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Originally published November 7, 2009 at 10:06a.m., updated November 7, 2009 at 04:20p.m.

FINAL: Daniel Thomas runs for 183 yards in KSU’s 17-10 victory over KU

The Kansas defense gobbles up KSU running back Daniel Thomas in the second half in Manhattan Saturday, November 7, 2009.

The Kansas defense gobbles up KSU running back Daniel Thomas in the second half in Manhattan Saturday, November 7, 2009.

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Will the KU football team make a bowl game this season?

  • Yes 18% 441 votes
  • No 76% 1776 votes
  • Undecided 5% 119 votes

2336 total votes.

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Should Reesing be KU's quarterback in the second half?

  • Yes 43% 46 votes
  • No 49% 52 votes
  • Undecided 7% 8 votes

106 total votes.

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What is the best unit in today's game?

  • Kansas State's offense 5% 3 votes
  • KU's offense 55% 31 votes
  • Kansas State's defense 14% 8 votes
  • KU's defense 19% 11 votes
  • Undecided 5% 3 votes

56 total votes.

KU vs. KSU

Box score

FINAL: KSU defeats KU, 17-10

Thomas runs for nine yards for a first down on the left side, and that does it.

KSU goes into the victory formation with two kneeldowns and comes away with the 17-10 victory.

KSU 17/KU 10 — 1:45 left in 4th quarter

Thomas runs for one yard on second down, and on third-and-four, Gregory takes the option around the right side for eight yards and another first down.

Thomas runs for two yards on first down, and KU uses its second timeout.

KSU 17/KU 10 — 3:07 left in 4th quarter

After gaining six yards on two running plays, KSU picks up the first down on a scramble up the middle by Gregory. Williams provided a great rush up the middle, but Gregory alluded him and was able to get a crucial nine yards.

Thomas rushes for five yards on first down, and KU calls timeout. The Jayhawks have two timeouts left, and they’ll need a stop on this set of downs or the next to extend this game.

KSU 17/KU 10 — 5:20 left in 4th quarter

Reesing picks up a crucial third-down-and-7 conversion, finding Meier on a slant over the middle for 15 yards.

Reesing’s inaccuracy almost costs KU again, though. On a second-and-5 play, he long-hops a short throw to McDougald, and because it is a backward lateral, when the ball goes out the receiver’s legs and out of bounds, KU loses six yards.

Meier catches a seven-yard pass, though, and Mangino elects to go for it on fourth down from the KSU 49, and Reesing completes an easy pass to Wilson over the middle for six yards and a first down.

Reesing comes through again on third-and-8, making a tough, crossfield pass to Meier, who turned it upfield for eight yards and another first down.

A false start penalty moves KU back, though, and Meier can’t hold on to a pass on third-and-6.

From the KU 29, Mangino elects for a 46-yard field-goal attempt, and Branstetter sneaks it over the crossbar and through.

The decision to kick the field goal was absolutely the correct call by Mangino. This late, KU had to make it a one-possession game. Now, the Jayhawks have.

KSU 17/KU 7 — 12:58 left in 4th quarter

KU’s defense holds, as Caleb Blakesley brings down Thomas for no gain on second down and Stuckey makes a nice-open field tackle on Mastrud on third down.

Reesing needs to continue his recent hot streak for KU to have any chance of a comeback.

KSU 17/KU 7 — End of 3rd quarter

KU’s coaches switch it up with a pair of running plays, and Jake Sharp finds some holes, going forward for seven and nine yards.

Reesing appears to be finding a bit of a rhythm. He hits Meier on the sideline for 19 yards, then hits Tim Biere for 13 and Briscoe over the middle for 11 more.

On third-and-3, Reesing squeezes the ball into a tight window to Briscoe for five yards and another first down.

KU is moved back on a holding call by Hatch, but Reesing completes a 13-yard pass over the middle to Johnathan Wilson. The third-down pass is batted down, and Branstetter’s 30-yard field-goal attempt misses wide left.

Mangino showing a lack of faith in his QB and kicker last week don’t seem to have paid dividends so far today.

KSU 17/KU 7 — 7:00 left in 3rd quarter

KU should get a steady dose of Thomas the rest of the way, and the Jayhawks haven’t shown they can stop him yet. Thomas hurdles Anthony Davis and picks up 19 yards down, giving the KSU back 15 carries for 136 yards.

On third-and-four, Gregory misses an open Banks down the middle of the field. The KSU QB has been extremely inaccurate, but at least he’s been inaccurate where no Jayhawk can catch it.

A sky punt by KSU pins KU at its own 9.

KSU 17/KU 7 — 8:49 left in 3rd quarter

Reesing does come back as KU’s starting QB for the second half. He short-hops McDougald on a five-yard, first-down route, and McDougald is ankle-tackled on a screen pass after picking up four on second down.

On third-and-6, Reesing holds on to the ball and holds on to the ball and holds on to the ball. Finally, KSU sacks him from behind, and Reesing has to get rid of the ball earlier.

Rojas punts the ball straight to Banks, but the KU coverage untit does a good job. Banks actually fumbles at the end of the play, but the officials rule that Banks was already down.

KSU 17/KU 7 — 10:27 left in 3rd quarter

Jeff Wheeler jumps offsides to give KSU five important yards.

Thomas squirts through a hole on the right side and almost walks into the end zone for a five-yard TD run, and KU suddenly finds itself down two scores.

KSU 10/KU 7 — 10:30 left in 3rd quarter

Gregory takes the quarterback draw through a hole in the middle and gains eight yards on fourth-and-two. KSU is hard to defend on a play like that with so many running threats in the backfield.

The shifty Thomas take another Wildcat snap, reversing field and dancing between defenders for 12 more yards to the KU 10.

KSU takes another timeout to set up a play. That could prove to be costly if this game stays close.

KSU 10/KU 7 — 12:16 left in 3rd quarter

KSU pulls out the Wildcat formation, and Thomas gets to the outside, bursting 40 yards up the field for a big play.

Gregory isn’t making many good throws, but he also isn’t making the big mistake. On third-and-9, he rolls away from pressure then falls forward for seven yards to the KU 32.

KSU will go for it on fourth-and-2, but the Wildcats burn a timeout beforehand. KSU has wasted at least three timeouts today on the offensive end.

Guess I'm wrong. Reesing is taking the halftime snaps from Hatch. Looks like he'll start the second half for KU.

Halftime stats of note

Kansas

• Todd Reesing 14-for-22 123 yards, TD, INT; 5 carries, 28 yards, 2 fumbles

• Toben Opurum 2 carries, 7 yards

• Jake Sharp 3 carries, 6 yards

• Dezmon Briscoe 5 catches, 60 yards, TD

• Kerry Meier 4 catches, 40 yards

Kansas State

• Grant Gregory 6-for-13, 65 yards, TD

• Daniel Thomas 9 carries, 55 yards

• Brandon Banks 2 carries, 32 yards

• Lamark Brown 3 catches, 43 yards, TD

Other stats

• KU had 157 total yards, while KSU had 166.

• KSU converted just one of seven third-down attempts.

• KSU has 19 carries for 101 rushing yards.

What I’m expecting the second half

• More rushing plays for KSU

• Kerry Meier or Kale Pick under center to start the second half

KSU 10/KU 7 — Halftime

Reesing comes out for a kneeldown to run out the clock, and KSU has taken back all the momentum after its late touchdown.

KSU 10/KU 7 — 20 seconds left in 2nd quarter

KSU takes advantage of the Reesing fumble, as Gregory hits Brown for a 31-yard touchdown pass. The pass was well underthrown, but with no Jayhawks in the area, Brown had plenty of time to react to it, catch it and still take two steps into the end zone.

Cherry’s extra point puts KSU up by three.

KU 7/ KSU 3 — 27 seconds left in 2nd quarter

With no open receivers, Gregory is forced to run ahead for a one-yard loss on first down.

Lubbock Smith has great pursuit on the next option play, bringing down Thomas in the backfield.

On third down, Thornton comes through on a blitz for a sack. KSU goes backwards on three straight plays.

Cherry misses the 39-yard field-goal attempt from the left hash, and KU’s defense comes up with an enormous stop early in this game.

Reesing completes a pass to McDougald, and on third down, the quarterback spins away from pressure and runs ahead for a first down, sliding to protect the football.

I guess it was just a one-time thing. On his next rush, Reesing barrels head-first into a pair of defenders, and he fumbles again, giving KSU the ball back at the KU 43. Horrible decision by Reesing, and with three turnovers, I’m guessing we might see Pick in the second half. I’m not even sure Reesing could argue with that at this point.

KU 7/KSU 3 — 4:27 left in 2nd quarter

Reesing does the worst thing possible for KU: He turns it over deep in KSU territory.

After scrambling up the middle for 17 yards, Reesing was stripped from behind, and KSU recovered at the KU 24. This is what the Wildcats feast on: turnovers by opposing teams in their own territory.

Gregory starts with a 12-yard run, and KSU calls timeout before its next play.

KU 7/ KSU 3 — 5:13 left in 2nd quarter

KU’s defense dodges two huge bullets at the beginning of the next possession.

On the first play, Gregory throws his first accurate deep ball to Banks, who had both Anthony Davis and Darrell Stuckey beat by a couple steps. The pass clanged off Banks’ hands, though, and saved KU from what would have been a sure TD for KSU.

The next play, KSU ran a double-reverse for Banks, and he looked to be in the clear for a huge gain. But Stuckey fought off one blocker and avoided another, throwing his hand up to throw Banks off-balance on the sideline to limit him to a 20-yard gain. Without the tackle, the play could have gone much farther.

KSU is hurt by another rare foul call (15-yard leg whip) and a Gregory scramble on third-and-long isn’t nearly enough for a first down. A nice punt and good coverage by KSU means KU will take over at its own 7.

KU 7/KSU 3 — 8:18 left in 2nd quarter

Another gaffe by KSU's special teams, as Cherry boots the ball out of bounds. KU will have good field position at its own 40.

Reesing swings a pass out to Bradley McDougald, and because of good receiver blocking, the receiver bolts through a hole 12 yards for a first down.

Reesing scrambles for five yards, and he doesn't look like he's at full speed yet, most likely because of his injured groin.

On third-and-5, KSU brings pressure from Reesing's backside, but the QB does a good job of feeling the pressure, stepping to his right, then firing to Meier for a first down.

The next play, Briscoe makes a play on the outside, breaking tackles before falling into the end zone for a TD.

Branstetter adds the extra point, and KU's offense is showing signs of life.

KSU 3/KU 0 — 11:12 left in 2nd quarter

After taking a few steps rugby-style, Alonso Rojas booms a punt, and Banks is forced to let it bounce. That’s 47 yards with no return. KU will take that each time.

KSU is taking some chances deep, as a deep pass attempt to Banks is knocked away by Justin Thornton at the last second. Thornton was beat on the play, but the ball was well underthrown by Gregory.

On third-and-7, Thornton is beat again over the middle by Banks, and he’s forced to run into the receiver. Easy defensive pass-interference call, and KSU gets a fresh set of downs.

KU forces another third down, but once again has a blown coverage. No one covers the tight end Mastrud, and he catches an easy pass for 11 yards over the middle.

KSU has another third-and-5, but this time the Jayhawks bring pressure up the middle on the blitz and Gregory’s pass down the sideline is well overthrown.

A 47-yard field goal attempt Josh Cherry splits the uprights with plenty of distance, and the Wildcats are on the board first.

KU 0/KSU 0 — End of 1st quarter

Brandon Banks shows his speed, taking an end-around 12 yards around the right sideline behind a blocker.

KU stacks up Thomas on third and a long 1, and KSU goes for it on fourth down from the KU 28. KSU’s Lamark Brown has KU’s D.J. Beshears beat down the sideline, but Grant Gregory overthrows him by a step in the end zone. Disaster averted for KU.

Another trick play with Kale Pick goes awry, as Pick is tackled in the backfield for a six-yard loss. Reesing’s second-down pass is batted down, and a third-down underhanded fling from Reesing is dropped by Opurum. What a weird pass attempt. KU will punt the ball back to KSU and to the dangerous Brandon Banks.

KU 0/KSU 0 — 3:43 left in 1st quarter

The Jayhawks are having success in routes where the receiver stops in a location and Reesing hits them. Briscoe turns upfield for 12 yards. Briscoe’s hands are looking much better today.

Reesing takes a shot deep, and Briscoe is able to draw a 15-yard defensive pass-interference penalty.

Weird formation on first down for KU, as left tackle Tanner Hawkinson is lined up at tight end on the right side. On that play, Tim Biere appeared to line up as the left tackle.

Another stop route works for KU, as a Reesing pass sticks to Briscoe’s fingers and he is pushed up the field for 16 yards and a first down. Briscoe also is doing a nice job of coming back to the football to help out his quarterback.

On fourth-and-inches, KU runs the play it tried to run last week again Texas Tech, and Opurum bounces to the outside for four yards and an easy first down.

Reesing, with all day to throw, makes another mistake. Throwing deep over the middle, his pass is well underthrown and is intercepted by Emmanuel Lamur, who returns it to the KSU 37. Add on an unnecessary roughness penalty on KU, and KSU will start with a short field at the KU 48.

It’s exactly the kind of mistake Reesing has to avoid today.

KU 0/KSU 0 — 8:06 left in 1st quarter

Who knew clipping was still a penalty?

KU fans are glad it still is now, as following an 11-yard run by Daniel Thomas, the Wildcats were moved backwards 15 yards by a call I don’t think I’ve seen in the last couple years.

On third down, Grant Gregory’s throwback pass to Jeron Mastrud is swarmed by KU defenders, and the Wildcats are forced to punt.

I don’t think KSU coach Bill Snyder minds. KU will take over at its own 13 and will have to go the length of the field for points.

KU 0/KSU 0 — 11:00 left in 1st quarter

All week the talk was about Kansas State’s special teams, but KU’s special teams come away with the first game-changing play on the opening kickoff.

Darrell Stuckey took the kick at the three-yard line and ran across the field 67 yards all the way to the KSU 30. Stuckey has just three kickoff returns this year, and two of them have gone for 50-plus yards.

Kerry Meier picks up one third down across the middle, but Reesing kills the drive by taking a sack on second down. He had Toben Opurum open in the flat, but instead he held the ball too long and took a negative play.

KU is held on third down, and Branstetter misses a 30-yard field-goal attempt. After Stuckey’s big return, the momentum has swung immediately back to the Wildcats.

11:31 a.m.

It's 64 degrees and beautiful weather here for kickoff.

KSU wins the toss and will defer. The Jayhawks will get the ball first.

11:22 a.m.

Though it might be hard to believe this after KU's struggles the last three weeks, the Jayhawks actually still are in the thick of the North race.

Take a look at this blog by friend-of-the-blog Bill Connelly. He actually posted this before last week's game, and all his statistical projections correctly picked the winners of last week's Big 12 games.

Based on his statistical projections, KU will beat KSU and Nebraska, which would put the Jayhawks in a tie for first place in the Big 12 North in two weeks.

If everything played out as his statistical projections say, the KU-Missouri game once again would determine the winner of the Big 12 North, as KU would own the tiebreakers over the Tigers with a win.

Of course, it's also still mathematically possible for all six North teams to tie for the title with 3-5 records, as the Fort Worth Star Telegram reported earlier this week.

10:57 a.m.

It looks like KU will have some more switches today on the offensive line.

From pre-game snaps, it looks like Brad Thorson has moved from right guard to right tackle, and red-shirt freshman Trevor Marrongelli has slid into the right guard spot. That leaves Jeff Spikes as the odd man out.

10:44 a.m.

A lot was made of KU coach Mark Mangino's decision to not onside kick last week when kicking off from the Texas Tech 40.

After the game, KU coach explained why he kicked it deep, saying: “(KU kicker Jacob) Branstetter, all he’s capable of is kicking the ball off the tee deep. You saw against Oklahoma, we tried to kick a little pooch kick, it didn’t work. We’ve tried squib kicks in practice, they’ve gone out of bounds. So we figured, ‘Let’s make sure that they get it on the 20 and not do anything stupid.’”

KU punter Alonso Rojas said this week that he doesn’t know any reason Branstetter wouldn’t be able to attempt an onside-kick attempt if asked to do so.

“Hands down, I know if Jake ever needed to come through with it, he could do it,” Rojas told me Tuesday. “It’s something we need to just keep practicing. If it ever comes a time to do it, we’re going to do it. I have faith in all our guys to be able to do that.”

While the team has its normal practice each day, Rojas and Branstetter go to the football practice fields to work on various kicks.

“That’s one of the things (Jacob) tries to work on the most is the little things with kicking, like the onside kicks, the short field goals, the extra points, the fundamental stuff,” Rojas said.

Rojas also said that the entire special teams worked on onside kicks two or three times per week in practice. In those run-throughs, the hands team goes on the field to try to recover Branstetter’s onside kick.

“You kind of have to have the right pace along with the guys going to get the ball,” Rojas said. “When he onside kicks on his own, he kicks pretty good.”

Rojas also said he could try an onside kick if the team needed him to, as he practices them along with Branstetter on the practice field.

“Jake’s the kickoff guy, so most schools, most teams the kickoff guy deals with all that,” Rojas said. “But I practice everything as well, every aspect of kicking in the game, so if I’m ever needed or called upon, I could do it.”

Branstetter was 1-for-2 on onside-kick attempts last year, as KU recovered a fourth-quarter attempt against Nebraska and failed on a fourth-quarter try against Oklahoma.

If KU needs an onside-kick attempt today, expect Branstetter to be the guy.

10:32 a.m.

This game looks to be about as evenly-matched as you can get.

One way you can tell is from the predictions.

On our weekly pick 'em each of our eight pickers chose KU to win.

On GoPowercat.com, the Kansas State fan site, nine of 10 pickers chose Kansas State.

While stopping to pick up sunglasses for Tom Keegan at the Manhattan K-Mart, I picked up the Manhattan Mercury, and all six pickers in there chose K-State.

So here's an official tip of the hat to GoPowercat's Rob Cassidy, who was the only one out of 24 writers to pick against the hometown team.

10:18 a.m.

I've added some videos to the left side from Big 12 media day back in July.

KSU coach Bill Snyder and linebacker Alex Hrebec both talk about the significance of the KU-KSU football game for the team and for KSU fans in general. It's a good reminder of just what these game means for those players and coaches involved in it.

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KSU coach Bill Snyder

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Kansas State linebacker Alex Hrebec

10:05 a.m.

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from Bill Snyder Family Stadium in Manhattan where the Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the Kansas State Wildcats.

It feels like this game could be the beginning of the season or the end of the season for both teams.

Let me explain.

For KU, a victory would put it right back in the thick of the Big 12 North Division race. A win against Nebraska next week at home most likely would put the Jayhawks back in first place in the North.

A loss, though, essentially ends any hopes KU has at a Big 12 North title. Sure, the Jayhawks could still become bowl eligible, but a majority of KU fans' attention will turn directly to basketball and the season starting for the preseason No. 1 Jayhawks.

For K-State, its Big 12 North hopes depend much on this game as well.

With a win, the Wildcats get their fourth conference victory, and that might be all that they need to take the title. A win over Missouri or Nebraska would nearly guarantee the Wildcats a spot in the Big 12 Championship game.

A loss today, and the nice story that KSU has turned into the last few weeks loses a lot of steam. Suddenly, the Wildcats would need wins in its final two games both to have a shot at the Big 12 North title and also simply to become bowl eligible.

The result of today's game, even beyond the rivalry, should have a significant impact on both of these programs going forward.

Be sure to check out our poll on the left and also use the Twitter hashtag #kufball to have your comments appear on our page.

Comments

rawkhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

this game is big. let's do this 'Hawks!

kansasbasketball 10 years, 3 months ago

anybody got this game so i can watch it on the internet?

jayhawkpro 10 years, 3 months ago

Hey Jesse - any truth to the rumors I heard on the radio about KSU players' cars vandalized overnight with blue and red paint? I have visions of Charles Jefferson playing like a beast after his car was vandalized in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"....

Jesse Newell 10 years, 3 months ago

jayhawkpro — I heard something similar to that, but don't have any more details.

Joe Joseph 10 years, 3 months ago

Ridiculously disappointing first series.

rcjh22 10 years, 3 months ago

We put in a freshman lineman and he lets his man get by in the most key play of the drive.

Joe Joseph 10 years, 3 months ago

Terrible pass. Worse unnecessary roughness call. Complete B/S.

Eric Hammond 10 years, 3 months ago

Todd Reesing looked good the entire series, but who the hell was he throwing that ball to. This kid is getting worse his senior year. Hello Mr. Pick!

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

Should be 14-0, the sack on the first series in the red zone was just as bad as a turnover. Looking like the same story different opponent so far.

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Is it me or does there seem like a lack of preparation the last few games (especially Colorado...I was there). Seems like we have a few areas we can pick on K-State's defense but instead get a sack on 2nd & Goal the 4 and then a pick. KSU is luck to be tied and have the ball

MrPilot 10 years, 3 months ago

Something is really wrong with Reesing. I just don't understand it.

KU_Alumn_2000 10 years, 3 months ago

Reesing isn't himself...he's definitely feeling some sort of injury. Hmmm...question now is...are we better with an unexperienced Pick...an injured Reesing...or maybe better yet put Meier in and let McDougald come in at the slot.

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Worst 3 Plays in a row. What is up with putting Pick in and not appearing to have a plan?

rockchalkin54 10 years, 3 months ago

Wow that was about the most pointless possession ever.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

What are we doing? Are we even trying to win the game? Backup quarterback in the backfield... that should fool the defense.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

wasted offensive posession. What is that putting Pick in the backfield? The offense was moving the ball just fine with regular sets. I dont get this, its 0-0 and we are experimenting with that crap? This is what we have become

Eric Hammond 10 years, 3 months ago

Heck, Reesing and Sharp have gotten so bad this year. Time to move the new kids in and lets look forward to next year.

hawksince51 10 years, 3 months ago

At least we got thru the 1st Qtr with a tie. Big improvement over last 3 games.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

That possession goes entirely on the coaching staff. Why completely blow a possession like that?? Absolutely awful. We have been moving the ball. Reesing threw a bad pass; why would we just say "screw our offense" at that point?? It was ONE bad pass????

Now his confidence is most likely shaken. K-State has the momentum. This was just awful coaching. Awful.

rockchalkblock 10 years, 3 months ago

What the hell... today is all about TOP and we just gave the ball back in 50 sec. Seriously this is our game plan? If its not Reesing screwing up on the feild the coaches are screwing it up... way to stick out defense out there there whole entire first quarter!.. at least your defense is playing with passion today.

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

It must be KSU's birthday because we are just showering them with gifts!

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Toben...Watch Thomas of KSU hit the hole...that's how to do it

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years, 3 months ago

We don't stick with what works (slants & middle routes) and seem to be trying all the dusty crap at the bottom of the playlist. This is 2 offenses stinking the joint up, not defensive playmaking. Reminds me of the old 'Toilet Bowl' days....

Joe Joseph 10 years, 3 months ago

Kstate's kicker makes his first field goal from beyond 40 yards of the season and then shanks the kick-off out of bounds.

Only against Kansas...

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

I'm Wavin' Keep the pressure on the mildcats!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

Wow! We just put together a nice offensive possession for the first time in a few weeks. Now keep it up!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Wow. K-State defense: you just made our offense look a Pro-Bowl lineup. That was pitiful K-State.

Thank you.

And on another point, coaching staff: way to stop sucking for a possession. Do the simple things that make our offense work. What a concept!!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Okay. I'll stop being so angry at our staff for a little while.

Rock Chalk.

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

KSU = Regifters. Banks just gave us a gift back

CrimsonPhoenix 10 years, 3 months ago

Stuckey went Beast Mode on the double team coverage, that was insane.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

"Another gaffe by KU's special teams, as Cherry boots the ball out of bounds. KU will have good field position at its own 40." How in the lord..

Joe Joseph 10 years, 3 months ago

Todd Reesing has turned into a F#*cking liability.

deepind 10 years, 3 months ago

Are you kidding me!!?? Reesing, just slide after getting the first down!!

RunningBeaker84 10 years, 3 months ago

That fumble is what had cost us a "W" in Boulder. It gave points to OU and TTU as well. Our O has been the other team's O as of late.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Wow! Did I go to sleep after the Iowa State game and wake up in Bizzaro World?

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

this season has become murphy's law. Todd has 9 turnovers in like three games now.

Jesse Newell 10 years, 3 months ago

jayhawkboogey — Sorry, typo. I meant "KSU". It's been fixed.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

Todd has given up more points in the past 4 games than he has scored/provided.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

No problem, Jess. I love the blog. Just caught me off guard. Good work tho, don't think I am not appreciating the work!

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Alright, let's just get to halftime. No more turnovers....

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Nevermind. This is starting to become a joke

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Can't believe I'm going to say this but...

Pull him.

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Oh well, Mangino would have messed up Clock Management anyway

RunningBeaker84 10 years, 3 months ago

KSU let the clock run on a KU incomplete, and it may cost them after their O ummm KU's O gave them the ball again.

Kyle Cornish 10 years, 3 months ago

I blame the coaches... Our skill players are better than theirs... Slant and quick out Briscoe, Meier and McDougald ALL DAY!!!!!! Then when they finally cover that, shovel pass or go deep!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

10 turnovers in 10 quarters by Reesing.. Time to get him out of there. For the first time, KState turns it into points. What is this now, like 8 touchdowns off Todd Reesing turnovers (not even the other guys' fumbles) the last 3 1/2 games? He's got to be done at this point, I never imagined the season going like this.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

I knew you guys could do it if you kept at it and kept trying! Awesome job. Let's see how many games we can give away! Woo hooo!! Finally, K-State got a touchdown! I was beginning to think we were going to have to just hand them the ball and look the other way...sheesh!

deepind 10 years, 3 months ago

Wowww... the recipe for how to lose a game in 50 secs - tell your injured QB (who is 5'9'', 170lbs) to run the ball.

kimming07 10 years, 3 months ago

I am betting one more fumble before the half

adamjhwkfan 10 years, 3 months ago

yea.. right. There is NO, NONE, NADA, NIET.. however you want to say it, intensity whatsoever since our last win.. on both sides of the ball.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Why are the k-staters cheering? They haven't done anything, it's been all KU

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

See Mangino, that's clock management and then you just sit on it with 14 seconds. Let's grow some...

Scatterhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

I don't know if I even want to watch the second half.

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

Wow -- first part of the season, our D sucks... and just as soon as get the D turned around, our O starts to suck!

GREAT stops on D at the end of the half (except that blown coverage on the TD)

Why can't Reesing learn from his mistakes? HOLD ON TO THE BALL, or SLIDE - you can't take on the linebackers, dude!

I know our run avg. is low this game, and lately, but I believe in Toben -- give him more runs.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

Really Kstate should have a huge lead at this point. A dropped touchdown by Banks and a overthrow on a corner route have cost them a 24-7 lead at this point. On another note... isn't it nice that the game is on pace to end in 3 hours instead of over 4 like ABC games.. one advantage of being a bad team on a low budget network.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Ok, I figured it out. We'll be ok if Reesing uses both arms to hold onto the ball when he runs. If he can just play like a QB and not a RB we'll be ok. Put in Toben at RB to start the 2nd half. I think as long as KU doesn't turn over the ball....let me repeat that...as long as KU DOESN'T TURN OVER THE BALL, we may be able to recover and escape with a win.

kimming07 10 years, 3 months ago

Thank goodness I live in Texas and will not have to listen to all the kitty cats on Monday after they pound us in the second half.

vmwskywalk 10 years, 3 months ago

If Meier does not start the 2nd half at QB, Mangino should be fired.

Brandon Snook 10 years, 3 months ago

Todd Reesing has broken pretty much every QB record at Kansas...might as well add Most Turnovers to the list of accolades, right?

Eric Hammond 10 years, 3 months ago

I hope Mark is thinking about his future as the KU Head man. Get Todd out of the game, replace with Kale Pick. I would rather loose to KSUck with a Freshamn QB, than a give them the ball just about everytime senior QB.

Todd is not good, hasn't been good for 4 games. Time for a change.

rcjh22 10 years, 3 months ago

bdsnook is so right. Reesing just wants to break every record there is. You can't blame him.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

Everyone is playing well except for Reesing. 3 turnovers, all on Reesing and a sack in the red zone that was just as good as a turnover that is on him as well. How can he go from the "savior" of KU football as some call him to a liability so quickly. Groin injuries do not cause you to fumble the ball twice and throw a pick into double coverage. This season is a freakin nightmare. There is not a team in football that can win a game turning the ball over at the clip KU has. The only reason I am still going to watch is to see the soap opera continue to unfold.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

Mangino Bonapart should be exiled to Elba.

Coaching is like sweet & sour, hero 1 day villan the next.

Thank you for your service, it won't be needed any longer.

hawksince51 10 years, 3 months ago

You gotta be happy with only a 10-7 deficit given all the TO's and KSU missed opportunities. We could just as easily be down 21. Reesing has his TO quota covered so maybe he can play some ball in the 2nd half. However, I am not doubling down with my KSU relatives.

jkanev 10 years, 3 months ago

Meier shouldn't start at QB; we need him as a receiver. If anybody besides Todd Reesing should start, it is Kale Pick. I think Todd went out too much and killed that one brain cell that made him a special quarterback. I have never seen a tank like this in the middle of the season in my life, and I never expected it to happen to Todd Reesing. BP2U, I agree with you. Toben should be our featured back, and Jake Sharp should function as a complimentary attack.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

I would be interesting if Mangino threw in Meier to start the 2nd half. I think if Todd is injured, he really should be pulled and rested. I wouldn't be opposed to Pick coming in for at least the 3rd quarter. As many turnovers as Reesing has been responsible for in the last 4 games(including this one), I don't think it's unreasonable to assume there's more going on than meets the eye with Reesing.

Otownhawker 10 years, 3 months ago

I'm done with Reesing and possibly done with KU football. The coaching sucks. Reesing sucks. They all suck. It's absolutley disgusting that for us to win we have to rely on opposing teams to screw up. We have no play makers. We can't hold on tothe ball. Put Pick in. This is horrible. And Deepind you idiot if Reesing is injured don't play. He's hurt so don't make him throw the ball either. Just have him kneel it every play. Coaches shouldnt have to change their game plan on account of Reesing suckin. This has nothing to do with clock management. Mangino sucks but dont blame him for clock managment.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

I meant 'It' would be interesting, lol...

rockchalkxii 10 years, 3 months ago

Everyone, please give Todd some respect. If it wasn't for him more than half of us, including myself, wouldn't even care about our football team.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

News flash: TR allergic to Jerry Jones stadium will toss fumbles and intercepts to avoid Big 12 champ game.

By arrowhead time who will be starting QB vote now: Pick Meier Stucky McDougal Sharpe Tyson Taylor

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

erichamm1211 - Yes. Other than that moronic offensive set on that one 3 and out, nothing in this game can be placed on the coaching staff. But with the hype and expectations of this season, if we lose this game, and we lose the next 3, which is appearing more and more likely, and fail to make a bowl, I think it is more than reasonable to reevaluate MM as head coach next season. Horrible coaching and preparation all year. And now, with Todd imploding, MM is or should be coaching for his job. A decision I would not want to have to make - bench Todd and have minimal chance of winning, or keep Todd in and almost certainly lose the game.

jayhawkintexas 10 years, 3 months ago

Take Reesing out!!! Now!!! Put Meier in at QB. And kick Mangino's big fat keester for the worst clock management in the history of KU football.

rcjh22 10 years, 3 months ago

Hopefully the reason Kale isn't in is because he is horrible. I hope it's because Mangino is an idiot. Put in Kale.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

rockchlkxii you are right I apologize.

Mr Todd I respect you, now take a bench.

OTown you and your father are/were never done, and you know it.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

Has anyone stopped and really thought about how mind blowing this whole situation is?

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

If we have better players than they do we'll want MORE not less plays in the allotted time: therefore against OU & Texas run the play clock down for sideline looks but for these kittens hike the dog gone ball and attack them, get more plays per minute NOT less you idiot.

sent with love and respect.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

I keep expecting our offense to start clicking again and it just doesn't happen.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Alright. The first half is history. Now begins our miraculous comeback to win this game convincingly and then go on to win the next 5 games and live up to the preseason hype! I didn't wait the entire offseason to watch us lose 7 games in a row! I will say though that a lot of this has to do with our young O-Line. Things are about to change, I can feel it.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

ok, ok, starting nowwwwww, right after the huge kstate play...

Chuck Wagstaff 10 years, 3 months ago

The most depressing thing is how fundamentally unsound we are. Dark days ahead.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

chrishauser20,

The answer to your question: Yes. Everybody.

Professor_Fate,

"The most depressing thing is how fundamentally unsound we are."

Include with that unmotivated and unorganized and it's clear what you have: bad coaching.

Kent Wells 10 years, 3 months ago

This is just unreal. Should Keegan start an investion if Reesing has a deal with a bookie out there? How in the hell can you have so many turnovers? I mean, could you have this many if you were trying???

Joe Joseph 10 years, 3 months ago

This Thomas dirt-bag is the best player on the field. Easily.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Yay!!!! we get to play catchup from a huge deficit afterall!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

I am really hoping not to see Todd after this commercial break...

jayhawkintexas 10 years, 3 months ago

$3 million per year and a $20 million football facility for THIS?

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

jayhawkintexas (anonymous)...-- exactly. And $90 single game tickets.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Look, I appreciate all the Reesing has done, but please, please, please put someone else in at QB, please?

pmohr13 10 years, 3 months ago

funny, Mark Mangino says they are are doing a lot up front to take away our running game, but Sharp and Opurum only have 5 combined carries. How about actually trying to run the ball. This is ridiculous.

rcjh22 10 years, 3 months ago

KALE PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

Doesn't seem kind of depressing and embarrassing to KU that MM was the 2007 coach of the year and now it has all fallen apart?

Lance Cheney 10 years, 3 months ago

Time to start priming Kale Pick for next year. Reesing has gone WAY downhill over the past month.

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

here we go -- don't give up on the run just yet! let's put 7 up right here and get back in the game....

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

"Not so fast..." (I hate lee corso) Reesing is making some good reads. Just wish we could find someone that can break tackles like that Thomas kid for KSU

deepind 10 years, 3 months ago

Why is Opurum not in the game? Sharp seems to be our featured back. We need Opurum's power running to pound the kitty cats.

deepind 10 years, 3 months ago

Woww... adding to the turnovers, now we have a missed chip shot field goal! Greate going guys.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

when it rains....it pooooooouuuuuuuurrrrrrsssssss. Can we at least give our players for next year an opportunity to get some in-game experience since we probably aren't going to score with the current players.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

defense can't pretend to stop the run and branstetter sucks. should have 13 points right now.

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

WTF COACH?? 3rd and 3 in the red zone and we get 0 points??

Why not put Toben in and run it twice!? You don't think we can get 3 yards in two plays??

what happened to the ballsy plays from 2007?

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

At least Reesing looked solid on that last possession.....

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

I don't see it....I just don't see another win this year at the rate we're going. We need to make wholesale changes in quite a few areas this offseason. Maybe we should chalk this year up to an extended pre-season for evaluation purposes like the chiefs

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 3 months ago

If Mangino loses the remainder of the games, he is DUNG!

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

I think I have it figured out, we just suck.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

Think how great the how always amazing KU crowd will be for the NU game. BIggest game of the year, to determine the North.... o wait...

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

that drive, we were doing great with mixing up the run and pass -- then we settled into the pass-only mode (when we got CLOSE to the end zone??) and became predicable.

Why we can't put Opurum in there with only 3 yards to go.... is beyond me. Just silly.

That 3rd and 4th down sequence probably just lost this game for us :(

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Remember the 1st Qtr., 2nd & Goal at the 4 and instead of pounding it in we pass and Reesing gets sacked. That is the first of many mistakes and missed field goals that have put us in the 4th Qtr. with only 7 points on the board. Why does Mangino think he is going to have unlimited opportunities to score?? Be smart and by the way, fire up the dang offense and make this Qtr. your own. Defense is going to make something happen if there is going to be a comeback.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

KState is just asking to get beat today and we are failing miserably. Nice to see another team use the BRILLIANT strategy of throwing a 2 yard pass to the slowest man on the team on 3rd and 7! That awesome coaching must be contagious. I thought it was just a KU thing.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Ok, if Todd can't come back in this one, then it's time to change out the QB for the rest of the year. I can understand chances, but it's hard to stay optimistic when your offense gives up more points than the defense every game. It's tough to watch.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

can we just forfit the rest of our games, I cant stand this anymore

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

I agree Opurum needed to get the ball (maybe twice) on that last possession. We needed 7 to turn this game around and there is no way he doesn't pick up 3 on two tries.

On the other hand, I have a feeling Reesing is gaining some confidence. Let's see what he does with this possession (assuming the coaching staff doesn't kick itself in the nutsack which is a HUGE assumption).............

truehawkfan36 10 years, 3 months ago

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Joe Joseph 10 years, 3 months ago

Looks like I'm rooting for Nebraska the rest of the season.

pmohr13 10 years, 3 months ago

put in opurum, if not to run then to at least block for when sharp is rushed up the middle

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

i like we are moving the ball but hurry up quit piddling around so long

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Is he trying to give us all heart attacks? Did anyone else panic when Todd started running?

rockchalkin54 10 years, 3 months ago

Is there a reason we wait until the play clock runs down EVERY TIME?

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

If we score again ,before we fumble, not likely, and we get two penalties against them on the score and we get to kick off on THEIR 40, will we try an onside kick, oh wait, we don't practice that event.

pmohr13 10 years, 3 months ago

what's wrong with having a lead blocker? we never seem to utilize this concept in the run game.

Kyle Cornish 10 years, 3 months ago

We don't have enough time to waste!! We will run out of time to catch up and Mangino will be to blame. And I bet no media person asks him about it.

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

another 2nd and 3rd and 1yd., and STILL no Toben?? another dumb penalty.. Sharp can't break a one-arm tackle... then we THROW on 3rd and 1 and then gamble on a long kick on 4th and 1?

I give up trying to understand these decisions and play calls!

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Clock Management Mangino...you need 2 scores and time to do it. Two runs and a penalty cost us nearly a min. of clocktime. (This is what a few of us were talking about...get a clue ZeroTown.) Nice going Brandstetter...now D you gotta make something happen!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

good thing our division I, 2 years starting kicker is incapable of kicking an onside kick since there is no possibility that could be a useful play at some point in this game. Have you ever heard something from a coach that made your blood boil like that remark. that was the point at which i was done with mangino. we finally scored again, but we took like 7 minutes off the clock thanks to 25 seconds of puckin' around after every play. since we aren't trying to come back against a team that is running at will against us or anything.

pmohr13 10 years, 3 months ago

in 2007 did we not have two backs that rushed for a bunch of yards a piece? why don't we try that anymore? Opurum is amazing and he only has 2 rush attempts this game?

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

rockchalkin54 yes, we want the clock to run out before State gets the chance to score again, so we are playing to lose by 20 instead of 40....GREAT QUESTION we need clock boys, who is coaching the clock for us, NO ONE.

Stupic Michael, I'm with you GO CORNHUSKERS!!

KUWells, same thought here, some vegas mob boss got to the TR family and now owns him, we won't win again if we do it won't beat the spread. If he is too injured to not fumble and throw to the feet of the receivers, then he owes it to tell the staff that he is too injured to perform. Take a bench for the team, since the staff can't see what is obvious.

when we lose and have better talent, that is when it hurts.

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

pmohr13 ,

The lead block on that draw for Reesing has been Sharpe, but on that last one he dove for a chop-block and didn't even graze the guy.

Again, Toben would be a better lead blocker -- and could barrel through at least 1 tackle to get a 3rd-and-short.

Did I miss something the last few games? Is he injured? Did he have some fumbles or low gain runs? Is is just because he's a freshman and Jake's a senior?

jahawkdave 10 years, 3 months ago

We need a defensive TD c'mon boys help us out!

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

It was 4th and 6. We also threw on 3rd and 6 b/c of the same penalty.

I've got to say, if we come back in this game, it really could be a turning point (even against this pitiful opponent). We need a defensive stop. How this team reacts here is entirely a reflection of our coaching staff.......

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

ahhh it was 4th and 6 .. I guess the kick is obv. there.

I still want see Toben on the 2nd or 3rd and short -- even if you decide to throw instead, at least TRY to fool the defense!

pmohr13 10 years, 3 months ago

yeha i was just saying if we had a lead blocker for sharp up the middle it would a lot more effective then sharp by himself up the middle.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

BP2U: Use your head, if Opurum was injured he would be playing.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

theres your ball game fail to make another tackle

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

Well, at least we scored a field goal so we weren't shut out in the 2nd half. Better watch out Nebraska, we're going to beat you badly ;-)

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

lighthawk,

F your insult.

Use your own head: If I knew Toben had any carries this game, I wouldn't wonder if he was injured.

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 3 months ago

That KSU touchdown at the end of the first half killed us!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

Our coach is an idiot for running so much clock on that drive. Our defense can't tackle anybody. Our QB is a basket case.

History awaits! Doesn't this sound just the same as the last 100 years?

escaped_labrat 10 years, 3 months ago

finally! Game over....Good job K-State, you guys deserve to win the North!!! it's all yours :-)

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

BP@U it wasn't an insult, rather a compliment, caged in scarism aimed at the coaches who seem to play the injured players over the healthy ones. We all agree w. you, play the frosh on more plays.

It was offered in jest, certainly I agree w. you, Opurum seems to be a stud and healthy so play him.

Since my comment insulted you, then I retract it in good faith. I realize we are all more than pissed right now, so I'm also going to clean the garage. OUT

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

That long drive that ended in 0 points was what killed us. 3rd and short and we have a throwing play and a missed FG on 4th and 1 or so.

We have to ball up and get a first down there with 3rd and short, or even on 4th down.

7 points there and it's a tied game right now

pmohr13 10 years, 3 months ago

BP2U

he was using sarcasm and hinting towards the fact that our coaching staff plays injured players. (ex Jake Sharp and Todd Reesing)

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

As I said.... a reflection of the coaching staff.

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Pathetic Loss...to a bunch of second rate players that don't belong on the same field as KU

NebraskaJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Wow... we did everything to lose this game. Um, what happened to the excitement surrounding this team? Why don't you guys just roll over and die....

We've lost every game that we needed to win this year. Worst season under HCMM.

Brian Powell 10 years, 3 months ago

lighthawk,

my bad - I misread it guess!

I agree -- more than a few situations today I was wanting to see Toben in for a run. Makes no sense.

If I could get past that, there's always the clock mgmt., turnovers, and missed tackles. Pretty sad :(

Enjoy the rest of your Saturday everyone! At least basketball season is here :))

Kyle Cornish 10 years, 3 months ago

Well it was nice to have the state of Kansas while we could. Goodbye all Kansas talent. Goodbye any three stars, goodbye everything we dreamt of. Back to doormats.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

First, congrats to KSU for playing like they wanted to win the game. Second, so long to the Mangino era.

caddie733 10 years, 3 months ago

If we lost to second rate players, what does that make our players?

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

optichawk- I know you are upset, I am too, but look how Snyder gets his kids to play. I hate KSU fans but I do not hate Snyder. Imagine what Snyder will be able to do in the next couple of years. Yes KSU has lesser caliber players than us but they also just beat us.

caddie733 10 years, 3 months ago

KU better just worry about getting bowl eligible

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 3 months ago

Earlier this season, Reesing talks about a crack at the pros! Earlier this season, Mangino talks about Reesing being Heisman material! That crap went straight to this kid's head and now has become a turnover machine! This kid has been great for KU footbal but he has lost his focus on the most important thing....WINNING!

caddie733 10 years, 3 months ago

You should take it easy...they beat us, and you belittle them. I'm sorry, but do you have an answer to the question. Looks like they did belong on the same field as KU. If anything KU doesn't belong on the same field as K-State, not with that pathetic performance

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the memories coach because that is all you will be at the end of the season.

rastameta 10 years, 3 months ago

Out coached yet again. This was a joke.

I can't believe some of the things they did today. It could be the worst coaching performance yet.

Fire the entire staff...I even support firing Mangino at the end of the season.

And for you all of you apologists on here who will will defend Mangino because of the one good season he had and because he is better then the Terry Allen years or KU football in the 80's, I say that is hogwash. We have the worst coaching staff in the North. We are not going to get more than 5 - 8 wins a season under Mangino except maybe a fluke season from time to time. We are the same as we were under Glen Mason in the early 90's before Terry Allen.

We have spent too much money on facilities and Mangino is paid too much to coach this poorly.

Our facilities are top-notch now and the fact that we have some talent and it isn't as bad when Terry Allen was fired, we can bring in a good coach this time around. A coach that can take us to the next level.

There is no excuse for this. We need to stop excepting it and saying, "we will always be a basketball school" or "at least it is basketball season". Let's take football seriously and get a good coaching staff.

Now that Synder has replace Prince...Mangino is the worst coach in the North. K-State went from having the worst the coach in the North to having the best coach in the North in one year and look at the difference. Everyone knows we have more talent than K-State, yet they get the most out of their talent because of coaching.

I am sick of being mediocre!

jmason 10 years, 3 months ago

As I said two weeks ago, this team won their last game of the season against Iowa State. They will not win another game this year.

Eric Schneider 10 years, 3 months ago

From preseason favorites to 5-7. Forget winning any of our last three games. Time to start giving Pick some reps at QB. Start getting ready for next year. Time to break out that old stand by:

Just wait 'til basketball season.

It's a shame that Reesing's tremendous run at KU has to end with a bad wheel.

lance1jhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

History Awaits.... What?????? A mere 6-6 finish to an awful, awful season that breaks the hearts of every Jayhawk fan across the country.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

I have never seen a team play in the biggest rivalry game of the year with as little energy as KU had today. Mangino has no ability whatsoever to motivate his players. The defense doesn't play with any passion and the offense is too inept to get excited.
The slow play on offense has been a big problem all year, but what kind of idiot coach goes through the same old crap of wasting the entire play clock every single play in the 4th quarter of a rivalry game down 2 scores. Either Mangino has no confidence in his team any more or no desire to win.
It is a strange pattern developing, how he just rolls over every time he plays against his former bosses and coworkers teams (OU, KSU with Snyder, TTU with Leach). Maybe he really doesn't want to ruffle feathers and beat them.

sava12 10 years, 3 months ago

Did anyone else notice that it appears KU has no confidence. There was no energy from either the offense or defense today. I think we should do what a lot of other schools are doing and schedule a pin cushion in November. That might give them a chance to break out of the slump and gain confidence. It's hard for kids to get up for every game week after week - pin cushions are the answer.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 3 months ago

I am really looking forward to seeing the basketball team play again on tuesday. I knew there was something wrong with the football team when the basketball players were able to push football players down steps! Mangino's press conference will prob. be the same broken record.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

Lucy, the brown haired girl promises to hold the ball steady while Charlie kicks the football.

arghhhhhhhh

rockchalkblock 10 years, 3 months ago

How in the world does a football team make 4 trips in the redzone and come away with only 10 points!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?! The coaches need to put Reesing on a SHORT SHORT collar... he his killing us! I wouldnt be against him being benched for the first half against Nebraska.. we have nothing to lose by doing it but everything to gain!

optimisticmangino 10 years, 3 months ago

Has a team ever started 5-0 and finished 0-7? Maybe Mangino can go home, take his shades off, and polish his Orange Bowl Trophy while contemplating that question.

KuSports4life 10 years, 3 months ago

mangino is out..Lew didn't hire him and will not put up with this poor coaching by mangino and his mediocre staff.. bench reesing and start Pick next three games.. thanks todd for the first three yrs.. three more turnovers in the first half.. too many.. if he is hurt or whatever the case may be the fact of the matter he has 10 turnovers in 10 quarters.. thats not getting the job done..

bengland 10 years, 3 months ago

so frustrating. this season was filled with so much promise.

55jayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Anytime you have an implosion by so many players like we saw, this is a coaching problem. Once again I did not see a pumped up team nor anything different on offense or defense as the team was flat. I won't bad mouth Todd because he tries to make something happen and quite frankly, he took some solid hits, and K State tried to knock the ball out of everyone's hands. It's important now that we just play the best we can and enjoy the remainder of the season and try to ruin another team's season by winning some games. We have good players but it was not meant to be this year I guess. We'll have to hope we can generate more offense next year because we will have a new young quarterback that will have to learn more than he knows now. To me the rest of the season is the season. We will find out how good the coaches are and will the players get out there and kick some butt.

hawksince51 10 years, 3 months ago

After the CU game I said it would be a big challenge for this team to win 2 more games and make a bowl. Forget the bowl but I can't ever forget MU. I know it will be a huge challenge to win one more but please make it the MU game. Until Arrowhead, I will be focusing on B-ball.

optimisticmangino 10 years, 3 months ago

If only Dez "Butterfingers" Brisco had made the sensational catch against Colorado as time expired. KU would be 9-0, Todd "New Sheriff In Town" Reesing would be the Heisman favorite, and Mangino would once again be AP coach of the year!

or maybe not...

rastameta 10 years, 3 months ago

I was in support of giving Mangino another season, but not anymore. The coaching is atrocious.

The players don't seem to be aware of situations and either play bad technique or make bad reads (coaching issue). They also make some mistakes by take bad angles, etc. but there are enough coaching mistakes that I can't hold that against them.

I think this might be the best year to bring in a new staff because we will be young next year at the skill positions and on defense and have no one leaving on the offensive line. This would be a perfect situation to bring in a new staff and allow them to coach up the young guys and get something out of them. Also, the schedule will be a little easier from the South bracket and it might allow some success for a new coach as well.

Joe Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

The North is over we decided not to play football for the rest of the year!

Not good ManG, not good!

I've tried to support you through the last few loses. No more! I know you could care less about alumni and fans, but I hope you care about your job.

This game changes my mind a bit, it's open...hmmm! I don't mind losing but losing ugly and to ksu? I know, lets just call NU and mizzou and just give them the game. Let's skip the humiliation of "playing" on the field. We don't really have much of a chance at the North now. Any win at this point is irrelevant.

Thanks for the memories ManG. You had some time to take some of the best talent and seniors in the conference and develop a championship team. It's over! I hope you can take the guys and do something next year. If you're here...this team has really disappointed my football hopes for a good pigskin year at KU. You better make some major changes to your coaching staff next year!!! Your promising QB just became a broken promise.

Let's go to court!!

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

how often does BOTH teams want to run clock at end of the game?

often I say the BB team took the FB team's mojo. That is my tongue in cheek comment, in real world the coaches response to the boxing matches stoal the heart of the FB team. They got hung out to dry w.out having a hearing to air their legit gripes. Often it is said, folks don't mind not getting their way, if they do get to have their say. HCMM said we won't discuss it at all, in private or otherwise, it is over. Well check heart and devotion of your team, it's not over. they are lifeless. Couldn't beat Baker right now.

the BB fight was a lost team building and confidence building turning point in the season, you goofs.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

apologize for poor spell check. Too pissed to see straight ....

optimisticmangino 10 years, 3 months ago

Is Terry Allen available? We could at least bring him in to be offensive coordinator couldn't we?

Aron Hayes 10 years, 3 months ago

well its just really hard to watch football games now a days. you know we want the best for our team. i mean we all bleed crimson and blue! but what it is we are missing i hope by the end of the year ku as a team finds it. hope we at least contest in the next few remaining games this year.

if the basketball team keeps their heads on straight and wins the national championship this year, then maybe losing the football season wont sting as bad, sure would have loved to see football do good this year.

HANG IN THERE "ROCK CHALK FIGHTING JAYHAWK"

thehawkster 10 years, 3 months ago

I was looking foward to attending the Texas game here in Austin but why would I want to do that to myself now? There is no way we have a shot at winning that game now (like we ever did). Real disappointing season. We all get hyped up early in the season when we are beating crap schools. Then we play big 12 games and we get exposed for what we are.

optimisticmangino 10 years, 3 months ago

Congrats to Bill Snyder. K-State is probably the only North team who has any chance at all of knocking off Texas.

Brad Swisher 10 years, 3 months ago

This football team hasn't been mentally prepared to play starting with the Colorado game. Reesing has lost his confidence. Have to point to coaching for this collapse.

KJRFC 10 years, 3 months ago

Well, I just pulled my KU football schedule off of the refridgerator and threw it in the trash. That only means one thing. It's basketball season. I blame Mangino for knowingly playing injured players who cannot perform at peak level when when we have perfectly healthy and capable backups in Pick and Opurum. Reesing is no longer the playmaker he used to be due to injury and he's getting worse. He doesn't slide and protect the ball when he runs and he short-hops way too many balls. These are all things he didn't do pre-Colorado/groin injury. Sharp looks better, but I still think Opurum is a stronger North-South runner. Our D as a whole is average at best, even against medeocre teams like ISU and KSU. I say the Bowen experiment is a failure. I absolutely hate the 4-2-5. Terrible idea especially when we are breaking in two new linebackers. Get rid of Bowen, go back to the 4-3-4 so we can get some pressure on the QB next season. At least we get the weaker side of the Big XII South next two seasons to get everyone excited again.

jhawkazmars 10 years, 3 months ago

I live in AZ and have waited 4 years to come home to a football game. I bought OVERPRICED tickets to Misery game the week before we started losing...Lew and Mark SEND ME MY MONEY BACK!!!!!!!!

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 3 months ago

From what I have heard, after the Iowa State game Mangino flew out to Las Vegas and got into some trouble with the mafia. I guess he owes them quite a bit of money. So I guess they said if you will completely tank your team for the rest of the year all debt will be forgivin. The mafia is probably making a killing off of this.

Ryan Sullivan 10 years, 3 months ago

Its a sad state of affairs.

It was supposed to be a potentially great season, but now I can't even see us making it to a bowl game.

Reesing has been so great over the past 3 years, and what should have been a great season to finish off his great career looks like it going to end terribly.

There are lot of reasons why we've lost 4 in a row, poor tackling on defense, very questionable coaching moves, shotty offensive line play, complete lack of a running game, dropped passes by recievers, missed field goals, but obviously Reesing's play has been the biggest factor.

Here's the thing though - Reesing still gives us the best chance to win. Its a scary reality right now, I know. But Pick is clearly not ready and Meier hasn't played QB in 3 years.

Remember all, with the kind of defense we have its not like we can win with a QB who can be average, we need someone who can make plays. The only chance we have to finish going 2 and 1 and getting to another bowl is if Reesing can get out of his own head and the players around him can step it up a little.

After what he's done over the last 3 years, I would rather see us go 5 and 7 than see Ressing finish his career on the bench.

My biggest concern is what happens next year and the year after and the year after. Have we really crossed a threshold as a program where we can get enough good recruits to have a consistently good program? It remains to be seen.

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 3 months ago

optimisticmangino ....you try to catch that last pass to Briscoe in the Colorado game....there were 3 defenders on him and the ball was high

jayhawkintx73 10 years, 3 months ago

Coach Mangino, Whats up? Your team isn't performing. Why an almost 2 to 1 ration of pass to run? Where is Deshaun Sands? Why aren't we using these guys we recruited at Defensive End? Where are you at Coach?

kujhwksAZ 10 years, 3 months ago

Well I'm so dissapointed with season and what has taken place. I think defintely Bowen has to go and now I beginning to question the Offensive coordinator's ability. If we need one of them, Nolan Cromwell, great KU alum of the mid-70's, is the o-coordniator at TX A&M. Heck I'm not sure I wouldn't bring him in as the head coach. Whomever it is to blame, Mangino needs to take long look at his staff and start chopping some wood. Time to find the next great scheme.

FlaHawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Too bad for KU. THey had no emotion and can you think UT will get 100 on them? Defense played well, but many missed tackles on the 20 yard runs. KU should never be in a 4-2-5, especially against KSU. KU should have had 8 men in the box. Gregory is an aweful QB (did not get 30 snaps in 3 years at USF and his Dad was Offensive Coordinator at least one year). Gregory and his receivers missed 4-5 wide open pases where the DB's were whipped! Did KU have a sack today?

Offense was miserable. Reesing short hoped many and even long hped at least one. His three turnovers in the first half sealed the deal. It gave Coach Snyder an opportunity to grind out the game. KSU had no turnovers and grlound out the yardage when it needed to. KU played right into COach Snyders stengths.

jayhawk02 10 years, 3 months ago

We will not win another game this year as long as Reesing and Sharp are starting in the backfield. Don't get me wrong, I truly appreciate everything those two have done for our program, and am very thankful. But it's time to move on. They aren't getting it done, and we have watched for 4 weeks in a row how really inept our offensive has become. I think the blame can be shared by the coaching stafff for keeping these two out on the field. How do we go from averaging over 40 points per game to 10? Time to build for the future------Pick and Operum.

Kent Wells 10 years, 3 months ago

Space aliens have kidnapped Reesing and replaced him with a somewhat imperfect clone replacement.

Best excuse I can offer for what I just saw.

Or the mafia theory.

Or the Tyshawn jab broke the confidence of the team.

JamesA 10 years, 3 months ago

We have no balance on offense. Running Jake sharp up the middle has never worked and will never work. We should've never stopped running it with Opurum, he was atleast good for 3 yards, which forced defenses to fill the box. Sharp's contribution to the team is so minimal for the amount of plays he is involved in. But complaining about this now does nothing this far into the season. The season at this point needs to NOT be about sending Todd out in a positive light by continuing to play him and let him try and make something happen, but by playing Pick and Opurum on more downs. Even starting Pick and Opurum and then bringing in Todd and Jake if thats not working. You can't give these guys an unlimited amount of chances.

FlaHawk 10 years, 3 months ago

I loved the noise of the 50K+ in attendance. KU would need a crwd of 150K to generate this amount of noise. I have not been to KSU game since they added the decks, but it really makes a difference. I used to think Memorial Stadium was a much better atmosphere, but after today KSU and Bill Snyder Stadium is significantly ahed of Memorial Stadium.

Note to Lew .... how is KU going to get a crowd with an attiude like KSU (for FB)?

Trace Stark 10 years, 3 months ago

What a bummer, mates. The "Hawks seem to have spit their dummy, as we say here in Aotearoa!

lovemyhawks 10 years, 3 months ago

what a disappointing season...... sure had high hopes for another GREAT year in both sports but now i'm ready for basketball. wow, i wasn't too optimistic going into this game but it was winnable all the way. 4 in an row, who would have guessed it??? take away a few turnovers and we are 8-1. reesing is DEFINITELY not the QB we have followed for 3 years........ something is very very wrong..... whether it's physical or mental or both. but i think we have really been outcoached big time, too. today, you take away the last 30 seconds of the first half and it's a totally different game. the turnover killed us but with no timeouts, ksu still should have gone in DOWN 3-7 and would NOT have had the momentum coming back on the field in the 3rd quarter and maybe would not have scored on that opening drive. wow, what a killer. nebraska and mizzou are definitely winnable but so were the last 4 so will we win again?? i don't care to guess anymore. reesing was our man and just isn't playing like we know he can. i'm ready for pitt on tuesday!! ROCK CHALK!!

architect 10 years, 3 months ago

Five and seven on the year. KU doesn't win another game with the midg(et) at QB.

Brian Skelly 10 years, 3 months ago

People got on me about being a 'hater' 4 weeks ago, but everything I presumed to come true has.

The Colorado game was the nail in the coffin. The OU loss was assured, the Tech game was almost assured (as will the UT game) as losses as well.

Our odds of redemption to come were KSU, Nebraska, and Mizzou. I mentioned at the time after the CU/OU games we'd be lucky to win one of those. Now id be surprised if we won again.

The Flag Football "O" is fun and exciting when Reesing isnt pressured... and even a little when he his. But he's looked like @#$@ since the CU game and has done nothing to restore anyones confidence in him (or the Offenses' odds) since then. Lets not even bother talking about the "D", which finally made a bit of a cameo today.

We SHOULD be disappointed where this team will end up... which at this point is HOPEFULLY 6-6 and a bowl bid. But if there is a jumble mish-mosh of mediocre Big 12 teams (North more specifically) I have no faith that we'd be ahead of the rest of the crew than if several finish 6-6.

Have these guys shown ANYTHING all year that would make you think we could be either Mizzou or Nebraska at this point? Be honest. We havent. I still think we can pull out the game next week since its in Lawrence, but the UT game will be a brutal thumping and if Gabbert is healthy for Mizzou I dont have faith we can take them.

7-5 SHOULD have been the worst we ended up with and now it appears to be the best we'd end up at.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

+MichAve. what plays are you watching, "he gives us the best chance" really? Get serious. fumbles interceptions and most balls thrown at our recievers feet, even the 2 yard shuttle pass wasn't catchable. watch the tape of today's game not the past two years pleasant memories.

Yes, you are right what he has given us the last three years is admirable, but the sole focus is about the next three games, the placques, trophies and life time achievement awards can be doled out later.

DoubleDD 10 years, 3 months ago

This is were I get off. You know I can handle losing football if you play the game the way it is supposed to be played and lose cuz your not good enough. This I can handle, but what has been happening the last 4 games is just sickening. No No I won't be watching any more of this crap. How's does the QB turn the ball over as much as Ressing has here lately and in key moments of the game might I add. It doesn't make since to me. Espeically a senior who is seasoned and has played in big games before. I don't who is making money of these games but I hope its worth it. I don't care if KU wins the rest of their games this year (which I doubt) I'm done. If they did win the rest of their games it would only prove my point that somebody is making some serious cash off these games. Here's a tibit, you know KU has covered the spread just twice this season a little strange don't you think???

Aside from that congrats KSTATE fans the place was rocking and the Wildcats played a sound game with the talent that you guys have. Rest assure Old Bill doesn't get outcoached. The future is bright for you guys. You guys have the kind of team I could root for win or lose. They play smart football whether the best team on the field or not.

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 3 months ago

FlaHawk I agree about the 4 2 5 defense. Makes me think that they forgot to recruit enough linebackers. It also irks me that adjustments made to both the defense and offense did not occur until mid season. Moreover, it bothers me that players like say Vernon Brooks did not see action until week 6 because as HCMM said, they did not "understand" the schemes. I thought that the non conference games were about learning by gaining playing experience. This all leads to poor preparation before the season and adjustments during the season by the entire coaching staff. With a few adjustments, we could be singing a different song. If the coaches aren't up to it then it is time to go!

Kyle Crenshaw 10 years, 3 months ago

i dont even want us to beat texas anymore seeing as how are season is donezo. i would much rather texas just finish undefeated and play in the championship then some other crap big 10 school

Benjamin Piehler 10 years, 3 months ago

i blame not putting in opurum in enough, and todd taking too long to pass, and todd throwing picks/fumbling, and todd throwing passes too high or too low. Essentially i blame todd, who is clearly rattled.

Benjamin Piehler 10 years, 3 months ago

oh and the team hasnt looked good all year. even playing duke and the cusa teams, too many mistakes were made that were never corrected.

gram77 10 years, 3 months ago

WOW!! KU fans get a grip, what a bunch of fair-weather fans! I've never heard so much wining and complaining. The football team is "what it is"! You loved them the first of the year, what happened? Shouldn't matter if they win or lose, you big babies! You are an embarassement to the university and the program.

minnhawk84 10 years, 3 months ago

Well, take solace in that Misery just lost at home to Baylor, 32-40. They really suck too -- Arrowhead should be a fun game.....

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

No, gram77, we have expectations. We contribute money, support, tears, and cheers to this university. We spend hundreds on season tickets, parking, merchandise. Our university is spending millions on stadium expansions and $2.3 million on our coach. Mark Mangino giving up in winnable games is an embarrassment to the university. Ignorant, unquestioning adherence to the status quo is an embarrassment. I love the team as much as anyone, and that is why it is painful to watch the team play so poorly and why I have a duty to question the ability of the people running the program.

minnhawk84 10 years, 3 months ago

And I agree with gram77 -- definitely get a grip, cuz true KU fans suck it up and still support their team. As I said much earlier in the day, Todd is one of the most entertaining and special QBs I've ever seen, going back 57 years of my life. I love that kid and what he has done for KU.

rcjh22 10 years, 3 months ago

We should rethink the stadium expansion.

gchawk 10 years, 3 months ago

2 years ago was a magical year, both in terms of our great season and in terms of a coincidental light schedule. One year does not define a career, and I'm certainly referencing Mangino. Just like our athletes having to assume certain responsibilities, such as keeping grades up, certain behavior standards because of high profile, etc., so does a head coach when he signs that large, lucrative contract and I don't see a coach who is coming close to being worth his paycheck with him. What Snyder has done over at Manhattan is nothing short of amazing given his circumstances this year. Mangino has no excuses, with the possible peter principle one. Along the same line, has anyone listened to Bob Davis announcing a game? I know I'm whining, but he is pathetic. Any other school announcer I've listened to you could definitely tell for what school he was announcing for, not Bob. He was just as excited when K-State did well as when we did. I think it's his fault for us losing!! (kidding).

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 3 months ago

rcjh22 We should move forward with the stadium and get more fan support!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

HawkfromHays - I am with you 100%. Who cares if the record this year is better than we would have expected several years ago? The point is to improve and become a better team, and the past 2 years this team has gotten worse by the week. I'm not whining about anything. I give credit where it is due (the job MM did the Orange Bowl year) and criticizing inexcusable mistakes I see elsewhere (the regression of this team the last 2 years). We are dumping tons of money into making this team a contender, and the results are not there.

Dyrk Dugan 10 years, 3 months ago

"This year is a failure. It will be a miracle if we beat anyone else. We are the worst team in the North."

i hope you're not a coach....in little league, jr. high, high school or anything. because that is pathetic.

we have 3 games left.....how can you say the season is a failure.....the season ain't over! Good grief, i hope you're not a season ticket holder. You're a downer.

Go Jayhawks!

Dan Harris 10 years, 3 months ago

Im as pissed off as any of you but calling for Mangino to be fired is a kneejerk reaction to a dissappointing season. The one thing I do agree with is that TO should have been running the ball in place of the obviously still injured Sharp. I guess all that's left for some sort of satisfaction is to beat Mizzery but that seems highly unlikely, what a downer.

Paul Christiansen 10 years, 3 months ago

After the Colorado game I knew we were in trouble.

I just didn't expect to just "fumble" games away like this.

Lets not blame Todd Reesing.

This is a Coaching blunder!

Why didnt we just stick with Opurum. It makes no sense.

Ryan Wood 10 years, 3 months ago

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gchawk 10 years, 3 months ago

howmuchrice. So just exactly what are you trying to say?

Brian Skelly 10 years, 3 months ago

Im not going to be gunning to run (or walk) coach Mangino outta town. There needs to be (and im sure there will) a critical look at the coaching staff (and maybe even Mangino) after the season is over.

If they make a 2nd or 3rd rate bowl and win he'll have they'll be no pressure to fire him. Nor should there be. Make staff changes possibly? Im sure thats happening no matter what.

For all of the angst and frustration with Todd Reesing going from Mr. Cool under pressure to a guy who looks like he's running for his life and forcing the issue, he is STILL the best option we have at QB. The idea were getting farther with Pick in there is laughable. No chance there. Thats running up the white flag.

I still find it ironic that the early Mangino years had at least decent D-I defenses and now it seems like we cant stop anyone to save our lives... and more importantly, I'd be curious as to where we rank nationally (or even in the Big 12) on stopping guys on 3rd down. Or even 3 and outs. We cant be very good at that at all. Giving up 200+ yds rushing is a joke. A bad one at that. I get the KSU is running the ball... but come on.

Again... 7-5 should have been the worst we hoped for and now we'd be lucky to get there. 6-6 is starting to look hopeful. I do legitimately wonder if we'll win a game the rest of the season.

nobody1793 10 years, 3 months ago

Some of y'all need a reality check. KU overachieved the last couple of years. The people who were expecting 8 or 9 wins were dreaming a little.

I'm willing to give coach a chance. With experience, I think some of these young guys will be better than our senior class is now. Hopefully we can get into a crappy bowl just to get the extra practice time for our young guys. Besides, who are you going to bring in as the next coach who is for sure going to bring in title after title?

rockchalkblock 10 years, 3 months ago

ARE YOU KIDING ME!? A player fumbles the ball twice! short hops several sure first down passes.. doesnt role out when he needs too.. and does not protect the ball! and hes not to blame!?.. If #5's jersey read Barman or Luke... This would be about how we need to find a true college football game.. but becuase he had two awesome years and has had a melt down.. its not his fault come on guys..I havent agreed with some of the choices by the coaching staff this year..but come on! one Loss to Kstate who played flawless football and your calling for his head WOW. A coach can only take a player so far.. if the player doesnt want to commit thats his own fault

packywacky88 10 years, 3 months ago

Does anyone know if TR has a "fat little girlfriend"? Just wonderin....

rockingthechalk 10 years, 3 months ago

I'm not sure this could be a more frustrating season.

hawksince51 10 years, 3 months ago

Lew will give MM one more year thanks to the 2007 and 2008 seasons, the Orange Bowl, and a more favorable Big 12 South schedule in 2010. If we do not compete for the North title next year he is gone--that is if the pasta doesn't get him first.

beebe1 10 years, 3 months ago

What took you fans so long to figure it out. Some of us knew the problem was in coaching in the 2008 Iowa State Game. It didn't get any better.

The surprise to me is that Mangino hasn't really figured it out.

They fired an Ohio State linebacker who was an all pro player at linebacker, coaching our linebackers. And stayed with Bowen.

The Iowa State Special Teams coach was way ahead of whoever it was on our side.

The Offensive Coordinator has run into more frequent problems, probably correctable.

Mangino has the perception, I think, on Offense. He acts like the rest of it is 'Greek' to him.

Take it easy on Reesing. He seems to have a physical problem that explains the fumbles, off target passes, and hitting the ground with the ball! He probably hasn't had the chance to recover!

djgratt59 10 years, 3 months ago

Fatgino threw TR under the bus last game. TR will be (at the end of the day) a legend at KU, so cut him some slack.

hawksince51 10 years, 3 months ago

beebe1 says "Take it easy on Reesing. He seems to have a physical problem that explains the fumbles, off target passes, and hitting the ground with the ball! He probably hasn't had the chance to recover"
I say if an injury is why he is doing all this crappy stuff, then sit him out until he recovers. A secondary benefit is to give Pick some experience--let him start for the next 2 which we would probably lose no matter what, and hopefully Reesing is healthy for the MU game.

Jim Pendleton 10 years, 3 months ago

Just back from kittykatville. Another in the long line of you've got to be @#$% me games this season. Pretty unbelievable when we are losing games when we only give up 17 points on the road.

First of all, BPSkelly you've also got to be @#$% me. Mangino's first team was 2-10 and was so bad across the board they were lucky to win any games. The second team somehow snuck into a bowl and then gave up 56 points to NCSt. So to say they had decent D-1 defenses back then just isn't true. However, I will add that I expect much better from today's teams.

That being said, the biggest disappointments for me on defense today (and most of the season) was simply not finishing plays. There were many times they had someone in position to make the play and the gain would be small. Instead they either arm tackled, got run thru, or just didn't finish. Yes, the big runs were bad, but there were a couple of those where if we finish after the hit, they don't have as many big plays. The defense is getting better, but they must learn to finish these plays and get off the field.

Yes, I am with all of you that Todd is struggling mightily right now. Everyone wants to either change QB or RB. I am not hearing many of you say anything about the OL. This is a big part of the problem. These guys have not been as good this year. Granted Todd's fumbles were on downfield runs, but he has been taking hits all over the field, as have the RB's. He is not only psyched out right now, but he has to be somewhat gun-shy also. I will say though that he needs to be a little more aware of what is going on around him. While Jacob should make those kicks, it hurts when you take an 11 yard sack when you're inside the 10.

Emphasis on strong play by the lines on both sides of the ball has got to be a priority, not only the rest of this year, but for many years in the future.

Finally, I must also ask, where are the downfield plays? I was sitting fairly high at the game, and it appeared on several occasions that these plays were there, and these were times that Todd had pretty good protection. Yes, don't like the turnovers, but one early INT should not deter you from continuing to take shots.

Still ask for everyone's support next week against NU. Yes the season has been a disappointment, but again we can't give up the ship just because the division is out of reach. Wins against NU & MU will help in future recruiting in addition to finishing with a good record. Our fans still must continue to support the program. Don't sell your tickets to NU fans, wear plenty of blue, and be loud for your team. Rock Chalk!!!

jayhawkintexas 10 years, 3 months ago

Obviously,our guys have been spending WAY too much time in the classroom instead of on the practice field!!! Actually, I think they need to spend more time in the classroom writing a term paper on the topic of "Being an Underachiever" because that is something they know about.

Ryan Wood 10 years, 3 months ago

Fire Todd Reesing. He makes way too much money to be playing so poorly.

troutsee 10 years, 3 months ago

Just got back from the game.

Rag-tag football from the KU perspective. We did not look like a well-coached team and haven't for most of this season, including our victories. We definitely need a home run hitter, i.e. someone with burning speed.

Reesing thinks he's Tebow. Barreling into the defense instead of sliding is stupid. His two fumbles were totally unnecessay and gave KSU momentum.

Our running game is totally inept due to an offensive line that can't block for the run, a diminutive RB who doesn't see the field well and never has, and a totally predictable offense with no variety in running plays. All the pressure is shifted to Reesing. Also, we do not stretch the opponent's defense enough.

First drive of the 3rd quarter is always important and our defense has given up touchdowns on the first drive of the 3rd quarter several times this year.

Mangino is not Manginius. Our half time "adjustments" are non-existent. If we go 0-3 from this point forward (and it's looking more and more that that is exactly what is going to happen), we need a change in coaching. Sorry, guys, but our biggest win during the Mangino era was in the Orange Bowl against VT. We have yet to beat TT, TU, and OU in the Mangino era. Breaking the streak against NU was big, but NU was down at the time. It's time for a change.

Dale Koch 10 years, 3 months ago

I think I've figured it out. Mangino must stop having the players "saw wood" and have them start practicing football again.

7texdude 10 years, 3 months ago

f they make a 2nd or 3rd rate bowl and win he'll have they'll be no pressure to fire him. Nor should there be. Make staff changes possibly? Im sure thats happening no matter what.

It's bad enough that they lost today, but they played with no emotion and no fire. This is a team in trouble and no adjustments have been made on offense. It's the same players, the same play calls and the same attitude. That's what bothers me.

Mangino needs to find a way to light a fire under these guys. Change the QB. Change the line. Change the play-calling. Change something. If he doesn't do something, then KU won't win another game against an average NU team and a mediocre Mizzou team.

It's time for the big boy to earn his money.

dlweigel 10 years, 3 months ago

Does anybody else wonder WTF is going on with our offense? The D has played awesome the last four games and the offense has been terrible! I wonder where the captians are on the big D telling the offense to get something goin. The point is our D can't be on the field all day and expect to win another game. Come on offense figure it out and coach Mangino and O cord. need to figure something out. Also, run the big guy, he is by far our best RB, and can take the punishment of the Big 12. This is not KU football, we need to re-evaluate things and get the ball rooling against the Nebraska!

Max Ledom 10 years, 3 months ago

Anyone who is calling for Mark Mangino's job deserves to have Shaq's size 23 foot shoved up there ass. Quit thinking about your self. Mark is the best coach by far. He made us good. So are you saying that hey, you brought us back! But now you arent good enough for the program that was nothing before you came so get outta here. We will be bowl eligible. Quit whining like a bunch of 2 year old babies. I hope you get eaten by Mark.

lovemyhawks 10 years, 3 months ago

we've been outcoached, we've been outplayed and reesing is certainly in a horrific slump....... injury maybe but just not himself anyway, and where's the fire in the team?? where's the emotion?? nu and mu are VERY winnable and we're capable..... we were CAPABLE of winning EVERY game this year so far..... just can't get the offense and defense on the same page OR 4 quarters put together. reesing's turnovers are eating us alive but i don't put all the blame on him. i think he's lost his confidence and is gunshy on top of it all now...... hoping senior day will bring out the best of him again and we can still beat the huskers and tigers and still be bowl bound. what we wanted this year??? absolutely not.... it's been a huge letdown for sure but the season is NOT totally over and we need to step up and be behind our team no matter what. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!!

lovemyhawks 10 years, 3 months ago

oh my gosh..... nebraska 7, oklahoma 0. not sure i want to face them next week if they upset the sooners tonight!!

John Smith 10 years, 3 months ago

We've now gone from being a mediocre team to a truly bad team. And now, on to basketball.

optichawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Hawksboy88 needs to stop wavin pompoms and think about what we all saw... an ill-prepared team that we out player them across the board (on paper) except running back. Our D line has played great but no linebacker support exposes them. JayhawkJim had it right except we did change out the offensive line and it was worse...much worse. Todd should have known from the snap that he would get harrassed and would have the cats ball hawkin...that was obvious to national media before kickoff. The Dbacks have one job, stop the long play which they did and stop the ball carrier in his tracks. This macho crap of putting your shoulder into someone for a big hit only to have them spin out and gain another 20 has to stop. Yes. Bowen will not be here but Mangino has to be responsible for seeing this stuff from last year and get it corrected. Heck, you make all the adjustments that HCMM has made the last 2-3 weeks in the Spring...not in the middle of the conference season. Getting the most out of a struggling team is the mark of a winning coach and I didn't see that on ourside of the sideline the last 3-4 weeks. This is the only game I have missed all year (home or away) and will definitely make it to NU to scream my lungs out against a winnable opponent but can't see me going to the most winnable of them all... Mizzou just to spite this game's performance. Lastly, I see no leadership on either side of the ball. One of you on each side, get in the face of your teammates when they need to hear you and fire them up. In college, that actually works cuz the good teams have that leadership and you see them game in and game out helping the coaching staff maximize the effort. Instead, we see Reesing wandering the sidelines and the D is just sitting on the bench looking at the ground while the offense is on the field. I saw this at UTEP and at CU...what kind of coaching staff puts up with that? They didn't even get excited when the basketball team was taking a poke at them. Give a S&@%!

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 3 months ago

How is Mangino such a good coach?

2 years in a row, he has gone into the season with a defense that could stop no one. Both years he has said so much. In the spring, he knew the defense would be terrible to start the year. Ummm, excuse me. You are the head coach of a football with high expectations and you go through the entire spring and summer workouts knowing your defense will be terrible? And it takes 5 games into the season to decide to fix it?

In the press conference after TTU game, he said that Branstetter is incapable of kicking an onside kick. Ummm, you are a division 1 coach and your second year starting kicker can't do something that any moron should be able to do?

His players play with absolute no passion or energy. The defense doesn't try to hit people hard and takes no pride in making stops. We look sluggish and uninspired every week.

Every game, we waste possessions trying to get Jake Sharp to do something he really can't do- pound the ball up the middle. Opurum is perfectly capable of carrying the ball and Sharp is hurt. So why is Sharp in the game hurting the team? Same could be said of Reesing lately.

Mangino is a great guy, but I think that this type of year is as good as he can do. We won 7 games and a meaningless bowl game last year, and with another win we will have basically the same year with mostly the same personnel. No improvement during the year. In fact, this year we are much worse. So how are we saying he is such a great coach? He is an average coach, and average teams are what we will continue to have. The potential to be excellent and the reality of being mediocre.

lovemyhawks 10 years, 3 months ago

we DID move the ball today....... we could have EASILY led 14-0 on those 2 early drives BUT we cannot seem to put points on the board. not even branstetter who kicked a 57 yarder....... today he misses 2 from 30. yes, we need leadership AND cheerleaders on the team..... SOMEONE needs to be able to PUMP the team up and show some emotion.......... even when we were winning we weren't sharp...... we were getting by and i knew we would be in trouble but i didn't expect what we've seen the last 4 games....

lovemyhawks 10 years, 3 months ago

guess i SHOULD say..... we moved the ball today but no thanks to a running game...... certainly something must change there and i don't think sharp is the answer. i vote for operum.

allknowinghawk 10 years, 3 months ago

A few comments: 1) Reesing did not win the Orange Bowl that team did. That team was led by guys like McAnderson, Fine, Talib, and McClinton. It was on the hard work of guys from past teams like Floodman, Toomey, Reid, and Whitaker. TR was an important part of that team but was just a part not the team (Look at the stats and box scores). Last year was a different story. 2)You can't say the OB season is a joke because this team is not made up of the same players. Almost all the starters are different. That being said Coach Mangino has built the program and for no reason should be fired. TR did not build the program for Mangino. The upward swing was in place well before TR showed up. To many fans it might not seem that way since they didn't watch a game before 2007. All programs experience a bad streak from time to time. Everyone talks about all the money that is being put into the program. This is the second year that money has been there. It takes time, team's like USC and Texas have been giving money to their football team for decades. Two years is not enough time. The OB momentum is not lost. Look at how many freshman are playing. There is really only one class that has had a chance to use KU's national success to get players. These things take time so quit calling for Mangino's job and claiming TR is the reason for all of KU's success.

KSseahawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Do you really honestly believe we could beat NU or MU? They will both dominate us in all phases of the game. I would consider a victory at this point to be competitive and show some desire. We were barely competitive in the last 3 games. Reesing is hurt and Mangino doesn't care, so he dopes him up and rolls him out there. Like a horse with a busted leg, Mangino will ride him to the finish line and win or lose...he'll put a bullet in him. Who in their right mind would want to play for this guy? His system is antiquainted, the playbook consists of 5 plays (3 pass and 2 run - none of which include our best RB) and the D can't make a tackle TO GIVE THE OFFENSE ANOTHER SHOT AT THE END OF THE GAME. The D at the end was a signal the team has given up on Mangino and the staff and I don't expect another competitive game this year, unless the basketball team lines up against them. Reesing seems to be going through the motions, which is almost a middle finger to Mangino, which he deserves. This entire staff is a joke and the way the team is playing (without any heart against your rival) should be all the evidence you need. A place in history??? Maybe if he could win a game against a good team he'd get some respect.

Mangino apologists are just accepting of mediocrity and don't believe KU can do any better. I believe otherwise and the University is bigger than any head coach (yes, even Mangino) it's time for Lew to exercise his power and do better than this...guy.

Thank goodness it's basketball season to remind us of what good coaching is all about.

brungyjhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Bench Reesing against Nebraska. I know he has done a lot for this program but he has had four terrible games in a row. If we even hope to make a bowl game, either Todd needs to pull his head out of his ass or he needs to be benched.

I was at the game and it was one of the most frustrating experiences ever. Hawks lost and we had to deal with the dumbass ksu fans. Not a fun day at all. Good luck against the Huskers. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!

Derek Conway 10 years, 3 months ago

Kansas football 2009-10, a season to remember! History awaits!

Sure

Lets play some bball

DoubleDD 10 years, 3 months ago

I love the limitless hope some KU fans have. On here posting calling us crybabies, telling us to man up be fans no matter what. Talking about how the NU and MU games are winnable games. Talking about how we are going to make it to a bowel game. One ??? are you serious???? Are we watching the same team? The team I'm watching won't run the ball, turns the ball over in key moments, and gets out coached. The QB has more turnovers than he has touchdowns. What do you want me do? Sit my butt in the seat and root, cheer, hope and pray for team that has not shot of winning a game. In case you didn't notice we just got beat by a junior college team. Sorry I don't believe in faith when comes to football games. I believe in players that play and coaches that coach and KU has neither. Not this year anyway.

KURocksChalk 10 years, 3 months ago

I do not think firing Mangino should even be in the mix. What he needs is some assistance from the AD. I think the Coach is too close to some of his staff. Perhaps he needs help firing someone.

I have to say that today I thought KU looked better prepared than it has been in quite a while. I think that once again, Todd Reesing gave the game away. I think he needs to be allowed to play some, but not all of the remaining games. Cut your losses and start playing for next year.

I have to say I like the changes on Defense. The defense is definitely better since Colorado. It is coming together. If the D had been this way early on and the O had reached its potential, I still think KU had the opportunity this year to be undefeated to this point. Some of the fault heretofore was play, some was coaching, but the last several games have come down to the play of Todd Reesing. I do not believe that "sunken cost" applies here, meaning great play in the past means you sort of have tenure at QB. What a ridiculous idea. Start the future today and maybe let Todd come in at some point, but I would not advise starting him.

hawkone 10 years, 3 months ago

I agree. We need to start looking to develop Pick for next season. I do not think that this season is hopeless, ut it is obvious that Reesing is struggling with something that is not getting fixed. Everyone keeps saying he is okay and is a competitor but after a couple bad plays he starts rolling downhill fast. I obviously cannot diagnose the issue, but it cannot be denied.
However, this game does not fall solely on his shoulders as we did miss two FG that should have been made easily. Heck, he made the toughest one of the three. We knew coming in the run game would be difficult to stop as Thomas is legit, but we were also beaten coverage over and over. Fortunately, Gregory's accuracy is subpar and he over threw open recievers a half dozen times.
At this point if Nebraska wins against OU I hope they win out and take the North so the bottom feeder KSU fans won't get to gloat.
We just need to beat Mizzou.
One more thing. Anyone who wants to critize Mangino should change their fanhood to one of the teams down the road. We wouldn't even be disappointed about today without him because before him we didnt even compete and before him we would have never had the chance to get those shiny new facilities. Dominance is not built overnight, but without fan support in good times and bad, dominance can never be achieved.

Steve Brown 10 years, 3 months ago

rockchalkblock: a coach can only take a player so far. True which is why Self didn't play some boys and they road the pine or transferred out. HCMM can take TR so far, as you say, ok, then bench him. How many turnovers would your QB deliver before you as coach would make a change? Certainly less than we have.

Gram77, you are correct we are fair weather fans, guity if you want to see it that way, which is why for the Husker game the stands will be full of red, folks w. recent tix bought this week off the web. Stubhub.com from JHawk fans that can't stand the recent storms. No not fair weather just can't stand poor game plan and poor preparation by the staff and playing injured players.

Packywacky: great post, yes his fat little girlfriend is recent transfer from west Texas.

NU 10 OKLA 3 :59 to go in 3rd qtr. Go Huskers block KState or Misery hopes.

Hawksboy88: who put this size 23 Addias in my arse?

irish2255 10 years, 3 months ago

Does anyone else kind of hope we lose to NU next week to keep ksuck from winning the North?

Lone_salina_kufan 10 years, 3 months ago

I personally feel Mangino is fine. If we fire him, who the hell do you want? Nevermind that, who WANTS this job? Mangino is not the problem. At some point, we have to hold the players accountable. A senior leader at quaterback, who quite honestly, doesnt look like he really cares that much whether he wins or loses.

Todd is finished!!! I don't care what he's done in the past, it's obviously not there for whatever reason now. You can't keep living on what you did 2 years ago. I used to be skinny too, but guess what, that doesn't mean I'm not fat now.

Larry Smith 10 years, 3 months ago

Boulder Colorado

2nd and goal at the 1 yd line

instead of running TO, we pass.

Game over

Season over

RunningBeaker84 10 years, 3 months ago

I do not think we were prepared for this game. KSU only has 3 "playmakers" on their offense and we could not stop them. The coaching staff has not figured out how to run while the other teams have figured out how to stop our run. I am still hopeful we can win 2 of the next 3 and get a decent bowl game.

bonefish 10 years, 3 months ago

"even support them on the road" This is true (red and) blue... I guess you should just add "sort of" to this... Word on the street before the game was that previously "sold" KU tickets to today's game were (very) "widely" available.

Good talk Russ. Great game. Great day to be a Wildcat.

Jim Pendleton 10 years, 3 months ago

Ok, I am going to say this again for all of Jayhawk Nation, whether you are a fair weather fan or hard core fan.

I appreciate that everyone has their opinions, win or lose.

I appreciate that you want to hold the staff and players accountable.

I appreciate that most of us agree we have flat given away most of the losses this year and that things should have gone better.

I appreciate those of you, who like myself have been coming to football games win or lose for three decades (or more).

I appreciate those of you who have joined us on the bandwagon the past few years and grown our attendance to what it should have been for years.

Now everyone, listen up !! - There is no time, particularly now, for abandoning ship. We are all wanting to see a program continue growing, so that we can compete for titles with the big boys. If anything, we need for more Jayhawks to get on board.

Did you see Nebraska fans abandoning their team the past several years when things got bad? No, they still bring 80K+ to every game in Lincoln, and still travel as much as they ever did.

Remember how bad OU was before Stoops arrived? Did they jump ship? NO, they expanded their stadium by another 10K or so, and continue to sell out every game.

Texas wasn't as good either in early Big 12 years. They fired their coach, and brought in a guy who has had them on or near the top most years since he got there.

Yes, be mad, scream, stomp your feet, whatever, when things don't go well. But do not go away. We need everyone to be a part of this, win or lose. There is no rule that says you can't be really good in more than one sport. Heck, I'd like all our teams to be as good as bb has. Be a part of the growth, don't be someone trying to tear it back down. I don't want to see any more days where our house has 1/3 to 1/2 or more fans of another team. We can control that doesn't happen by supporting win or lose.

One more thing, if you don't want to pay $90 for a home game ticket, become a season ticket holder. Cost averages out to $50 a game. If we sell out the house before the season, not as many fans for the other teams. We must continue to grow this program, not tear it down.

I appreciate all of Jayhawk Nation for being with me on this. Rock Chalk!!!

Justin LoBurgio 10 years, 3 months ago

jayhawkjim80..................................amen

Armen Kurdian 10 years, 3 months ago

I DVR'd the game. Something screwed up and I didn't get to see it. Must have been divine providence.

Big12numba1 10 years, 3 months ago

Who would have expected this?? Give props to Bill Snyder, they were picked at the bottom of all this. Big 12 title game might be ugly.....

Standings K-State 4-2 Nebraska 3-2 Colorado 2-3 Iowa State 2-4 Kansas 1-4 Missouri 1-4

DoubleDD 10 years, 3 months ago

My problem isn't that we've been losing its how we been losing. Discpline was what I loved about Magino. Sure we didn't always have the best team on the field but KU didn't beat themselves. Not this year we beat ourselves every chance we get. As I look back over this losing streak I can't help but feel that KU should have only one loss. Even that game with OU was winnable if TR doesn't throw a pick six. I say bence TR and lets look to the future. I'm sorry but I'm getting the feeling that TR is throwing these games. I've never seen a QB turn the ball over as much as TR has in these last 4 games and in key situations. It was like he refused to go into half time with KU leading. He just kept giving the ball back to Kstate so they could score.

criderak7 10 years, 3 months ago

it was a great game, but that has always been Snyder's way, he gets juco players and coaches the hell out of them. Wait til next year, Daniel Thomas and Chris Harper

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