have seen what happens when this KU team is "motivated"!

Ted Toulouse 10 years, 2 months ago

Just heard the committee chair on Mike & Mike and he said that when considering placement of the No. 2 seeds, the main consideration was geography, not placing the worst 2 with the best 1. In looking at this, I'm wondering if the economy didn't play a factor. If they were trying to get the most fans possible from the top 2 seeds in the region, then it makes sense that they paired OSU with us in St. Louis. K-State is going to Utah (not too far), WVU is going to Syracuse and Villanova is going to Houston (since they were probably the last 2 seed, they get the worst draw).

ParisHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

memhawk,

Thanks for the kind words. I too would never want to intrude on jaybate's fantasies...in any way, shape or form.

ParisHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

By the way, if my scenario had been played this year, Duke as the last 1 seed would have had no choice: they would have had to take the leftovers. Imagine seeing a helpless Coach K fume over the matchups the other 1 seeds foisted on him.

Marcia Parsons 10 years, 2 months ago

Bill can get all the information we need on UNI from Jank. His team played them at least twice.

Scott Perlmutter 10 years, 2 months ago

At least all the tough teams are on the other side of the bracket. We would only have to face Ohio State, Georgetown, OK State or Tenn in 1 game to go to the Final Four. Although I do think that Michigan State would be a real tough game if they get it together.

craigers 10 years, 2 months ago

I personally like this bracket for the reason that our team won't be able to take any team lightly. Our biggest struggles this year were against teams that should have been a slam dunk, or at least in the minds of our players should have been a gimme. When the hawks know they have to come and bring it, they do. It will be a good tournament and all that more satisfying when they win.

hellarockchalk 10 years, 2 months ago

IMO, the committee is saying, "KU, you are the best team you say.....prove it!" The committee is full of democrats anyway trying to sell a point that the midwest is full of teapartiers and don't want us to win anything including killing the ObamaCare bill. Well we will show those jockstrap lickers what Americans and Jayhawks do when they try and snub us!!!!!!!!!

Rock Chalk!

RomanJayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

I am sorry guys but I disagree with the opinion that we got screwed in our region. First, Lehigh? Really? Patriot League. Bucknell and Bradley are the past. Just like Sherron said, "Those losses mean nothing because I wasn't there. None of us were." Let's keep it in perspective. Second, living in Wichita I have watched UNI play several times as they are in the MVC with Wichita State. Wow! It doesn't even look like they are playing the same game. Sooo many missed shots and bad play. No worries there. Third, so what if we have the two teams in our bracket that beat us earlier this year. OSU will never play a game like that again and TENN is a good team but one that we could/should have beat the first time. Would you want to face a KU team that you beat before? I wouldn't! Just more motivation like Morris said, "We owe them something." Do we really need any more motivation? Then, we assume that we will be facing MSU in the Sweet 16. Okay. Gets a little tougher here but every Sweet 16 game should be. I think we are fortunate to play Big 10 teams in the S16 and E8. Talk about a weak conference! What is the average RPI of a Big 10 team? Like 98? Ohio State or Georgetown in the E8. Rather them than WVU. Maybe I am being naive but I think our draw is actually pretty good. Just my opinion. RCJHGKU!!!!!

86finalfour 10 years, 2 months ago

My real complaint is the time of the first game. I thought the #1 seeds play the early game, not only as a reward so the higher seeds get more rest, but also I would think the network would want the more competitive and more upset prone games saved for prime time (ie #8 vs #9, #4 vs #12).

I can't make sense of this. If it's so they can fill seats at OKC, that's pretty lame.

kvskubball 10 years, 2 months ago

Someone posted that the Kittles are 6-4 against top 25 teams...not that impressive, right?

Well, take away the three losses to KU and the Kittles are a very fine 6-1 against non-number 1 KU!

Our draw is tough, no doubt, but we don't have to play all of the other 15 teams.

I like the potential re-match with Sparty, we've grown-up, and they are in disarray (supposedly)...so if we go into the game to crush them, should be mission-accomplished.

I like the potential of having to play a short-benched team on the back-end of a two-game tourney (Ohio State), but my guess is they don't make it. I can see them possibly losing to either the 7 or 10 seed, and if not that, PROBABLY losing to Gtown.

If Gtown is on game, and we are, that will be a dandy of a game to make the Final Four!

But lots of work in the first week. Take care of business. Play smart and hard, don't overlook any team, and our talent will take us to Indy!

I like our draw. I also like Kittles draw, TAMU's draw, and Baylor's draw.

If Texas wakes up, they could send THOSE kitties home early...boohoo Dickie V!

Gasp, What a nightmare for all the Coasters if the Big 12 gets 3 teams in the FF! Sorry, but I don't see either Texas or Missou coming out of the East Region. Just imagine if the committee had put Baylor in the East, then we could have a reasonable chance to get 4 teams into the Final Four...

TAMU will have a very good shot at advancing to the Sweet 16 against a vastly over-rated Duke team - and beating them. The South Region Final could very well be TAMU vs Baylor! TAMU is tough enough, and Baylor has enough talent to do it!

Rock Chalk JayHawks!

Go Big 12 - make the Coasters cry!

kvskubball 10 years, 2 months ago

86finalfour...

The networks usually slot at least one of the #1 seeds in PT to show-off the best of the best...don't expect to watch a lot of that game though, as the network will very likely cut away if KU is smoking Lehigh...

I'm kind of surprised that they put us in the high-visibility game...and I don't see any harm if we also play the late game in the second round, imo! We seem to play better in late games...

kvskubball 10 years, 2 months ago

FYI...

I think it just sounds really great to say that "KU team gathered in the .....Naismith Room"...that says so much about KU's bball heritage...We can claim the founder of the game as one of our head coaches!

Chuckle, though...because he is the only full-time head coach with a losing record!

Kenneth Johnson 10 years, 2 months ago

Well, they did it again! I’m not sure why, but the NCAA selection committee seemingly places KU in the hardest bracket every time. And, of course, Duke got the weakest.

I shouldn’t care, because KU is the best team and should be able to traverse its way through the Midwest bracket. But it just isn’t fair.

The way it’s supposed to work is that the No. 1 team should get the 8th-ranked team to be #2 in their region. Which team was the second-seed in the Midwest? Ohio State, a team that probably should have been a No. 1 seed ahead of Duke. Who’s the No. 2 seed in the South Region? Villanova, a team that could have been a #3.

Duke not only gets the worst team in the tourney to start (the playoff winner, but they then get to play either California or Louisville in the second round (teams that combined for only 43 wins this season). By contrast, KU matches up to either Northern Iowa or UNLV in the second round (teams that won 53 games this season).

Then look at the 4-seed in each bracket, predictably the team the #1 seed meets in the third round. Duke gets Purdue, a team that had a good record until Robbie Hummel, their star, got injured, and now should be about a 10-seed. KU draws Maryland, the winner of the ACC tournament.

What did Kansas do to the committee selection members? Any why does Duke always get the breaks?

Ken Johnson (KU MS '70) www.hoopszone.net

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Here is the one absolute truth about our seeding.

KU will wear the home whites through out. Thank you NCAA.

Sally Presson 10 years, 2 months ago

KU does have the toughest region and I don't get it!!! #1, #1 should have some benefits, but going into the tournament, the mental attitude is going to be up for a fight and not thinking we've got the easier bracket. I know our present team wasn't there when we got beat by the B's, but I know Bill will prepare them for Leigh High. One game at a time guys and go out & get 'um!!! Show they committee we can beat anyone, no matter how hard they've tried to get us out. And Duke!! What the heck, their bracket is much easier. Bottom line--we can beat anyone, the Hawks are the #1 #1 and for good reason. This Jayhawk team is awesome and so much fun to watch.

Kenneth Johnson 10 years, 2 months ago

Well, they did it again! I’m not sure why, but the NCAA selection committee seemingly places KU in the hardest bracket every time. And, of course, Duke got the weakest.

I shouldn’t care, because KU is the best team and should be able to traverse its way through the Midwest bracket. But it just isn’t fair.

The way it’s supposed to work is that the No. 1 team should get the 8th-ranked team to be #2 in their region. Which team was the second-seed in the Midwest? Ohio State, a team that probably should have been a No. 1 seed ahead of Duke. Who’s the No. 2 seed in the South Region? Villanova, a team that could have been a #3.

Duke not only gets the worst team in the tourney to start (the playoff winner, but they then get to play either California or Louisville in the second round (teams that combined for only 43 wins this season). By contrast, KU matches up to either Northern Iowa or UNLV in the second round (teams that won 53 games this season).

Then look at the 4-seed in each bracket, predictably the team the #1 seed meets in the third round. Duke gets Purdue, a team that had a good record until Robbie Hummel, their star, got injured, and now should be about a 10-seed. KU draws Maryland, the winner of the ACC tournament.

What did Kansas do to the committee selection members? Any why does Duke always get the breaks?

Ken Johnson (KU MS '70) www.hoopszone.net

Kenneth Johnson 10 years, 2 months ago

Well, they did it again! I’m not sure why, but the NCAA selection committee seemingly places KU in the hardest bracket every time. And, of course, Duke got the weakest.

I shouldn’t care, because KU is the best team and should be able to traverse its way through the Midwest bracket. But it just isn’t fair.

The way it’s supposed to work is that the No. 1 team should get the 8th-ranked team to be #2 in their region. Which team was the second-seed in the Midwest? Ohio State, a team that probably should have been a No. 1 seed ahead of Duke. Who’s the No. 2 seed in the South Region? Villanova, a team that could have been a #3.

Duke not only gets the worst team in the tourney to start (the playoff winner, but they then get to play either California or Louisville in the second round (teams that combined for only 43 wins this season). By contrast, KU matches up to either Northern Iowa or UNLV in the second round (teams that won 53 games this season).

Then look at the 4-seed in each bracket, predictably the team the #1 seed meets in the third round. Duke gets Purdue, a team that had a good record until Robbie Hummel, their star, got injured, and now should be about a 10-seed. KU draws Maryland, the winner of the ACC tournament.

What did Kansas do to the committee selection members? Any why does Duke always get the breaks?

Ken Johnson (KU MS '70) www.hoopszone.net

Kenneth Johnson 10 years, 2 months ago

I should have mentioned above, that Northern Iowa is very good.

Since I live in Iowa, I've had the opportunity to see UNI play often this year, and they are a senior-laden team that has played together for four years. And they can drain the threes. They are much better than the Bradley team that took out KU in 2006.

So, the Jayhawks had better not be complacent and look past them.

Ken Johnson (KU MS '70) www.hoopszone.net

Tony Bandle 10 years, 2 months ago

ParisHawk...I nominate you for KU Fan of the week for posting at 3:51 am and again at 6:10 am [unless you are actually in Paris, France not Paris, Indiana!!]

craigers....exactamundo, my friend. Everybody has complained all year about KU playing to the level of their competition. Well, the competition is going to be top notch so I'm sure the boys will rev it up!!!

Jaybate...items one through nine right on the nose..items ten through fifthteen totally gross and totally hilarious!!

As I posted earlier..Round One and Two..no problem. Round Three Maryland over-rated, round four after Georgetown and Ohio State beat the crap out of each other, we'll sweep up the pieces of the survivor.

newjayhawk...nice analysis...my responses: -Reed/Morningstar probably 50/50 and that's an upgrade for Tyrel -X factor is actually Markieff..when Marcus excells, Markieff plays wing man, but when Marcus gets in trouble, Markieff ramps up to give us a fourth scorer and and second down low presence.

All my fellow Jayhawks, if we think we're screwed over, imagine what Buckeye, Hoya, Spartan and Terp fans are thinking.....CRAP, we may have to play KU.....S.O.B.ing Selection Committee!!!!!

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 2 months ago

“It comes down to having the guy who wants it the most.”

I’ve always hated that phrase. Do you really think anyone out on that court doesn’t want it?

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 2 months ago

This ought to help our chase of UNC for victories. Even IF UNC gets past Bill & Mary, Miss State will definitely be the end of the line for the Tarheels.

NIT Bracket 4

1 Mississippi St. vs. #8 Jackson St.

4 North Carolina vs. #5 William & Mary

innerspaceiscalling 10 years, 2 months ago

I think everybody complaining about our bracket should go back and read this part again:

“We are not even concerned about that. If you look too far ahead, you are preparing for something that may never exist. You’ve got to stay in the present, and the present is this weekend."

Self said it best. The brackets are the brackets. They aren't gonna change. No point and talking about how we got jobbed. And anyways, last I checked, we're the f'ing Kansas Jayhawks, people! We all talk about how we're the greatest team in the land, well now we get to prove it! I say bring it on. We got the overall number one seed because we have proven that we can beat anybody, so why would we want an "easier" road? It'll just make it that much sweeter when we're cutting down the nets in Indy. If the Hawks do stumble somewhere and make an early exit (which I don't foresee happening), then that's the fault of the Hawks and not the selection committee. They know they can beat anyone, so as long as they prepare and take care of business then it doesn't matter who else is in our bracket.

Mike Gammill 10 years, 2 months ago

I just have one question about the selection process. If we are indeed the #1 of the #1 seeds, shouldn't our first round opponent be the winner of the play-in game? Aren't they supposed to be the #64 and #65 seeds? Not that it really makes any difference.

Stay away from fouls, solve the zone defenses, be a little more aggressive with the fast break, and hit free throws. We'll be fine.

innerspaceiscalling 10 years, 2 months ago

Somebody answered that somewhere in here already, gammimc. The play-in game is on Wednesday, and the first OKC game is on Thursday. So we could have either had the winner of the play-in on Friday in a different region or a different 16 seed in OKC. Like the original poster said, I'd rather have OKC.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago

First, it isn't whining to comment on the apparent seeding unfairness. You work all season to achieve something, then you achieve it, and teams that didn't have as solid a body of work get your rewards. They get those rewards because of TV, or scheduling problems, etc. That isn't whining. It's fact. And it gets taken away from you for reasons that have no relation to the quality of basketball you play.

Second, it seems a perfect opportunity for coach Self to play the "lack of respect" card. And legitimately so. I can hear it now .. "you work and work, and this is what they give you? Do they respect Kansas basketball? As I've said all along, you only get what you take on the court. We have six games to take what is ours. The only important game is the game we're playing now." Etc., etc.

For a team that seems to lack motivation at times, this may have been the best thing to happen to them.

ParisHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

OakvilleJHawk,

Much as I am tempted, I am not going to move to Paris, Indiana even if it earns me a nomination as KU Fan of the week ! Now if I stay up to watch the first round game at 2:40 A.M. THEN you can nominate me :)

Jim Pendleton 10 years, 2 months ago

innerspace - That was me who answered that question about why we aren't playing the winner of the play in game (see my post at 10:56 last night). I also said that the play in game is on Tuesday night (ESPN 6:30pm), not Wednesday.

You are also absolutely right in asking which you would rather have - the play in game winner somewhere else on Friday, or playing much closer to home in OKC on Thursday where many of our fans will come see. I know I would rather be in OKC, not Milwaukee or Buffalo.

This is along the same line of comments made yesterday by Joey Brackets that occasionally some team who would normally be a 12 gets moved to a 11 so they won't play someone early from their conference. Then you also have BYU whose religion won't let them play any sport on Sunday, so they are fitted to a seed for a Thursday-Saturday bracket. Same thing happened to us in drawing one of the 16 seeds.

I agree with all who say it is time to stop worrying about how loaded our bracket is and be ready to play. I said earlier that Coach prepares for the tourney in three different two game tournaments. That is how we need to go also. We can't play all these teams in our bracket, so let's take them down one at a time, one weekend at a time. See you in OKC on Thursday. Rock Chalk!!

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

HighElite.....I'm sure glad Bill Self considers it whining. If he went into the tournament with your attitude and the attitude of a lot of fans that "we got shafted after working for the top seed", it would put his players in the wrong state of mind. We don't need any "victim mentality" around here. Play the game you can control--the one next on the schedule--and let the chips fall where they may. Seize the opportunity to have fun and show the nation we are the best team, regardless of the draw.

Darsves 10 years, 2 months ago

We're going to be just fine. Like I stated earlier, most of those tough teams are in the bottom half of our bracket, so they'll have to beat up on each other before they get a chance to play us. We're the best team in the nation and we can handle anything that is thrown at us. I mean, the only two losses we had were to Tennessee and Oklahoma State and the way those two teams played on those specific days, they could've beaten anyone in the country. They were both draining threes and shooting the ball incredibly well with OK State shooting over 60% from the field. You can't expect that to happen again against KU's defense and if it does, we didn't lose the game, they just flat-out beat us by having a fluke game. I say bring on the tough competition and we'll show the country that we're not ranked #1 in the country for nothing. RCJHKU

86finalfour 10 years, 2 months ago

high elite, "For a team that seems to lack motivation at times, this may have been the best thing to happen to them."

Amen, brother.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

OakvilleJHawk,

As Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow indicated, in extreme cases one must resort to vulgar satire as metaphor for the truly pornographic actions of aspects of humanity...to make a point. :-)

Kennethst,

As George C. Scott said in Patton, "We're going to grab'em by the nose and kick'em in the ass." We face the same number of noses as the other number one seeds. But I still say the noses we grab have bigger asses. :-)

Regarding Digitalis Vital, we'll have to cut heart out of his credibility once again, too.

Robert Brock 10 years, 2 months ago

I don't have any problem with how the brackets were set up except that it looks like Duke was given a load of cupcakes. Hopefully, they will still falter.

ParisHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

jaybate,

If you're going to kick, might as well have a big target :)

I must say I like all these "who cares, we're the best, let'em come" posts. They are a relief from the many angst-ridden complaints that preceded our frequent "spurts". (I may have written one or two of those myself.) I guess we've finally convinced ourselves that this team is pretty good :)

Nothing beats being confident except having reason to be confident.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Something is afoot. Along with all the afore mentioned analysis also consider this:

Out of the ESPN/Coaches Top 25 poll as of today, Midwest bracket has 7 out of the top 25. West bracket has 7 out of the top 25. South bracket has 5 out of the top 25. East bracket has 3 out of the top 25.

Adolph Rupp could not have worked the bracket pairings better.

My complaint is not who is in our bracket or not, it is that they are clearly unbalanced. This forces the Midwest and West (one side of the bracket) to play roulette while the East and South (other side of the bracket) can safely play the odds.

The best things we have going is that Self embraces these inequities, and his players generally take on the persona of the coach. But even so my head is still spinning like Linda Blair's in the Exorcist.

gardenjay 10 years, 2 months ago

ParisHawk - Excellent idea! The 'coach selection show' could be held as a kind of reality show.... the networks like those.

Steve Brown 10 years, 2 months ago

come get my farm as I bet it that Ohio State was too strong a #2 to be in our region.

Also, I have posted for couple weeks we want to avoid Maryland, Georgetown and MSU and figured we would have MSU or just one of these not all friggin 3 of them. I wanted injured Purdue and New Mexico, not to be. Oh well.

good news is anything of value needs to be a challenge and a struggle, we are prepared and ready, and the really good news is that we don't have to beat 63 teams to get to INDY just beat FOUR teams and we are in INDY where dreams may come. 31 other teams will eliminate half the field for us...so one game at a time... we aren't taking on the field just one game, just one stepping stone at a time, leads to promised land:

ROCK CHALK JAY HAWK GO TO OKC THURSDAY: pack the house.

Theutus 10 years, 2 months ago

While I think we definitely ended up with the most talent in our bracket, I still don't see it as a huge problem.

Most of the better talent is going to beat the hell out of each other on the road to playing us. All in all, i think we'll be fine as long as we play smart.

DCCuse 10 years, 2 months ago

Well, I said I'd be back here to talk about match ups after Selection Sunday........you guys got screwed. How can you be the #1 overall seed, lose two games all year and then get those two teams placed in your region? Then your 4/5 is Sparty and the Turtles, your 2/3 is Ohio St and The Hoyas....wow....

Although I do think you'll be fine I'm sure you'll agree that my boys look to have an easier road, but we're a) not exactly healthy and b) certainly not playing our best ball of the year. By comparison the 4/5 on our side is Vandy and Butler (much easier than KU), 2/3 is K State and Pitt (I would say this is a push, but likely a little worse for SU since Pitt has had SU's number and K State is pretty damn good....But the point is, the #1 overall should have the easiest road by far and that certainly isn't the case (altogether now, DUKE SUCKS!!!)....I'm not a conspiracy kind of guy, but I swear Duke is treated better - who the hell did they beat all year? Who'd they beat in their conference tourney? They leapfrog the Cuse and then get the best draw, too?

Anyway, good luck hope to see us play in the FF but I am a pessimist by nature. If AO doesn't get healthy and we can only go six deep I wouldn't doubt a second round ejection by the Zags.....Then I drink myself into oblivion.....

DC

wtarush 10 years, 2 months ago

Playing this tough bracket excites me! The Jayhawks play their best against the toughest talent and only flounder when up against mediocrity. HCBS and Sherron will have them bring their A-game all the way through the tournament. This is gonna be a great tourney for the Hawks, and the tougher teams they face will only make the winning of the National Championship all that much sweeter! RCJH!!!

GabrielMichael 10 years, 2 months ago

The Hawks are as ready and equiped as any team can be for this tournament. God willing if they do make it to the Final Four or the Championship they'll be even more so.

Go! Fight! Win! KU!

ku_foaf 10 years, 2 months ago

Oklahoma St and Tennessee being there is someone's attempt at making it "interesting." Both of those teams were incredibly hot the day they beat KU, and we were off. If KU is "on" then they can beat either one.

Actually, this is just a pretty tough field this year. It seems like a better than average overall record than previous years. Lots of teams with only 5-8 losses.

kdeutch 10 years, 2 months ago

Not only is it the exact same round in the tourney (1st) in the exact same city (Oklahoma City) at the exact time (late game 8:40pm start) against the exact same opponent's conference (Patriot League), but it is on the exact same day (March 18th)! Please do not let history (Bucknell) repeat itself!!! Beat Lehigh!!!

(Also, our last victory in the Big12 Tourney in 2005 was K-State!)

okiedave 10 years, 2 months ago

It boils down to this:

If we lose to Northern Iowa we shouldn't be national champs. If we lose to Maryland we shouldn't be national champs. If we lose to Tennessee again we shouldn't be national champs If we lose to Okla. State again we shouldn't be national champs.

Who wants to be accused of being a national champion only because we had an easier schedule than the others. Not our team.

ParisHawk 10 years, 2 months ago

I've had a few compliments on my "Coach Selection Sunday" idea, so here's another one for when they expand the brackets (which I would hate, so they WILL do it someday):

Only at-large teams should have to do play-in games.

Yes, I mean it: if you win your way into the Tournament, you earned your right to be there, you weren't invited in. Those who earned their way in should get the byes.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

Glad to see my previous post was overlooked. Let me correct that Top 25 and where they sit.

Out of the ESPN/Coaches Top 25 poll as of today, Midwest bracket has 7 out of the top 25. West bracket has 8 out of the top 25. South bracket has 5 out of the top 25. East bracket has 5 out of the top 25.

I still say Adolph Rupp could not have worked the bracket pairings better.

Mike Gammill 10 years, 2 months ago

myinnerspaceiscalling and jayhawkjim80,

Thanks for the answer. I'm just used to "normal bracketing" where the highest seed play the lowest seed first. You and I all know it's to weed out the riff raff.

I wholeheartedly agree with playing in OKC and St. Looey, good venues for sure. It would really suck to be Syracuse. They get the first two rounds close to home, then go to Salt Lake City for their regional. I guess it isn't all bad.

Like I've said, keep the bigs out of foul trouble, step up the fast break, and pressure the ball on defense, we'll be just fine.

bleedblue 10 years, 2 months ago

You should whine! Only 7 BIG 12 championships, EVER!. UK has (12) 30 win seasons(26) CONFERENCE TITLES and you think you are something. Keep drinking the kool aid! ! We will kick you feathery butt, if you make it!!! GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Too bad Xavier didn't get to go to Kentucky like he wanted. Calapari would have made him a MAN. That's what happens when mommy decides where to go to school....

jhokfan 10 years, 2 months ago

We didn't get any favors from the selection committee but this is the NCAA tournament. It's not suppossed to be easy. I wish we had a softer bracket but if KU is to win a national title they will have to beat good teams. Players being surprised kind of surprises me. We should fear no team.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 2 months ago

bleedblue: When I see your blog name I am reminded of an Alice Cooper song, "Only Women Bleed".

Dan Pawlowski 10 years, 2 months ago

BleedBlue, Win 52 conference championships then you can talk.

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 2 months ago

“Only 7 BIG 12 championships, EVER!.” - bleedblue

Ha, ha, yeah right.

7 out of 14 Big 12 conference tournaments is no big deal. 10 out of 14 Big 12 regular season championships is no big deal. 52 conference championships is no big deal.

My guess is bleedblue is 14 years old and polishes his musket daily because he’s blind to the facts.

Steve Brown 10 years, 2 months ago

Bleed, we have won our conference season championship more than you have yours by far. Hope you get the awakened Texas Longhorns, they have been sleeping lately.

someone posted the following: everyone there are still lower level tickets and plenty of upper level tickets for the regional games in STL from ticketmaster....I just got my pair....the team will need us to come in droves as this most likely will be where we meet Mich St., G-town, or Ohio St.

STL is a managble drive and i just booked a room at the Super 8 for $38/night just outside the city.....C'mon down people!!!

well said: If you want KU in final four, do your part, grab your pals, plan a road trip and get on line today and order TIX. Rock Chalk JayHawk.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 2 months ago

DCuse..hey good to hear from you, partner.

Actually, I think Kansas, Kentucky AND Syracuse all got screwed. There is a columnist in Kansas City who is claiming the seedings are racially motivated with the "white guys" of Duke being given every opportunity to make the Final Four while the true quality teams kill each other.

My determination is simpler i.e. more fannies in the stands and tooshes on the couches means more bucks for CBS. 1] Duke is a huge draw because half of America loves them and the other half hates them and everybody watches them to win or lose. 2] Your Orangemen will draw huge ratings from the East to combat the sucking ratings in the West. 3] Kentucky in the East is a preview of Wall, Labron, WWWes and Coach Cal in New Jersey next season, 4] That leaves Kansas..outside of Georgetown and Maryland, Mich.State, Ohio State, Tennessee, Northern Iowa, Oklahoma State are all relatively easy drives to St.Louis to pack the Dome.

As always, it's about dollars and cents...just like in The Godfather.."it's just business".

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

Oakville..........I know you were using hyperbole, but "Half of America loves Duke"? I must be delusional then because if more than 1% of the nation loves Duke I would be surprised. First off, 2/3 or more of the country doesn't care about college basketball. If more than 3% of the 1/3 that does care about basketball claim Duke as their team, I would be shocked. I think the vast majority of the country hate Duke, including me.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 2 months ago

Fair enough.....but you'll still watch to cheer against them though, won't you!!??

KU..I know where you're coming from...... even after Roy and Dean screwed us [which actually was a blessing in getting HCBS} as much as I was PO'd, I still rooted for UNC over Duke because I just couldn't bring myself to cheer for that elitist bunch of snobs.

I am a little surprised that Vitale didn't jump on the Duke bandwagon. Oh well, he has become a senile old fool of a shadow of his former self.

Joel Hood 10 years, 2 months ago

bleed is either an inbred idiot, 12 years old, or a troll.

Since 1990, KU has won the conference title outright or tied for 1st, 15 of 21 times.
I dare say UK has no such record.

Apparently, history, basic math and dental hygiene are tasks that escape the UK faithful.

jrbill67 10 years, 2 months ago

Jayhawks have best team, best depth, best coach, best staff & best fans. They are unselfish and are playing relatively close to home. They do have a difficult path but it's just going to be that much sweeter when they cut the nets down in Indy and beat slimy Calipari for another National Championship.

John Randall 10 years, 2 months ago

What the hell? The main reason the Midwest is so tough is because Kansas is there! KU will only play one of these teams each game! Each Region has 3 or 4 tough teams, plus a potential Cinderella. Ours has 6 or 7 toughies, but we only get to beat up on four of them, one at a time.

Let coach Self decide what will best motivate the team. I do hope to see a lot of minutes for our 9, 10, 11 players the first weekend -- not to rest the first 8, but to let them get a little hungrier! We have seen the motivation of "pine time" work for everyone (except Sherron who doesn't need it and Marcus who gets plenty with foul trouble). This week it wouldn't be punishment, just stock-piling some energy for the big push to come later.

I saw some significance in Sherron's reply after Conf Champ game, as to prep for the Big Dance -- "Get our legs under us, and get some rest." The legs I'm concerned with are his and Cole's. I don't think the big guy has completely shaken his respiratory trouble, and our heart-and-guts leader could use a couple less-than-30-min games leading up to Regional Final and the last week. Sitting these two 3-4 minutes of every 10 makes sense to me, as long as the rest of the guys stay even or gain a little on the scoreboard.

ROCK CHALK! GO 'HAWKS!

Hank Cross 10 years, 2 months ago

I think the Regionals may be tougher than the Nat'ls if KU has to go through both Mich. S and Ohio S. b/c KU never seems to do well against the Big 10 (with the exception of IU) in either the regular season or the Tourney. Even though G-Town is hotter, I'd rather take my chances with them than Ohio S. Then again, maybe the Gauchos will hook us up.

BeakofLight 10 years, 2 months ago

BCRaven,

Good post, the midwest also has 5 of the top 15.

Bleed,

Are you for real???

KU,

I think youd be suprised how many people like Duke on the east coast. Before everyone else caught up, the Rat pulled alot of recruits from the NE. Nevertheless, they are like the Yanks; either you love 'em or hate 'em. One thing is certain, Duke is great for college bball.

Speaking of Puke, I happened across another intersting stat today: the Rat is 72-12 in the tourney. As much as i like to root against the Rat, another part of me loves what hes done as thats virtually unparelled greatness in the modern-era.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago

DCCuse: Perhaps a repeat of 03 would be nice, agreed? Except we'll hit our free throws this time.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 2 months ago

Of course, Cuse has to get through K-State to reach us in the semis .. haven't heard on their center other than it may just be a quad injury.

Eric Meyer 10 years, 2 months ago

Average RPI of each region's 2 through 16 seeds:

  1. West ------ .5916
  2. East ------- .5892 3, Midwest -- .5890
  3. South ------ .5791

OJ69 10 years, 2 months ago

STUPID!! KU is no 1 not the last seed. they play against teams that have potential of going far in the tourny, this is fixed!

archercc 10 years, 2 months ago

I like how Duke got a region full of cripples and lames. Maybe they think Coach K is due a run since Duke cant do it on their own. I hope they get decimated in the final four to prove how overrated they are. Unfortunately that wont be easy since their potential opponent will have had to play in a real bracket with fully stagged, NCAA calibre teams.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 2 months ago

Oakville..

Interesting slant from that KC columnist regarding the "..racially motivated" bias toward Duke. Is that columnist on the KC Star?

I have seen the ESPN guys making their predictions where all four were in agreement that KU would be the NC. I'm not sure if anybody else caught what Bilas said. He was giving his opinions about KY and KU and said that he felt the smart guys would prevail. He was referring to the comparison of KY and KU but never actually named either school. Of course, when his prediction for NC was revealed, he picked KU. This obviously translated to his belief that KY didn't have the smarter players. He just verbalized the common perception that most people share.

Ron Franklin 10 years, 2 months ago

So, I'm filling out my espn brackets (as I sit in my Indianapolis hotel room.....that I arrived at by driving through St. Louis...next weekend our show is in OKC, so apparently I'm subconcsiously paving the way for our dear Hawks).

All five of them. And I can't help but choose KU as the national champions every time!!! I know they are in the toughest region, but seriously, KU is the most dominant team in the country. (I'm biased, of course!!) But honestly, even though are region is stacked, all of the teams are weak with the exception of Georgetown. I'm pretty sure they run the Princeton offense, and that always scares me....vs the Hawks. So what Maryland was co-champion of the weak acc, and ohio st & msu are co champions of the weak big ten. Their only real strengths are their high caliber, experienced coaches. Shut down Evan Turner & OSU is done. MSU is waaaaaay to inconsistent to even make it to KU in this years tourney. And Maryland is a one man team too.

I'd love to see KSU, Baylor, Texas, & Kansas in the Final Four.

Ron Franklin 10 years, 2 months ago

Wow!!! Too much road time equals very poor grammar & I was too lazy to proofread. Don't judge, I'm lacking a great deal of sleep!!

okiedave 10 years, 2 months ago

Finished my bracket. Call me crazy or slightly Big XII biased, but my gut puts Kansas - Kansas State - Texas - Baylor in the final four. Kansas State will take out a crippled Syracuse -- Yes, Texas will sneak up on Kentucky and destroy West Virginia -- Baylor will take out Villanova and then Duke. Kansas will take care of the Big XII final four. It is the year of the dominate conference - Big XII.

Kelly Hanrahan 10 years, 2 months ago

BoulderHawk & ohioburg

For the record - it is now 53 regular season conference championships.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

Look, I would prefer not to play ohio st because of turner, but there really can't be more than a 1 in 3 chance of this happening. You are all flipping out about GTown. Last week they were the #22 team in the country and the 8 seed in the Big East tourney. They got to the final and lost. They are now ranked #15 or so (Sparty is #12) So effing what. Its not football, you gotta beat the team in front of you.

trueblue9 10 years, 2 months ago

I guess I can buy some of whitlock's argument if its about tv (although I don't know if there's a love/hate relationship with this year's team, there's no reddick/leitner). But if its about putting butts in seats, wouldn't the committee send the whitest team (Duke) to the whitest big city in america (SLC)?

johnnyphoton 10 years, 2 months ago

Okiedave, I say this with all good intentions: You are maybe slightly crazy, but you are really Big 12-biased.

rockchalk80 10 years, 2 months ago

Here is a comment comparison of DeMarcus Cousins (UK's touted center) “They are setting us up,” an incredulous Cousins said. “They are setting us up.” His mood wouldn’t improve. When West Virginia, a team many believed deserved a No. 1 seed, was announced as the No. 2 seed in UK’s bracket, Cousins’ disbelief continued. “Oh my God,” he said. When New Mexico, the No. 8 team in the country and a squad many felt had the résumé of a No. 2 seed, was revealed as the No. 3 seed in UK’s region, Cousins dropped an expletive not fit for print.

Love the comment from Marcus Morris - "But, I mean, at the end of the day, it doesn’t even matter. Whoever they put in our bracket is just another step standing in our way,” Morris added.

Attitude means a lot in life... UK has a young team... love to see KU play them for all the marbles...but I doubt they'll get there.

Omari Miller 10 years, 2 months ago

Although I was just as disappointed and confused as anyone else posting here when the brackets were announce, and plenty is being made of it, the brackets aren't our biggest hazard - we are.

To be sure, the NCAA tourney is supposed to be a sublime meritocracy where teams are rewarded with a favorable path to the Final Four for a season's worth of success. So, KU (the overall #1 seed and unanimous #1 in the polls) was supposed to see the weaker teams in it's bracket. When I saw Duke get the breaks, I figured it was just the committee trying to help CBS put on the best show to get ratings off of Duke (highly salable brand) advance far in the tourney. And this may, in fact be true. But I think playing the winner of set 1( MSU/Maryland) and set 2 (Georgetown/Tennessee/OSU) is far less daunting than the idea of us sleepwalking through most of the first half, which has been something we've seemed inclined to do of late. So if the talk of how much more dangerous this bracket is than any other helps our guys get focussed and play with intensity through each game, I say it's a blessing.

When KU plays to its potential, there's no team that's even close.

waywardJay 10 years, 2 months ago

Ohio.

There's wanting something and Wanting something. Case in point, We had a great story about Jacob Pullen a couple days ago, after loss three... and how he felt it was right there for the taking... That he dreamed about this sort of thing,.

Senior Jacob Pullen will play every game next year with the lust Sherron has this year.

Junior Tyler Hansbourough got his face kicked in by a freshman from Somwhere in minnesota.... you think that didn't make him twitch during the offseason.

Brandon, Mario,Darrell, sasha, Darnell etc. all got the number 1 seed in the west and a road game against number 2 UCLA. You think that slight didn't make a bit of difference.....

Now, just for a second think of one person who has come so close to tasting the spoils of total victory .... or in our case.... has tasted the worst of defeats after tasting the ultimate glory.....

yOu don't think that would drive someone more than Jon Scheyer who has everything hadned to him ?

John Wall, who doesn't care about w's or l's.

Arinze Onauku who may or may not play ?

If there is one man in this tourney who scares me, It's Evan Turner. and his teammates are not as good as he is. It's arguable that sherron's teammates aren't better than Sherron....

but NO ONE tops his fire....

that's what I'm talking about.If you can't get behind that then you haven't been watching us very closely lately.

KULA 10 years, 2 months ago

I bet Duke goes down to Louisville. If not, Turg will take care of them. If Onuaku doesn't play, I don't think Syracuse gets by Gonzaga. Too bad KState didn't draw Kentucky's bracket--I'd love to watch Clemente/Pullen vs Wall/Bledsoe.

Steve Brown 10 years, 2 months ago

Dateline NJ 2020.

Coach Calimari, 7th straight NBA titles confirms today that the team has given John Wall Manhattan Island for his birthday, to match last years gift of Long Island to teammmate L. James.

Calimari, the only coach to win 6 NBA for the Nets also holds distinction as the only coach of a #1 to lose to a #16 play in team, ten years ago. See that game still playing 24hours on ESPNU.

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 2 months ago

Nice speech, wayward. I don’t buy it. The only players who don’t “want” it have losing records and get their coaches fired (see “Mangino”). There are no teams like that in the NCAA tourney. They all have “want”, they all have their own methods to get themselves motivated. I’ll take talent, coaching, and discipline at this point because there’s nobody for lack of want in the NCAA tourney. And, yeah, uh, I do follow the Jayhawks closely. I want to.

Dan Pawlowski 10 years, 2 months ago

53jayhawk, Yep, I had not included this year Thanks

Dan Pawlowski 10 years, 2 months ago

...although the disparity between Kansas and Kentucky is a gulf so large adding one is like spitting in the ocean....

KURocksChalk 10 years, 2 months ago

I like the tough bracket. I think it works in our favor. We will be very well-prepared for the final four. I think we have a tendency to play down to our competition. We are not winning games by 40 points as much as I thought we would. So, this will be good to get our guys focused.

KULA 10 years, 2 months ago

The NCAA gave Kansas this challenging bracket so that when the Jayhawks advance through it and win the National Championship, there will be no argument that the 2010 Kansas Jayhawks are the GREATEST COLLEGE BASKETBALL TEAM to ever take the court!!!

niemoth 10 years, 2 months ago

It's kind of ridiculous to even name a #1 overall if you're going to seed the rest of the teams by location. It's also ridiculous to even to an s-curve and number the teams 1 - 65. Why do they need to distinguish who is 5, 6, 7, and 8 if they are going to just put them in based on location? Although, I think it won't matter. Last time I felt we got this tough of a bracket was when we were got a 2 instead of a 1 and were in the bracket with #3 Duke and #1 Arizona in 2003. We still came out of that bracket and made us playing really good ball (even if we did kill ourselves from the line against Syracuse). A lot of people are saying Duke got the easiest region, but I'd have to disagree. They potentially have 2 road games against A&M and Baylor. Baylor has got to be feeling like the luckiest team out there. They are ranked 20th in the polls and they get a 3 in a region right at home. WOW. Pitt and New Mexico got 3's and instead of putting New Mexico out West and Pitt out East, they reverse them. But they'll go ahead and put Baylor right at home like they are the #9 overall team.

Kye Clark 10 years, 2 months ago

The regular season is almost meaningless if you're going to seed the number 2 seeds according to geography. What's the incentive to grab one of those top seeds, especially THE top seed? As long as you put together a body of work good enough to get you a 1 or 2 seed (and in some cases even a 3 seed), the committee will take care of you geographically for the first couple of rounds and beyond that they simply let the competitive balance fall where it may. I know it's all about getting decent draws at the local sites for the first two rounds, but at some point seeding it that way compromises the integrity of the tournament.

Many people have tried pointing out that the Midwest is not that much more difficult, that KU will only have to play one of the teams from the lower half of the bracket, and will only have to play the winner of the likely Michigan St-Maryland game. However, an upset in one of the weaker regions, say K-State bowing out early in the West or Baylor in the South, and the brackets open up to be relatively weak. This was the case for KU in '08, as all of the top seeds kept dropping out. This year, it is almost impossible to fathom the 'hawks not facing a tough opponent in the sweet 16 & elite 8, and that is the point.

Despite all of this, I am encouraged. Every one of the East coast lovers on ESPN has KU advancing to AT LEAST the Championship game, and everyone except Dick Vitale has us winning it all. I'm sure he's more interested in the NIT tournament with UNC being there.

Justin Lindsley 10 years, 2 months ago

It doesn't matter who is in our region. Just go out and win. I think the Hawks play better when they are playing the tougher teams or at least who they think are the "tough" teams. They have been finding a way to win all season. I can't think of any reason why that won't continue. GO HAWKS!

Bear86 9 years, 5 months ago

Seeing this article again makes me seeth over last years NCAA tournament draw. The bracket's were fixed so Duke would have a cake walk into the Final Four. To this day I'm still in denial how last years bracket was so lopsided for the #1 Ranked team in the country. Every team in the mid-west bracket either won their conference regular season title or the conference tournament. CBS & the NCAA tournament committee conspired to have Duke in the championship game as well as give a few mid-majors (easy draw's to the sweet 16) like Butler so they could set up the David vs Goliath fairy tale Championship game. Oh yea, Butler is located in Indianapolis, IN. Didn't any one call out the committee on this. CBS broadcast right's were coming up for renewal so the tournament wanted to get their highest TV ratings by fixing the brackets. F-the NCAA Tournament committee!!! F-Texas!!

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